Sorry, no pics as I do protect our privacy. Especially that of my daughter who is begging for the keys. I did post a GM pic of a look alike earlier in this thread. I'm sure you understand.
So i just looked at the corvette build site on GM... looks like a great car at an inexpensive price for that kind of style, power packed performance & cool running gear options...
Looked at the new Vette while at a Chevy dealer the other day. Car looks great but it will take me a long time to get used to the mid-engine proportions. I need "rear seats" so I bought a Camaro SS.
Corvette has always been a great value. I really like the direction they took with the C8.
I have had some exotics. Right now, I'm thinking no more of those. The c-8 can hold its own against those. Best feature is that I'm not worried about driving it. Went to Publix this morning, to the beach after that. I would have never considered that with a Lamborghini. I'm not saying this is an exotic but it's not far away and it's $200K less.
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
If that's your answer you don't understand car culture.
It's almost as if I literally typed, "I just don't understand why."
That being said, I'd rather understand cars than "car culture," and I'm pretty confident that I do.
If stats are how you judge cars and whether or not they're "good" you're probably not a car guy. Cars aren't TV's or appliances where you just look at the stat sheet and know which is best. Not everyone wants to own something based on how fast it laps a track, which is the most pointless talking point of all time since most modern performance cars aren't tracked at all and sit in traffic like the rest of society in their Camry's and SUV's.
Buying a classic car is buying rolling art. It's about how it makes you feel when you're behind the wheel. They're an emotional purchase, not a rational one.
Not a car guy. Just not. However I had the privilege of seeing a piece of rolling art IRL a month ago and I came Randy-Southpark-style.
I can't say exactly what it is because it's in a very private collection and would violate work NDAs... But think the Ferris Buller Ferrari. Original everything. Owner said it would fetch well into 7-figs in open market.
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
If that's your answer you don't understand car culture.
It's almost as if I literally typed, "I just don't understand why."
That being said, I'd rather understand cars than "car culture," and I'm pretty confident that I do.
If stats are how you judge cars and whether or not they're "good" you're probably not a car guy. Cars aren't TV's or appliances where you just look at the stat sheet and know which is best. Not everyone wants to own something based on how fast it laps a track, which is the most pointless talking point of all time since most modern performance cars aren't tracked at all and sit in traffic like the rest of society in their Camry's and SUV's.
Buying a classic car is buying rolling art. It's about how it makes you feel when you're behind the wheel. They're an emotional purchase, not a rational one.
Not a car guy. Just not. However I had the privilege of seeing a piece of rolling art IRL a month ago and I came Randy-Southpark-style.
I can't say exactly what it is because it's in a very private collection and would violate work NDAs... But think the Ferris Buller Ferrari. Original everything. Owner said it would fetch well into 7-figs in open market.
I have probably done more car wrenching, detailing, and racing than most if not all on here, but sure.
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
If that's your answer you don't understand car culture.
It's almost as if I literally typed, "I just don't understand why."
That being said, I'd rather understand cars than "car culture," and I'm pretty confident that I do.
If stats are how you judge cars and whether or not they're "good" you're probably not a car guy. Cars aren't TV's or appliances where you just look at the stat sheet and know which is best. Not everyone wants to own something based on how fast it laps a track, which is the most pointless talking point of all time since most modern performance cars aren't tracked at all and sit in traffic like the rest of society in their Camry's and SUV's.
Buying a classic car is buying rolling art. It's about how it makes you feel when you're behind the wheel. They're an emotional purchase, not a rational one.
Not a car guy. Just not. However I had the privilege of seeing a piece of rolling art IRL a month ago and I came Randy-Southpark-style.
I can't say exactly what it is because it's in a very private collection and would violate work NDAs... But think the Ferris Buller Ferrari. Original everything. Owner said it would fetch well into 7-figs in open market.
I have probably done more car wrenching, detailing, and racing than most if not all on here, but sure.
I believe he was saying HE'S not a car guy. Not you.
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
If that's your answer you don't understand car culture.
It's almost as if I literally typed, "I just don't understand why."
That being said, I'd rather understand cars than "car culture," and I'm pretty confident that I do.
If stats are how you judge cars and whether or not they're "good" you're probably not a car guy. Cars aren't TV's or appliances where you just look at the stat sheet and know which is best. Not everyone wants to own something based on how fast it laps a track, which is the most pointless talking point of all time since most modern performance cars aren't tracked at all and sit in traffic like the rest of society in their Camry's and SUV's.
Buying a classic car is buying rolling art. It's about how it makes you feel when you're behind the wheel. They're an emotional purchase, not a rational one.
Not a car guy. Just not. However I had the privilege of seeing a piece of rolling art IRL a month ago and I came Randy-Southpark-style.
I can't say exactly what it is because it's in a very private collection and would violate work NDAs... But think the Ferris Buller Ferrari. Original everything. Owner said it would fetch well into 7-figs in open market.
I have probably done more car wrenching, detailing, and racing than most if not all on here, but sure.
I believe he was saying HE'S not a car guy. Not you.
Told you I was a car guy. See how slow I was to catch on there?
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
If that's your answer you don't understand car culture.
It's almost as if I literally typed, "I just don't understand why."
That being said, I'd rather understand cars than "car culture," and I'm pretty confident that I do.
If stats are how you judge cars and whether or not they're "good" you're probably not a car guy. Cars aren't TV's or appliances where you just look at the stat sheet and know which is best. Not everyone wants to own something based on how fast it laps a track, which is the most pointless talking point of all time since most modern performance cars aren't tracked at all and sit in traffic like the rest of society in their Camry's and SUV's.
Buying a classic car is buying rolling art. It's about how it makes you feel when you're behind the wheel. They're an emotional purchase, not a rational one.
Not a car guy. Just not. However I had the privilege of seeing a piece of rolling art IRL a month ago and I came Randy-Southpark-style.
I can't say exactly what it is because it's in a very private collection and would violate work NDAs... But think the Ferris Buller Ferrari. Original everything. Owner said it would fetch well into 7-figs in open market.
I'm pretty sure I know the car you're speaking of. If so, it's a 1959 250 Testarossa that was raced by Phil Hill. A 3 liter V-12 that sounds so throaty and awesome that I can't even describe it.
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
If that's your answer you don't understand car culture.
It's almost as if I literally typed, "I just don't understand why."
That being said, I'd rather understand cars than "car culture," and I'm pretty confident that I do.
If stats are how you judge cars and whether or not they're "good" you're probably not a car guy. Cars aren't TV's or appliances where you just look at the stat sheet and know which is best. Not everyone wants to own something based on how fast it laps a track, which is the most pointless talking point of all time since most modern performance cars aren't tracked at all and sit in traffic like the rest of society in their Camry's and SUV's.
Buying a classic car is buying rolling art. It's about how it makes you feel when you're behind the wheel. They're an emotional purchase, not a rational one.
Not a car guy. Just not. However I had the privilege of seeing a piece of rolling art IRL a month ago and I came Randy-Southpark-style.
I can't say exactly what it is because it's in a very private collection and would violate work NDAs... But think the Ferris Buller Ferrari. Original everything. Owner said it would fetch well into 7-figs in open market.
I'm pretty sure I know the car you're speaking of. If so, it's a 1959 250 Testarossa that was raced by Phil Hill. A 3 liter V-12 that sounds so throaty and awesome that I can't even describe it.
Please don't spank it on the car.
lol
Ferrari anything is badass. Classic Ferrari is the tits.
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
If that's your answer you don't understand car culture.
It's almost as if I literally typed, "I just don't understand why."
That being said, I'd rather understand cars than "car culture," and I'm pretty confident that I do.
If stats are how you judge cars and whether or not they're "good" you're probably not a car guy. Cars aren't TV's or appliances where you just look at the stat sheet and know which is best. Not everyone wants to own something based on how fast it laps a track, which is the most pointless talking point of all time since most modern performance cars aren't tracked at all and sit in traffic like the rest of society in their Camry's and SUV's.
Buying a classic car is buying rolling art. It's about how it makes you feel when you're behind the wheel. They're an emotional purchase, not a rational one.
Not a car guy. Just not. However I had the privilege of seeing a piece of rolling art IRL a month ago and I came Randy-Southpark-style.
I can't say exactly what it is because it's in a very private collection and would violate work NDAs... But think the Ferris Buller Ferrari. Original everything. Owner said it would fetch well into 7-figs in open market.
I'm pretty sure I know the car you're speaking of. If so, it's a 1959 250 Testarossa that was raced by Phil Hill. A 3 liter V-12 that sounds so throaty and awesome that I can't even describe it.
Please don't spank it on the car.
lol
Ferrari anything is badass. Classic Ferrari is the tits.
Word.
The 250 California in Ferris Buellers Day Off is incredible, but I think the Testarossa is the peak of vintage Ferrari badassery.
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
I've never understood the obsession with classics. Classic anything. Progress is good, and usually things improve over time. I think AC Cobras are pretty timeless. So is the design of a lot of old British roadsters. Old 911s. Then again, you know what's better than an old 911 in every single way possible, including looks? A current GT3RS (or, hell, even a Cayman GT4 for a lot less money).
My FIL owns about 50 cars. I think about six of them run and drive. One is an early 1960s Jaguar XK 160 that used to be a race car. It looks pretty cool, but it was shit to drive. Ditto the Austin Healey Sprite. That thing was downright scary. No motor, no brakes, no seatbelts...
There was a time when I had a poster on my wall of a Ducati 998R. I thought it was the most beautiful machine that had ever been or ever would be built. I've been proven wrong so many times since.
I've always wished I had the time to pick up an old car and restore it (something tiny and light like a BMW 1600 that you can't get anymore), but my idea of "restore" would be pretty much to ditch the entire power train, chassis underpinnings, and interior and modernize them. At which point just buying a new car and saving myself the 1000 hours of work starts to sound more appealing. Look up "Project Binky" on YouTube for my kind of crazy (that I have no time and/or money for).
The point is not buying something that's better. Of course newer cars are better. Shit, some modern minivans are faster than many of the old thumping V8 muscle cars of the 60's. The point is the style, the era...that the classic car is something that an entire culture was built around. Go cruise a new GT3RS and most people assume you're just another rich asshole who has more money than taste. Drive a 1963 Corvette and people think you're probably a cool guy to hang out with and talk cars.
Classic cars are also limited-supply assets - they are never building more of those cars.
I won't disagree that you'll never lack for potential friends if you have a classic show car: There are plenty of people who are into it, and those who are tend to be INTO it. Then again, a lot of people are also into country music, but that doesn't mean it makes sense...
"Remember when everyone had cars but they all handled like boats, had shitty brakes, broke down constantly, were totally unsafe, uncomfortable, and most looked like vacuum cleaner nozzles with fins? Well I popped my cherry in the backseat of one with Suzie Rottencrotch back in '73, so I think I'll spend the cost of a new luxury sport sedan on restoring one (read: pay somebody to restore it) and we can all get together and compare our shrines to our lost youth."
A quick Google search tells me the median sale price for a '63 Corvette is over $70K. People spend six-figures on those things. And the guy with his very own Ring Taxi is the one with more money than taste?
I guess what I'm getting at is that I know that nostalgia is the reason for the classic car/bike/movie/music/etc. obsession, I just don't understand why. Just because I was chasing tail and partying down in college while drinking Keystone Premium and Coors light doesn't mean there's a fridge full of canned piss in the shop. There are simply better things now.
If that's your answer you don't understand car culture.
It's almost as if I literally typed, "I just don't understand why."
That being said, I'd rather understand cars than "car culture," and I'm pretty confident that I do.
If stats are how you judge cars and whether or not they're "good" you're probably not a car guy. Cars aren't TV's or appliances where you just look at the stat sheet and know which is best. Not everyone wants to own something based on how fast it laps a track, which is the most pointless talking point of all time since most modern performance cars aren't tracked at all and sit in traffic like the rest of society in their Camry's and SUV's.
Buying a classic car is buying rolling art. It's about how it makes you feel when you're behind the wheel. They're an emotional purchase, not a rational one.
Not a car guy. Just not. However I had the privilege of seeing a piece of rolling art IRL a month ago and I came Randy-Southpark-style.
I can't say exactly what it is because it's in a very private collection and would violate work NDAs... But think the Ferris Buller Ferrari. Original everything. Owner said it would fetch well into 7-figs in open market.
I'm pretty sure I know the car you're speaking of. If so, it's a 1959 250 Testarossa that was raced by Phil Hill. A 3 liter V-12 that sounds so throaty and awesome that I can't even describe it.
Please don't spank it on the car.
lol
Ferrari anything is badass. Classic Ferrari is the tits.
Word.
The 250 California in Ferris Buellers Day Off is incredible, but I think the Testarossa is the peak of vintage Ferrari badassery.
OT but the commercial for a security camera that uses the kid from Bueller as the parent catching his kid trying to take the car out is pretty clever as far as commercials go
Not sure why other than I've always liked the lines.
Is that the 450 SL?
450 SLC
Yeah the SL came with the removable hardtop
Beautiful car. Agreed. My mom always wanted one.
I have an 89 560SL. If you want to find out more than you ever wanted to know about them, read on.
Mercedes made then 1985-89 and it’s the last incarnation of the R107 body type. One of my dads bought it new and it was the top of the line one, only 25k miles on it now. Apparently they are worth more when they are 100% stock, so nothing has been done to it outside of routine maintenance and vain attempts to repair the computer. The car was $65k in 1989, $130k in today’s money.
Was it worth it? No. It’s considered one of the worst collector cars there is. There were many better ways to spend $65k in 1989. Pretty much everything other than cocaine, hookers, and a de Tomaso Pantera (if you went for beer runs) was a better investment.
My biggest beef with it, other than the fact that a 5.6 liter 8 cylinder gets smoked by my XT, is aesthetic. US regulations required this ugly ass plastic bumper. When that requirement was lifted Mercedes didn’t update it. The US version was neutered compared to the Euro one, it’s only advantage being sweet headlights. Here’s an example:
You wouldn’t think some shitty plastic trim would make a huge difference, but here is the Euro version or the ones that were converted.
Here it is with the Euro headlights. One of them is the AMG version, when AMG wasn’t a marketing gimmick and the badge wouldn’t be stuck on some schlubs C class. They only made five, and this one was Michael Schumacher’s.
If I decide to keep it then it will definitely be getting the Euro bumper or something custom made. The amber turn lights will be clear corners. If there is a tasteful front lip that can be made then it’s a maybe. Bigger wheels are a given. Headlights will stay the American version, looks better. It can be a very good looking luxury roadster, it just needed some tweaks.
I will add that Mercedes really don’t age that poorly. Compare the car to it’s American competitor, the Cadillac Allante, which looked like shit and was filled with electronics that would be dated before they even broke. Cadillac Benz
If we’re talking about unloved Mercedes I wouldn’t mind a W202 style that had some work done on it. Doesn’t qualify as a classic, but I had one as a kid and I thought it was badass compared to the Accords and Camrys the other kids had. Something like this classy number:
Re Mercedes, they've never been my favorite cars from a purely aesthetic POV. Other than the 300 SL Gullwing classics, the 450/560 line is the one I liked.
TOTALLY agree about the bumper ... even as a kid I remember liking the car but always having my eyes drawn to those bumpers, which looked so involved and unnatural ... like something someone came up with in a hurry and just slapped it on out of necessity. Didn't realize the Euro models didn't have the same bumper; they look much nicer.
Also agree that the European sedans with their focus on austere interiors age better from a styling standpoint.
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I did post a GM pic of a look alike earlier in this thread.
I'm sure you understand.
Best feature is that I'm not worried about driving it. Went to Publix this morning, to the beach after that.
I would have never considered that with a Lamborghini.
I'm not saying this is an exotic but it's not far away and it's $200K less.
I can't say exactly what it is because it's in a very private collection and would violate work NDAs... But think the Ferris Buller Ferrari. Original everything. Owner said it would fetch well into 7-figs in open market.
Please don't spank it on the car.
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The 250 California in Ferris Buellers Day Off is incredible, but I think the Testarossa is the peak of vintage Ferrari badassery.
Mercedes made then 1985-89 and it’s the last incarnation of the R107 body type. One of my dads bought it new and it was the top of the line one, only 25k miles on it now. Apparently they are worth more when they are 100% stock, so nothing has been done to it outside of routine maintenance and vain attempts to repair the computer. The car was $65k in 1989, $130k in today’s money.
Was it worth it? No. It’s considered one of the worst collector cars there is. There were many better ways to spend $65k in 1989. Pretty much everything other than cocaine, hookers, and a de Tomaso Pantera (if you went for beer runs) was a better investment.
My biggest beef with it, other than the fact that a 5.6 liter 8 cylinder gets smoked by my XT, is aesthetic. US regulations required this ugly ass plastic bumper. When that requirement was lifted Mercedes didn’t update it. The US version was neutered compared to the Euro one, it’s only advantage being sweet headlights. Here’s an example:
You wouldn’t think some shitty plastic trim would make a huge difference, but here is the Euro version or the ones that were converted.
Here it is with the Euro headlights. One of them is the AMG version, when AMG wasn’t a marketing gimmick and the badge wouldn’t be stuck on some schlubs C class. They only made five, and this one was Michael Schumacher’s.
If I decide to keep it then it will definitely be getting the Euro bumper or something custom made. The amber turn lights will be clear corners. If there is a tasteful front lip that can be made then it’s a maybe. Bigger wheels are a given. Headlights will stay the American version, looks better. It can be a very good looking luxury roadster, it just needed some tweaks.
I will add that Mercedes really don’t age that poorly. Compare the car to it’s American competitor, the Cadillac Allante, which looked like shit and was filled with electronics that would be dated before they even broke.
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If we’re talking about unloved Mercedes I wouldn’t mind a W202 style that had some work done on it. Doesn’t qualify as a classic, but I had one as a kid and I thought it was badass compared to the Accords and Camrys the other kids had. Something like this classy number:
TOTALLY agree about the bumper ... even as a kid I remember liking the car but always having my eyes drawn to those bumpers, which looked so involved and unnatural ... like something someone came up with in a hurry and just slapped it on out of necessity. Didn't realize the Euro models didn't have the same bumper; they look much nicer.
Also agree that the European sedans with their focus on austere interiors age better from a styling standpoint.