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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,354
    Swaye said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    pawz said:

    HHusky said:

    Time to suggest equal time for the other side?

    Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.
    Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?

    Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
    Then what does?

    And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.

    Interested in your serious response here.
    Regulated capitalism with progressive taxation can do it, but that's not what the TugCon universe is preaching. Unregulated, barely taxed capitalism is their ideal, and that does NOT lift "entire societies out of poverty". As every economist worth a damn knows, unregulated capitalism explodes like a diesel engine without a governor.

    The funny thing is, the die hard anarcho-capitalists here think capitalism is fragile. But capitalism doesn't whither in the presence of regulation; it thrives. It does so because it is vital and it can harness human motivations to increase wealth for a society, but not without taking its classic problems into account as well.
    So how does it work then that Trump took over, immediately deregulated, and the unemployment rate was the lowest we've seen in 50 years while business boomed?

    Unemployment was already declining and business had been getting better in an uninterrupted fashion for five years. Low unemployment, btw, was largely a function of demographics and labor scarcity, which was already threatening recession before the pandemic ever hit. (The current recession began in February, btw, which isn't well explained by Covid.)
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,354
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    pawz said:

    HHusky said:

    Time to suggest equal time for the other side?

    Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.
    Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?

    Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
    Then what does?

    And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.

    Interested in your serious response here.
    Regulated capitalism with progressive taxation can do it, but that's not what the TugCon universe is preaching. Unregulated, barely taxed capitalism is their ideal, and that does NOT lift "entire societies out of poverty". As every economist worth a damn knows, unregulated capitalism explodes like a diesel engine without a governor.

    The funny thing is, the die hard anarcho-capitalists here think capitalism is fragile. But capitalism doesn't whither in the presence of regulation; it thrives. It does so because it is vital and it can harness human motivations to increase wealth for a society, but not without taking its classic problems into account as well.
    True, who can forget about well capitalism works in countries like North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Zimbabwe, or the Soviet Union. Capitalism thrives in regulation!!!
    So much for serious responses.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,354
    edited September 2020
    Swaye said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    pawz said:

    HHusky said:

    Time to suggest equal time for the other side?

    Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.
    Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?

    Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
    Then what does?

    And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.

    Interested in your serious response here.
    Regulated capitalism with progressive taxation can do it, but that's not what the TugCon universe is preaching. Unregulated, barely taxed capitalism is their ideal, and that does NOT lift "entire societies out of poverty". As every economist worth a damn knows, unregulated capitalism explodes like a diesel engine without a governor.

    The funny thing is, the die hard anarcho-capitalists here think capitalism is fragile. But capitalism doesn't whither in the presence of regulation; it thrives. It does so because it is vital and it can harness human motivations to increase wealth for a society, but not without taking its classic problems into account as well.
    True, who can forget about well capitalism works in countries like North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Zimbabwe, or the Soviet Union. Capitalism thrives in regulation!!!
    I am dumbfounded at this guy. I also beat you by 53 seconds. "Heavy regulation is the engine of growth!" - said no economist ever
    Sure, obviously when I said regulation is necessary I was advocating criminalizing private industry, said no MBA ever.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,354

    HHusky said:

    Swaye said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    pawz said:

    HHusky said:

    Time to suggest equal time for the other side?

    Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.
    Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?

    Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
    Then what does?

    And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.

    Interested in your serious response here.
    Regulated capitalism with progressive taxation can do it, but that's not what the TugCon universe is preaching. Unregulated, barely taxed capitalism is their ideal, and that does NOT lift "entire societies out of poverty". As every economist worth a damn knows, unregulated capitalism explodes like a diesel engine without a governor.

    The funny thing is, the die hard anarcho-capitalists here think capitalism is fragile. But capitalism doesn't whither in the presence of regulation; it thrives. It does so because it is vital and it can harness human motivations to increase wealth for a society, but not without taking its classic problems into account as well.
    True, who can forget about well capitalism works in countries like North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Zimbabwe, or the Soviet Union. Capitalism thrives in regulation!!!
    I am dumbfounded at this guy. I also beat you by 53 seconds. "Heavy regulation is the engine of growth!" - said no economist ever
    Sure, obviously when I said regulation is necessary I was advocating criminalizing private industry, said no MBA ever.
    You should actually listen to the people you vote for
    You first.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,442 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Swaye said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    pawz said:

    HHusky said:

    Time to suggest equal time for the other side?

    Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.
    Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?

    Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
    Then what does?

    And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.

    Interested in your serious response here.
    Regulated capitalism with progressive taxation can do it, but that's not what the TugCon universe is preaching. Unregulated, barely taxed capitalism is their ideal, and that does NOT lift "entire societies out of poverty". As every economist worth a damn knows, unregulated capitalism explodes like a diesel engine without a governor.

    The funny thing is, the die hard anarcho-capitalists here think capitalism is fragile. But capitalism doesn't whither in the presence of regulation; it thrives. It does so because it is vital and it can harness human motivations to increase wealth for a society, but not without taking its classic problems into account as well.
    True, who can forget about well capitalism works in countries like North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Zimbabwe, or the Soviet Union. Capitalism thrives in regulation!!!
    I am dumbfounded at this guy. I also beat you by 53 seconds. "Heavy regulation is the engine of growth!" - said no economist ever
    Sure, obviously when I said regulation is necessary I was advocating criminalizing private industry, said no MBA ever.
    You should actually listen to the people you vote for
    You first.
    I love a booming economy. That's why I voted for Trump

    Biden's ban on fracking alone is an economy killer

    Despite it being a regulation
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,354

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Swaye said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    pawz said:

    HHusky said:

    Time to suggest equal time for the other side?

    Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.
    Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?

    Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
    Then what does?

    And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.

    Interested in your serious response here.
    Regulated capitalism with progressive taxation can do it, but that's not what the TugCon universe is preaching. Unregulated, barely taxed capitalism is their ideal, and that does NOT lift "entire societies out of poverty". As every economist worth a damn knows, unregulated capitalism explodes like a diesel engine without a governor.

    The funny thing is, the die hard anarcho-capitalists here think capitalism is fragile. But capitalism doesn't whither in the presence of regulation; it thrives. It does so because it is vital and it can harness human motivations to increase wealth for a society, but not without taking its classic problems into account as well.
    True, who can forget about well capitalism works in countries like North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Zimbabwe, or the Soviet Union. Capitalism thrives in regulation!!!
    I am dumbfounded at this guy. I also beat you by 53 seconds. "Heavy regulation is the engine of growth!" - said no economist ever
    Sure, obviously when I said regulation is necessary I was advocating criminalizing private industry, said no MBA ever.
    You should actually listen to the people you vote for
    You first.
    I love a booming economy. That's why I voted for Trump

    Biden's ban on fracking alone is an economy killer

    Despite it being a regulation
    One of the classic economic problems with the free market, identified by the most pro-capitalist econ faculty you can ever imagine--the UW econ and business faculty of the 1970s--is externalities. What, besides no regulation on fracking at all, are you advocating?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,442 Founders Club
    I told you. Listen to what the people you vote for actually advocate


  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,354

    I told you. Listen to what the people you vote for actually advocate


    I don't vote in NY and wouldn't have supported AOC in her primary.

    Still wood, though.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,442 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    I told you. Listen to what the people you vote for actually advocate


    I don't vote in NY and wouldn't have supported AOC in her primary.

    Still wood, though.
    Biden is on board

    Like I said......
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,354

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    pawz said:

    HHusky said:

    Time to suggest equal time for the other side?

    Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.
    Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?

    Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
    Then what does?

    And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.

    Interested in your serious response here.
    Regulated capitalism with progressive taxation can do it, but that's not what the TugCon universe is preaching. Unregulated, barely taxed capitalism is their ideal, and that does NOT lift "entire societies out of poverty". As every economist worth a damn knows, unregulated capitalism explodes like a diesel engine without a governor.

    The funny thing is, the die hard anarcho-capitalists here think capitalism is fragile. But capitalism doesn't whither in the presence of regulation; it thrives. It does so because it is vital and it can harness human motivations to increase wealth for a society, but not without taking its classic problems into account as well.
    I support progressive taxation but you're still pompous and bought the China Flu bullshit hook, line, and sinker. Now you cheer deaths.
    Bullshit? What deaths are we talking about then?

    Fat, drunk and incoherent is no way to go through life, son.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,873 Standard Supporter

    HHusky said:

    pawz said:

    HHusky said:

    Time to suggest equal time for the other side?

    Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.
    Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?

    Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
    Then what does?

    And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.

    Interested in your serious response here.
    Don't hold your breath. H is twee-as-fuck. Probably had a "visualize whirled peas" bumper sticker before he covered it with Co-Exist.
    chinned for "twee"
    Twee is the upper-limit for H's attempts at humor. And that's being generous.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,942
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    pawz said:

    HHusky said:

    Time to suggest equal time for the other side?

    Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.
    Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?

    Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
    Not even the Chinese would agree with you.
    China is your example of unfettered capitalism?

    Good luck with that.
    Who said unfettered? The point is that even Communist China can thank countless ventures into capitalism for boosting nearly a billion people into the middle class.
    Perhaps you missed the TugCon memo. When they say capitalism, they're talking laissez-faire. Anything less is socialism.
    Must be nice getting to argue against statements and claims that nobody ever made. Explains why you feel you're so smart Dazzler.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,942
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    pawz said:

    HHusky said:

    Time to suggest equal time for the other side?

    Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.
    Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?

    Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
    Then what does?

    And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.

    Interested in your serious response here.
    Regulated capitalism with progressive taxation can do it, but that's not what the TugCon universe is preaching. Unregulated, barely taxed capitalism is their ideal, and that does NOT lift "entire societies out of poverty". As every economist worth a damn knows, unregulated capitalism explodes like a diesel engine without a governor.

    The funny thing is, the die hard anarcho-capitalists here think capitalism is fragile. But capitalism doesn't whither in the presence of regulation; it thrives. It does so because it is vital and it can harness human motivations to increase wealth for a society, but not without taking its classic problems into account as well.
    And by "barely taxed" the Dazzler is referring to tax rate of 25%.
  • HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited September 2020
    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    pawz said:

    HHusky said:

    Time to suggest equal time for the other side?

    Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.
    Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?

    Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
    Then what does?

    And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.

    Interested in your serious response here.
    Regulated capitalism with progressive taxation can do it, but that's not what the TugCon universe is preaching. Unregulated, barely taxed capitalism is their ideal, and that does NOT lift "entire societies out of poverty". As every economist worth a damn knows, unregulated capitalism explodes like a diesel engine without a governor.

    The funny thing is, the die hard anarcho-capitalists here think capitalism is fragile. But capitalism doesn't whither in the presence of regulation; it thrives. It does so because it is vital and it can harness human motivations to increase wealth for a society, but not without taking its classic problems into account as well.
    True, who can forget about well capitalism works in countries like North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Zimbabwe, or the Soviet Union. Capitalism thrives in regulation!!!
    So much for serious responses.
    I bet flat earthers feel the same way when people dont respond to their intellectually equivalent blanket statements seriously.
  • HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Swaye said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    pawz said:

    HHusky said:

    Time to suggest equal time for the other side?

    Absolutely. Our kids NEED to know how capitalism raises entire societies out of poverty better than any other system - AINEC.
    Capitalism doesn't raise entire societies out of poverty. Capitalism's biggest fans don't make that argument. Didn't any of you girls take any economics courses?

    Anyway, the converse of Black Lives Matter is that they don't.
    Then what does?

    And, in fact capitalism’s biggest fans, indeed even its intellectual antithesis, say otherwise. Even Marx acknowledged capitalism’s unique ability to reduce and often entirely limit, scarcity.

    Interested in your serious response here.
    Regulated capitalism with progressive taxation can do it, but that's not what the TugCon universe is preaching. Unregulated, barely taxed capitalism is their ideal, and that does NOT lift "entire societies out of poverty". As every economist worth a damn knows, unregulated capitalism explodes like a diesel engine without a governor.

    The funny thing is, the die hard anarcho-capitalists here think capitalism is fragile. But capitalism doesn't whither in the presence of regulation; it thrives. It does so because it is vital and it can harness human motivations to increase wealth for a society, but not without taking its classic problems into account as well.
    True, who can forget about well capitalism works in countries like North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Zimbabwe, or the Soviet Union. Capitalism thrives in regulation!!!
    I am dumbfounded at this guy. I also beat you by 53 seconds. "Heavy regulation is the engine of growth!" - said no economist ever
    Sure, obviously when I said regulation is necessary I was advocating criminalizing private industry, said no MBA ever.
    You should actually listen to the people you vote for
    You first.
    I love a booming economy. That's why I voted for Trump

    Biden's ban on fracking alone is an economy killer

    Despite it being a regulation
    One of the classic economic problems with the free market, identified by the most pro-capitalist econ faculty you can ever imagine--the UW econ and business faculty of the 1970s--is externalities. What, besides no regulation on fracking at all, are you advocating?
    There is nothing on earth that cant be regulated into the ground under the justification of "externality".... But that wasn't what you originally said...

    Maybe try again without the general "capitalism doesn't whither in the presence of regulation; it thrives."

    Here Ill do it for you... "Capitalism requires a delicate balance of free market individual liberty working in conjunction with regulation mostly around monopolies, individual property rights, and intellectual property. There are some cases where healthy debate and small regulations around specific, and limited, externalities should be implemented via the established legal process due to the particularly unbounded definition of externality and historical propensity of the State to collect power."

    If you are just inarticulately trying to say; "big business loves big government" I agree... but I dont think that is what you are saying...
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