RIP Civil War
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Why do people even think it has anything to do with the American Civil war? A civil war is basically a war between citizens of the same country/state?
This decision is both arrogant and ignorant -
You’re late to 2020?MikeDamone said:Why do people even think it has anything to do with the American Civil war? A civil war is basically a war between citizens of the same country/state?
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Everyday is a new low. Next thing someone will have to apologize for using the word “niggardly”.. oh wait, that’s happened alreadyNorthwestFresh said:
You’re late to 2020?MikeDamone said:Why do people even think it has anything to do with the American Civil war? A civil war is basically a war between citizens of the same country/state?
This decision is both arrogant and ignorant -
I'm a niggard.MikeDamone said:
Everyday is a new low. Next thing someone will have to apologize fro using the word “niggardly”.. oh wait, that’s happened alreadyNorthwestFresh said:
You’re late to 2020?MikeDamone said:Why do people even think it has anything to do with the American Civil war? A civil war is basically a war between citizens of the same country/state?
This decision is both arrogant and ignorant -
HHusky said:
I'm aMikeDamone said:
Everyday is a new low. Next thing someone will have to apologize fro using the word “niggardly”.. oh wait, that’s happened alreadyNorthwestFresh said:
You’re late to 2020?MikeDamone said:Why do people even think it has anything to do with the American Civil war? A civil war is basically a war between citizens of the same country/state?
This decision is both arrogant and ignorantniggarddullard! Learn to spell. -
I never once thought of the American Civil War when this game was being referred to. Seriously, who is this for?MikeDamone said:Why do people even think it has anything to do with the American Civil war? A civil war is basically a war between citizens of the same country/state?
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How does any statue of MLK survive? There is no doubt that he didn't support gay marriage.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:That's what happens when you allow them an inch. They take 500 miles.
The Confederate statues might be racist, distasteful etc., but now Lincoln, Warshington, and Teddy is gone, Grant is gone, and in six months it'll be LBJ. Stop appeasing the woke faggots. They won't stop. -
You sure come quick.Sledog said:HHusky said:
I'm aMikeDamone said:
Everyday is a new low. Next thing someone will have to apologize fro using the word “niggardly”.. oh wait, that’s happened alreadyNorthwestFresh said:
You’re late to 2020?MikeDamone said:Why do people even think it has anything to do with the American Civil war? A civil war is basically a war between citizens of the same country/state?
This decision is both arrogant and ignorantniggarddullard! Learn to spell.
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Cancel the Bosnian Civil War
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Or could have just purchased the slaves and freed them without killing hundreds of thousands and forcing incompatible cultures to coexist in the same region.GreenRiverGatorz said:
When they came for the Robert E. Lee statues I said nothing. Because he was technically a traitor and a loser, so fuck him.dnc said:It wasn't a war fought to perpetuate slavery, it was a war fought to free the fucking slaves. Which it did, incidentally.
The Civil War has a much better racial connotation than say, the name Oregon or Oregon State.
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But this is just pants-on-head silly. The Civil War ushered in the single greatest piece of human rights advancement this country has seen. Are we no longer celebrating that? -
Seriously? I don't get the joke, if it is one.SpoonieLuv said:
Or could have just purchased the slaves and freed them without killing hundreds of thousands and forcing incompatible cultures to coexist in the same region.GreenRiverGatorz said:
When they came for the Robert E. Lee statues I said nothing. Because he was technically a traitor and a loser, so fuck him.dnc said:It wasn't a war fought to perpetuate slavery, it was a war fought to free the fucking slaves. Which it did, incidentally.
The Civil War has a much better racial connotation than say, the name Oregon or Oregon State.
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But this is just pants-on-head silly. The Civil War ushered in the single greatest piece of human rights advancement this country has seen. Are we no longer celebrating that? -
And the 1860s war was not actually a “civil” war but rather one of revolution. Civil wars are fought to take control of the established government control of a territory. This was succession to establish a new political system in a defined geographical area.
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It was the put down of an insurrection.
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Calling it the civil war will remind everyone that it was democrats that were slavers and fought freeing them. That's why all of this is being erased. It's all about the dems hiding their past and present.
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Was there a time before your pot cracked?Sledog said:Calling it the civil war will remind everyone that it was democrats that were slavers and fought freeing them. That's why all of this is being erased. It's all about the dems hiding their past and present.
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Not really. It was a Civilian War directly because some citizens were trying to leave and create their own State of Jefferson instead of staying in the Cascade Cabal. I think.SpoonieLuv said:And the 1860s war was not actually a “civil” war but rather one of revolution. Civil wars are fought to take control of the established government control of a territory. This was succession to establish a new political system in a defined geographical area.
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Dem lefty heard from. Only response is name calling.HHusky said:
Was there a time before your pot cracked?Sledog said:Calling it the civil war will remind everyone that it was democrats that were slavers and fought freeing them. That's why all of this is being erased. It's all about the dems hiding their past and present.
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Seriously? I don't get the joke, if it is one.HHusky said:
Was there a time before your pot cracked?Sledog said:Calling it the civil war will remind everyone that it was democrats that were slavers and fought freeing them. That's why all of this is being erased. It's all about the dems hiding their past and present.
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Don't blame me. I told you to take the plea.Sledog said:
Dem lefty heard from. Only response is name calling.HHusky said:
Was there a time before your pot cracked?Sledog said:Calling it the civil war will remind everyone that it was democrats that were slavers and fought freeing them. That's why all of this is being erased. It's all about the dems hiding their past and present.
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Not a joke, did Great Britain not end slavery in a similar manner avoiding an obviously generationally divisive war? I’m certain there are nuances to the differences between the US situation and theirs however an all out war was probably the worst possible solution to the problem of slavery in North America.
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The issue was not that buying the slaves' freedom never occurred to anyone.SpoonieLuv said:Not a joke, did Great Britain not end slavery in a similar manner avoiding an obviously generationally divisive war? I’m certain there are nuances to the differences between the US situation and theirs however an all out war was probably the worst possible solution to the problem of slavery in North America.
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Yes, bring the former slaves to the north where there would have a been a far easier transition to normalcy given social milieu of the time.HHusky said:
The issue was not that buying the slaves' freedom never occurred to anyone.SpoonieLuv said:Not a joke, did Great Britain not end slavery in a similar manner avoiding an obviously generationally divisive war? I’m certain there are nuances to the differences between the US situation and theirs however an all out war was probably the worst possible solution to the problem of slavery in North America.
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He whiffed on a dead Van Hagar joke. It was sad!.
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Uhhhhhh, no. Have you read any mid-19th Century US History?SpoonieLuv said:
Yes, bring the former slaves to the north where there would have a been a far easier transition to normalcy given social milieu of the time.HHusky said:
The issue was not that buying the slaves' freedom never occurred to anyone.SpoonieLuv said:Not a joke, did Great Britain not end slavery in a similar manner avoiding an obviously generationally divisive war? I’m certain there are nuances to the differences between the US situation and theirs however an all out war was probably the worst possible solution to the problem of slavery in North America.
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Way more than nuanced. The vast majority of slaves were not stationed on the British isles. But in colonies. Also, African slaves are only a slice of Great Britain’s slave history.SpoonieLuv said:Not a joke, did Great Britain not end slavery in a similar manner avoiding an obviously generationally divisive war? I’m certain there are nuances to the differences between the US situation and theirs however an all out war was probably the worst possible solution to the problem of slavery in North America.
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https://oregonencyclopedia.org/articles/exclusion_laws/#.XvZX6G5Fw0QSpoonieLuv said:
Yes, bring the former slaves to the north where there would have a been a far easier transition to normalcy given social milieu of the time.HHusky said:
The issue was not that buying the slaves' freedom never occurred to anyone.SpoonieLuv said:Not a joke, did Great Britain not end slavery in a similar manner avoiding an obviously generationally divisive war? I’m certain there are nuances to the differences between the US situation and theirs however an all out war was probably the worst possible solution to the problem of slavery in North America.
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Apples and oranges.HHusky said:
https://oregonencyclopedia.org/articles/exclusion_laws/#.XvZX6G5Fw0QSpoonieLuv said:
Yes, bring the former slaves to the north where there would have a been a far easier transition to normalcy given social milieu of the time.HHusky said:
The issue was not that buying the slaves' freedom never occurred to anyone.SpoonieLuv said:Not a joke, did Great Britain not end slavery in a similar manner avoiding an obviously generationally divisive war? I’m certain there are nuances to the differences between the US situation and theirs however an all out war was probably the worst possible solution to the problem of slavery in North America.
And "forcing incompatible cultures to coexist in the same region"?
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This is a great start, Hopefully UW examines is problematic iconography more too!
Purple should be eliminated as an acceptable representative color;
It was the color of European imperialistic Roman royalty (mostly White people) that participated in the subjugation and enslavement of millions of people around the modern world at the time. It promotes the ideology of the ruling class both as an ethno-centric state and classist rigid hierarchy so much so that even Queen Elizabeth the first (yet another white) outlawed anyone of her royal family from wearing purple during her rule.
This is enough of a problematic past, the color shouldnt be celebrated or cheered, it should be a reminder of the grim history of whites.
makes me sick
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The unpopularity of my position is not lost on me yet it is not devoid of serious scholarship on the issue. It stems from the evaluation of using a ground war to solve societal differences which have sewn the seeds of the turmoil which exists at present. It's not unreasonable to question whether Lincoln's war was the correct action to eliminate the obviously odious institution of slavery and its strong foothold in the southern (albeit it plantation owners were a very small minority of the southern population - not excusing it but it is not factual the a substantial number of them were slave-owners regardless of whether it was a supported position) institutions. A war on such scale should have been the last resort for the elimination of state approved slavery and the fact that the majority of all other countries ended slavery without a bloody conflict on this scale should be the only proof necessary to make one skeptical.
