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  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited July 2020
    HHusky said:

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    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
    I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.

    And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?

    Why are you still posting in this thread?

    I asked you questions, you had a chance to intelligently respond and chose to dodge...

    You do understand that your dodges, non responses, and deflections from legitimate questions push people away from your supposedly heartfelt positions?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,332
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
    I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.

    And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?

    Why are you still posting in this thread?

    I asked you questions, you had a chance to intelligently respond and chose to dodge...

    You do understand that your dodges, non responses, and deflections from legitimate questions push people away from your supposedly heartfelt positions?
    Make your point if you have one. You obviously feel butt hurt about not getting some response you expected to something.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,496 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2020

    We shouldn't be shutting down the economy because we can't afford it. This is like great granny on her death bed and the only way to save her is to spend $400,000 on complicated medical procedures, and bankrupt your family and lose your house and everything. You know what people do when that happens? They let granny die. Because it's not worth it.

    Except - in the US, medical insurance picks up the tab and keeps Granny alive until Junior gets released from rehab. And then the cost gets shoved on to the rest of us.

    Which is what shutting down the economy is doing right now.

    We get to the same place - shutting down the economy has fucked us so Uncle Joe can stay alive a few more days and might have a shot for a grand visit from Junior in November.

    So worth it to the TDS/AARGH MEAN ORANGE MAN sufferers.


  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,332
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
    I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.

    And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?

    Why are you still posting in this thread?

    I asked you questions, you had a chance to intelligently respond and chose to dodge...

    You do understand that your dodges, non responses, and deflections from legitimate questions push people away from your supposedly heartfelt positions?
    Make your point if you have one. You obviously feel butt hurt about not getting some response you expected to something.
    still cant respond to a basic question. sad.
    So no point.

    Sad!
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
    I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.

    And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?

    Why are you still posting in this thread?

    I asked you questions, you had a chance to intelligently respond and chose to dodge...

    You do understand that your dodges, non responses, and deflections from legitimate questions push people away from your supposedly heartfelt positions?
    Make your point if you have one. You obviously feel butt hurt about not getting some response you expected to something.
    still cant respond to a basic question. sad.
    So no point.

    Sad!
    The point is that you have such a lack of knowledge on the topic at hand that you cant even intelligently respond to a few basic questions, let alone expand further afterwards.

    Instead, because you are so emotionally attached to the politics and you cant back up your position using your understanding of the topic, you resort to lashing out and deflecting like a teenage girl.

    You had an opportunity to show otherwise... you failed...
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,332
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
    I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.

    And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?

    Why are you still posting in this thread?

    I asked you questions, you had a chance to intelligently respond and chose to dodge...

    You do understand that your dodges, non responses, and deflections from legitimate questions push people away from your supposedly heartfelt positions?
    Make your point if you have one. You obviously feel butt hurt about not getting some response you expected to something.
    still cant respond to a basic question. sad.
    So no point.

    Sad!
    The point is that you have such a lack of knowledge on the topic at hand that you cant even intelligently respond to a few basic questions, let alone expand further afterwards.

    Instead, because you are so emotionally attached to the politics and you cant back up your position using your understanding of the topic, you resort to lashing out and deflecting like a teenage girl.

    You had an opportunity to show otherwise... you failed...
    I guess we'll all just die wishing we knew what the fuck you were trying to say.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,332

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
    I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.

    And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?

    Why are you still posting in this thread?

    I asked you questions, you had a chance to intelligently respond and chose to dodge...

    You do understand that your dodges, non responses, and deflections from legitimate questions push people away from your supposedly heartfelt positions?
    Make your point if you have one. You obviously feel butt hurt about not getting some response you expected to something.
    still cant respond to a basic question. sad.
    So no point.

    Sad!
    The point is that you have such a lack of knowledge on the topic at hand that you cant even intelligently respond to a few basic questions, let alone expand further afterwards.

    Instead, because you are so emotionally attached to the politics and you cant back up your position using your understanding of the topic, you resort to lashing out and deflecting like a teenage girl.

    You had an opportunity to show otherwise... you failed...
    I guess we'll all just die wishing we knew what the fuck you were trying to say.
    Everyone knows what he's saying except you

    Embarrassing
    The floor is yours.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
    I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.

    And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?

    Why are you still posting in this thread?

    I asked you questions, you had a chance to intelligently respond and chose to dodge...

    You do understand that your dodges, non responses, and deflections from legitimate questions push people away from your supposedly heartfelt positions?
    Make your point if you have one. You obviously feel butt hurt about not getting some response you expected to something.
    still cant respond to a basic question. sad.
    So no point.

    Sad!
    The point is that you have such a lack of knowledge on the topic at hand that you cant even intelligently respond to a few basic questions, let alone expand further afterwards.

    Instead, because you are so emotionally attached to the politics and you cant back up your position using your understanding of the topic, you resort to lashing out and deflecting like a teenage girl.

    You had an opportunity to show otherwise... you failed...
    I guess we'll all just die wishing we knew what the fuck you were trying to say.
    just you.