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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Make all the excuses you want, the tape don’t lie.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,590 Standard Supporter
    RoadDawg55 said:

    The NBA in the 80’s was like a really good YMCA run with a lot of big guys. Beers, blow, and hookers after the game.

    Which is why it is astounding HH guys can't respect the game.

    Hookers, blow, full blown AIDS, trash talking, fights.....WTF more do you want?

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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,590 Standard Supporter
    ThomasFremont said:

    Make all the excuses you want, the tape don’t lie.

    You mean the videos you didnt watch dispelling your notion the 80's guys 'literally can't pass or dribble'?

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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    PurpleThrobber said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    Make all the excuses you want, the tape don’t lie.

    You mean the videos you didnt watch dispelling your notion the 80's guys 'literally can't pass or dribble'?

    Did we watch the same videos???

    And I never said they couldn’t pass. I said they couldn’t shoot. And they definitely can’t dribble. Your boy Pistol was such a standout by comparison for a reason.

    Cmon man...it’s not an indictment on you personally. It’s just the evolution of the game/skills/etc. Happens everywhere.

    Can you imagine Babe Ruth having to hit against modern pitchers?
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  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,942
    PurpleThrobber said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    Fenderbender123 said:

    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    ThomasFremont said:

    Fenderbender123 said:

    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbLVKdDotDU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CExjzyTRxnQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAPu4nLzDbQ

    Pot stirring. Or you're flat ass blind..


    Most likely abundance.

    Magic dribbled the ball like a 6th grade white kid playing an inner city team for the first time.

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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,758 Standard Supporter
    backthepack said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    Fenderbender123 said:

    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    ThomasFremont said:

    Fenderbender123 said:

    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbLVKdDotDU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CExjzyTRxnQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAPu4nLzDbQ

    Pot stirring. Or you're flat ass blind..


    Most likely abundance.

    Magic dribbled the ball like a 6th grade white kid playing an inner city team for the first time.

    When was the last time you've seen a carry called in an NBA game?
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  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,942
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    backthepack said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    Fenderbender123 said:

    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    ThomasFremont said:

    Fenderbender123 said:

    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.

    Then watch now.

    It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).

    Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.

    Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.

    But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbLVKdDotDU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CExjzyTRxnQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAPu4nLzDbQ

    Pot stirring. Or you're flat ass blind..


    Most likely abundance.

    Magic dribbled the ball like a 6th grade white kid playing an inner city team for the first time.

    When was the last time you've seen a carry called in an NBA game?
    Homie refused to go left.

    Turned his back to pressure.

    dribbled with his inside hand etc.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,851 Founders Club
    Fenderbender123 said:

    I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.

    If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.

    So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.

    I heard John Salley interviewed a few years ago. He talked about getting on the team bus after games and seeing 7-8 guys eating McDonald's for their post-game meals.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,851 Founders Club
    Still waiting for @RaceBannon to post videos to make an argument for George Mikan
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