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Having just been reminded of how badly the ATF fucked this up in Waco

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  • WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    black eye for the ATF imo
  • WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    Imagine how the NOAA fishery officers are feeling right now
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    It's fucking terrifying that we have an acting DEA head who is actively trying to get involved in a situation that is so far removed from his agency's jurisdiction and purpose. Shea can get fucked.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter
    You start digging into it and it’s staggering how many armed federal law enforcement departments.
  • WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804

    It's fucking terrifying that we have an acting DEA head who is actively trying to get involved in a situation that is so far removed from his agency's jurisdiction and purpose. Shea can get fucked.

    The authorization for “covert surveillance” is special, but shout out to Swaye they specifically say they can share it with Tribal authorities!
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,752 Standard Supporter

    You start digging into it and it’s staggering how many armed federal law enforcement departments.

    The Throbber already did that once and posted the data. Thinking it was to refute Typhus Boy (RIP @CirrhosisDawg's) claim the Feds couldn't roll into Cali. Several hundred thousand or some such thing. Maybe not that big - but it was impressive how many forest rangers and ag inspectors have guns.

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,486 Founders Club
    17 intelligence agencies and I are chuckling


    Nowhere to cut spending. Nope wouldn't be prudent
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,486 Founders Club

    You start digging into it and it’s staggering how many armed federal law enforcement departments.

    The Throbber already did that once and posted the data. Thinking it was to refute Typhus Boy (RIP @CirrhosisDawg's) claim the Feds couldn't roll into Cali. Several hundred thousand or some such thing. Maybe not that big - but it was impressive how many forest rangers and ag inspectors have guns.

    I thought of Cirrhosis when I was watching a show on Grant and at the start of the war the south thought they'd just keep the federal installations

    Abe said as we like to say, no

    There's enough federal armaments in California to fight a war.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,752 Standard Supporter

    It's fucking terrifying that we have an acting DEA head who is actively trying to get involved in a situation that is so far removed from his agency's jurisdiction and purpose. Shea can get fucked.

    Maybe if some fuckwad leftist governors and mayors would denounce Antifa and enforce looting and vandalism and arson laws, it wouldn't come to this.

    Or are you and #teamburncities to the ground, too, like the Dazzler?

  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,752 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2020

    You start digging into it and it’s staggering how many armed federal law enforcement departments.

    The Throbber already did that once and posted the data. Thinking it was to refute Typhus Boy (RIP @CirrhosisDawg's) claim the Feds couldn't roll into Cali. Several hundred thousand or some such thing. Maybe not that big - but it was impressive how many forest rangers and ag inspectors have guns.

    I thought of Cirrhosis when I was watching a show on Grant and at the start of the war the south thought they'd just keep the federal installations

    Abe said as we like to say, no

    There's enough federal armaments in California to fight a war.
    Fight?

    You saw what happened in Coeur d'Alene last night. The skinny jeans molotov cocktail throwers would turn tail and run back to mommy's basement.

    There'll be no fight.

  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,400 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2020

    It's fucking terrifying that we have an acting DEA head who is actively trying to get involved in a situation that is so far removed from his agency's jurisdiction and purpose. Shea can get fucked.

    Maybe if some fuckwad leftist governors and mayors would denounce Antifa and enforce looting and vandalism and arson laws, it wouldn't come to this.

    Or are you and #teamburncities to the ground, too, like the Dazzler?

    The other problem is the lefty states implemented no bail policies so for rioting, theft and vandalism etc they are simply cited out and they are back on the streets looting again
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,752 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    It's fucking terrifying that we have an acting DEA head who is actively trying to get involved in a situation that is so far removed from his agency's jurisdiction and purpose. Shea can get fucked.

    Maybe if some fuckwad leftist governors and mayors would denounce Antifa and enforce looting and vandalism and arson laws, it wouldn't come to this.

    Or are you and #teamburncities to the ground, too, like the Dazzler?

    The other problem is the lefty states implemented no bail policies so for rioting, theft and vandalism etc they are simply cited out and they are back on the streets looting again
    In the State of Washington, the governor turned them loose.

    Remember the COVID scare from last week? The second wave?

    Apparently one of the state Regional Health District chiefs did too.

    https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/jun/01/public-officials-decry-racism-as-public-health-thr/

  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,068

    Bureaucrats hate been left out of the game. IRS has to be pissed too.

    They were having such a grand old time with covid.

    And then got the shocked Pikachu face when people don't care about them
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,913 Founders Club

    17 intelligence agencies and I are chuckling


    Nowhere to cut spending. Nope wouldn't be prudent

    Remember, all of them agreed Trump colluded with Russians.
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    It's fucking terrifying that we have an acting DEA head who is actively trying to get involved in a situation that is so far removed from his agency's jurisdiction and purpose. Shea can get fucked.

    Maybe if some fuckwad leftist governors and mayors would denounce Antifa and enforce looting and vandalism and arson laws, it wouldn't come to this.

    Or are you and #teamburncities to the ground, too, like the Dazzler?

    I don't care if Inslee and Durkin themselves are leading a Mad Max homeless RV brigade down 3rd Ave throwing molotovs at every cop car they see. There are about 20 other law enforcement levers to pull before you get the fucking DEA involved.

    I'll jot you down for #teampolicestate
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,752 Standard Supporter

    It's fucking terrifying that we have an acting DEA head who is actively trying to get involved in a situation that is so far removed from his agency's jurisdiction and purpose. Shea can get fucked.

    Maybe if some fuckwad leftist governors and mayors would denounce Antifa and enforce looting and vandalism and arson laws, it wouldn't come to this.

    Or are you and #teamburncities to the ground, too, like the Dazzler?

    I don't care if Inslee and Durkin themselves are leading a Mad Max homeless RV brigade down 3rd Ave throwing molotovs at every cop car they see. There are about 20 other law enforcement levers to pull before you get the fucking DEA involved.

    I'll jot you down for #teampolicestate



    No, dickhead.

    I'm for #teamdotherightthing and if that includes rolling out anything and everything available to squash the anarchists, so be it.

    YOUR MadMax statement tells me everything I need to know about your 'concern' for anything other than hanging on to an acute case of TDS.

  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    It's fucking terrifying that we have an acting DEA head who is actively trying to get involved in a situation that is so far removed from his agency's jurisdiction and purpose. Shea can get fucked.

    Maybe if some fuckwad leftist governors and mayors would denounce Antifa and enforce looting and vandalism and arson laws, it wouldn't come to this.

    Or are you and #teamburncities to the ground, too, like the Dazzler?

    I don't care if Inslee and Durkin themselves are leading a Mad Max homeless RV brigade down 3rd Ave throwing molotovs at every cop car they see. There are about 20 other law enforcement levers to pull before you get the fucking DEA involved.

    I'll jot you down for #teampolicestate



    No, dickhead.

    I'm for #teamdotherightthing and if that includes rolling out anything and everything available to squash the anarchists, so be it.

    YOUR MadMax statement tells me everything I need to know about your 'concern' for anything other than hanging on to an acute case of TDS.

    So you want to pull out any and all federal law enforcement big guns to squash any sort of domestic squabble. Got it.

    I'm a little more cautious in my preferred approach. There are plenty of federal law enforcement agencies that can handle this. If the feds decide that a few states aren't handling this on their own, and the National Guard isn't properly being dispensed by governors, then go ahead and call in the FBI. You know, the ones who are actually tasked with enforcing domestic terrorism.

    But bring in the DEA and set further precedent that the federal government is willing to activate any and all law enforcement, regardless of that agency's purview? Fuck no.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,801

    It's fucking terrifying that we have an acting DEA head who is actively trying to get involved in a situation that is so far removed from his agency's jurisdiction and purpose. Shea can get fucked.

    Maybe if some fuckwad leftist governors and mayors would denounce Antifa and enforce looting and vandalism and arson laws, it wouldn't come to this.

    Or are you and #teamburncities to the ground, too, like the Dazzler?

    I don't care if Inslee and Durkin themselves are leading a Mad Max homeless RV brigade down 3rd Ave throwing molotovs at every cop car they see. There are about 20 other law enforcement levers to pull before you get the fucking DEA involved.

    I'll jot you down for #teampolicestate



    No, dickhead.

    I'm for #teamdotherightthing and if that includes rolling out anything and everything available to squash the anarchists, so be it.

    YOUR MadMax statement tells me everything I need to know about your 'concern' for anything other than hanging on to an acute case of TDS.

    So you want to pull out any and all federal law enforcement big guns to squash any sort of domestic squabble. Got it.

    I'm a little more cautious in my preferred approach. There are plenty of federal law enforcement agencies that can handle this. If the feds decide that a few states aren't handling this on their own, and the National Guard isn't properly being dispensed by governors, then go ahead and call in the FBI. You know, the ones who are actually tasked with enforcing domestic terrorism.

    But bring in the DEA and set further precedent that the federal government is willing to activate any and all law enforcement, regardless of that agency's purview? Fuck no.
    I stand with RidgewayDwag
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