You could call us and get it all including new cabinets for 20 to 30 k. If we were in Oregon
Get a reputable kitchen remodeling company that acts as the GC. Don't do it yourself.
Get more than one price and check references. Trust no one. Don't pay over 30 percent up front. Balance when it passes your wife's punch list.
Put a timeline in the agreement
Ok @RaceBannon so I'm almost done with my interior painting which has made a huge difference. We're talking a nice interior designer down the street to help my wife figure out the grand vision. They will recommend an kitchen remodeling GC or three for me to chat with.
You still think 30K will get someone new granite countertops, sink, backsplash, fridge, downdraft range/oven AND decent new cabinets? Again, medium size kitchen we're talking about here. It seems like the non real wood cabinets have gone up a lot in quality of late.
Depends on the appliances. Our Sub-Zero fridge over freezer was $10k alone. Add matching beverage/wine fridge, Wolf cooktop, vent, double ovens and Meile dishwasher and you are at $22k for appliances. Delivered but not installed.
We did Sollera cabinets out of BC via Phinney Ridge Cabinet Co., very nice but not top of the line. https://www.solleracabinets.com/ Cabinets were $25k not including installation or under cab lighting which were extra. This pricing does include their design services which are top notch.
Cabinets usually don't come with drawer and door pulls. There's another $500-1k.
Quartz countertops and backsplash are the tits, I think cheaper than granite. You get a look somewhere between concrete and natural stone. Durable, easy to clean, no maintenance. https://pentalquartz.com/ Countertops + backsplash $8k installed.
Kraus sinks and faucets. Made in China knockoffs of high end European stuff for a fraction of the price. They look great, work great, and have held up nicely. Way better than what the big box stores carry. We originally got a uber expensive Euro faucet for the main sink and it rusted within 30 days. No bueno. I usually don't like made in China stuff, but these would be an exception and your interior designer is not gonna be pimping them.
So $60k-ish not including the new lighting, new floor, speakers, paint, etc. which was part of a bigger whole house redo.
I don't think we'll go crazy high end appliance. Probably another Jenn Air down draft and what run of the mill decent fridge. We ain't in the country club so I don't need to go all Viking or shit like that. I think it's important to not overspend on shit of which you won't make it back if you had to sell the home.
I'm open to quartz.
One thing we did in our latest remodel was porcelain countertops. Looks like marble but you don't have to put up with all of the porous bullshit. Significantly cheaper too.
Another corner you can cut is buying IKEA cabinets but adding third party panels on front so they don't look like IKEA.
Another penny pinching protip. I got a Bertazonni dual fuel range. Probably 1/2 price of the wolf/Viking etc brands and I’ve been very happy. Pretty stylish too.
You don't show up for weeks and this is what you come up with?
I can't complain ... I ventured over to @RaceBannon 's shit hole forum and found myself sucked into another dark topic, only to have it twisted and fucked up and thrown back at me.
Notwithstanding the clarity and perspective added to said thread, I was lambasted with insults and not even one thank you.
Fuck you Racebannon. You can have my charity clicks for today.
Another penny pinching protip. I got a Bertazonni dual fuel range. Probably 1/2 price of the wolf/Viking etc brands and I’ve been very happy. Pretty stylish too.
FWIW, our realtor (this is in SF mind you) told us if we were going ever going to sell, to get a Wolf, Wolf, or a Wolf. Apparently those red knobs pay for themselves and more when buyers come through.
Another penny pinching protip. I got a Bertazonni dual fuel range. Probably 1/2 price of the wolf/Viking etc brands and I’ve been very happy. Pretty stylish too.
FWIW, our realtor (this is in SF mind you) told us if we were going ever going to sell, to get a Wolf, Wolf, or a Wolf. Apparently those red knobs pay for themselves and more when buyers come through.
I believe it. But that Bertazonni is a nice-looking range.
Another penny pinching protip. I got a Bertazonni dual fuel range. Probably 1/2 price of the wolf/Viking etc brands and I’ve been very happy. Pretty stylish too.
FWIW, our realtor (this is in SF mind you) told us if we were going ever going to sell, to get a Wolf, Wolf, or a Wolf. Apparently those red knobs pay for themselves and more when buyers come through.
You don't show up for weeks and this is what you come up with?
I can't complain ... I ventured over to @RaceBannon 's shit hole forum and found myself sucked into another dark topic, only to have it twisted and fucked up and thrown back at me.
Notwithstanding the clarity and perspective added to said thread, I was lambasted with insults and not even one thank you.
Fuck you Racebannon. You can have my charity clicks for today.
You don't show up for weeks and this is what you come up with?
I can't complain ... I ventured over to @RaceBannon 's shit hole forum and found myself sucked into another dark topic, only to have it twisted and fucked up and thrown back at me.
Notwithstanding the clarity and perspective added to said thread, I was lambasted with insults and not even one thank you.
Fuck you Racebannon. You can have my charity clicks for today.
Another penny pinching protip. I got a Bertazonni dual fuel range. Probably 1/2 price of the wolf/Viking etc brands and I’ve been very happy. Pretty stylish too.
FWIW, our realtor (this is in SF mind you) told us if we were going ever going to sell, to get a Wolf, Wolf, or a Wolf. Apparently those red knobs pay for themselves and more when buyers come through.
Another penny pinching protip. I got a Bertazonni dual fuel range. Probably 1/2 price of the wolf/Viking etc brands and I’ve been very happy. Pretty stylish too.
FWIW, our realtor (this is in SF mind you) told us if we were going ever going to sell, to get a Wolf, Wolf, or a Wolf. Apparently those red knobs pay for themselves and more when buyers come through.
Fun fact: the Wolf cooktop came with red knobs and stainless steel knobs.
You could call us and get it all including new cabinets for 20 to 30 k. If we were in Oregon
Get a reputable kitchen remodeling company that acts as the GC. Don't do it yourself.
Get more than one price and check references. Trust no one. Don't pay over 30 percent up front. Balance when it passes your wife's punch list.
Put a timeline in the agreement
Ok @RaceBannon so I'm almost done with my interior painting which has made a huge difference. We're talking a nice interior designer down the street to help my wife figure out the grand vision. They will recommend an kitchen remodeling GC or three for me to chat with.
You still think 30K will get someone new granite countertops, sink, backsplash, fridge, downdraft range/oven AND decent new cabinets? Again, medium size kitchen we're talking about here. It seems like the non real wood cabinets have gone up a lot in quality of late.
Depends on the appliances. Our Sub-Zero fridge over freezer was $10k alone. Add matching beverage/wine fridge, Wolf cooktop, vent, double ovens and Meile dishwasher and you are at $22k for appliances. Delivered but not installed.
We did Sollera cabinets out of BC via Phinney Ridge Cabinet Co., very nice but not top of the line. https://www.solleracabinets.com/ Cabinets were $25k not including installation or under cab lighting which were extra. This pricing does include their design services which are top notch.
Cabinets usually don't come with drawer and door pulls. There's another $500-1k.
Quartz countertops and backsplash are the tits, I think cheaper than granite. You get a look somewhere between concrete and natural stone. Durable, easy to clean, no maintenance. https://pentalquartz.com/ Countertops + backsplash $8k installed.
Kraus sinks and faucets. Made in China knockoffs of high end European stuff for a fraction of the price. They look great, work great, and have held up nicely. Way better than what the big box stores carry. We originally got a uber expensive Euro faucet for the main sink and it rusted within 30 days. No bueno. I usually don't like made in China stuff, but these would be an exception and your interior designer is not gonna be pimping them.
So $60k-ish not including the new lighting, new floor, speakers, paint, etc. which was part of a bigger whole house redo.
I don't think we'll go crazy high end appliance. Probably another Jenn Air down draft and what run of the mill decent fridge. We ain't in the country club so I don't need to go all Viking or shit like that. I think it's important to not overspend on shit of which you won't make it back if you had to sell the home.
I'm open to quartz.
One thing we did in our latest remodel was porcelain countertops. Looks like marble but you don't have to put up with all of the porous bullshit. Significantly cheaper too.
Another corner you can cut is buying IKEA cabinets but adding third party panels on front so they don't look like IKEA.
Porcelain? Does it chip? Is it tuff? Harbor Tuff? What about quartz? I've heard that shit is indestructible.
$30k gets you a Tug kitchen. $60k gets you a @creepycoug Finance Bored kitchen.
Who are you?
What do you think?
Honestly? I've never done it. The we raised the kids in was nice when we bought the house, but as we approached the last several years before selling, it had clearly become dated. Of course, I wasn't going to remodel a kitchen for someone else, and the house had skrong location advantages that would overcome some of the things I was too cheap to do.
That said, I've known people who've spent anywhere from $30k on the very low end to over $80, which isn't hard when you start throwing around Wolf and Sub-Zero shit. That shit alone will get you to $30k easily. Because you're not just getting the Wolf Range, you're getting the double oven and the matching micro and all that shit. And you're going to redo your floor - @RaceBannon - and when you start talking cabinets the dolla bills start flying like you're in an Atlanta strip club.
$30k gets you a Tug kitchen. $60k gets you a @creepycoug Finance Bored kitchen.
Who are you?
What do you think?
Looks like a @creepycoug lean but you seem to be entertaining a Tug budget.
The Wolf/Sub-Zero name is worth the premium in product, prestige, and value.
While a much smaller expense, if you don’t get a Miele dishwasher I’ll come down there and punch you in the throat.
I more like an $1100 Bosch dishwasher kind of guy. Super quiet and gets the shit clean. I have a down draft range on a island. Might limit my options some.
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Another corner you can cut is buying IKEA cabinets but adding third party panels on front so they don't look like IKEA.
I can't complain ... I ventured over to @RaceBannon 's shit hole forum and found myself sucked into another dark topic, only to have it twisted and fucked up and thrown back at me.
Notwithstanding the clarity and perspective added to said thread, I was lambasted with insults and not even one thank you.
Fuck you Racebannon. You can have my charity clicks for today.
@Swaye?! True!!!?!?
I see a flooring question coming in this thread.
Don't take it to the Tug. Leave it here.
Who are you?
That said, I've known people who've spent anywhere from $30k on the very low end to over $80, which isn't hard when you start throwing around Wolf and Sub-Zero shit. That shit alone will get you to $30k easily. Because you're not just getting the Wolf Range, you're getting the double oven and the matching micro and all that shit. And you're going to redo your floor - @RaceBannon - and when you start talking cabinets the dolla bills start flying like you're in an Atlanta strip club.
The lightbulb finally went on with Mrs. Throbber v2.0 last week that
winterinflation is coming.The re-fi/HELOC/complete Property Brothers gut/makeover is moving at a rapid pace. Last document sent in today.
FYFMFE.
The Wolf/Sub-Zero name is worth the premium in product, prestige, and value.
While a much smaller expense, if you don’t get a Miele dishwasher I’ll come down there and punch you in the throat.
Then you gotta get a good company to install etc and then I'm like fuck it let's just move.