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Except guns Bill didn't screw shit up just to be liberal. HE's a complete POS and his wife makes him look like a choir boy but he didn't try and destroy democracy like Obunghole.Swaye said:
I'm a pretty conservative dude, even back then, but I didn't loathe all of Bills politics. Pretty middle of the road old school Dem. And while it got contentious, him and Newt actually worked out pretty well together. It was no Dutch and Tip, but it worked, Way better than the massive dysfunction since then. The Trump and Pelosi combo is about as embarrassing as anything can get in governance.creepycoug said:
Bill was a pretty conservative liberal, particularly on crime. Too bad he turned out to be such a POS.SFGbob said:I was a liberal up until the early 1990s. LA riots and the inherent contradictions and dishonesty on the left drove me out of the party. 1994 Republican take over of the House, along with the endless string of lies the Rats told us regarding what would happen if the GOP passed Welfare reform cemented the door for me to ever return to the Rat party.
I was looking for solutions and for things that worked and the left had no interest in either of those. They didn't care if Welfare made things worse or had no impact at all. Read Charles Murray, Losing Ground while I was still nominally a Rat, that had a huge influence on moving me to the right. I still voted for Clinton in 1992, after being interested in Perot but that was the last time I voted for a Rat. -
Hahaha!! Good luck on that one. The guy is an absolute moron.creepycoug said:
Then what does?HHusky said:
Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?pawz said:
Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.HHusky said:Time to suggest equal time for the other side?
Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.
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There was a post?creepycoug said: -
I should have let him continue and opine. It would have probably been even better and more hilarious.creepycoug said:
Then what does?HHusky said:
Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?pawz said:
Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.HHusky said:Time to suggest equal time for the other side?
Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.
Interested in your serious response here.
Veteran presence on the bored @creepycoug making the hi IQ football plays. -
Perhaps you missed the TugCon memo. When they say capitalism, they're talking laissez-faire. Anything less is socialism.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Who said unfettered? The point is that even Communist China can thank countless ventures into capitalism for boosting nearly a billion people into the middle class.HHusky said:
China is your example of unfettered capitalism?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Not even the Chinese would agree with you.HHusky said:
Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?pawz said:
Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.HHusky said:Time to suggest equal time for the other side?
Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
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Don't hold your breath. H is twee-as-fuck. Probably had a "visualize whirled peas" bumper sticker before he covered it with Co-Exist.creepycoug said:
Then what does?HHusky said:
Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?pawz said:
Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.HHusky said:Time to suggest equal time for the other side?
Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.
Interested in your serious response here. -
chinned for "twee"TurdBomber said:
Don't hold your breath. H is twee-as-fuck. Probably had a "visualize whirled peas" bumper sticker before he covered it with Co-Exist.creepycoug said:
Then what does?HHusky said:
Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?pawz said:
Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.HHusky said:Time to suggest equal time for the other side?
Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.
Interested in your serious response here. -
Regulated capitalism with progressive taxation can do it, but that's not what the TugCon universe is preaching. Unregulated, barely taxed capitalism is their ideal, and that does NOT lift "entire societies out of poverty". As every economist worth a damn knows, unregulated capitalism explodes like a diesel engine without a governor.creepycoug said:
Then what does?HHusky said:
Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?pawz said:
Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.HHusky said:Time to suggest equal time for the other side?
Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.
Interested in your serious response here.
The funny thing is, the die hard anarcho-capitalists here think capitalism is fragile. But capitalism doesn't whither in the presence of regulation; it thrives. It does so because it is vital and it can harness human motivations to increase wealth for a society, but not without taking its classic problems into account as well.







