Mississippi State would be a decision so bizarre it would force the NCAA to do concussion protocol on Costello every week.
Pro-Style vs Air Raid, No need to get your isht pushed in by LSU, Bama, TAMU, Auburn Benefits of a state with a average IQ over 100 Lack of a full rip and replace of coaches
If you are a One and Done you have to go to a contender. Going to a school where you’ll likely get your ass pounded and benched by mid-season is ill advised.
Feel kinda bad for Sirmon. Kids been committed since what, his sophomore year of HS? UW fan his whole life... this feels like kind of doing him dirty that he's not going to get a chance to prove himself.
It's not like he's talentless...
If the faggot fundy Xtian can't handle the heat, fuck him. If he can, and he wins the job over Costello, he comes out even stronger. If he can and he loses the 2020 job to Costello, he'll have every advantage in a 4 way QB battle come 2021.
Costello notwithstanding, I still think he's the favorite to be the starter next year, and I'll bet someone a Wam membership on it.
He’s not. If they really had trust in him , he would start this year and they wouldn’t be trying to get a transfer QB. I would say he would probably be the least likely starter a year from now. It’s now or never.
Although I don't think the QB battles is settled at all, the Huskies will have only three quarterbacks on the roster this season, and one will be 18 years old and another is a constant portal threat. Although he'd definitely get the chance to compete for the position, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion at all that Costello would be given the starting job. I think whether they like what they have or not, the numbers at quarterback are shit as fuck next year, and they need another warm body.
For whatever reason, Sirmon was the backup last year after Haener left, not Morris. Maybe that was just politics to reward him for not portalling (portaling?), but it is a datapoint.
Either way, the entire offense from the ground up is new this year, so a QB competition will start from ground zero, not some advantaged position for those who "know the offense." Even Garbers will be on level footing, coming in in the spring. Occam's razor suggests they need numbers at the position, and the one who performs best in spring/fall will get the job.
And one or two of the others will transfer.
If they haven't promised the starting job to Costello if he comes here he's not coming here.
He's not sitting the bench his senior year.
He would also be the best QB, rather easily.
I'm all in on getting him in but you dont know enough to say that.
If they haven't promised the starting job to Costello if he comes here he's not coming here.
He's not sitting the bench his senior year.
Every school he talks to is going to promise him the starting job. Any school he goes to is also not going to give it to him if he's not the best option. Leach took a grad transfer just last season. Gage Gabrud, Cuog legend in the spring. Rode the pine his senior season while Gordon started.
Lake will tell Costello anything he needs to tell him, but that doesn't mean shit. And unless Costello is a moron, he knows this.
Imagine comparing KJ Costello to Gabe Gabrud
The Coug were comparing him to Tom Brady! Either way, the point stands. EVERY coach will promise him the job. Every coach will turn that into a lie if he doesn't earn it. What's to lose?
They aren’t taking KJ to sit.
If they take him its because he’s the best QB rather easily.
Gabrud didn’t have nearly the leverage or options that KJ does.
If they haven't promised the starting job to Costello if he comes here he's not coming here.
He's not sitting the bench his senior year.
Every school he talks to is going to promise him the starting job. Any school he goes to is also not going to give it to him if he's not the best option. Leach took a grad transfer just last season. Gage Gabrud, Cuog legend in the spring. Rode the pine his senior season while Gordon started.
Lake will tell Costello anything he needs to tell him, but that doesn't mean shit. And unless Costello is a moron, he knows this.
Imagine comparing KJ Costello to Gabe Gabrud
The Coug were comparing him to Tom Brady! Either way, the point stands. EVERY coach will promise him the job. Every coach will turn that into a lie if he doesn't earn it. What's to lose?
They aren’t taking KJ to sit.
If they take him its because he’s the best QB rather easily.
Gabrud didn’t have nearly the leverage or options that KJ does.
Options? Sure. Leverage? What leverage? Again, no player, transfer QB or otherwise, has ANY leverage the second they sign on the dotted line. Whatever promises were made up to that point go right out the window. In fact, Costello will have among the least amount of leverage on any roster he joins, as there will be no chance of returning after the season. It's not like you have to treat him with kid gloves like Haener because you're worried about him hitting the portal.
The Huskies have three quarterbacks on the roster. They've thrown a combined, what, two passes in college? Maybe they think Costello is better than what they have, but my point is that this isn't necessary for them to want to go out and get him. There are plenty of other reasons to want to take a transfer--high profile or not--such as getting your numbers where you want them, increasing level of competition in the room, having a known quantity to fall back on if none of your young guys can hack it as a starter, etc. The simplest reason for bringing in a transfer would be "why not?" If he's the best guy, great, you just upgraded at QB. If not? Oh well, just a one year rental anyway.
If they haven't promised the starting job to Costello if he comes here he's not coming here.
He's not sitting the bench his senior year.
Every school he talks to is going to promise him the starting job. Any school he goes to is also not going to give it to him if he's not the best option. Leach took a grad transfer just last season. Gage Gabrud, Cuog legend in the spring. Rode the pine his senior season while Gordon started.
Lake will tell Costello anything he needs to tell him, but that doesn't mean shit. And unless Costello is a moron, he knows this.
Imagine comparing KJ Costello to Gabe Gabrud
Plenty of hyped grad transfer QBs have ended up not getting the job or only a timeshare.
Hornibrook (Wisconsin to FSU), Wimbush (Notre Dame to UCF), Stevens (PSU to Miss St), Chryst (Stanford to Tenn), Speight (Mich to UCLA), Dawkins (Arizona to Indiana).
1to392831 has it right. You promise the job but once you get him on campus it’s best man wins.
If they haven't promised the starting job to Costello if he comes here he's not coming here.
He's not sitting the bench his senior year.
Every school he talks to is going to promise him the starting job. Any school he goes to is also not going to give it to him if he's not the best option. Leach took a grad transfer just last season. Gage Gabrud, Cuog legend in the spring. Rode the pine his senior season while Gordon started.
Lake will tell Costello anything he needs to tell him, but that doesn't mean shit. And unless Costello is a moron, he knows this.
Imagine comparing KJ Costello to Gabe Gabrud
Plenty of hyped grad transfer QBs have ended up not getting the job or only a timeshare.
Hornibrook (Wisconsin to FSU), Wimbush (Notre Dame to UCF), Stevens (PSU to Miss St), Chryst (Stanford to Tenn), Speight (Mich to UCLA), Dawkins (Arizona to Indiana).
1to392831 has it right. You promise the job but once you get him on campus it’s best man wins.
Were any of those guys actually hyped though? I think Costello has a better resume than all of the guys listed. Rather easily.
If they haven't promised the starting job to Costello if he comes here he's not coming here.
He's not sitting the bench his senior year.
Every school he talks to is going to promise him the starting job. Any school he goes to is also not going to give it to him if he's not the best option. Leach took a grad transfer just last season. Gage Gabrud, Cuog legend in the spring. Rode the pine his senior season while Gordon started.
Lake will tell Costello anything he needs to tell him, but that doesn't mean shit. And unless Costello is a moron, he knows this.
Imagine comparing KJ Costello to Gabe Gabrud
The Coug were comparing him to Tom Brady! Either way, the point stands. EVERY coach will promise him the job. Every coach will turn that into a lie if he doesn't earn it. What's to lose?
They aren’t taking KJ to sit.
If they take him its because he’s the best QB rather easily.
Gabrud didn’t have nearly the leverage or options that KJ does.
If they haven't promised the starting job to Costello if he comes here he's not coming here.
He's not sitting the bench his senior year.
Every school he talks to is going to promise him the starting job. Any school he goes to is also not going to give it to him if he's not the best option. Leach took a grad transfer just last season. Gage Gabrud, Cuog legend in the spring. Rode the pine his senior season while Gordon started.
Lake will tell Costello anything he needs to tell him, but that doesn't mean shit. And unless Costello is a moron, he knows this.
Imagine comparing KJ Costello to Gabe Gabrud
Plenty of hyped grad transfer QBs have ended up not getting the job or only a timeshare.
Hornibrook (Wisconsin to FSU), Wimbush (Notre Dame to UCF), Stevens (PSU to Miss St), Chryst (Stanford to Tenn), Speight (Mich to UCLA), Dawkins (Arizona to Indiana).
1to392831 has it right. You promise the job but once you get him on campus it’s best man wins.
Were any of those guys actually hyped though? I think Costello has a better resume than all of the guys listed. Rather easily.
Hornibrook, Speight, and Chryst all had success as starters before losing the job at least partially due to injuries the following year.
Hornibrook’s 2017 stats are comparable to Costello’s 2018 and he was only a soph. And he led Wisconsin to a 13-1 season. Chryst also looked very good after winning the Stanford job in the second half of 2016 before getting injured in 2017.
Wimbush was a big recruit and one time starter at Notre Dame who it was thought would be a good fit in Heupel’s offense at a lower level. Interestingly he started the opener but then lost his job to a true freshman.
If they haven't promised the starting job to Costello if he comes here he's not coming here.
He's not sitting the bench his senior year.
Every school he talks to is going to promise him the starting job. Any school he goes to is also not going to give it to him if he's not the best option. Leach took a grad transfer just last season. Gage Gabrud, Cuog legend in the spring. Rode the pine his senior season while Gordon started.
Lake will tell Costello anything he needs to tell him, but that doesn't mean shit. And unless Costello is a moron, he knows this.
Imagine comparing KJ Costello to Gabe Gabrud
Plenty of hyped grad transfer QBs have ended up not getting the job or only a timeshare.
Hornibrook (Wisconsin to FSU), Wimbush (Notre Dame to UCF), Stevens (PSU to Miss St), Chryst (Stanford to Tenn), Speight (Mich to UCLA), Dawkins (Arizona to Indiana).
1to392831 has it right. You promise the job but once you get him on campus it’s best man wins.
Those guys all sucked. Costello will start if he comes. No guarantees after that, but c‘mon. Sirmon and Morris aren’t beating him out.
If they haven't promised the starting job to Costello if he comes here he's not coming here.
He's not sitting the bench his senior year.
Every school he talks to is going to promise him the starting job. Any school he goes to is also not going to give it to him if he's not the best option. Leach took a grad transfer just last season. Gage Gabrud, Cuog legend in the spring. Rode the pine his senior season while Gordon started.
Lake will tell Costello anything he needs to tell him, but that doesn't mean shit. And unless Costello is a moron, he knows this.
Imagine comparing KJ Costello to Gabe Gabrud
Plenty of hyped grad transfer QBs have ended up not getting the job or only a timeshare.
Hornibrook (Wisconsin to FSU), Wimbush (Notre Dame to UCF), Stevens (PSU to Miss St), Chryst (Stanford to Tenn), Speight (Mich to UCLA), Dawkins (Arizona to Indiana).
1to392831 has it right. You promise the job but once you get him on campus it’s best man wins.
Those guys all sucked. Costello will start if he comes. No guarantees after that, but c‘mon. Sirmon and Morris aren’t beating him out.
Probably not but we don’t really know what we have in Morris or Garbers so can’t say for sure.
Costello might have a slightly better resume than a Hornibrook or Chryst but he is nowhere near the league of a Hurts or Fields.
If they haven't promised the starting job to Costello if he comes here he's not coming here.
He's not sitting the bench his senior year.
Every school he talks to is going to promise him the starting job. Any school he goes to is also not going to give it to him if he's not the best option. Leach took a grad transfer just last season. Gage Gabrud, Cuog legend in the spring. Rode the pine his senior season while Gordon started.
Lake will tell Costello anything he needs to tell him, but that doesn't mean shit. And unless Costello is a moron, he knows this.
Imagine comparing KJ Costello to Gabe Gabrud
Plenty of hyped grad transfer QBs have ended up not getting the job or only a timeshare.
Hornibrook (Wisconsin to FSU), Wimbush (Notre Dame to UCF), Stevens (PSU to Miss St), Chryst (Stanford to Tenn), Speight (Mich to UCLA), Dawkins (Arizona to Indiana).
1to392831 has it right. You promise the job but once you get him on campus it’s best man wins.
Were any of those guys actually hyped though? I think Costello has a better resume than all of the guys listed. Rather easily.
Hornibrook, Speight, and Chryst all had success as starters before losing the job at least partially due to injuries the following year.
Hornibrook’s 2017 stats are comparable to Costello’s 2018 and he was only a soph. And he led Wisconsin to a 13-1 season. Chryst also looked very good after winning the Stanford job in the second half of 2016 before getting injured in 2017.
Wimbush was a big recruit and one time starter at Notre Dame who it was thought would be a good fit in Heupel’s offense at a lower level. Interestingly he started the opener but then lost his job to a true freshman.
I don't see how those numbers are comparable. Hornibrook was like every Wiscy QB since Wilson, a noodle arm game manager who did enough to not lose games. Costello was the first Stanford QB since Luck who secondaries actually feared. I know Hogan won a lot of games but he was a mediocre passer at best.
Costello had a good year in 2018 no doubt. I’ve written previously about how efficient Stanford was while passing in 2018 and how they would have won more games if they weren’t hellbent on establishing their identity as a power running team.
My point is that he isn’t a sure thing and hasn’t shown to be elite. He hasn’t even committed yet and people are already starting to ramp up the savior narrative like they did with Eason.
Costello had a good year in 2018 no doubt. I’ve written previously about how efficient Stanford was while passing in 2018 and how they would have won more games if they weren’t hellbent on establishing their identity as a power running team.
My point is that he isn’t a sure thing and hasn’t shown to be elite. He hasn’t even committed yet and people are already starting to ramp up the savior narrative like they did with Eason.
Who is ramping up the narrative? We're not seeing the same things.
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If they take him its because he’s the best QB rather easily.
Gabrud didn’t have nearly the leverage or options that KJ does.
The Huskies have three quarterbacks on the roster. They've thrown a combined, what, two passes in college? Maybe they think Costello is better than what they have, but my point is that this isn't necessary for them to want to go out and get him. There are plenty of other reasons to want to take a transfer--high profile or not--such as getting your numbers where you want them, increasing level of competition in the room, having a known quantity to fall back on if none of your young guys can hack it as a starter, etc. The simplest reason for bringing in a transfer would be "why not?" If he's the best guy, great, you just upgraded at QB. If not? Oh well, just a one year rental anyway.
Hornibrook (Wisconsin to FSU), Wimbush (Notre Dame to UCF), Stevens (PSU to Miss St), Chryst (Stanford to Tenn), Speight (Mich to UCLA), Dawkins (Arizona to Indiana).
1to392831 has it right. You promise the job but once you get him on campus it’s best man wins.
What leverage does KJ have?
I believe grad school applications were due on December 1. And I thought they never made exceptions. Hopefully that has change though
Hornibrook’s 2017 stats are comparable to Costello’s 2018 and he was only a soph. And he led Wisconsin to a 13-1 season. Chryst also looked very good after winning the Stanford job in the second half of 2016 before getting injured in 2017.
Wimbush was a big recruit and one time starter at Notre Dame who it was thought would be a good fit in Heupel’s offense at a lower level. Interestingly he started the opener but then lost his job to a true freshman.
Costello might have a slightly better resume than a Hornibrook or Chryst but he is nowhere near the league of a Hurts or Fields.
Costello 2018: 3540 yards, 65% completoin, 29 TDs, 11 INTs
I don't see how those numbers are comparable. Hornibrook was like every Wiscy QB since Wilson, a noodle arm game manager who did enough to not lose games. Costello was the first Stanford QB since Luck who secondaries actually feared. I know Hogan won a lot of games but he was a mediocre passer at best.
The difference is Hornibrook threw too many INTs.
Costello had a good year in 2018 no doubt. I’ve written previously about how efficient Stanford was while passing in 2018 and how they would have won more games if they weren’t hellbent on establishing their identity as a power running team.
My point is that he isn’t a sure thing and hasn’t shown to be elite. He hasn’t even committed yet and people are already starting to ramp up the savior narrative like they did with Eason.
i hope kj enjoys piss state.