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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,017
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Don't skimp on quality. Our appraisal just came back 10% higher than even my most optimistic prediction, in large part because we invested in quality during our renovations

    also the market is fucking crazy right now

    We ain’t too far behind Aptos prices now.
    lolno

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81832045/510-modesto-ave-santa-cruz-ca-95060/14552182
    That’s a block from the Pacific Ocean my dude.
    my neighborhood

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81831761/324-palmer-ave-aptos-ca-95003/14548849
    Honestly, that's not as bas as I would have expected. I guess I've been in Seattle/Eastside for too long and have lost all perspective.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,680 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Don't skimp on quality. Our appraisal just came back 10% higher than even my most optimistic prediction, in large part because we invested in quality during our renovations

    also the market is fucking crazy right now

    We ain’t too far behind Aptos prices now.
    lolno

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81832045/510-modesto-ave-santa-cruz-ca-95060/14552182
    That’s a block from the Pacific Ocean my dude.
    my neighborhood

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81831761/324-palmer-ave-aptos-ca-95003/14548849
    Four burner stove? I wouldn’t cook ramen in that claustrophobic galley kitchen, nothing special

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,217 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Don't skimp on quality. Our appraisal just came back 10% higher than even my most optimistic prediction, in large part because we invested in quality during our renovations

    also the market is fucking crazy right now

    We ain’t too far behind Aptos prices now.
    lolno

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81832045/510-modesto-ave-santa-cruz-ca-95060/14552182
    That’s a block from the Pacific Ocean my dude.
    my neighborhood

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81831761/324-palmer-ave-aptos-ca-95003/14548849
    We’re not quite that stupid per sq ft yet. But 4 bed 3 bath, 2500 sq ft usually goes for 1.1 to 1.2 in my hood.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,217 Founders Club

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Don't skimp on quality. Our appraisal just came back 10% higher than even my most optimistic prediction, in large part because we invested in quality during our renovations

    also the market is fucking crazy right now

    We ain’t too far behind Aptos prices now.
    lolno

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81832045/510-modesto-ave-santa-cruz-ca-95060/14552182
    That’s a block from the Pacific Ocean my dude.
    my neighborhood

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81831761/324-palmer-ave-aptos-ca-95003/14548849
    Four burner stove? I wouldn’t cook ramen in that claustrophobic galley kitchen, nothing special

    Nothing special but for the dirt. Folks are always willing to pay a shit ton for the Pacific Ocean dirt.

    Grandma Yella used to say she had a “one butt kitchen”. But that shitty little 3 bedroom house in Laguna Beach was worth about $5 million by the time she kicked the bucket.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,680 Founders Club

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Don't skimp on quality. Our appraisal just came back 10% higher than even my most optimistic prediction, in large part because we invested in quality during our renovations

    also the market is fucking crazy right now

    We ain’t too far behind Aptos prices now.
    lolno

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81832045/510-modesto-ave-santa-cruz-ca-95060/14552182
    That’s a block from the Pacific Ocean my dude.
    my neighborhood

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81831761/324-palmer-ave-aptos-ca-95003/14548849
    Four burner stove? I wouldn’t cook ramen in that claustrophobic galley kitchen, nothing special

    Nothing special but for the dirt. Folks are always willing to pay a shit ton for the Pacific Ocean dirt.

    Grandma Yella used to say she had a “one butt kitchen”. But that shitty little 3 bedroom house in Laguna Beach was worth about $5 million by the time she kicked the bucket.
    True, and I won’t argue against the value of that pacific dirt.

    But this thread is about kitchens and that sucks dick
  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Don't skimp on quality. Our appraisal just came back 10% higher than even my most optimistic prediction, in large part because we invested in quality during our renovations

    also the market is fucking crazy right now

    We ain’t too far behind Aptos prices now.
    lolno

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81832045/510-modesto-ave-santa-cruz-ca-95060/14552182
    That’s a block from the Pacific Ocean my dude.
    my neighborhood

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81831761/324-palmer-ave-aptos-ca-95003/14548849
    Four burner stove? I wouldn’t cook ramen in that claustrophobic galley kitchen, nothing special

    Nothing special but for the dirt. Folks are always willing to pay a shit ton for the Pacific Ocean dirt.

    Grandma Yella used to say she had a “one butt kitchen”. But that shitty little 3 bedroom house in Laguna Beach was worth about $5 million by the time she kicked the bucket.
    When I was stationed at Camp Pendleton I rented an apartment a half block from the beach. After a month or so I never looked at the ocean. I’d rather live inland and have a resort in my backyard.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,217 Founders Club
    USMChawk said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Don't skimp on quality. Our appraisal just came back 10% higher than even my most optimistic prediction, in large part because we invested in quality during our renovations

    also the market is fucking crazy right now

    We ain’t too far behind Aptos prices now.
    lolno

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81832045/510-modesto-ave-santa-cruz-ca-95060/14552182
    That’s a block from the Pacific Ocean my dude.
    my neighborhood

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81831761/324-palmer-ave-aptos-ca-95003/14548849
    Four burner stove? I wouldn’t cook ramen in that claustrophobic galley kitchen, nothing special

    Nothing special but for the dirt. Folks are always willing to pay a shit ton for the Pacific Ocean dirt.

    Grandma Yella used to say she had a “one butt kitchen”. But that shitty little 3 bedroom house in Laguna Beach was worth about $5 million by the time she kicked the bucket.
    When I was stationed at Camp Pendleton I rented an apartment a half block from the beach. After a month or so I never looked at the ocean. I’d rather live inland and have a resort in my backyard.
    Lol. It’s the Marines, not Club Med.
  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800
    edited March 2021

    USMChawk said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Don't skimp on quality. Our appraisal just came back 10% higher than even my most optimistic prediction, in large part because we invested in quality during our renovations

    also the market is fucking crazy right now

    We ain’t too far behind Aptos prices now.
    lolno

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81832045/510-modesto-ave-santa-cruz-ca-95060/14552182
    That’s a block from the Pacific Ocean my dude.
    my neighborhood

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81831761/324-palmer-ave-aptos-ca-95003/14548849
    Four burner stove? I wouldn’t cook ramen in that claustrophobic galley kitchen, nothing special

    Nothing special but for the dirt. Folks are always willing to pay a shit ton for the Pacific Ocean dirt.

    Grandma Yella used to say she had a “one butt kitchen”. But that shitty little 3 bedroom house in Laguna Beach was worth about $5 million by the time she kicked the bucket.
    When I was stationed at Camp Pendleton I rented an apartment a half block from the beach. After a month or so I never looked at the ocean. I’d rather live inland and have a resort in my backyard.
    Lol. It’s the Marines, not Club Med.
    It’s still SoCal beachfront, and had the usual bikini babes and volleyball. I’m just saying that I would trade the high dollar location for a cheaper location, and use the savings to create my own amenities.

    Edit: I swam in the community pool almost every day. I think I went to the beach twice.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    USMChawk said:

    USMChawk said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Don't skimp on quality. Our appraisal just came back 10% higher than even my most optimistic prediction, in large part because we invested in quality during our renovations

    also the market is fucking crazy right now

    We ain’t too far behind Aptos prices now.
    lolno

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81832045/510-modesto-ave-santa-cruz-ca-95060/14552182
    That’s a block from the Pacific Ocean my dude.
    my neighborhood

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81831761/324-palmer-ave-aptos-ca-95003/14548849
    Four burner stove? I wouldn’t cook ramen in that claustrophobic galley kitchen, nothing special

    Nothing special but for the dirt. Folks are always willing to pay a shit ton for the Pacific Ocean dirt.

    Grandma Yella used to say she had a “one butt kitchen”. But that shitty little 3 bedroom house in Laguna Beach was worth about $5 million by the time she kicked the bucket.
    When I was stationed at Camp Pendleton I rented an apartment a half block from the beach. After a month or so I never looked at the ocean. I’d rather live inland and have a resort in my backyard.
    Lol. It’s the Marines, not Club Med.
    It’s still SoCal beachfront, and had the usual bikini babes and volleyball. I’m just saying that I would trade the high dollar location for a cheaper location, and use the savings to create my own amenities.

    Edit: I swam in the community pool almost every day. I think I went to the beach twice.
    The problem with the beach is all the sand and wind.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,027
    USMChawk said:

    USMChawk said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Don't skimp on quality. Our appraisal just came back 10% higher than even my most optimistic prediction, in large part because we invested in quality during our renovations

    also the market is fucking crazy right now

    We ain’t too far behind Aptos prices now.
    lolno

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81832045/510-modesto-ave-santa-cruz-ca-95060/14552182
    That’s a block from the Pacific Ocean my dude.
    my neighborhood

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81831761/324-palmer-ave-aptos-ca-95003/14548849
    Four burner stove? I wouldn’t cook ramen in that claustrophobic galley kitchen, nothing special

    Nothing special but for the dirt. Folks are always willing to pay a shit ton for the Pacific Ocean dirt.

    Grandma Yella used to say she had a “one butt kitchen”. But that shitty little 3 bedroom house in Laguna Beach was worth about $5 million by the time she kicked the bucket.
    When I was stationed at Camp Pendleton I rented an apartment a half block from the beach. After a month or so I never looked at the ocean. I’d rather live inland and have a resort in my backyard.
    Lol. It’s the Marines, not Club Med.
    It’s still SoCal beachfront, and had the usual bikini babes and volleyball. I’m just saying that I would trade the high dollar location for a cheaper location, and use the savings to create my own amenities.

    Edit: I swam in the community pool almost every day. I think I went to the beach twice.
    How many trips can you make to SoCal for a beach weekend on what you can salt away each month on a $400K home vs. a $1.2 million home?

    $400K less 20% down = $320K mortgage ===> $1,401.63 monthly/$16,819.56 annual

    $1.2 Million less 20% = $1 Million mortgage===>$5,968.72 monthly PMI/ $71,624.64 annual

    $50K per year savings. Probably could stay in the best hotel in Aptos and order the finest meats and cheeses.

  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    Neighbors too close. Hard pass.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,017

    USMChawk said:

    USMChawk said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Don't skimp on quality. Our appraisal just came back 10% higher than even my most optimistic prediction, in large part because we invested in quality during our renovations

    also the market is fucking crazy right now

    We ain’t too far behind Aptos prices now.
    lolno

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81832045/510-modesto-ave-santa-cruz-ca-95060/14552182
    That’s a block from the Pacific Ocean my dude.
    my neighborhood

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81831761/324-palmer-ave-aptos-ca-95003/14548849
    Four burner stove? I wouldn’t cook ramen in that claustrophobic galley kitchen, nothing special

    Nothing special but for the dirt. Folks are always willing to pay a shit ton for the Pacific Ocean dirt.

    Grandma Yella used to say she had a “one butt kitchen”. But that shitty little 3 bedroom house in Laguna Beach was worth about $5 million by the time she kicked the bucket.
    When I was stationed at Camp Pendleton I rented an apartment a half block from the beach. After a month or so I never looked at the ocean. I’d rather live inland and have a resort in my backyard.
    Lol. It’s the Marines, not Club Med.
    It’s still SoCal beachfront, and had the usual bikini babes and volleyball. I’m just saying that I would trade the high dollar location for a cheaper location, and use the savings to create my own amenities.

    Edit: I swam in the community pool almost every day. I think I went to the beach twice.
    How many trips can you make to SoCal for a beach weekend on what you can salt away each month on a $400K home vs. a $1.2 million home?

    $400K less 20% down = $320K mortgage ===> $1,401.63 monthly/$16,819.56 annual

    $1.2 Million less 20% = $1 Million mortgage===>$5,968.72 monthly PMI/ $71,624.64 annual

    $50K per year savings. Probably could stay in the best hotel in Aptos and order the finest meats and cheeses.

    This also argues hard against vacation home ownership, the rationale of which I can't argue. Sure, there's something great about just going whenever you want to go w/o having to book and all that shit. But, still. I can spend one or two months in Chelan, for example, for the rest of my life for a lot less than it will cost to own there.

    Part of if is every American's instinct to value "ownership" over borrowing and renting. But for the second home, that's not so much a "need", as is your primary, and more of "nice to have". The economics rarely shake out if there is no investment motive.
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072
    $400k home in CA lol
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,217 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    $400k home in CA lol

    Turlock ?
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072

    BearsWiin said:

    $400k home in CA lol

    Turlock ?
    Maybe. Nephew recently bought a little starter home shitbox in North Merced in the low 300's

    I wood of responded sooner but I was walking the dogs down to the beach and back

    because I can
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,217 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    $400k home in CA lol

    Turlock ?
    Maybe. Nephew recently bought a little starter home shitbox in North Merced in the low 300's

    I wood of responded sooner but I was walking the dogs down to the beach and back

    because I can
    I’ll PM you from the chairlift on a powder day some time.
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    $400k home in CA lol

    Turlock ?
    Maybe. Nephew recently bought a little starter home shitbox in North Merced in the low 300's

    I wood of responded sooner but I was walking the dogs down to the beach and back

    because I can
    I’ll PM you from the chairlift on a powder day some time.
    Snow is for visiting, not living in
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,217 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    $400k home in CA lol

    Turlock ?
    Maybe. Nephew recently bought a little starter home shitbox in North Merced in the low 300's

    I wood of responded sooner but I was walking the dogs down to the beach and back

    because I can
    I’ll PM you from the chairlift on a powder day some time.
    Snow is for visiting, not living in
    It snows 40 inches per year at my house. 25 mins away it snows 430 inches per year. The Cascades are an amazing sponge.
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    $400k home in CA lol

    Turlock ?
    Maybe. Nephew recently bought a little starter home shitbox in North Merced in the low 300's

    I wood of responded sooner but I was walking the dogs down to the beach and back

    because I can
    I’ll PM you from the chairlift on a powder day some time.
    Snow is for visiting, not living in
    It snows 40 inches per year at my house. 25 mins away it snows 430 inches per year. The Cascades are an amazing sponge.
    So you have to live in it, and still have to drive to play in it

    Really selling me on Bend
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,017
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    $400k home in CA lol

    Turlock ?
    Maybe. Nephew recently bought a little starter home shitbox in North Merced in the low 300's

    I wood of responded sooner but I was walking the dogs down to the beach and back

    because I can
    ISWYDT
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,027
    Speaking of kitchen remodels, @RaceBannon - new HGTV show:

    https://toofab.com/2021/03/02/jonathan-knight-farmhouse-fixer-nkotb/

    First minute, I'm like "hey - that's one of the New Kids"....sho' nuff, it is.

    Not Lindsey Bennett but not bad.

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,217 Founders Club
    edited March 2021

    Speaking of kitchen remodels, @RaceBannon - new HGTV show:

    https://toofab.com/2021/03/02/jonathan-knight-farmhouse-fixer-nkotb/

    First minute, I'm like "hey - that's one of the New Kids"....sho' nuff, it is.

    Not Lindsey Bennett but not bad.

    Our interior designer is a six foot tall milf.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,027

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    $400k home in CA lol

    Turlock ?
    Maybe. Nephew recently bought a little starter home shitbox in North Merced in the low 300's

    I wood of responded sooner but I was walking the dogs down to the beach and back

    because I can
    I’ll PM you from the chairlift on a powder day some time.
    Snow is for visiting, not living in
    It snows 40 inches per year at my house. 25 mins away it snows 430 inches per year. The Cascades are an amazing sponge.
    So you have to live in it, and still have to drive to play in it

    Really selling me on Bend
    BDWYA
    Drew Bledsoe and Dwight from the Office approve this message.

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,217 Founders Club

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    $400k home in CA lol

    Turlock ?
    Maybe. Nephew recently bought a little starter home shitbox in North Merced in the low 300's

    I wood of responded sooner but I was walking the dogs down to the beach and back

    because I can
    I’ll PM you from the chairlift on a powder day some time.
    Snow is for visiting, not living in
    It snows 40 inches per year at my house. 25 mins away it snows 430 inches per year. The Cascades are an amazing sponge.
    So you have to live in it, and still have to drive to play in it

    Really selling me on Bend
    BDWYA
    Drew Bledsoe and Dwight from the Office approve this message.

    Bledsoe lives down the street apparently.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    USMChawk said:

    USMChawk said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Don't skimp on quality. Our appraisal just came back 10% higher than even my most optimistic prediction, in large part because we invested in quality during our renovations

    also the market is fucking crazy right now

    We ain’t too far behind Aptos prices now.
    lolno

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81832045/510-modesto-ave-santa-cruz-ca-95060/14552182
    That’s a block from the Pacific Ocean my dude.
    my neighborhood

    https://www.mlslistings.com/property/ml81831761/324-palmer-ave-aptos-ca-95003/14548849
    Four burner stove? I wouldn’t cook ramen in that claustrophobic galley kitchen, nothing special

    Nothing special but for the dirt. Folks are always willing to pay a shit ton for the Pacific Ocean dirt.

    Grandma Yella used to say she had a “one butt kitchen”. But that shitty little 3 bedroom house in Laguna Beach was worth about $5 million by the time she kicked the bucket.
    When I was stationed at Camp Pendleton I rented an apartment a half block from the beach. After a month or so I never looked at the ocean. I’d rather live inland and have a resort in my backyard.
    Lol. It’s the Marines, not Club Med.
    It’s still SoCal beachfront, and had the usual bikini babes and volleyball. I’m just saying that I would trade the high dollar location for a cheaper location, and use the savings to create my own amenities.

    Edit: I swam in the community pool almost every day. I think I went to the beach twice.
    How many trips can you make to SoCal for a beach weekend on what you can salt away each month on a $400K home vs. a $1.2 million home?

    $400K less 20% down = $320K mortgage ===> $1,401.63 monthly/$16,819.56 annual

    $1.2 Million less 20% = $1 Million mortgage===>$5,968.72 monthly PMI/ $71,624.64 annual

    $50K per year savings. Probably could stay in the best hotel in Aptos and order the finest meats and cheeses.

    This also argues hard against vacation home ownership, the rationale of which I can't argue. Sure, there's something great about just going whenever you want to go w/o having to book and all that shit. But, still. I can spend one or two months in Chelan, for example, for the rest of my life for a lot less than it will cost to own there.

    Part of if is every American's instinct to value "ownership" over borrowing and renting. But for the second home, that's not so much a "need", as is your primary, and more of "nice to have". The economics rarely shake out if there is no investment motive.
    I guess it depends on when you buy and when you sell. When was the last time real estate didn't appreciate over a ten year window? I could spend $20K per year to stay on Lake Chelan for a couple of months per summer or I could have bought a house on the lake in 2009 for $400K that I could sell today for $800K. After interest, taxes, insurance, and real estate fees, this theoretical vacation home would add to my wealth by about the exact same dollar amount those yearly rentals for a dozen years would have subtracted from it (roughly $250K).

    A coworker of mine takes his family to Maui every year. About five or six years ago, he did the math and realized he was pissing a lot of money away. He bought a condo on the beach, rents it out through VRBO when he's not there, and spends about four weeks per year using it himself. He could sell it today and pocket six figures easy after subtracting all expenses.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,027

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    $400k home in CA lol

    Turlock ?
    Maybe. Nephew recently bought a little starter home shitbox in North Merced in the low 300's

    I wood of responded sooner but I was walking the dogs down to the beach and back

    because I can
    I’ll PM you from the chairlift on a powder day some time.
    Snow is for visiting, not living in
    It snows 40 inches per year at my house. 25 mins away it snows 430 inches per year. The Cascades are an amazing sponge.
    So you have to live in it, and still have to drive to play in it

    Really selling me on Bend
    BDWYA
    Drew Bledsoe and Dwight from the Office approve this message.

    Bledsoe lives down the street apparently.
    Look for the tall guy wandering around with a wine glass.

  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800

    Speaking of kitchen remodels, @RaceBannon - new HGTV show:

    https://toofab.com/2021/03/02/jonathan-knight-farmhouse-fixer-nkotb/

    First minute, I'm like "hey - that's one of the New Kids"....sho' nuff, it is.

    Not Lindsey Bennett but not bad.

    Our interior designer is a six foot tall milf.
    Pics?