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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2020
    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    So dying is no longer important? Okay.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,332
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,332

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    So dying is no longer important? Okay.
    No. But long term/permanent disability is also important. As is consumption of finite resources.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited July 2020
    Just in time for the long weekend! May as well just permanently close them. Protesting is still OK, though.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,332
    edited July 2020

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    Oh, so it doesn't matter when or what from. Okay.
  • incremetal_progress
    incremetal_progress Member Posts: 358


    Again deaths are going to be a lagging indicator. If the spread is mostly among younger people right now it will take longer for that to reach older, more vulnerable individuals. The idea that a second shutdown isn't coming is simply delusional. All these red states got what they wanted, a premature opening which included completely reckless and unnecessary shit like opening bars.

    King County is beginning to spike a little bit, far from exponentially like Arizona and Texas, but if actions are not taken that's where it will be in a month. Closing bars and in-person dining until the unemployment insurance expires at the end of July wouldn't be a bad idea along with of course people just wearing masks. Sacrificing a little bit of freedom to prevent a crisis that would mean potentially sacrificing a lot of freedom.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,332

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SD = 1% death rate among active cases. Washington's is 4%.
    SD = 800 active cases. Washington's has 21.7k.

    SD is doing just terrible!

    SD has a much higher rate of infection than Washington. I love how you gals define this as no big deal unless you die from it. That’s not reality.
    It's not a big deal unless you die from it.

    And, preemptively, like we say, Fuck Off.



    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/survivors-severe-covid-19-beating-virus-just-beginning
    Nobody says this
    Thank you Doctor.
    Can you take a breathe for a second and explain in your own words why you think cases have completely decoupled from both previously understood hospitalization and death ratios?

    Does the reported percent positive antigen testing accurately reflect current infection rates in the general population? If so, and given that states like Florida are now reporting 12-20% positive in their testing, what does that likely reflect as the percent CURRENTLY infected in the general population of the state. Surely you aren’t suggesting 12-20% of Florida residents are sick/infected with covid, right now?

    Don’t you think it’s likely, with both the decoupling of previously understood ratios AND an impossibly high percent positive test rate that there is some sort of selection bias occurring in the raw data?
    Less susceptible populations are getting more of the cases and testing has improved.

    If your death/disability from infection rate decreases but your total cases explode, you're still going to have huge death/disability numbers.
    So you're still rooting for the virus is what you're saying. Okay.
    We're all going to die someday too. Acknowledging that reality doesn't mean I'm rooting for it.
    Oh, so it doesn't matter when or what from. Okay.
    Well it matters to me, and I thought Gallipoli was kind of a sad movie. Apparently you are using it as a model for your covid response.