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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,543 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    We shouldn't be shutting down the economy because we can't afford it. This is like great granny on her death bed and the only way to save her is to spend $400,000 on complicated medical procedures, and bankrupt your family and lose your house and everything. You know what people do when that happens? They let granny die. Because it's not worth it.

    Full speed ahead then . . . for you. Most people aren't on board so you need to do the economy three times as hard.

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    Your answer to why is the data decoupled is basically that the IFR and hospitalization ratio that drove the lockdowns in the first place was/is greatly inflated due to the disease, somehow, disproportionately infecting more susceptible people in the population and the data not being reflective of the general population...? What a self defeating argument for the lockdowns...

    If current cases are now to be believed then you must be anti lockdown? As the data from the last two weeks indicates a IFR and hospitalization rate likely even lower than the seasonal flu?

    You dodged the question on percent positive...

    Focus on large raw numbers are for the statistically illiterate...
    Statistically, mathematically and arithmetically speaking, good luck if you need healthcare in Miami or Houston today. Lots of smaller communities too.

    Sorry that treatable condition killed you. But you were going to die anyway. Who gives a fuck? It's just cases.

    Ignoring personnel.
    Fuck off

    Your bullshit gets exposed daily and what do you do - spout more bullshit

    But its not political
    You girls are cheering for it to be political.

    Good luck with that.
    Fuck off hack. You entire posting history on it is to advance a political cause
    No shit!
    So fuck off
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,415 Swaye's Wigwam



    Again deaths are going to be a lagging indicator. If the spread is mostly among younger people right now it will take longer for that to reach older, more vulnerable individuals. The idea that a second shutdown isn't coming is simply delusional. All these red states got what they wanted, a premature opening which included completely reckless and unnecessary shit like opening bars.

    King County is beginning to spike a little bit, far from exponentially like Arizona and Texas, but if actions are not taken that's where it will be in a month. Closing bars and in-person dining until the unemployment insurance expires at the end of July wouldn't be a bad idea along with of course people just wearing masks. Sacrificing a little bit of freedom to prevent a crisis that would mean potentially sacrificing a lot of freedom.
    Red states like California?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,543 Founders Club



    Again deaths are going to be a lagging indicator. If the spread is mostly among younger people right now it will take longer for that to reach older, more vulnerable individuals. The idea that a second shutdown isn't coming is simply delusional. All these red states got what they wanted, a premature opening which included completely reckless and unnecessary shit like opening bars.

    King County is beginning to spike a little bit, far from exponentially like Arizona and Texas, but if actions are not taken that's where it will be in a month. Closing bars and in-person dining until the unemployment insurance expires at the end of July wouldn't be a bad idea along with of course people just wearing masks. Sacrificing a little bit of freedom to prevent a crisis that would mean potentially sacrificing a lot of freedom.
    Red states like California?
    Apparently California is now MAGA Country
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,405



    Again deaths are going to be a lagging indicator. If the spread is mostly among younger people right now it will take longer for that to reach older, more vulnerable individuals. The idea that a second shutdown isn't coming is simply delusional. All these red states got what they wanted, a premature opening which included completely reckless and unnecessary shit like opening bars.

    King County is beginning to spike a little bit, far from exponentially like Arizona and Texas, but if actions are not taken that's where it will be in a month. Closing bars and in-person dining until the unemployment insurance expires at the end of July wouldn't be a bad idea along with of course people just wearing masks. Sacrificing a little bit of freedom to prevent a crisis that would mean potentially sacrificing a lot of freedom.
    Red states like California?
    Apparently California is now MAGA Country
    A lot of California is. You know that.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,543 Founders Club
    HHusky said:



    Again deaths are going to be a lagging indicator. If the spread is mostly among younger people right now it will take longer for that to reach older, more vulnerable individuals. The idea that a second shutdown isn't coming is simply delusional. All these red states got what they wanted, a premature opening which included completely reckless and unnecessary shit like opening bars.

    King County is beginning to spike a little bit, far from exponentially like Arizona and Texas, but if actions are not taken that's where it will be in a month. Closing bars and in-person dining until the unemployment insurance expires at the end of July wouldn't be a bad idea along with of course people just wearing masks. Sacrificing a little bit of freedom to prevent a crisis that would mean potentially sacrificing a lot of freedom.
    Red states like California?
    Apparently California is now MAGA Country
    A lot of California is. You know that.
    He got creamed here. You really think the coast towns are MAGA country? Whatever you need to tell yourself to keep this politicized I guess
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Sources and experts say though.

    I remember my Kawasaki like disease phase.

  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    Your answer to why is the data decoupled is basically that the IFR and hospitalization ratio that drove the lockdowns in the first place was/is greatly inflated due to the disease, somehow, disproportionately infecting more susceptible people in the population and the data not being reflective of the general population...? What a self defeating argument for the lockdowns...

    If current cases are now to be believed then you must be anti lockdown? As the data from the last two weeks indicates a IFR and hospitalization rate likely even lower than the seasonal flu?

    You dodged the question on percent positive...

    Focus on large raw numbers are for the statistically illiterate...
    Statistically, mathematically and arithmetically speaking, good luck if you need healthcare in Miami or Houston today. Lots of smaller communities too.

    Sorry that treatable condition killed you. But you were going to die anyway. Who gives a fuck? It's just cases.

    Ignoring personnel.
    Ignoring the unemployment rate among nurses.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,405

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
    I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.

    And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?

  • HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited July 2020
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
    I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.

    And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?

    Why are you still posting in this thread?

    I asked you questions, you had a chance to intelligently respond and chose to dodge...

    You do understand that your dodges, non responses, and deflections from legitimate questions push people away from your supposedly heartfelt positions?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,405
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
    I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.

    And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?

    Why are you still posting in this thread?

    I asked you questions, you had a chance to intelligently respond and chose to dodge...

    You do understand that your dodges, non responses, and deflections from legitimate questions push people away from your supposedly heartfelt positions?
    Make your point if you have one. You obviously feel butt hurt about not getting some response you expected to something.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,596 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2020

    We shouldn't be shutting down the economy because we can't afford it. This is like great granny on her death bed and the only way to save her is to spend $400,000 on complicated medical procedures, and bankrupt your family and lose your house and everything. You know what people do when that happens? They let granny die. Because it's not worth it.

    Except - in the US, medical insurance picks up the tab and keeps Granny alive until Junior gets released from rehab. And then the cost gets shoved on to the rest of us.

    Which is what shutting down the economy is doing right now.

    We get to the same place - shutting down the economy has fucked us so Uncle Joe can stay alive a few more days and might have a shot for a grand visit from Junior in November.

    So worth it to the TDS/AARGH MEAN ORANGE MAN sufferers.


  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,405
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
    I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.

    And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?

    Why are you still posting in this thread?

    I asked you questions, you had a chance to intelligently respond and chose to dodge...

    You do understand that your dodges, non responses, and deflections from legitimate questions push people away from your supposedly heartfelt positions?
    Make your point if you have one. You obviously feel butt hurt about not getting some response you expected to something.
    still cant respond to a basic question. sad.
    So no point.

    Sad!
  • HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
    I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.

    And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?

    Why are you still posting in this thread?

    I asked you questions, you had a chance to intelligently respond and chose to dodge...

    You do understand that your dodges, non responses, and deflections from legitimate questions push people away from your supposedly heartfelt positions?
    Make your point if you have one. You obviously feel butt hurt about not getting some response you expected to something.
    still cant respond to a basic question. sad.
    So no point.

    Sad!
    The point is that you have such a lack of knowledge on the topic at hand that you cant even intelligently respond to a few basic questions, let alone expand further afterwards.

    Instead, because you are so emotionally attached to the politics and you cant back up your position using your understanding of the topic, you resort to lashing out and deflecting like a teenage girl.

    You had an opportunity to show otherwise... you failed...
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,405
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
    I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.

    And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?

    Why are you still posting in this thread?

    I asked you questions, you had a chance to intelligently respond and chose to dodge...

    You do understand that your dodges, non responses, and deflections from legitimate questions push people away from your supposedly heartfelt positions?
    Make your point if you have one. You obviously feel butt hurt about not getting some response you expected to something.
    still cant respond to a basic question. sad.
    So no point.

    Sad!
    The point is that you have such a lack of knowledge on the topic at hand that you cant even intelligently respond to a few basic questions, let alone expand further afterwards.

    Instead, because you are so emotionally attached to the politics and you cant back up your position using your understanding of the topic, you resort to lashing out and deflecting like a teenage girl.

    You had an opportunity to show otherwise... you failed...
    I guess we'll all just die wishing we knew what the fuck you were trying to say.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,405

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    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
    I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.

    And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?

    Why are you still posting in this thread?

    I asked you questions, you had a chance to intelligently respond and chose to dodge...

    You do understand that your dodges, non responses, and deflections from legitimate questions push people away from your supposedly heartfelt positions?
    Make your point if you have one. You obviously feel butt hurt about not getting some response you expected to something.
    still cant respond to a basic question. sad.
    So no point.

    Sad!
    The point is that you have such a lack of knowledge on the topic at hand that you cant even intelligently respond to a few basic questions, let alone expand further afterwards.

    Instead, because you are so emotionally attached to the politics and you cant back up your position using your understanding of the topic, you resort to lashing out and deflecting like a teenage girl.

    You had an opportunity to show otherwise... you failed...
    I guess we'll all just die wishing we knew what the fuck you were trying to say.
    Everyone knows what he's saying except you

    Embarrassing
    The floor is yours.
  • HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537
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    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    You’re rooting for it. Bigly.

    You’ll even make stuff up in your zeal for a virus.
    I am amused by your insistence on being dumb, but only as long as you are actually walking your talk--so get out there Mikey. And because I realized some time ago that you gals would sabotage an effective response to the virus, I had already given up on my vacation plans (Americans aren't going to be allowed into many places for some time) and assumed my business will be pretty spotty for awhile.

    And I do like getting to say "I told you so." But this is like watching a slow motion car wreck; no rooting, just watching the inevitable. Are you still laughing?

    Why are you still posting in this thread?

    I asked you questions, you had a chance to intelligently respond and chose to dodge...

    You do understand that your dodges, non responses, and deflections from legitimate questions push people away from your supposedly heartfelt positions?
    Make your point if you have one. You obviously feel butt hurt about not getting some response you expected to something.
    still cant respond to a basic question. sad.
    So no point.

    Sad!
    The point is that you have such a lack of knowledge on the topic at hand that you cant even intelligently respond to a few basic questions, let alone expand further afterwards.

    Instead, because you are so emotionally attached to the politics and you cant back up your position using your understanding of the topic, you resort to lashing out and deflecting like a teenage girl.

    You had an opportunity to show otherwise... you failed...
    I guess we'll all just die wishing we knew what the fuck you were trying to say.
    just you.
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