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So fuck offHHusky said:
Full speed ahead then . . . for you. Most people aren't on board so you need to do the economy three times as hard.Fenderbender123 said:We shouldn't be shutting down the economy because we can't afford it. This is like great granny on her death bed and the only way to save her is to spend $400,000 on complicated medical procedures, and bankrupt your family and lose your house and everything. You know what people do when that happens? They let granny die. Because it's not worth it.
No shit!RaceBannon said:
Fuck off hack. You entire posting history on it is to advance a political causeHHusky said:
You girls are cheering for it to be political.RaceBannon said:
Fuck offHHusky said:
Ignoring personnel.MikeDamone said:HHusky said:
Statistically, mathematically and arithmetically speaking, good luck if you need healthcare in Miami or Houston today. Lots of smaller communities too.Houhusky said:
Your answer to why is the data decoupled is basically that the IFR and hospitalization ratio that drove the lockdowns in the first place was/is greatly inflated due to the disease, somehow, disproportionately infecting more susceptible people in the population and the data not being reflective of the general population...? What a self defeating argument for the lockdowns...HHusky said:
Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.Houhusky said:
Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?HHusky said:
Thank you Doctor.RaceBannon said:
Nobody says thisHHusky said:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginningPurpleThrobber said:
It's not a big deal unless you die from it.HHusky said:
SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.TurdBomber said:SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.
SD is doing just terrible!
And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.
Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?
Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
If current cases are now to be believed then you must be anti lockdown? As the data from the last two weeks indicates a IFR and hospitalization rate likely even lower than the seasonal flu?
You dodged the question on percent positive...
Focus on large raw numbers are for the statistically illiterate...
Sorry that treatable condition killed you. But you were going to die anyway. Who gives a fuck? It's just cases.
Your bullshit gets exposed daily and what do you do - spout more bullshit
But its not political
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Red states like California?incremetal_progress said:
Again deaths are going to be a lagging indicator. If the spread is mostly among younger people right now it will take longer for that to reach older, more vulnerable individuals. The idea that a second shutdown isn't coming is simply delusional. All these red states got what they wanted, a premature opening which included completely reckless and unnecessary shit like opening bars.
King County is beginning to spike a little bit, far from exponentially like Arizona and Texas, but if actions are not taken that's where it will be in a month. Closing bars and in-person dining until the unemployment insurance expires at the end of July wouldn't be a bad idea along with of course people just wearing masks. Sacrificing a little bit of freedom to prevent a crisis that would mean potentially sacrificing a lot of freedom. -
Apparently California is now MAGA CountryUW_Doog_Bot said:
Red states like California?incremetal_progress said:
Again deaths are going to be a lagging indicator. If the spread is mostly among younger people right now it will take longer for that to reach older, more vulnerable individuals. The idea that a second shutdown isn't coming is simply delusional. All these red states got what they wanted, a premature opening which included completely reckless and unnecessary shit like opening bars.
King County is beginning to spike a little bit, far from exponentially like Arizona and Texas, but if actions are not taken that's where it will be in a month. Closing bars and in-person dining until the unemployment insurance expires at the end of July wouldn't be a bad idea along with of course people just wearing masks. Sacrificing a little bit of freedom to prevent a crisis that would mean potentially sacrificing a lot of freedom. -
A lot of California is. You know that.RaceBannon said:
Apparently California is now MAGA CountryUW_Doog_Bot said:
Red states like California?incremetal_progress said:
Again deaths are going to be a lagging indicator. If the spread is mostly among younger people right now it will take longer for that to reach older, more vulnerable individuals. The idea that a second shutdown isn't coming is simply delusional. All these red states got what they wanted, a premature opening which included completely reckless and unnecessary shit like opening bars.
King County is beginning to spike a little bit, far from exponentially like Arizona and Texas, but if actions are not taken that's where it will be in a month. Closing bars and in-person dining until the unemployment insurance expires at the end of July wouldn't be a bad idea along with of course people just wearing masks. Sacrificing a little bit of freedom to prevent a crisis that would mean potentially sacrificing a lot of freedom. -
He got creamed here. You really think the coast towns are MAGA country? Whatever you need to tell yourself to keep this politicized I guessHHusky said:
A lot of California is. You know that.RaceBannon said:
Apparently California is now MAGA CountryUW_Doog_Bot said:
Red states like California?incremetal_progress said:
Again deaths are going to be a lagging indicator. If the spread is mostly among younger people right now it will take longer for that to reach older, more vulnerable individuals. The idea that a second shutdown isn't coming is simply delusional. All these red states got what they wanted, a premature opening which included completely reckless and unnecessary shit like opening bars.
King County is beginning to spike a little bit, far from exponentially like Arizona and Texas, but if actions are not taken that's where it will be in a month. Closing bars and in-person dining until the unemployment insurance expires at the end of July wouldn't be a bad idea along with of course people just wearing masks. Sacrificing a little bit of freedom to prevent a crisis that would mean potentially sacrificing a lot of freedom. -
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Sources and experts say though.RaceBannon said:
Nobody says thisHHusky said:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginningPurpleThrobber said:
It's not a big deal unless you die from it.HHusky said:
SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.TurdBomber said:SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.
SD is doing just terrible!
And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.
I remember my Kawasaki like disease phase.
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You’re rooting for it. Bigly.HHusky said:
We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.TurdBomber said:
So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.HHusky said:
Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.Houhusky said:
Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?HHusky said:
Thank you Doctor.RaceBannon said:
Nobody says thisHHusky said:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginningPurpleThrobber said:
It's not a big deal unless you die from it.HHusky said:
SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.TurdBomber said:SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.
SD is doing just terrible!
And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.
Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?
Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus. -
Ignoring the unemployment rate among nurses.HHusky said:
Ignoring personnel.MikeDamone said:HHusky said:
Statistically, mathematically and arithmetically speaking, good luck if you need healthcare in Miami or Houston today. Lots of smaller communities too.Houhusky said:
Your answer to why is the data decoupled is basically that the IFR and hospitalization ratio that drove the lockdowns in the first place was/is greatly inflated due to the disease, somehow, disproportionately infecting more susceptible people in the population and the data not being reflective of the general population...? What a self defeating argument for the lockdowns...HHusky said:
Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.Houhusky said:
Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?HHusky said:
Thank you Doctor.RaceBannon said:
Nobody says thisHHusky said:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginningPurpleThrobber said:
It's not a big deal unless you die from it.HHusky said:
SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.TurdBomber said:SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.
SD is doing just terrible!
And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.
Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?
Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
If current cases are now to be believed then you must be anti lockdown? As the data from the last two weeks indicates a IFR and hospitalization rate likely even lower than the seasonal flu?
You dodged the question on percent positive...
Focus on large raw numbers are for the statistically illiterate...
Sorry that treatable condition killed you. But you were going to die anyway. Who gives a fuck? It's just cases. -
I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.MikeDamone said:
You’re rooting for it. Bigly.HHusky said:
We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.TurdBomber said:
So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.HHusky said:
Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.Houhusky said:
Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?HHusky said:
Thank you Doctor.RaceBannon said:
Nobody says thisHHusky said:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginningPurpleThrobber said:
It's not a big deal unless you die from it.HHusky said:
SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.TurdBomber said:SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.
SD is doing just terrible!
And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.
Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?
Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?
