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For fuck sakes, will one of you smarts convince me otherwise? Corona just a bunch-a-shit. Imagine
89ute
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this much FREE PUB for the flu and pneumonia? Cool little graphs on our screens giving us updates like it's the fucking NCAA tourney? Freaking the fuck out over every single flu/pneumonia death and going full blown ape shit when someone YOUNG sells the couch.
I say flu and pneumonia got this rather easily, say 59K to 2.2K.
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/influenza-and-pneumonia-death-rate/?dataView=1&currentTimeframe=0&sortModel={"colId":"Pneumonia Deaths","sort":"desc"}
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
I say flu and pneumonia got this rather easily, say 59K to 2.2K.
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/influenza-and-pneumonia-death-rate/?dataView=1&currentTimeframe=0&sortModel={"colId":"Pneumonia Deaths","sort":"desc"}
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Comments
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But the flu ain't what the MSM can use to hurt the country to damage Trump.
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I just don't care about it. Open up th economy on April 12 like Trump is eyeing to do. End of April at the latest. Lock down New York if you need to. This is just silly with all the retards predicting doomsday. They're going to keep moving the goalposts now and say, "Yeah but next month it'll get unmanageable, then next month, then next month."
Now it's admittance it will die in summer but come back in the fall.
You just don't understand how an exponential equation works. You just want old people to die so you can go to Starbucks again.
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Here in Oregon the unions and dem politicians have succeeded in banning Oregon citizens from pumping their own gas. It's like a sacred thing. Well, no more for now. In order to put thousands of gas pumpers out of work we can now pump our own gas. We are saved.
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@DJDuck has been literally sentenced to death by thr state of Oregon.WestlinnDuck said:Here in Oregon the unions and dem politicians have succeeded in banning Oregon citizens from pumping their own gas. It's like a sacred thing. Well, no more for now. In order to put thousands of gas pumpers out of work we can now pump our own gas. We are saved.
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IT'S NOT THE FLU.
But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction. -
if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.MikeDamone said:IT'S NOT THE FLU.
But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction. -
You guysm are so dumb. It was clearly started in a secret NRA bio lab. Bidness is booming!!
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I don’t know. But I’ve seen 10000 posts on social media saying ITS NOT THE FLU!!!89ute said:
if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.MikeDamone said:IT'S NOT THE FLU.
But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction. -
Very definitely wrong89ute said:
if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.MikeDamone said:IT'S NOT THE FLU.
But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.
Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related -
May not be related, but they appear to be very similarBearsWiin said:
Very definitely wrong89ute said:
if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.MikeDamone said:IT'S NOT THE FLU.
But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.
Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
Symptoms
Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
Can result in pneumonia.
Transmission
Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.
Treatment
Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.
Prevention
Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.
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The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.
I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.
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This is just another stark example of why Utah has no business in the conference of champions.
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Noted medical expert weighs in.BearsWiin said:
Very definitely wrong89ute said:
if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.MikeDamone said:IT'S NOT THE FLU.
But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.
Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
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You're knew here.89ute said:
May not be related, but they appear to be very similarBearsWiin said:
Very definitely wrong89ute said:
if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.MikeDamone said:IT'S NOT THE FLU.
But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.
Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
Symptoms
Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
Can result in pneumonia.
Transmission
Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.
Treatment
Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.
Prevention
Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.
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The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.
I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.
BW and H are really good at that.
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Has anyone run across a non-political analysis of the difference between H1N1 outbreak & COVID?
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Other than the flu and the Wuhan flu are both coronaviruses - they definitely are not related. Apparently they don't do science and numbers and sh*t at Cal.
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Suppose the people who have died of Corona caught the flu instead. Would they have died anyway?
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It tells you that you're wrong. Influenza and SARS-covid viruses are not related. They can cause similar symptoms, but that does not make them the same.89ute said:
May not be related, but they appear to be very similarBearsWiin said:
Very definitely wrong89ute said:
if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.MikeDamone said:IT'S NOT THE FLU.
But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.
Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
Symptoms
Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
Can result in pneumonia.
Transmission
Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.
Treatment
Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.
Prevention
Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.
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The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.
I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.
Covid-19 has a CFR rate probably ten times higher than the seasonal flu, and humans have no natural immunity to it (yet).
This is high school-level biology here. Nothing partisan or expert about it.
To your original question, no. Nobody here will convince you otherwise because you're predisposed to think that this is just the flu. Like most conservatives, you won't give a shit until it hits you personally. At this poont you've been affected by the disruption and not the virus itself, so you have the luxury of bitching about that. I actually hope that the virus doesn't affect you (or anybody else here) so the braintruste here can continue to gleefully complain that it's all a big lib/statist hoax, but sadly I fear that that will not be the case -
It’s like saying a hangover and a brain tumor are the same because they both cause headaches. I’m not saying they’re the same, so don’t twist.BearsWiin said:
It tells you that you're wrong. Influenza and SARS-covid viruses are not related. They can cause similar symptoms, but that does not make them the same.89ute said:
May not be related, but they appear to be very similarBearsWiin said:
Very definitely wrong89ute said:
if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.MikeDamone said:IT'S NOT THE FLU.
But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.
Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
Symptoms
Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
Can result in pneumonia.
Transmission
Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.
Treatment
Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.
Prevention
Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.
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The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.
I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.
Covid-19 has a CFR rate probably ten times higher than the seasonal flu, and humans have no natural immunity to it (yet).
This is high school-level biology here. Nothing partisan or expert about it. -
Yo Ute
If what’s happening in NYC doesn’t convince anybody of the dangers of treating this in an indifferent manner, not sure what would
The biggest thing that I see with this is how much more spreadable COVID-19 is. Increasing the volume causes all kinds of problems.
The lack of immunity or tested treatments at this point is obviously a concern ... also why we need to buy time to let our scientists do their jobs
Every where in the country will have different peaks but we’ll get this under control by early summer ... then it becomes a race to get treatments/vaccines before the Fall/Winter as well as figuring out what kind of mitigation steps we can take to further buy time -
You're positing yourself as a bastion of compassion?BearsWiin said:
It tells you that you're wrong. Influenza and SARS-covid viruses are not related. They can cause similar symptoms, but that does not make them the same.89ute said:
May not be related, but they appear to be very similarBearsWiin said:
Very definitely wrong89ute said:
if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.MikeDamone said:IT'S NOT THE FLU.
But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.
Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
Symptoms
Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
Can result in pneumonia.
Transmission
Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.
Treatment
Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.
Prevention
Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.
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The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.
I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.
Covid-19 has a CFR rate probably ten times higher than the seasonal flu, and humans have no natural immunity to it (yet).
This is high school-level biology here. Nothing partisan or expert about it.
To your original question, no. Nobody here will convince you otherwise because you're predisposed to think that this is just the flu. Like most conservatives, you won't give a shit until it hits you personally. At this poont you've been affected by the disruption and not the virus itself, so you have the luxury of bitching about that. I actually hope that the virus doesn't affect you (or anybody else here) so the braintruste here can continue to gleefully complain that it's all a big lib/statist hoax, but sadly I fear that that will not be the case
As I've said, the one glaring difference between the two is that some doctors are actually dying as a result of treating the infirm. That's unsettling in regards to the big picture. -
I didn't say that I was. I have very little tolerance for militant ignorance. We're all ignorant to some degree. Not all of us are proud of it.DerekJohnson said:
You're positing yourself as a bastion of compassion?BearsWiin said:
It tells you that you're wrong. Influenza and SARS-covid viruses are not related. They can cause similar symptoms, but that does not make them the same.89ute said:
May not be related, but they appear to be very similarBearsWiin said:
Very definitely wrong89ute said:
if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.MikeDamone said:IT'S NOT THE FLU.
But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.
Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
Symptoms
Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
Can result in pneumonia.
Transmission
Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.
Treatment
Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.
Prevention
Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.
********
The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.
I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.
Covid-19 has a CFR rate probably ten times higher than the seasonal flu, and humans have no natural immunity to it (yet).
This is high school-level biology here. Nothing partisan or expert about it.
To your original question, no. Nobody here will convince you otherwise because you're predisposed to think that this is just the flu. Like most conservatives, you won't give a shit until it hits you personally. At this poont you've been affected by the disruption and not the virus itself, so you have the luxury of bitching about that. I actually hope that the virus doesn't affect you (or anybody else here) so the braintruste here can continue to gleefully complain that it's all a big lib/statist hoax, but sadly I fear that that will not be the case
As I've said, the one glaring difference between the two is that some doctors are actually dying as a result of treating the infirm. That's unsettling in regards to the big picture.
It's also telling that you didn't disagree with me, you merely tried to deflect -
I can be convinced, my mind can be changed. Happens to me all the tim.BearsWiin said:
It tells you that you're wrong. Influenza and SARS-covid viruses are not related. They can cause similar symptoms, but that does not make them the same.89ute said:
May not be related, but they appear to be very similarBearsWiin said:
Very definitely wrong89ute said:
if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.MikeDamone said:IT'S NOT THE FLU.
But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.
Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
Symptoms
Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
Can result in pneumonia.
Transmission
Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.
Treatment
Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.
Prevention
Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.
********
The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.
I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.
Covid-19 has a CFR rate probably ten times higher than the seasonal flu, and humans have no natural immunity to it (yet).
This is high school-level biology here. Nothing partisan or expert about it.
To your original question, no. Nobody here will convince you otherwise because you're predisposed to think that this is just the flu. Like most conservatives, you won't give a shit until it hits you personally. At this poont you've been affected by the disruption and not the virus itself, so you have the luxury of bitching about that. I actually hope that the virus doesn't affect you (or anybody else here) so the braintruste here can continue to gleefully complain that it's all a big lib/statist hoax, but sadly I fear that that will not be the case -
There are numerous corona viruses out there this is just a new strain. New strains of the flu every year too. We build immunity and adapt. We have some immunity to corona viruses as they are also part of what we call the common cold.
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You should most definitely listen to a guy doing laundry and posting in his spare tim.89ute said:
I can be convinced, my mind can be changed. Happens to me all the tim.BearsWiin said:
It tells you that you're wrong. Influenza and SARS-covid viruses are not related. They can cause similar symptoms, but that does not make them the same.89ute said:
May not be related, but they appear to be very similarBearsWiin said:
Very definitely wrong89ute said:
if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.MikeDamone said:IT'S NOT THE FLU.
But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.
Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
Symptoms
Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
Can result in pneumonia.
Transmission
Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.
Treatment
Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.
Prevention
Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.
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The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.
I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.
Covid-19 has a CFR rate probably ten times higher than the seasonal flu, and humans have no natural immunity to it (yet).
This is high school-level biology here. Nothing partisan or expert about it.
To your original question, no. Nobody here will convince you otherwise because you're predisposed to think that this is just the flu. Like most conservatives, you won't give a shit until it hits you personally. At this poont you've been affected by the disruption and not the virus itself, so you have the luxury of bitching about that. I actually hope that the virus doesn't affect you (or anybody else here) so the braintruste here can continue to gleefully complain that it's all a big lib/statist hoax, but sadly I fear that that will not be the case
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Also a guy whose life pretty much has been unchanged besides being able to dine out at a pretentious restaurant and go to the gym.PurpleThrobber said:
You should most definitely listen to a guy doing laundry and posting in his spare tim.89ute said:
I can be convinced, my mind can be changed. Happens to me all the tim.BearsWiin said:
It tells you that you're wrong. Influenza and SARS-covid viruses are not related. They can cause similar symptoms, but that does not make them the same.89ute said:
May not be related, but they appear to be very similarBearsWiin said:
Very definitely wrong89ute said:
if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.MikeDamone said:IT'S NOT THE FLU.
But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.
Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
Symptoms
Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
Can result in pneumonia.
Transmission
Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.
Treatment
Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.
Prevention
Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.
********
The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.
I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.
Covid-19 has a CFR rate probably ten times higher than the seasonal flu, and humans have no natural immunity to it (yet).
This is high school-level biology here. Nothing partisan or expert about it.
To your original question, no. Nobody here will convince you otherwise because you're predisposed to think that this is just the flu. Like most conservatives, you won't give a shit until it hits you personally. At this poont you've been affected by the disruption and not the virus itself, so you have the luxury of bitching about that. I actually hope that the virus doesn't affect you (or anybody else here) so the braintruste here can continue to gleefully complain that it's all a big lib/statist hoax, but sadly I fear that that will not be the case -
agreeTequilla said:Yo Ute
If what’s happening in NYC doesn’t convince anybody of the dangers of treating this in an indifferent manner, not sure what would
The biggest thing that I see with this is how much more spreadable COVID-19 is. Increasing the volume causes all kinds of problems.
The lack of immunity or tested treatments at this point is obviously a concern ... also why we need to buy time to let our scientists do their jobs
Every where in the country will have different peaks but we’ll get this under control by early summer ... then it becomes a race to get treatments/vaccines before the Fall/Winter as well as figuring out what kind of mitigation steps we can take to further buy time -
there you go againBearsWiin said:
I didn't say that I was. I have very little tolerance for militant ignorance. We're all ignorant to some degree. Not all of us are proud of it.DerekJohnson said:
You're positing yourself as a bastion of compassion?BearsWiin said:
It tells you that you're wrong. Influenza and SARS-covid viruses are not related. They can cause similar symptoms, but that does not make them the same.89ute said:
May not be related, but they appear to be very similarBearsWiin said:
Very definitely wrong89ute said:
if it's not the flu, what is it? right or wrong, most likely wrong, i've been thinking it's best described as a strain of flu.MikeDamone said:IT'S NOT THE FLU.
But if the tv media had a flu tote board like CNN does in a split screen where every flu death was reported telethon style I'd expect a pretty severe reaction.
Influenza viruses and corona viruses are not related
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
Symptoms
Both cause fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
Can result in pneumonia.
Transmission
Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
Both can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear.
Treatment
Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
Both are treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.
Prevention
Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected. Social distancing can limit the spread of COVID-19 in communities.
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The BIG SCARY difference between the two is that there is no vaccine for COVID-19.
I'm not pretending to be some smart fuck but it seams to me it's a flu-like illness arguably more contagious than the flu. Telling me I'm wrong does not tell me anything.
Covid-19 has a CFR rate probably ten times higher than the seasonal flu, and humans have no natural immunity to it (yet).
This is high school-level biology here. Nothing partisan or expert about it.
To your original question, no. Nobody here will convince you otherwise because you're predisposed to think that this is just the flu. Like most conservatives, you won't give a shit until it hits you personally. At this poont you've been affected by the disruption and not the virus itself, so you have the luxury of bitching about that. I actually hope that the virus doesn't affect you (or anybody else here) so the braintruste here can continue to gleefully complain that it's all a big lib/statist hoax, but sadly I fear that that will not be the case
As I've said, the one glaring difference between the two is that some doctors are actually dying as a result of treating the infirm. That's unsettling in regards to the big picture.
It's also telling that you didn't disagree with me, you merely tried to deflect -
I don't see what's happening in New York being any different than any where else. Yes, we need more data and it's changing every day. I looked at the worldmeter, took the # of cases and # of deaths ratio. I looked at the top 12 states. Here they are by number of casesTequilla said:Yo Ute
If what’s happening in NYC doesn’t convince anybody of the dangers of treating this in an indifferent manner, not sure what would
The biggest thing that I see with this is how much more spreadable COVID-19 is. Increasing the volume causes all kinds of problems.
The lack of immunity or tested treatments at this point is obviously a concern ... also why we need to buy time to let our scientists do their jobs
Every where in the country will have different peaks but we’ll get this under control by early summer ... then it becomes a race to get treatments/vaccines before the Fall/Winter as well as figuring out what kind of mitigation steps we can take to further buy time
NY 1.627
NJ 1.202
CA 2.110
MI 2.410
MA 0.97
FL 1.21
IL 1.41
WA 4.43 (you guys suck at this)
LA 4.27
PA 1.20
TX 1.35
GA 3.10
To say to look at New York to be convinced, I see more people = more tests = more deaths. The ratio isn't out of line with the other big corona winners. It sounds scary to say New York has 965 deaths, almost half the US total, OUTTA FUCKING CONTROL SHUT IT DOWN - but it's a numbers game. More people, more cases, more deaths.
I get the concern and I may change my tune in a week but this is getting whipped up outa control. To me, what's happening in New York is no different than what's happening anywhere else.
No one gave a shit about this:
How many people died from h1n1 in the US?
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that swine flu infected nearly 61 million people in the United States and caused 12,469 deaths. Worldwide, up to 575,400 people died from pandemic swine flu.Feb 20, 2020
12K deaths and no one gave a shit. Relatively few people get corona and the fucking country gets shut down. I don't get it.
If this thing gets bigger than the regular flu and pneumonia, wake me up I'll be the first one to call 89ute a stupid fucking jackass.
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FFS if only there were places on the internet besides a football message board where people could learn about science.
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Won't be long now89ute said:
I don't see what's happening in New York being any different than any where else. Yes, we need more data and it's changing every day. I looked at the worldmeter, took the # of cases and # of deaths ratio. I looked at the top 12 states. Here they are by number of casesTequilla said:Yo Ute
If what’s happening in NYC doesn’t convince anybody of the dangers of treating this in an indifferent manner, not sure what would
The biggest thing that I see with this is how much more spreadable COVID-19 is. Increasing the volume causes all kinds of problems.
The lack of immunity or tested treatments at this point is obviously a concern ... also why we need to buy time to let our scientists do their jobs
Every where in the country will have different peaks but we’ll get this under control by early summer ... then it becomes a race to get treatments/vaccines before the Fall/Winter as well as figuring out what kind of mitigation steps we can take to further buy time
NY 1.627
NJ 1.202
CA 2.110
MI 2.410
MA 0.97
FL 1.21
IL 1.41
WA 4.43 (you guys suck at this)
LA 4.27
PA 1.20
TX 1.35
GA 3.10
To say to look at New York to be convinced, I see more people = more tests = more deaths. The ratio isn't out of line with the other big corona winners. It sounds scary to say New York has 965 deaths, almost half the US total, OUTTA FUCKING CONTROL SHUT IT DOWN - but it's a numbers game. More people, more cases, more deaths.
I get the concern and I may change my tune in a week but this is getting whipped up outa control. To me, what's happening in New York is no different than what's happening anywhere else.
No one gave a shit about this:
How many people died from h1n1 in the US?
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that swine flu infected nearly 61 million people in the United States and caused 12,469 deaths. Worldwide, up to 575,400 people died from pandemic swine flu.Feb 20, 2020
12K deaths and no one gave a shit. Relatively few people get corona and the fucking country gets shut down. I don't get it.
If this thing gets bigger than the regular flu and pneumonia, wake me up I'll be the first one to call 89ute a stupid fucking jackass.
