Great guy? Quite the opposite it seems. Does it justify the excessive force used to detain him?
Was it excessive? According to one of the eyewitnesses the cops were yelling at him to drop the knife. He'd already been tazed and was fighting with the police. So what are the cops options as he reaches into his vehicle refusing to follow their commands?
Call a social worker.
So you were just running your mouth. Got it.
Always a tough crowd with you. Sorry, I'll be more clear. If all of those things end up being true and there was good cause to think he was going into his car for potentially a firearm, then sure, further force than a tazer may have been justified.
So you have no idea if it was excessive, you just called it excessive. Got it.
Imagine that if he had been in jail where he belonged he wouldn't be shot. But hey jails are for people who won't wear a mask!
The guy knew he was going to jail for some time because of the felony warrants and instead of facing up to his charges like an adult, he decided to fuck around and eventually got tasered and then shot. Why am I supposed to feel bad for him?
Millionaire NBA players boycotting their games tonight, will now go sit in their Disney suites and lecture white minimum wage room service workers about their privilege.
Great guy? Quite the opposite it seems. Does it justify the excessive force used to detain him?
Was it excessive? According to one of the eyewitnesses the cops were yelling at him to drop the knife. He'd already been tazed and was fighting with the police. So what are the cops options as he reaches into his vehicle refusing to follow their commands?
Call a social worker.
So you were just running your mouth. Got it.
Always a tough crowd with you. Sorry, I'll be more clear. If all of those things end up being true and there was good cause to think he was going into his car for potentially a firearm, then sure, further force than a tazer may have been justified.
So you have no idea if it was excessive, you just called it excessive. Got it.
Not sure the point you’re making. If I didn’t know the entire context, then the force may not seem justified. Once I *do* know the entire context, I can say that the force may not have been excessive, even within the timeline of this thread.
Great guy? Quite the opposite it seems. Does it justify the excessive force used to detain him?
Was it excessive? According to one of the eyewitnesses the cops were yelling at him to drop the knife. He'd already been tazed and was fighting with the police. So what are the cops options as he reaches into his vehicle refusing to follow their commands?
Call a social worker.
So you were just running your mouth. Got it.
Always a tough crowd with you. Sorry, I'll be more clear. If all of those things end up being true and there was good cause to think he was going into his car for potentially a firearm, then sure, further force than a tazer may have been justified.
So you have no idea if it was excessive, you just called it excessive. Got it.
Not sure the point you’re making. If I didn’t know the entire context, then the force may not seem justified. Once I *do* know the entire context, I can say that the force may not have been excessive, even within the timeline of this thread.
I don’t have an initial distrust of police.
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Why would you distrust the enforcement arm of the government you love?
Great guy? Quite the opposite it seems. Does it justify the excessive force used to detain him?
Was it excessive? According to one of the eyewitnesses the cops were yelling at him to drop the knife. He'd already been tazed and was fighting with the police. So what are the cops options as he reaches into his vehicle refusing to follow their commands?
Call a social worker.
So you were just running your mouth. Got it.
Always a tough crowd with you. Sorry, I'll be more clear. If all of those things end up being true and there was good cause to think he was going into his car for potentially a firearm, then sure, further force than a tazer may have been justified.
So you have no idea if it was excessive, you just called it excessive. Got it.
Not sure the point you’re making. If I didn’t know the entire context, then the force may not seem justified. Once I *do* know the entire context, I can say that the force may not have been excessive, even within the timeline of this thread.
I don’t have an initial distrust of police.
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Why would you distrust the enforcement arm of the government you love?
That’s the kicker, I don’t. I learn as I go with these stories. If he was an immediate threat, then use the force authorized to you for that specific scenario.
Just now, I saw another video of it that shows him being tazed while walking to his car and then being shot shortly thereafter. It didn’t *look* as if 7 shots were necessary, but again, this is why investigations happen.
Great guy? Quite the opposite it seems. Does it justify the excessive force used to detain him?
Was it excessive? According to one of the eyewitnesses the cops were yelling at him to drop the knife. He'd already been tazed and was fighting with the police. So what are the cops options as he reaches into his vehicle refusing to follow their commands?
Call a social worker.
So you were just running your mouth. Got it.
Always a tough crowd with you. Sorry, I'll be more clear. If all of those things end up being true and there was good cause to think he was going into his car for potentially a firearm, then sure, further force than a tazer may have been justified.
So you have no idea if it was excessive, you just called it excessive. Got it.
Not sure the point you’re making. If I didn’t know the entire context, then the force may not seem justified. Once I *do* know the entire context, I can say that the force may not have been excessive, even within the timeline of this thread.
I don’t have an initial distrust of police.
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Why would you distrust the enforcement arm of the government you love?
That’s the kicker, I don’t. I learn as I go with these stories. If he was an immediate threat, then use the force authorized to you for that specific scenario.
Just now, I saw another video of it that shows him being tazed while walking to his car and then being shot shortly thereafter. It didn’t *look* as if 7 shots were necessary, but again, this is why investigations happen.
What would have been the correct number of times to shoot him?
How many shots are the correct amount? Hmmmmm. The correct number of times is. . . I don’t know, but seven is too many. It depends upon several factors: 1) what was his intent based upon many hours of after-the-riot speculation, the statements of his mom, baby-daddy, cousins, pastor (who didn’t know his name five minutes ago)? 2) what is the color of his epidermis? 3) what is the color of the epidermis of each cop who shot him? 4) who is the sitting president? 4) was he leaving merely to go to a church social, or just turning his life around, or take care of his ailing grandma?
What should under no circumstances be considered is the information available to the responding officers. Said information could include the nature of the call, the the conviction status of the person causing the problems, any warrants, felony or otherwise attached to said person, any actions of the person post-contact such as level of cooperation, admissions of the person regarding the possession of weapons, failure to obey lawful commands, attempts to flee, failure to be affected by a taser application, attempts to flee in a vehicle with children inside, and/or continuing to fight after being shot. That much I, and every other thinking person, know.
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Millionaire NBA players boycotting their games tonight, will now go sit in their Disney suites and lecture white minimum wage room service workers about their privilege.
Looks like the the players are getting to much needed rest. Hopefully they can spend time with their kiddos before the first round is in the books.
I love the NBA. Think this is suicide
I don’t have an initial distrust of police.
If you're a rapist black criminal who was shot by the police the NBA will stop all games for you.
If you're a retired black police officer who was murdered by rioters for defending a small business they won't bat an eye.
Why would you distrust the enforcement arm of the government you love?
I’m also mad and tired about our collective inability to allow the facts to come out and react accordingly
Just now, I saw another video of it that shows him being tazed while walking to his car and then being shot shortly thereafter. It didn’t *look* as if 7 shots were necessary, but again, this is why investigations happen.
What should under no circumstances be considered is the information available to the responding officers. Said information could include the nature of the call, the the conviction status of the person causing the problems, any warrants, felony or otherwise attached to said person, any actions of the person post-contact such as level of cooperation, admissions of the person regarding the possession of weapons, failure to obey lawful commands, attempts to flee, failure to be affected by a taser application, attempts to flee in a vehicle with children inside, and/or continuing to fight after being shot. That much I, and every other thinking person, know.