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For fuck sakes, will one of you smarts convince me otherwise? Corona just a bunch-a-shit. Imagine

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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    This is just another stark example of why Utah has no business in the conference of champions.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,600 Standard Supporter
    89ute said:

    BearsWiin said:

    89ute said:

    IT'S NOT THE FLU.

    But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.

    if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.
    Very definitely wrong

    Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
    May not be related, but they appear to be very similar

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu

    Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
    Symptoms

    Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
    Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
    Can result in pneumonia.

    Transmission

    Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
    A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
    Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.

    Treatment

    Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
    Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.

    Prevention

    Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.

    ********

    The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.

    I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.

    You're knew here.

    BW and H are really good at that.

  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Has anyone run across a non-political analysis of the difference between H1N1 outbreak & COVID?
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,935 Standard Supporter
    Other than the flu and the Wuhan flu are both coronaviruses - they definitely are not related. Apparently they don't do science and numbers and sh*t at Cal.
  • 89ute
    89ute Member Posts: 2,486
    Suppose the people who have died of Corona caught the flu instead. Would they have died anyway?
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,076
    edited March 2020
    89ute said:

    BearsWiin said:

    89ute said:

    IT'S NOT THE FLU.

    But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.

    if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.
    Very definitely wrong

    Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
    May not be related, but they appear to be very similar

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu

    Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
    Symptoms

    Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
    Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
    Can result in pneumonia.

    Transmission

    Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
    A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
    Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.

    Treatment

    Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
    Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.

    Prevention

    Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.

    ********

    The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.

    I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.

    It tells you that you're wrong. Influenza and SARS-covid viruses are not related. They can cause similar symptoms, but that does not make them the same.

    Covid-19 has a CFR rate probably ten times higher than the seasonal flu, and humans have no natural immunity to it (yet).

    This is high school-level biology here. Nothing partisan or expert about it.

    To your original question, no. Nobody here will convince you otherwise because you're predisposed to think that this is just the flu. Like most conservatives, you won't give a shit until it hits you personally. At this poont you've been affected by the disruption and not the virus itself, so you have the luxury of bitching about that. I actually hope that the virus doesn't affect you (or anybody else here) so the braintruste here can continue to gleefully complain that it's all a big lib/statist hoax, but sadly I fear that that will not be the case
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,917
    BearsWiin said:

    89ute said:

    BearsWiin said:

    89ute said:

    IT'S NOT THE FLU.

    But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.

    if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.
    Very definitely wrong

    Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
    May not be related, but they appear to be very similar

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu

    Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
    Symptoms

    Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
    Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
    Can result in pneumonia.

    Transmission

    Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
    A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
    Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.

    Treatment

    Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
    Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.

    Prevention

    Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.

    ********

    The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.

    I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.

    It tells you that you're wrong. Influenza and SARS-covid viruses are not related. They can cause similar symptoms, but that does not make them the same.

    Covid-19 has a CFR rate probably ten times higher than the seasonal flu, and humans have no natural immunity to it (yet).

    This is high school-level biology here. Nothing partisan or expert about it.
    It’s like saying a hangover and a brain tumor are the same because they both cause headaches. I’m not saying they’re the same, so don’t twist.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,232
    Yo Ute

    If what’s happening in NYC doesn’t convince anybody of the dangers of treating this in an indifferent manner, not sure what would

    The biggest thing that I see with this is how much more spreadable COVID-19 is. Increasing the volume causes all kinds of problems.

    The lack of immunity or tested treatments at this point is obviously a concern ... also why we need to buy time to let our scientists do their jobs

    Every where in the country will have different peaks but we’ll get this under control by early summer ... then it becomes a race to get treatments/vaccines before the Fall/Winter as well as figuring out what kind of mitigation steps we can take to further buy time
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,859 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    89ute said:

    BearsWiin said:

    89ute said:

    IT'S NOT THE FLU.

    But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.

    if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.
    Very definitely wrong

    Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
    May not be related, but they appear to be very similar

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu

    Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
    Symptoms

    Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
    Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
    Can result in pneumonia.

    Transmission

    Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
    A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
    Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.

    Treatment

    Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
    Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.

    Prevention

    Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.

    ********

    The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.

    I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.

    It tells you that you're wrong. Influenza and SARS-covid viruses are not related. They can cause similar symptoms, but that does not make them the same.

    Covid-19 has a CFR rate probably ten times higher than the seasonal flu, and humans have no natural immunity to it (yet).

    This is high school-level biology here. Nothing partisan or expert about it.

    To your original question, no. Nobody here will convince you otherwise because you're predisposed to think that this is just the flu. Like most conservatives, you won't give a shit until it hits you personally. At this poont you've been affected by the disruption and not the virus itself, so you have the luxury of bitching about that. I actually hope that the virus doesn't affect you (or anybody else here) so the braintruste here can continue to gleefully complain that it's all a big lib/statist hoax, but sadly I fear that that will not be the case
    You're positing yourself as a bastion of compassion?

    As I've said, the one glaring difference between the two is that some doctors are actually dying as a result of treating the infirm. That's unsettling in regards to the big picture.