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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Posts: 21,959
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    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?








    Pot stirring. Or you're flat ass blind..


    Most likely abundance.

    Magic dribbled the ball like a 6th grade white kid playing an inner city team for the first time.

    Now you're just being retarded.

    Or rather, you're still retarded.

    welcome back.

  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Posts: 2,719
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    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?








    Pot stirring. Or you're flat ass blind..


    Most likely abundance.

    Magic dribbled the ball like a 6th grade white kid playing an inner city team for the first time.

    When was the last time you've seen a carry called in an NBA game?
    Homie refused to go left.

    Turned his back to pressure.

    dribbled with his inside hand etc.
    And yet in 1991 took his team to the NBA finals. Funny thing about that series is I remember actually watching it when it was played. Magic revolutionized how the point position was played and who could play it. If you can't recognize that and how great he was you should find another sport to talk about. You would be laughed out of the room by any NBA player with this take you're pushing. Big belly laughs.
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Posts: 2,719
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    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?








    Pot stirring. Or you're flat ass blind..


    Most likely abundance.

    Magic dribbled the ball like a 6th grade white kid playing an inner city team for the first time.

    When was the last time you've seen a carry called in an NBA game?
    Homie refused to go left.

    Turned his back to pressure.

    dribbled with his inside hand etc.
    And yet in 1991 took his team to the NBA finals during the Jordan era. Funny thing about that series is I remember actually watching it when it was played. Magic revolutionized how the point position was played and who could play it. If you can't recognize that and how great he was you should find another sport to talk about. You would be laughed out of the room by any NBA player with this take you're pushing. Big belly laughs.
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Posts: 2,719
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    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    LeBron would have quit attacking after a couple shots from Salley, Laimbeer, and Rodman (unlike Jordan). I like LeBron, but he is a pussy.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Posts: 13,304
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    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    LeBron would have quit attacking after a couple shots from Salley, Laimbeer, and Rodman (unlike Jordan). I like LeBron, but he is a pussy.
    The Pistons were able to physically intimidate pre-weight training MJ.

    LeBron was a bigger and stronger athlete out of HS than MJ ever was.

    Laimbeer would get his face smashed in by LeBron. Jordan is the pussy for letting it happen to him.
    backthepackDoogles
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Posts: 2,719
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    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    LeBron would have quit attacking after a couple shots from Salley, Laimbeer, and Rodman (unlike Jordan). I like LeBron, but he is a pussy.
    The Pistons were able to physically intimidate pre-weight training MJ.

    LeBron was a bigger and stronger athlete out of HS than MJ ever was.

    Laimbeer would get his face smashed in by LeBron. Jordan is the pussy for letting it happen to him.
    LeBron is a mental midget. He would back down and you know it.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Posts: 13,304
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    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    LeBron would have quit attacking after a couple shots from Salley, Laimbeer, and Rodman (unlike Jordan). I like LeBron, but he is a pussy.
    The Pistons were able to physically intimidate pre-weight training MJ.

    LeBron was a bigger and stronger athlete out of HS than MJ ever was.

    Laimbeer would get his face smashed in by LeBron. Jordan is the pussy for letting it happen to him.
    LeBron is a mental midget. He would back down and you know it.
    Bullshit. Jordan got stronger, and suddenly the Bad Boys shit didn’t work so great. LeBron was already bigger and stronger than MJ.

    Stop pretending this is some intangible mental fortitude argument. It’s not.

    And if it was, then MJ is the mental weakling for coasting on his talent in HS, college and the early years of his NBA career instead of working hard to keep his body in peak physical condition. If a player refused to lift weights in any sport nowadays we’d call them a lazy piece of shit.
    backthepack
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Posts: 2,719
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    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    LeBron would have quit attacking after a couple shots from Salley, Laimbeer, and Rodman (unlike Jordan). I like LeBron, but he is a pussy.
    The Pistons were able to physically intimidate pre-weight training MJ.

    LeBron was a bigger and stronger athlete out of HS than MJ ever was.

    Laimbeer would get his face smashed in by LeBron. Jordan is the pussy for letting it happen to him.
    LeBron is a mental midget. He would back down and you know it.
    Bullshit. Jordan got stronger, and suddenly the Bad Boys shit didn’t work so great. LeBron was already bigger and stronger than MJ.

    Stop pretending this is some intangible mental fortitude argument. It’s not.

    And if it was, then MJ is the mental weakling for coasting on his talent in HS, college and the early years of his NBA career instead of working hard to keep his body in peak physical condition. If a player refused to lift weights in any sport nowadays we’d call them a lazy piece of shit.
    Basketball players never lifted weights when he was coming up. Especially in-season.

    And it is about mental fortitude. LeBron does not have it. He is a generational talent, top-5 all-time. He is not the goat.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Posts: 58,600
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    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    LeBron would have quit attacking after a couple shots from Salley, Laimbeer, and Rodman (unlike Jordan). I like LeBron, but he is a pussy.
    The Pistons were able to physically intimidate pre-weight training MJ.

    LeBron was a bigger and stronger athlete out of HS than MJ ever was.

    Laimbeer would get his face smashed in by LeBron. Jordan is the pussy for letting it happen to him.
    LeBron is a mental midget. He would back down and you know it.
    Bullshit. Jordan got stronger, and suddenly the Bad Boys shit didn’t work so great. LeBron was already bigger and stronger than MJ.

    Stop pretending this is some intangible mental fortitude argument. It’s not.

    And if it was, then MJ is the mental weakling for coasting on his talent in HS, college and the early years of his NBA career instead of working hard to keep his body in peak physical condition. If a player refused to lift weights in any sport nowadays we’d call them a lazy piece of shit.
    Basketball players never lifted weights when he was coming up. Especially in-season.

    And it is about mental fortitude. LeBron does not have it. He is a generational talent, top-5 all-time. He is not the goat.
    James has it

    Ask the Warriors
    ThomasFremontbackthepackGladstone
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Posts: 13,304
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    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    LeBron would have quit attacking after a couple shots from Salley, Laimbeer, and Rodman (unlike Jordan). I like LeBron, but he is a pussy.
    The Pistons were able to physically intimidate pre-weight training MJ.

    LeBron was a bigger and stronger athlete out of HS than MJ ever was.

    Laimbeer would get his face smashed in by LeBron. Jordan is the pussy for letting it happen to him.
    LeBron is a mental midget. He would back down and you know it.
    Bullshit. Jordan got stronger, and suddenly the Bad Boys shit didn’t work so great. LeBron was already bigger and stronger than MJ.

    Stop pretending this is some intangible mental fortitude argument. It’s not.

    And if it was, then MJ is the mental weakling for coasting on his talent in HS, college and the early years of his NBA career instead of working hard to keep his body in peak physical condition. If a player refused to lift weights in any sport nowadays we’d call them a lazy piece of shit.
    Basketball players never lifted weights when he was coming up. Especially in-season.

    And it is about mental fortitude. LeBron does not have it. He is a generational talent, top-5 all-time. He is not the goat.
    James has it

    Ask the Warriors
    THIS
    RaceBannon
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Posts: 58,600
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    And Lebron is the only one to best Tim Duncan in a Final
    backthepack
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Posts: 21,959
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    And Lebron Ray Ray is the only one to best Tim Duncan in a Final

    BleachedAnusDawgCFetters_Nacho_Lover
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Posts: 2,719
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    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    LeBron would have quit attacking after a couple shots from Salley, Laimbeer, and Rodman (unlike Jordan). I like LeBron, but he is a pussy.
    The Pistons were able to physically intimidate pre-weight training MJ.

    LeBron was a bigger and stronger athlete out of HS than MJ ever was.

    Laimbeer would get his face smashed in by LeBron. Jordan is the pussy for letting it happen to him.
    LeBron is a mental midget. He would back down and you know it.
    Bullshit. Jordan got stronger, and suddenly the Bad Boys shit didn’t work so great. LeBron was already bigger and stronger than MJ.

    Stop pretending this is some intangible mental fortitude argument. It’s not.

    And if it was, then MJ is the mental weakling for coasting on his talent in HS, college and the early years of his NBA career instead of working hard to keep his body in peak physical condition. If a player refused to lift weights in any sport nowadays we’d call them a lazy piece of shit.
    Basketball players never lifted weights when he was coming up. Especially in-season.

    And it is about mental fortitude. LeBron does not have it. He is a generational talent, top-5 all-time. He is not the goat.
    James has it

    Ask the Warriors
    Let's be real about that series. Draymond lost it for GS.
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Posts: 2,719
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    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    LeBron would have quit attacking after a couple shots from Salley, Laimbeer, and Rodman (unlike Jordan). I like LeBron, but he is a pussy.
    The Pistons were able to physically intimidate pre-weight training MJ.

    LeBron was a bigger and stronger athlete out of HS than MJ ever was.

    Laimbeer would get his face smashed in by LeBron. Jordan is the pussy for letting it happen to him.
    LeBron is a mental midget. He would back down and you know it.
    Bullshit. Jordan got stronger, and suddenly the Bad Boys shit didn’t work so great. LeBron was already bigger and stronger than MJ.

    Stop pretending this is some intangible mental fortitude argument. It’s not.

    And if it was, then MJ is the mental weakling for coasting on his talent in HS, college and the early years of his NBA career instead of working hard to keep his body in peak physical condition. If a player refused to lift weights in any sport nowadays we’d call them a lazy piece of shit.
    Basketball players never lifted weights when he was coming up. Especially in-season.

    And it is about mental fortitude. LeBron does not have it. He is a generational talent, top-5 all-time. He is not the goat.
    James has it

    Ask the Warriors
    Also disappeared against Orlando, blew donkey dick against the Mavs with a superteam, etc.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Posts: 25,655
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    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    LeBron would have quit attacking after a couple shots from Salley, Laimbeer, and Rodman (unlike Jordan). I like LeBron, but he is a pussy.
    He’s somewhat mentally soft. He still would dominate in any era. He would be way too big and fast for anyone back then. He also would still have an elite IQ.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Posts: 25,655
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    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    LeBron would have quit attacking after a couple shots from Salley, Laimbeer, and Rodman (unlike Jordan). I like LeBron, but he is a pussy.
    The Pistons were able to physically intimidate pre-weight training MJ.

    LeBron was a bigger and stronger athlete out of HS than MJ ever was.

    Laimbeer would get his face smashed in by LeBron. Jordan is the pussy for letting it happen to him.
    LeBron is a mental midget. He would back down and you know it.
    Bullshit. Jordan got stronger, and suddenly the Bad Boys shit didn’t work so great. LeBron was already bigger and stronger than MJ.

    Stop pretending this is some intangible mental fortitude argument. It’s not.

    And if it was, then MJ is the mental weakling for coasting on his talent in HS, college and the early years of his NBA career instead of working hard to keep his body in peak physical condition. If a player refused to lift weights in any sport nowadays we’d call them a lazy piece of shit.
    Basketball players never lifted weights when he was coming up. Especially in-season.

    And it is about mental fortitude. LeBron does not have it. He is a generational talent, top-5 all-time. He is not the goat.
    James has it

    Ask the Warriors
    Also disappeared against Orlando, blew donkey dick against the Mavs with a superteam, etc.
    He averaged 38 in the series against Orlando.

    https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2009-nba-eastern-conference-finals-magic-vs-cavaliers.html
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  • dncdnc Posts: 46,444
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    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?








    Pot stirring. Or you're flat ass blind..


    Most likely abundance.

    Magic dribbled the ball like a 6th grade white kid playing an inner city team for the first time.

    When was the last time you've seen a carry called in an NBA game?
    Homie refused to go left.

    Turned his back to pressure.

    dribbled with his inside hand etc.
    You've seen like 30 seconds of Magic Johnson tape
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    Ben Simmons would be a shit shooter in any era


    More random thoughts

    From 07 to 11 America wanted Kobe V Lebron in the Finals. So close

    07 the Cavs are in but the Spurs win the west

    08, 09, and 10 the Lakers win the West but the Celtics, Magic, and Celtics win the East

    11 - Lebron and Miami win the east. Dallas knocks out the defending champion Lakers and goes to the Finals

    And the Laker window shut
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    Fugazy mofo'ers always talk about shoving something up one's ass.

    The lowest selected NBA Lottery pick will bank just over 10 million before taxes at the very least in their 1st 3 seasons with the 4th season being a team option. Add in any endorsement money and a person can be set for life and live very comfortably off of their 1st contract if they invest it wisely and don't over spend. A player can make more money from endorsements than from playing on a NBA rookie contract.

    Recognize game...
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