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For fuck sakes, will one of you smarts convince me otherwise? Corona just a bunch-a-shit. Imagine

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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,527 Standard Supporter

    If we had a mainstream media and politicians with any credibility, there would be way less confusion and arguing over it. It's been politicized like everything else. People on both extremes are obnoxious and really full of shit and histrionics. Meanwhile we're way more in debt thanks to the hysteria and shutdown of most of the country.

    This is exactly on point.

    Somebody’s lying. And somebody is pouring gas on the fire.

  • 89ute
    89ute Member Posts: 2,486
    edited March 2020
    Sunday night coronavirus positivity in United States: deaths dropped by nearly 50% — the first drop in 8 days — and total new infections dropped for the first time in eight days as well. Double positives - Copied from Clay Travis.



    don't know how to put a tweet in a poast

    wow - it worked

    If we had a mainstream media and politicians with any credibility, there would be way less confusion and arguing over it. It's been politicized like everything else. People on both extremes are obnoxious and really full of shit and histrionics. Meanwhile we're way more in debt thanks to the hysteria and shutdown of most of the country.

    FMB - nailed it. When shit like this gets whipped up I tend rebel. Teq, Doog Bot, Bearswiin - good points. Good reasons to be concerned but I believe this situation is being exploited. Both sides.

  • HustlinOwl
    HustlinOwl Member Posts: 953

    Here in Oregon the unions and dem politicians have succeeded in banning Oregon citizens from pumping their own gas. It's like a sacred thing. Well, no more for now. In order to put thousands of gas pumpers out of work we can now pump our own gas. We are saved.

    Not totally true. I drove through Oregon a couple months ago and was able pump my own gas. I guess towns less than 40,000 people are self pumpers.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,843 Swaye's Wigwam
    When you look at the actual numbers of infected I still think this is a knee jerk reaction. 144000 (rounded up) infected is still .043% of the population.

    Flu infects 6%. There are more transpeople than SARS-COV2 infections.

    Of course, we have been shutdown for 4 weeks so it has not spread that fast.

    Still an overreaction to a virus. Shutting down Washington State because Puget Sound area and I5 corridor is infected is crap.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    We haven’t tested really anybody in the grand scheme of things ... it’s like the stat of passes completed in a soccer game

    Nice to know but won’t tell you shit
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,527 Standard Supporter
    LebamDawg said:

    When you look at the actual numbers of infected I still think this is a knee jerk reaction. 144000 (rounded up) infected is still .043% of the population.

    Flu infects 6%. There are more transpeople than SARS-COV2 infections.

    Of course, we have been shutdown for 4 weeks so it has not spread that fast.

    Still an overreaction to a virus. Shutting down Washington State because Puget Sound area and I5 corridor is infected is crap.

    April 6, fren.

  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    BearsWiin said:

    89ute said:

    BearsWiin said:

    89ute said:

    IT'S NOT THE FLU.

    But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.

    if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.
    Very definitely wrong

    Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
    May not be related, but they appear to be very similar

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu

    Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
    Symptoms

    Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
    Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
    Can result in pneumonia.

    Transmission

    Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
    A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
    Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.

    Treatment

    Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
    Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.

    Prevention

    Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.

    ********

    The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.

    I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.

    It tells you that you're wrong. Influenza and SARS-covid viruses are not related. They can cause similar symptoms, but that does not make them the same.

    Covid-19 has a CFR rate probably ten times higher than the seasonal flu, and humans have no natural immunity to it (yet).

    This is high school-level biology here. Nothing partisan or expert about it.

    To your original question, no. Nobody here will convince you otherwise because you're predisposed to think that this is just the flu. Like most conservatives, you won't give a shit until it hits you personally. At this poont you've been affected by the disruption and not the virus itself, so you have the luxury of bitching about that. I actually hope that the virus doesn't affect you (or anybody else here) so the braintruste here can continue to gleefully complain that it's all a big lib/statist hoax, but sadly I fear that that will not be the case
    How did this shit take turn out?
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    edited March 2022
    MelloDawg said:

    BearsWiin said:

    89ute said:

    BearsWiin said:

    89ute said:

    IT'S NOT THE FLU.

    But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.

    if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.
    Very definitely wrong

    Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
    May not be related, but they appear to be very similar

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu

    Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
    Symptoms

    Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
    Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
    Can result in pneumonia.

    Transmission

    Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
    A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
    Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.

    Treatment

    Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
    Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.

    Prevention

    Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.

    ********

    The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.

    I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.

    It tells you that you're wrong. Influenza and SARS-covid viruses are not related. They can cause similar symptoms, but that does not make them the same.

    Covid-19 has a CFR rate probably ten times higher than the seasonal flu, and humans have no natural immunity to it (yet).

    This is high school-level biology here. Nothing partisan or expert about it.
    It’s like saying a hangover and a brain tumor are the same because they both cause headaches. I’m not saying they’re the same, so don’t twist.
    Is it also like pretending to be a centrist and then taking a lefty political stance to thinking about respiratory virus with a hetereogenous effect on people?