Suck it, youngsters.

PurpleThrobber · May 2020

Doogles said:
Half the hall of famers from the 80s would be G League busts today

Child, please.

You millies act like Dominique and the rest wouldn't benefit from today's training and nutrition techniques.

PandaOrangeChiknDuck · May 2020

PurpleThrobber said:

Doogles said:
Half the hall of famers from the 80s would be G League busts today
Child, please.

You millies act like Dominique and the rest wouldn't benefit from today's training and nutrition techniques.

Let us not forget that breathing on a ball handler now draws a foul.

BleachedAnusDawg · May 2020

Doogles said:
Half the hall of famers from the 80s would be G League busts today

Please point out the would-be busts from the above list.

Fenderbender123 · May 2020

I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

ThomasFremont · May 2020

Fenderbender123 said:
I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

Then watch now.

It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?

RoadDawg55 · May 2020

PandaOrangeChiknDuck said:

Doogles said:
Half the hall of famers from the 80s would be G League busts today
With today's rules, I'll give you that argument. However, if they used the same rules they had in the 80's today, half the current all-stars would puss themselves out of the league. The players today are physically more gifted, but are far more mentally weak. The NBA has never been more soft than it is today.

Today’s guys would be firing wide open three’s. A good player is a good player tho. It’s not really fair to compare eras. It’s like when people use completion percentage today to compare a QB to the 80’s. It’s not even close to the same thing.

Doogles · May 2020

ThomasFremont said:

Fenderbender123 said:
I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.
That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

Then watch now.

It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?

THIS.

I watched a finals game rerun of the Celtics Lakers early 80s and I was astonished at the lack of skill. They can't dribble. Just can't. It's really not the athleticism, which we know who wins there, it's the skill level and lack of creativity.

A perfect test of this is our favorite guy to discuss, Pistol Pete. He's the one guy who actually looks like he has a clue with the basketball and has a more modern look to his game. What does he do? Absolutely shreds the league.

The level of play is objectively dog shit.

80s is like playing regular Nintendo, you respect it's first and the future was built from the foundation, but turn on 2k20 on PS4 and get fucked

PurpleThrobber · May 2020

ThomasFremont said:

Fenderbender123 said:
I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.
That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

Then watch now.

It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?

ThomasFremont said:

Fenderbender123 said:
I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.
That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

Then watch now.

It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?