Rittenhouse- you decide

Goduckies

Exactly how many billions in damage and lives lost is he responsible for?

RoadDawg55

He’s a retard but he should walk.

Southerndawg

RoadDawg55 said:

He’s a retard but he should walk.

He's far from a retard. You might not like his published support for law enforcement, or his involvement in this incident, or the way he looks, or whatever, but objectively he's a very prepared young man who showed an incredible amount of discipline and skill in an incredibly bad situation.

He was asked to be there to help out, and he willingly stepped up to do so. He showed up prepared to provide first aid as well as protect himself and others from life threatening attacks. He did NOT spray bullets randomly into a crowd or simply walk up to Antifa/BLM asshats and shoot them, but rather attempted to escape while under life threatening attacks, resorting to fire only as a last option and only firing upon and hitting his attackers. Along the way he was in contact with emergency services and attempted to turn himself in to the police when it was finally "safe" for him to do so. Definitely not a retard.

RoadTrip

YellowSnow said:

NorthwestFresh said:

Kid should have just let himself be murdered.

Better yet he could have stayed home. If any of my kids when they’re 17 goes near a riot they’ll get a beating by me.

Unless they're there with you;-) Come on man it's a bonding opportunity

RoadTrip

YellowSnow said:

RaceBannon said:

17 year olds have died for this country since the Revolution

Initially I tended to agree with the just stay home but this video tells the whole story. He was there doing good. And the pedophile and the other dude got everything they asked for. Fuck them

Edit to add that Joe will have 17 year olds being shot again in no time

I don’t think the kid committed murder. Just saying sit it out. It was a poor choice to show up good intentions or not.

I understand your position and no matter what anyone says here, your logic is sound. That said, people are getting fed up with the bullshit going on in this country. I could have had my CWP but if I'm being honest I don't want to be put in a situation where I might kill someone. I do now carry a basball bat in my trunk. But in terms of this kid and what he did I can't fault his passion and desire to fucking do something. The right has just sat back and taken shit from the entire left, their media, all of academia, the courts and the massive government industial complex for 60 years. It's coming to a boiling point and because the left can't beat the right on a level playing field of ideas they must turn to violence. This kid and thousands more like him have decided not to turn the other cheek anymore. It only gets worse from here but nobody should denigrate you for advising your friends and family to stay out of the fight; mostly because the truth is nothing is going to change and if it does it means a whole shit ton of people died.

TurdBomber

SFGbob said:

alumni94 said:

SFGbob said:

Btw, has anyone heard or read anything more on the shooting of Jacob Blake that sparked this riot? Has there been any official state/police report on the shooting released?

Those cop(s) will walk also.

Pretty good evidence that Blake was already carrying a knife when he went around the front of the vehicle to open up the door of the mini-van. He'd already been tasered twice and was fighting with the police while carrying a knife. How were the police to know that he wasn't going for a gun inside the vehicle? Bullshit that the media has lost all interest in the facts surrounding this incident.

Blake is yet one more unfortunate victim of police violence because he ignored "The Talk."

Apparently that "always show your hands and don't reach for anything, cooperate with police and be polite, etc.," part of "The Talk" was forgotten when he needed it most.

Hard to understand how something every parent of a black child must mandatorily engage in with their youths, unlike white kids, whose parents never say anything about not mouthing off to cops, not running from cops, not getting physical with cops, etc., can go so wrong. Did all these black police shooting victims just forget about "The Talk?"

Is collective, stress-induced amnesia an epidemic in these cases? Or is "The Talk" another load of bullshit? The evidence points to the latter.

YellowSnow

Southerndawg said:

RoadDawg55 said:

He’s a retard but he should walk.

He's far from a retard. You might not like his published support for law enforcement, or his involvement in this incident, or the way he looks, or whatever, but objectively he's a very prepared young man who showed an incredible amount of discipline and skill in an incredibly bad situation.

He was asked to be there to help out, and he willingly stepped up to do so. He showed up prepared to provide first aid as well as protect himself and others from life threatening attacks. He did NOT spray bullets randomly into a crowd or simply walk up to Antifa/BLM asshats and shoot them, but rather attempted to escape while under life threatening attacks, resorting to fire only as a last option and only firing upon and hitting his attackers. Along the way he was in contact with emergency services and attempted to turn himself in to the police when it was finally "safe" for him to do so. Definitely not a retard.

How can you conclude he was "objectively prepared"? He was running for his damn life from an angry mob and is lucky to be alive. I can appreciate and respeck the kid's desire to DO SOMETHING, but he was way in over his head from the get go.

Shooting someone dead - even when it's justified - is a huge pain in the ass. The kid proactively got into a life or death situation he had no business being in. Contrast Rittenhouse's choices with, say, the images of the well armed black store owners in MN protecting their property and livelihood. Those grown ass men were prepared and had enough firepower to dissuade the mob.

YellowSnow

RaceBannon said:

17 year olds have died for this country since the Revolution usually in the uniform of the United States Army, Navy or Marine Corps which is a hell of a lot different than being a 17 year old running from an angry mob

Initially I tended to agree with the just stay home but this video tells the whole story. He was there doing good. And the pedophile and the other dude got everything they asked for. Fuck them

Edit to add that Joe will have 17 year olds being shot again in no time

creepycoug

RoadTrip said:

YellowSnow said:

RaceBannon said:

17 year olds have died for this country since the Revolution

Initially I tended to agree with the just stay home but this video tells the whole story. He was there doing good. And the pedophile and the other dude got everything they asked for. Fuck them

Edit to add that Joe will have 17 year olds being shot again in no time

I don’t think the kid committed murder. Just saying sit it out. It was a poor choice to show up good intentions or not.

I understand your position and no matter what anyone says here, your logic is sound. That said, people are getting fed up with the bullshit going on in this country. I could have had my CWP but if I'm being honest I don't want to be put in a situation where I might kill someone. I do now carry a basball bat in my trunk. But in terms of this kid and what he did I can't fault his passion and desire to fucking do something. The right has just sat back and taken shit from the entire left, their media, all of academia, the courts and the massive government industial complex for 60 years. It's coming to a boiling point and because the left can't beat the right on a level playing field of ideas they must turn to violence. This kid and thousands more like him have decided not to turn the other cheek anymore. It only gets worse from here but nobody should denigrate you for advising your friends and family to stay out of the fight; mostly because the truth is nothing is going to change and if it does it means a whole shit ton of people died.

This is pretty much where I'm at. It's one thing to talk about this shit in the Tug. It's another thing to get yourself embroiled in a self-defense situation with the authorities and hope they see it your way. No matter the outcome, it'll be life changing.

And I second Yella's rationale here: the midnight parties in Portland and elsewhere aren't being thrown by people who think about things the way you just articulated your hesitancy to get a CWP. It doesn't matter if you do or you don't. What does matter is that you're thinking critically about it, using your prefrontal cortex and not your dick, to make a decision that takes a lot of things into account.

You can probably count on one hand the number of people at those riots who think they way you think. And I mean that as it applies to the left or the right. Yeah, there are some defending businesses, etc. But in the main, those shit shows attract people looking for a fight, and those people often have little to lose.

SFGbob

TurdBomber said:

SFGbob said:

alumni94 said:

SFGbob said:

Btw, has anyone heard or read anything more on the shooting of Jacob Blake that sparked this riot? Has there been any official state/police report on the shooting released?

Those cop(s) will walk also.

Pretty good evidence that Blake was already carrying a knife when he went around the front of the vehicle to open up the door of the mini-van. He'd already been tasered twice and was fighting with the police while carrying a knife. How were the police to know that he wasn't going for a gun inside the vehicle? Bullshit that the media has lost all interest in the facts surrounding this incident.

Blake is yet one more unfortunate victim of police violence because he ignored "The Talk."

Apparently that "always show your hands and don't reach for anything, cooperate with police and be polite, etc.," part of "The Talk" was forgotten when he needed it most.

Hard to understand how something every parent of a black child must mandatorily engage in with their youths, unlike white kids, whose parents never say anything about not mouthing off to cops, not running from cops, not getting physical with cops, etc., can go so wrong. Did all these black police shooting victims just forget about "The Talk?"

Is collective, stress-induced amnesia an epidemic in these cases? Or is "The Talk" another load of bullshit? The evidence points to the latter.

"The talk" is a pet peeve of mine for all the reasons you laid out.