Under the presidency of Donald Trump, America has gone from being one-fifth of the world’s economy to one-fourth — in three short years.
Economic events of today’s Trump economy will shape the perceptions of today’s newest Americans:
The economy has added 6 million jobs in the past three years. Unemployment rate dropped to 3.6 percent, the lowest level in 50 years. Economic growth rate is 2.1 percent. The ideal growth rate is between 2-3 percent. Median household income has reached $65,976 – an all-time high and up more than 8 percent in 2019 dollars under the Trump presidency Middle-class incomes, after adjusting for inflation, have surged by $5,003 since Donald Trump became president in January 2017. The poverty rate and food stamp rolls declined 15 percent. Stock prices rose: The S&P 500 index was up 29.8 percent. The number of murders dropped 6.9%. The FBI’s annual crime report, shows violent crime rate dropping 4.6 percent since President Trump took office, reversing an uptick in violent crime that occurred under the last two years of President Barack Obama.
What Cons used to call shitty growth is now celebrated. Some of us pointed out that 2-3% was good back when the black fella was President. But you girls aren’t hypocrites, of course.
The problem is that you can’t be anti-immigrant, have historically low birth rates and labor shortages, and also expect growth to continue in the sweet spot.
Obama averaged under 1% for 8 years
You want to crown his ass then crown it but he was who we said he was
Trump is at 2% and no reason for it not to keep climbing as the deregulation and tax cuts continue their work
Obama didn't do shit and sucked. Get over it
Good economic policy has nothing to do with race unless you're a racist like @HHusky
Obama took office in 2009. The lowest US growth rate thereafter was 1.6% in 2011, which is very close to forecasts of US growth in 2020. And I’ve always given you credit Race: your irrational hatred of Obama is not because he’s black. Can’t say the same about everyone here.
Obama was milquetoast when it came to private sector and heavy handed on regulation. His policies absolutely dragged the economy. He believed in tax and spend as dems do. Big G at the cost of C & I since you believe in economics supposedly. I'll give him that he didn't completely wreck things like Warren or Sanders would but his entire premise (which you share) is managed decline with the government doing the managing.
When president's parties control Congress and pass major legislation there absolutely are economic ramifications, see tax cuts vs. Obamacare. Sure, there's all kinds of mitigating factors but you like to cherry pick what you do and don't contextualize.
You don’t have to have a decline. Working people still want in and you can incentivize people to have more kids.
Don't tell me tell the dems. Also, maybe just have government get the fuck out of the way.
You’re an open borders advocate? How did the government stop millennials from reproducing?
Massive government overregulation of childcare has made it ultra expensive to have children. Childcare costs more than a mortgage even in ultra expensive locations and doesn't get much cheaper in the boonies. Axe @YellowSnow or @dnc or anyone with young kids. It's a universal problem for my generation.
Wifey's a mostly stay at home madre (she still works 8 hours a week at her old job) so we're not super familiar with the high costs of childcare. It definitely amazes me how much people spend on it though.
And if childcare wasn't so expensive your wife or others in a similar situation might opt to use more of it. That might allow them to make more money. Which obviously impacts working and middle class families the most.
It's pretty crazy out here in California. I ran the ROI and you basically have to make more than $60k+ per parent a year to justify even going to work at all. Nevermind any kind of stress or marginal utility etc. That doesn't sound like a lot but when you consider where median wages are it is. If it wasn't for all of the existing subsidies to lower income households for childcare you'd hear the Left banging the drum on this too. Per usual though their solution would be more government handouts for votes. Never a market based approach to drive down costs to the consumer(bc classic economics right?)
Hilariously, even @BearsWiin is a stay at home dad while arguing that childcare isn't over regulated. Nevermind that he and H have at best a passing familiarity with the industry, the regulations, or what a middle income family deals with, they know the answer already based on their ideology. Childcare providers are just out to squeeze a buck and have no inherent interest in the welfare of children under their care.
I don't have the "inventory" (shout out to @creepycoug since I am using this term moar) to make an informed comment on how regs affect child care costs. I think it's common sense though that an infant room shouldn't have more that 4:1 and 3:1 is preferred.
Up in our neck of the woods, they have to pay about $17 or $18 to start with full medical just to find decent help. The lead teacher in each class is probably making in the low $20s per hour.
Even more common sense that it should be a parent with the kids all day. The consumer of daycare should be able to decide what is best for their family and their particular circumstance. But of course the arrogant elitists know what's best for everyone and their situation.
That ship has sailed sadly for most of us. In my peer group there's hardly any single income, stay at home parent households.
My wife has worked in the industry for almost 20 years and has run major centers all over the country. Her licensing and regulatory requirements are extreme to say the least. So much so that she is regularly contracted as an expert witness on major litigation (which there's also a ton of).
You'd think with your education in economics you'd be familiar with the fact that regulatory burden increases barriers to entry and thus increases costs to the consumer. That's like micro 102 after all.
Then there's all of the rising costs because of government subsidies and inflated administration that goes along with that. Kind of like the medical industry, college education, housing, and all of the other things the Government "makes affordable".
I could bother to cite plenty of evidence but let's be honest H your ideology won't allow you to change your mind so why bother?
Nobody says there isn’t a regulatory burden. You girls haven’t said what regulations you want to eliminate.
They hate the regulations that keep them from being able to screw others for the sake of a buck. They love the regulations that keep others from being able to screw them for the sake of a buck.
Yeah, how dare I want childcare that's affordable to more parents because they don't have to follow Michelle's nutrition guidelines for licensing. I'm sure the daycares would start feeding them motor oil. Jfc you ladies are so clueless and pearl clutching.
This looks damn delicious and nutritious!
Fucking ridiculous communist buffoons.
Looks relatively low carb, but too much sugar in the ketchup and apple.
Apple sugar is good for you. Ketchup sugar not so much.
Apple sugar is sugar. And it not any better for you than other sugar.
Under the presidency of Donald Trump, America has gone from being one-fifth of the world’s economy to one-fourth — in three short years.
Economic events of today’s Trump economy will shape the perceptions of today’s newest Americans:
The economy has added 6 million jobs in the past three years. Unemployment rate dropped to 3.6 percent, the lowest level in 50 years. Economic growth rate is 2.1 percent. The ideal growth rate is between 2-3 percent. Median household income has reached $65,976 – an all-time high and up more than 8 percent in 2019 dollars under the Trump presidency Middle-class incomes, after adjusting for inflation, have surged by $5,003 since Donald Trump became president in January 2017. The poverty rate and food stamp rolls declined 15 percent. Stock prices rose: The S&P 500 index was up 29.8 percent. The number of murders dropped 6.9%. The FBI’s annual crime report, shows violent crime rate dropping 4.6 percent since President Trump took office, reversing an uptick in violent crime that occurred under the last two years of President Barack Obama.
What Cons used to call shitty growth is now celebrated. Some of us pointed out that 2-3% was good back when the black fella was President. But you girls aren’t hypocrites, of course.
The problem is that you can’t be anti-immigrant, have historically low birth rates and labor shortages, and also expect growth to continue in the sweet spot.
Obama averaged under 1% for 8 years
You want to crown his ass then crown it but he was who we said he was
Trump is at 2% and no reason for it not to keep climbing as the deregulation and tax cuts continue their work
Obama didn't do shit and sucked. Get over it
Good economic policy has nothing to do with race unless you're a racist like @HHusky
Obama took office in 2009. The lowest US growth rate thereafter was 1.6% in 2011, which is very close to forecasts of US growth in 2020. And I’ve always given you credit Race: your irrational hatred of Obama is not because he’s black. Can’t say the same about everyone here.
Obama was milquetoast when it came to private sector and heavy handed on regulation. His policies absolutely dragged the economy. He believed in tax and spend as dems do. Big G at the cost of C & I since you believe in economics supposedly. I'll give him that he didn't completely wreck things like Warren or Sanders would but his entire premise (which you share) is managed decline with the government doing the managing.
When president's parties control Congress and pass major legislation there absolutely are economic ramifications, see tax cuts vs. Obamacare. Sure, there's all kinds of mitigating factors but you like to cherry pick what you do and don't contextualize.
You don’t have to have a decline. Working people still want in and you can incentivize people to have more kids.
Don't tell me tell the dems. Also, maybe just have government get the fuck out of the way.
You’re an open borders advocate? How did the government stop millennials from reproducing?
Massive government overregulation of childcare has made it ultra expensive to have children. Childcare costs more than a mortgage even in ultra expensive locations and doesn't get much cheaper in the boonies. Axe @YellowSnow or @dnc or anyone with young kids. It's a universal problem for my generation.
Wifey's a mostly stay at home madre (she still works 8 hours a week at her old job) so we're not super familiar with the high costs of childcare. It definitely amazes me how much people spend on it though.
And if childcare wasn't so expensive your wife or others in a similar situation might opt to use more of it. That might allow them to make more money. Which obviously impacts working and middle class families the most.
It's pretty crazy out here in California. I ran the ROI and you basically have to make more than $60k+ per parent a year to justify even going to work at all. Nevermind any kind of stress or marginal utility etc. That doesn't sound like a lot but when you consider where median wages are it is. If it wasn't for all of the existing subsidies to lower income households for childcare you'd hear the Left banging the drum on this too. Per usual though their solution would be more government handouts for votes. Never a market based approach to drive down costs to the consumer(bc classic economics right?)
Hilariously, even @BearsWiin is a stay at home dad while arguing that childcare isn't over regulated. Nevermind that he and H have at best a passing familiarity with the industry, the regulations, or what a middle income family deals with, they know the answer already based on their ideology. Childcare providers are just out to squeeze a buck and have no inherent interest in the welfare of children under their care.
I don't have the "inventory" (shout out to @creepycoug since I am using this term moar) to make an informed comment on how regs affect child care costs. I think it's common sense though that an infant room shouldn't have more that 4:1 and 3:1 is preferred.
Up in our neck of the woods, they have to pay about $17 or $18 to start with full medical just to find decent help. The lead teacher in each class is probably making in the low $20s per hour.
Even more common sense that it should be a parent with the kids all day. The consumer of daycare should be able to decide what is best for their family and their particular circumstance. But of course the arrogant elitists know what's best for everyone and their situation.
That ship has sailed sadly for most of us. In my peer group there's hardly any single income, stay at home parent households.
It's made a come back down here in SoCal bc of the economics of what I pointed out earlier. If Childcare costs $45,000+ per year for your family, you make less than that, and quitting an income moves you into a lower bracket that qualifies you for all of California's lengthy list of welfare policies why wouldn't you?
My wife has worked in the industry for almost 20 years and has run major centers all over the country. Her licensing and regulatory requirements are extreme to say the least. So much so that she is regularly contracted as an expert witness on major litigation (which there's also a ton of).
You'd think with your education in economics you'd be familiar with the fact that regulatory burden increases barriers to entry and thus increases costs to the consumer. That's like micro 102 after all.
Then there's all of the rising costs because of government subsidies and inflated administration that goes along with that. Kind of like the medical industry, college education, housing, and all of the other things the Government "makes affordable".
I could bother to cite plenty of evidence but let's be honest H your ideology won't allow you to change your mind so why bother?
Nobody says there isn’t a regulatory burden. You girls haven’t said what regulations you want to eliminate.
They hate the regulations that keep them from being able to screw others for the sake of a buck. They love the regulations that keep others from being able to screw them for the sake of a buck.
Yeah, how dare I want childcare that's affordable to more parents because they don't have to follow Michelle's nutrition guidelines for licensing. I'm sure the daycares would start feeding them motor oil. Jfc you ladies are so clueless and pearl clutching.
This looks damn delicious and nutritious!
Fucking ridiculous communist buffoons.
Looks relatively low carb, but too much sugar in the ketchup and apple.
Apple sugar is good for you. Ketchup sugar not so much.
Apple sugar is sugar. And it not any better for you than other sugar.
Apple vitamins and fiber are good for you.
*sugar superiority guy
I don't cross fit, bruh. And I fucking love bread!
Under the presidency of Donald Trump, America has gone from being one-fifth of the world’s economy to one-fourth — in three short years.
Economic events of today’s Trump economy will shape the perceptions of today’s newest Americans:
The economy has added 6 million jobs in the past three years. Unemployment rate dropped to 3.6 percent, the lowest level in 50 years. Economic growth rate is 2.1 percent. The ideal growth rate is between 2-3 percent. Median household income has reached $65,976 – an all-time high and up more than 8 percent in 2019 dollars under the Trump presidency Middle-class incomes, after adjusting for inflation, have surged by $5,003 since Donald Trump became president in January 2017. The poverty rate and food stamp rolls declined 15 percent. Stock prices rose: The S&P 500 index was up 29.8 percent. The number of murders dropped 6.9%. The FBI’s annual crime report, shows violent crime rate dropping 4.6 percent since President Trump took office, reversing an uptick in violent crime that occurred under the last two years of President Barack Obama.
What Cons used to call shitty growth is now celebrated. Some of us pointed out that 2-3% was good back when the black fella was President. But you girls aren’t hypocrites, of course.
The problem is that you can’t be anti-immigrant, have historically low birth rates and labor shortages, and also expect growth to continue in the sweet spot.
Obama averaged under 1% for 8 years
You want to crown his ass then crown it but he was who we said he was
Trump is at 2% and no reason for it not to keep climbing as the deregulation and tax cuts continue their work
Obama didn't do shit and sucked. Get over it
Good economic policy has nothing to do with race unless you're a racist like @HHusky
Obama took office in 2009. The lowest US growth rate thereafter was 1.6% in 2011, which is very close to forecasts of US growth in 2020. And I’ve always given you credit Race: your irrational hatred of Obama is not because he’s black. Can’t say the same about everyone here.
Obama was milquetoast when it came to private sector and heavy handed on regulation. His policies absolutely dragged the economy. He believed in tax and spend as dems do. Big G at the cost of C & I since you believe in economics supposedly. I'll give him that he didn't completely wreck things like Warren or Sanders would but his entire premise (which you share) is managed decline with the government doing the managing.
When president's parties control Congress and pass major legislation there absolutely are economic ramifications, see tax cuts vs. Obamacare. Sure, there's all kinds of mitigating factors but you like to cherry pick what you do and don't contextualize.
You don’t have to have a decline. Working people still want in and you can incentivize people to have more kids.
Don't tell me tell the dems. Also, maybe just have government get the fuck out of the way.
You’re an open borders advocate? How did the government stop millennials from reproducing?
Massive government overregulation of childcare has made it ultra expensive to have children. Childcare costs more than a mortgage even in ultra expensive locations and doesn't get much cheaper in the boonies. Axe @YellowSnow or @dnc or anyone with young kids. It's a universal problem for my generation.
Wifey's a mostly stay at home madre (she still works 8 hours a week at her old job) so we're not super familiar with the high costs of childcare. It definitely amazes me how much people spend on it though.
And if childcare wasn't so expensive your wife or others in a similar situation might opt to use more of it. That might allow them to make more money. Which obviously impacts working and middle class families the most.
It's pretty crazy out here in California. I ran the ROI and you basically have to make more than $60k+ per parent a year to justify even going to work at all. Nevermind any kind of stress or marginal utility etc. That doesn't sound like a lot but when you consider where median wages are it is. If it wasn't for all of the existing subsidies to lower income households for childcare you'd hear the Left banging the drum on this too. Per usual though their solution would be more government handouts for votes. Never a market based approach to drive down costs to the consumer(bc classic economics right?)
Hilariously, even @BearsWiin is a stay at home dad while arguing that childcare isn't over regulated. Nevermind that he and H have at best a passing familiarity with the industry, the regulations, or what a middle income family deals with, they know the answer already based on their ideology. Childcare providers are just out to squeeze a buck and have no inherent interest in the welfare of children under their care.
I’m very familiar with the industry. It is regulated. None of you have made a factual case that it is “over regulated”. And child care is fucking expensive, which gets me back to my point that government can craft incentives for people to reproduce. I’m told people respond to incentives.
Under the presidency of Donald Trump, America has gone from being one-fifth of the world’s economy to one-fourth — in three short years.
Economic events of today’s Trump economy will shape the perceptions of today’s newest Americans:
The economy has added 6 million jobs in the past three years. Unemployment rate dropped to 3.6 percent, the lowest level in 50 years. Economic growth rate is 2.1 percent. The ideal growth rate is between 2-3 percent. Median household income has reached $65,976 – an all-time high and up more than 8 percent in 2019 dollars under the Trump presidency Middle-class incomes, after adjusting for inflation, have surged by $5,003 since Donald Trump became president in January 2017. The poverty rate and food stamp rolls declined 15 percent. Stock prices rose: The S&P 500 index was up 29.8 percent. The number of murders dropped 6.9%. The FBI’s annual crime report, shows violent crime rate dropping 4.6 percent since President Trump took office, reversing an uptick in violent crime that occurred under the last two years of President Barack Obama.
What Cons used to call shitty growth is now celebrated. Some of us pointed out that 2-3% was good back when the black fella was President. But you girls aren’t hypocrites, of course.
The problem is that you can’t be anti-immigrant, have historically low birth rates and labor shortages, and also expect growth to continue in the sweet spot.
Obama averaged under 1% for 8 years
You want to crown his ass then crown it but he was who we said he was
Trump is at 2% and no reason for it not to keep climbing as the deregulation and tax cuts continue their work
Obama didn't do shit and sucked. Get over it
Good economic policy has nothing to do with race unless you're a racist like @HHusky
Obama took office in 2009. The lowest US growth rate thereafter was 1.6% in 2011, which is very close to forecasts of US growth in 2020. And I’ve always given you credit Race: your irrational hatred of Obama is not because he’s black. Can’t say the same about everyone here.
Obama was milquetoast when it came to private sector and heavy handed on regulation. His policies absolutely dragged the economy. He believed in tax and spend as dems do. Big G at the cost of C & I since you believe in economics supposedly. I'll give him that he didn't completely wreck things like Warren or Sanders would but his entire premise (which you share) is managed decline with the government doing the managing.
When president's parties control Congress and pass major legislation there absolutely are economic ramifications, see tax cuts vs. Obamacare. Sure, there's all kinds of mitigating factors but you like to cherry pick what you do and don't contextualize.
You don’t have to have a decline. Working people still want in and you can incentivize people to have more kids.
Don't tell me tell the dems. Also, maybe just have government get the fuck out of the way.
You’re an open borders advocate? How did the government stop millennials from reproducing?
Massive government overregulation of childcare has made it ultra expensive to have children. Childcare costs more than a mortgage even in ultra expensive locations and doesn't get much cheaper in the boonies. Axe @YellowSnow or @dnc or anyone with young kids. It's a universal problem for my generation.
Wifey's a mostly stay at home madre (she still works 8 hours a week at her old job) so we're not super familiar with the high costs of childcare. It definitely amazes me how much people spend on it though.
And if childcare wasn't so expensive your wife or others in a similar situation might opt to use more of it. That might allow them to make more money. Which obviously impacts working and middle class families the most.
It's pretty crazy out here in California. I ran the ROI and you basically have to make more than $60k+ per parent a year to justify even going to work at all. Nevermind any kind of stress or marginal utility etc. That doesn't sound like a lot but when you consider where median wages are it is. If it wasn't for all of the existing subsidies to lower income households for childcare you'd hear the Left banging the drum on this too. Per usual though their solution would be more government handouts for votes. Never a market based approach to drive down costs to the consumer(bc classic economics right?)
Hilariously, even @BearsWiin is a stay at home dad while arguing that childcare isn't over regulated. Nevermind that he and H have at best a passing familiarity with the industry, the regulations, or what a middle income family deals with, they know the answer already based on their ideology. Childcare providers are just out to squeeze a buck and have no inherent interest in the welfare of children under their care.
I don't have the "inventory" (shout out to @creepycoug since I am using this term moar) to make an informed comment on how regs affect child care costs. I think it's common sense though that an infant room shouldn't have more that 4:1 and 3:1 is preferred.
Up in our neck of the woods, they have to pay about $17 or $18 to start with full medical just to find decent help. The lead teacher in each class is probably making in the low $20s per hour.
Even more common sense that it should be a parent with the kids all day. The consumer of daycare should be able to decide what is best for their family and their particular circumstance. But of course the arrogant elitists know what's best for everyone and their situation.
That ship has sailed sadly for most of us. In my peer group there's hardly any single income, stay at home parent households.
Is it sad? There aren’t really a lot of kids playing in the neighborhood anymore. The kids and their friends are in school, preschool or daycare.
Under the presidency of Donald Trump, America has gone from being one-fifth of the world’s economy to one-fourth — in three short years.
Economic events of today’s Trump economy will shape the perceptions of today’s newest Americans:
The economy has added 6 million jobs in the past three years. Unemployment rate dropped to 3.6 percent, the lowest level in 50 years. Economic growth rate is 2.1 percent. The ideal growth rate is between 2-3 percent. Median household income has reached $65,976 – an all-time high and up more than 8 percent in 2019 dollars under the Trump presidency Middle-class incomes, after adjusting for inflation, have surged by $5,003 since Donald Trump became president in January 2017. The poverty rate and food stamp rolls declined 15 percent. Stock prices rose: The S&P 500 index was up 29.8 percent. The number of murders dropped 6.9%. The FBI’s annual crime report, shows violent crime rate dropping 4.6 percent since President Trump took office, reversing an uptick in violent crime that occurred under the last two years of President Barack Obama.
What Cons used to call shitty growth is now celebrated. Some of us pointed out that 2-3% was good back when the black fella was President. But you girls aren’t hypocrites, of course.
The problem is that you can’t be anti-immigrant, have historically low birth rates and labor shortages, and also expect growth to continue in the sweet spot.
Obama averaged under 1% for 8 years
You want to crown his ass then crown it but he was who we said he was
Trump is at 2% and no reason for it not to keep climbing as the deregulation and tax cuts continue their work
Obama didn't do shit and sucked. Get over it
Good economic policy has nothing to do with race unless you're a racist like @HHusky
Obama took office in 2009. The lowest US growth rate thereafter was 1.6% in 2011, which is very close to forecasts of US growth in 2020. And I’ve always given you credit Race: your irrational hatred of Obama is not because he’s black. Can’t say the same about everyone here.
Obama was milquetoast when it came to private sector and heavy handed on regulation. His policies absolutely dragged the economy. He believed in tax and spend as dems do. Big G at the cost of C & I since you believe in economics supposedly. I'll give him that he didn't completely wreck things like Warren or Sanders would but his entire premise (which you share) is managed decline with the government doing the managing.
When president's parties control Congress and pass major legislation there absolutely are economic ramifications, see tax cuts vs. Obamacare. Sure, there's all kinds of mitigating factors but you like to cherry pick what you do and don't contextualize.
You don’t have to have a decline. Working people still want in and you can incentivize people to have more kids.
Don't tell me tell the dems. Also, maybe just have government get the fuck out of the way.
You’re an open borders advocate? How did the government stop millennials from reproducing?
Massive government overregulation of childcare has made it ultra expensive to have children. Childcare costs more than a mortgage even in ultra expensive locations and doesn't get much cheaper in the boonies. Axe @YellowSnow or @dnc or anyone with young kids. It's a universal problem for my generation.
Wifey's a mostly stay at home madre (she still works 8 hours a week at her old job) so we're not super familiar with the high costs of childcare. It definitely amazes me how much people spend on it though.
And if childcare wasn't so expensive your wife or others in a similar situation might opt to use more of it. That might allow them to make more money. Which obviously impacts working and middle class families the most.
It's pretty crazy out here in California. I ran the ROI and you basically have to make more than $60k+ per parent a year to justify even going to work at all. Nevermind any kind of stress or marginal utility etc. That doesn't sound like a lot but when you consider where median wages are it is. If it wasn't for all of the existing subsidies to lower income households for childcare you'd hear the Left banging the drum on this too. Per usual though their solution would be more government handouts for votes. Never a market based approach to drive down costs to the consumer(bc classic economics right?)
Hilariously, even @BearsWiin is a stay at home dad while arguing that childcare isn't over regulated. Nevermind that he and H have at best a passing familiarity with the industry, the regulations, or what a middle income family deals with, they know the answer already based on their ideology. Childcare providers are just out to squeeze a buck and have no inherent interest in the welfare of children under their care.
I never argued that, but thanks for thinking of me
Under the presidency of Donald Trump, America has gone from being one-fifth of the world’s economy to one-fourth — in three short years.
Economic events of today’s Trump economy will shape the perceptions of today’s newest Americans:
The economy has added 6 million jobs in the past three years. Unemployment rate dropped to 3.6 percent, the lowest level in 50 years. Economic growth rate is 2.1 percent. The ideal growth rate is between 2-3 percent. Median household income has reached $65,976 – an all-time high and up more than 8 percent in 2019 dollars under the Trump presidency Middle-class incomes, after adjusting for inflation, have surged by $5,003 since Donald Trump became president in January 2017. The poverty rate and food stamp rolls declined 15 percent. Stock prices rose: The S&P 500 index was up 29.8 percent. The number of murders dropped 6.9%. The FBI’s annual crime report, shows violent crime rate dropping 4.6 percent since President Trump took office, reversing an uptick in violent crime that occurred under the last two years of President Barack Obama.
What Cons used to call shitty growth is now celebrated. Some of us pointed out that 2-3% was good back when the black fella was President. But you girls aren’t hypocrites, of course.
The problem is that you can’t be anti-immigrant, have historically low birth rates and labor shortages, and also expect growth to continue in the sweet spot.
Obama averaged under 1% for 8 years
You want to crown his ass then crown it but he was who we said he was
Trump is at 2% and no reason for it not to keep climbing as the deregulation and tax cuts continue their work
Obama didn't do shit and sucked. Get over it
Good economic policy has nothing to do with race unless you're a racist like @HHusky
Obama took office in 2009. The lowest US growth rate thereafter was 1.6% in 2011, which is very close to forecasts of US growth in 2020. And I’ve always given you credit Race: your irrational hatred of Obama is not because he’s black. Can’t say the same about everyone here.
Obama was milquetoast when it came to private sector and heavy handed on regulation. His policies absolutely dragged the economy. He believed in tax and spend as dems do. Big G at the cost of C & I since you believe in economics supposedly. I'll give him that he didn't completely wreck things like Warren or Sanders would but his entire premise (which you share) is managed decline with the government doing the managing.
When president's parties control Congress and pass major legislation there absolutely are economic ramifications, see tax cuts vs. Obamacare. Sure, there's all kinds of mitigating factors but you like to cherry pick what you do and don't contextualize.
You don’t have to have a decline. Working people still want in and you can incentivize people to have more kids.
Don't tell me tell the dems. Also, maybe just have government get the fuck out of the way.
You’re an open borders advocate? How did the government stop millennials from reproducing?
Massive government overregulation of childcare has made it ultra expensive to have children. Childcare costs more than a mortgage even in ultra expensive locations and doesn't get much cheaper in the boonies. Axe @YellowSnow or @dnc or anyone with young kids. It's a universal problem for my generation.
Wifey's a mostly stay at home madre (she still works 8 hours a week at her old job) so we're not super familiar with the high costs of childcare. It definitely amazes me how much people spend on it though.
And if childcare wasn't so expensive your wife or others in a similar situation might opt to use more of it. That might allow them to make more money. Which obviously impacts working and middle class families the most.
It's pretty crazy out here in California. I ran the ROI and you basically have to make more than $60k+ per parent a year to justify even going to work at all. Nevermind any kind of stress or marginal utility etc. That doesn't sound like a lot but when you consider where median wages are it is. If it wasn't for all of the existing subsidies to lower income households for childcare you'd hear the Left banging the drum on this too. Per usual though their solution would be more government handouts for votes. Never a market based approach to drive down costs to the consumer(bc classic economics right?)
Hilariously, even @BearsWiin is a stay at home dad while arguing that childcare isn't over regulated. Nevermind that he and H have at best a passing familiarity with the industry, the regulations, or what a middle income family deals with, they know the answer already based on their ideology. Childcare providers are just out to squeeze a buck and have no inherent interest in the welfare of children under their care.
I don't have the "inventory" (shout out to @creepycoug since I am using this term moar) to make an informed comment on how regs affect child care costs. I think it's common sense though that an infant room shouldn't have more that 4:1 and 3:1 is preferred.
Up in our neck of the woods, they have to pay about $17 or $18 to start with full medical just to find decent help. The lead teacher in each class is probably making in the low $20s per hour.
Even more common sense that it should be a parent with the kids all day. The consumer of daycare should be able to decide what is best for their family and their particular circumstance. But of course the arrogant elitists know what's best for everyone and their situation.
That ship has sailed sadly for most of us. In my peer group there's hardly any single income, stay at home parent households.
Is it sad? There aren’t really a lot of kids playing in the neighborhood anymore. The kids and their friends are in school, preschool or daycare.
I think it would be a lot easier to run a family unit with 1 parent not working.
Under the presidency of Donald Trump, America has gone from being one-fifth of the world’s economy to one-fourth — in three short years.
Economic events of today’s Trump economy will shape the perceptions of today’s newest Americans:
The economy has added 6 million jobs in the past three years. Unemployment rate dropped to 3.6 percent, the lowest level in 50 years. Economic growth rate is 2.1 percent. The ideal growth rate is between 2-3 percent. Median household income has reached $65,976 – an all-time high and up more than 8 percent in 2019 dollars under the Trump presidency Middle-class incomes, after adjusting for inflation, have surged by $5,003 since Donald Trump became president in January 2017. The poverty rate and food stamp rolls declined 15 percent. Stock prices rose: The S&P 500 index was up 29.8 percent. The number of murders dropped 6.9%. The FBI’s annual crime report, shows violent crime rate dropping 4.6 percent since President Trump took office, reversing an uptick in violent crime that occurred under the last two years of President Barack Obama.
What Cons used to call shitty growth is now celebrated. Some of us pointed out that 2-3% was good back when the black fella was President. But you girls aren’t hypocrites, of course.
The problem is that you can’t be anti-immigrant, have historically low birth rates and labor shortages, and also expect growth to continue in the sweet spot.
Obama averaged under 1% for 8 years
You want to crown his ass then crown it but he was who we said he was
Trump is at 2% and no reason for it not to keep climbing as the deregulation and tax cuts continue their work
Obama didn't do shit and sucked. Get over it
Good economic policy has nothing to do with race unless you're a racist like @HHusky
Obama took office in 2009. The lowest US growth rate thereafter was 1.6% in 2011, which is very close to forecasts of US growth in 2020. And I’ve always given you credit Race: your irrational hatred of Obama is not because he’s black. Can’t say the same about everyone here.
Obama was milquetoast when it came to private sector and heavy handed on regulation. His policies absolutely dragged the economy. He believed in tax and spend as dems do. Big G at the cost of C & I since you believe in economics supposedly. I'll give him that he didn't completely wreck things like Warren or Sanders would but his entire premise (which you share) is managed decline with the government doing the managing.
When president's parties control Congress and pass major legislation there absolutely are economic ramifications, see tax cuts vs. Obamacare. Sure, there's all kinds of mitigating factors but you like to cherry pick what you do and don't contextualize.
You don’t have to have a decline. Working people still want in and you can incentivize people to have more kids.
Don't tell me tell the dems. Also, maybe just have government get the fuck out of the way.
You’re an open borders advocate? How did the government stop millennials from reproducing?
Massive government overregulation of childcare has made it ultra expensive to have children. Childcare costs more than a mortgage even in ultra expensive locations and doesn't get much cheaper in the boonies. Axe @YellowSnow or @dnc or anyone with young kids. It's a universal problem for my generation.
Wifey's a mostly stay at home madre (she still works 8 hours a week at her old job) so we're not super familiar with the high costs of childcare. It definitely amazes me how much people spend on it though.
And if childcare wasn't so expensive your wife or others in a similar situation might opt to use more of it. That might allow them to make more money. Which obviously impacts working and middle class families the most.
It's pretty crazy out here in California. I ran the ROI and you basically have to make more than $60k+ per parent a year to justify even going to work at all. Nevermind any kind of stress or marginal utility etc. That doesn't sound like a lot but when you consider where median wages are it is. If it wasn't for all of the existing subsidies to lower income households for childcare you'd hear the Left banging the drum on this too. Per usual though their solution would be more government handouts for votes. Never a market based approach to drive down costs to the consumer(bc classic economics right?)
Hilariously, even @BearsWiin is a stay at home dad while arguing that childcare isn't over regulated. Nevermind that he and H have at best a passing familiarity with the industry, the regulations, or what a middle income family deals with, they know the answer already based on their ideology. Childcare providers are just out to squeeze a buck and have no inherent interest in the welfare of children under their care.
I don't have the "inventory" (shout out to @creepycoug since I am using this term moar) to make an informed comment on how regs affect child care costs. I think it's common sense though that an infant room shouldn't have more that 4:1 and 3:1 is preferred.
Up in our neck of the woods, they have to pay about $17 or $18 to start with full medical just to find decent help. The lead teacher in each class is probably making in the low $20s per hour.
Even more common sense that it should be a parent with the kids all day. The consumer of daycare should be able to decide what is best for their family and their particular circumstance. But of course the arrogant elitists know what's best for everyone and their situation.
That ship has sailed sadly for most of us. In my peer group there's hardly any single income, stay at home parent households.
Is it sad? There aren’t really a lot of kids playing in the neighborhood anymore. The kids and their friends are in school, preschool or daycare.
I think it would be a lot easier to run a family unit with 1 parent not working.
I loved a lot of things about having small kids, but who would want to be that 1 parent not working?
Under the presidency of Donald Trump, America has gone from being one-fifth of the world’s economy to one-fourth — in three short years.
Economic events of today’s Trump economy will shape the perceptions of today’s newest Americans:
The economy has added 6 million jobs in the past three years. Unemployment rate dropped to 3.6 percent, the lowest level in 50 years. Economic growth rate is 2.1 percent. The ideal growth rate is between 2-3 percent. Median household income has reached $65,976 – an all-time high and up more than 8 percent in 2019 dollars under the Trump presidency Middle-class incomes, after adjusting for inflation, have surged by $5,003 since Donald Trump became president in January 2017. The poverty rate and food stamp rolls declined 15 percent. Stock prices rose: The S&P 500 index was up 29.8 percent. The number of murders dropped 6.9%. The FBI’s annual crime report, shows violent crime rate dropping 4.6 percent since President Trump took office, reversing an uptick in violent crime that occurred under the last two years of President Barack Obama.
What Cons used to call shitty growth is now celebrated. Some of us pointed out that 2-3% was good back when the black fella was President. But you girls aren’t hypocrites, of course.
The problem is that you can’t be anti-immigrant, have historically low birth rates and labor shortages, and also expect growth to continue in the sweet spot.
Obama averaged under 1% for 8 years
You want to crown his ass then crown it but he was who we said he was
Trump is at 2% and no reason for it not to keep climbing as the deregulation and tax cuts continue their work
Obama didn't do shit and sucked. Get over it
Good economic policy has nothing to do with race unless you're a racist like @HHusky
Obama took office in 2009. The lowest US growth rate thereafter was 1.6% in 2011, which is very close to forecasts of US growth in 2020. And I’ve always given you credit Race: your irrational hatred of Obama is not because he’s black. Can’t say the same about everyone here.
Obama was milquetoast when it came to private sector and heavy handed on regulation. His policies absolutely dragged the economy. He believed in tax and spend as dems do. Big G at the cost of C & I since you believe in economics supposedly. I'll give him that he didn't completely wreck things like Warren or Sanders would but his entire premise (which you share) is managed decline with the government doing the managing.
When president's parties control Congress and pass major legislation there absolutely are economic ramifications, see tax cuts vs. Obamacare. Sure, there's all kinds of mitigating factors but you like to cherry pick what you do and don't contextualize.
You don’t have to have a decline. Working people still want in and you can incentivize people to have more kids.
Don't tell me tell the dems. Also, maybe just have government get the fuck out of the way.
You’re an open borders advocate? How did the government stop millennials from reproducing?
Massive government overregulation of childcare has made it ultra expensive to have children. Childcare costs more than a mortgage even in ultra expensive locations and doesn't get much cheaper in the boonies. Axe @YellowSnow or @dnc or anyone with young kids. It's a universal problem for my generation.
Wifey's a mostly stay at home madre (she still works 8 hours a week at her old job) so we're not super familiar with the high costs of childcare. It definitely amazes me how much people spend on it though.
And if childcare wasn't so expensive your wife or others in a similar situation might opt to use more of it. That might allow them to make more money. Which obviously impacts working and middle class families the most.
It's pretty crazy out here in California. I ran the ROI and you basically have to make more than $60k+ per parent a year to justify even going to work at all. Nevermind any kind of stress or marginal utility etc. That doesn't sound like a lot but when you consider where median wages are it is. If it wasn't for all of the existing subsidies to lower income households for childcare you'd hear the Left banging the drum on this too. Per usual though their solution would be more government handouts for votes. Never a market based approach to drive down costs to the consumer(bc classic economics right?)
Hilariously, even @BearsWiin is a stay at home dad while arguing that childcare isn't over regulated. Nevermind that he and H have at best a passing familiarity with the industry, the regulations, or what a middle income family deals with, they know the answer already based on their ideology. Childcare providers are just out to squeeze a buck and have no inherent interest in the welfare of children under their care.
I’m very familiar with the industry. It is regulated. None of you have made a factual case that it is “over regulated”. And child care is fucking expensive, which gets me back to my point that government can craft incentives for people to reproduce. I’m told people respond to incentives.
Sure you are little buddy. Just like you're "very familiar" with economics.
Under the presidency of Donald Trump, America has gone from being one-fifth of the world’s economy to one-fourth — in three short years.
Economic events of today’s Trump economy will shape the perceptions of today’s newest Americans:
The economy has added 6 million jobs in the past three years. Unemployment rate dropped to 3.6 percent, the lowest level in 50 years. Economic growth rate is 2.1 percent. The ideal growth rate is between 2-3 percent. Median household income has reached $65,976 – an all-time high and up more than 8 percent in 2019 dollars under the Trump presidency Middle-class incomes, after adjusting for inflation, have surged by $5,003 since Donald Trump became president in January 2017. The poverty rate and food stamp rolls declined 15 percent. Stock prices rose: The S&P 500 index was up 29.8 percent. The number of murders dropped 6.9%. The FBI’s annual crime report, shows violent crime rate dropping 4.6 percent since President Trump took office, reversing an uptick in violent crime that occurred under the last two years of President Barack Obama.
What Cons used to call shitty growth is now celebrated. Some of us pointed out that 2-3% was good back when the black fella was President. But you girls aren’t hypocrites, of course.
The problem is that you can’t be anti-immigrant, have historically low birth rates and labor shortages, and also expect growth to continue in the sweet spot.
Obama averaged under 1% for 8 years
You want to crown his ass then crown it but he was who we said he was
Trump is at 2% and no reason for it not to keep climbing as the deregulation and tax cuts continue their work
Obama didn't do shit and sucked. Get over it
Good economic policy has nothing to do with race unless you're a racist like @HHusky
Obama took office in 2009. The lowest US growth rate thereafter was 1.6% in 2011, which is very close to forecasts of US growth in 2020. And I’ve always given you credit Race: your irrational hatred of Obama is not because he’s black. Can’t say the same about everyone here.
Obama was milquetoast when it came to private sector and heavy handed on regulation. His policies absolutely dragged the economy. He believed in tax and spend as dems do. Big G at the cost of C & I since you believe in economics supposedly. I'll give him that he didn't completely wreck things like Warren or Sanders would but his entire premise (which you share) is managed decline with the government doing the managing.
When president's parties control Congress and pass major legislation there absolutely are economic ramifications, see tax cuts vs. Obamacare. Sure, there's all kinds of mitigating factors but you like to cherry pick what you do and don't contextualize.
You don’t have to have a decline. Working people still want in and you can incentivize people to have more kids.
Don't tell me tell the dems. Also, maybe just have government get the fuck out of the way.
You’re an open borders advocate? How did the government stop millennials from reproducing?
Massive government overregulation of childcare has made it ultra expensive to have children. Childcare costs more than a mortgage even in ultra expensive locations and doesn't get much cheaper in the boonies. Axe @YellowSnow or @dnc or anyone with young kids. It's a universal problem for my generation.
Wifey's a mostly stay at home madre (she still works 8 hours a week at her old job) so we're not super familiar with the high costs of childcare. It definitely amazes me how much people spend on it though.
And if childcare wasn't so expensive your wife or others in a similar situation might opt to use more of it. That might allow them to make more money. Which obviously impacts working and middle class families the most.
It's pretty crazy out here in California. I ran the ROI and you basically have to make more than $60k+ per parent a year to justify even going to work at all. Nevermind any kind of stress or marginal utility etc. That doesn't sound like a lot but when you consider where median wages are it is. If it wasn't for all of the existing subsidies to lower income households for childcare you'd hear the Left banging the drum on this too. Per usual though their solution would be more government handouts for votes. Never a market based approach to drive down costs to the consumer(bc classic economics right?)
Hilariously, even @BearsWiin is a stay at home dad while arguing that childcare isn't over regulated. Nevermind that he and H have at best a passing familiarity with the industry, the regulations, or what a middle income family deals with, they know the answer already based on their ideology. Childcare providers are just out to squeeze a buck and have no inherent interest in the welfare of children under their care.
I’m very familiar with the industry. It is regulated. None of you have made a factual case that it is “over regulated”. And child care is fucking expensive, which gets me back to my point that government can craft incentives for people to reproduce. I’m told people respond to incentives.
Sure you are little buddy. Just like you're "very familiar" with economics.
Under the presidency of Donald Trump, America has gone from being one-fifth of the world’s economy to one-fourth — in three short years.
Economic events of today’s Trump economy will shape the perceptions of today’s newest Americans:
The economy has added 6 million jobs in the past three years. Unemployment rate dropped to 3.6 percent, the lowest level in 50 years. Economic growth rate is 2.1 percent. The ideal growth rate is between 2-3 percent. Median household income has reached $65,976 – an all-time high and up more than 8 percent in 2019 dollars under the Trump presidency Middle-class incomes, after adjusting for inflation, have surged by $5,003 since Donald Trump became president in January 2017. The poverty rate and food stamp rolls declined 15 percent. Stock prices rose: The S&P 500 index was up 29.8 percent. The number of murders dropped 6.9%. The FBI’s annual crime report, shows violent crime rate dropping 4.6 percent since President Trump took office, reversing an uptick in violent crime that occurred under the last two years of President Barack Obama.
What Cons used to call shitty growth is now celebrated. Some of us pointed out that 2-3% was good back when the black fella was President. But you girls aren’t hypocrites, of course.
The problem is that you can’t be anti-immigrant, have historically low birth rates and labor shortages, and also expect growth to continue in the sweet spot.
Obama averaged under 1% for 8 years
You want to crown his ass then crown it but he was who we said he was
Trump is at 2% and no reason for it not to keep climbing as the deregulation and tax cuts continue their work
Obama didn't do shit and sucked. Get over it
Good economic policy has nothing to do with race unless you're a racist like @HHusky
Obama took office in 2009. The lowest US growth rate thereafter was 1.6% in 2011, which is very close to forecasts of US growth in 2020. And I’ve always given you credit Race: your irrational hatred of Obama is not because he’s black. Can’t say the same about everyone here.
Obama was milquetoast when it came to private sector and heavy handed on regulation. His policies absolutely dragged the economy. He believed in tax and spend as dems do. Big G at the cost of C & I since you believe in economics supposedly. I'll give him that he didn't completely wreck things like Warren or Sanders would but his entire premise (which you share) is managed decline with the government doing the managing.
When president's parties control Congress and pass major legislation there absolutely are economic ramifications, see tax cuts vs. Obamacare. Sure, there's all kinds of mitigating factors but you like to cherry pick what you do and don't contextualize.
You don’t have to have a decline. Working people still want in and you can incentivize people to have more kids.
Don't tell me tell the dems. Also, maybe just have government get the fuck out of the way.
You’re an open borders advocate? How did the government stop millennials from reproducing?
Massive government overregulation of childcare has made it ultra expensive to have children. Childcare costs more than a mortgage even in ultra expensive locations and doesn't get much cheaper in the boonies. Axe @YellowSnow or @dnc or anyone with young kids. It's a universal problem for my generation.
Wifey's a mostly stay at home madre (she still works 8 hours a week at her old job) so we're not super familiar with the high costs of childcare. It definitely amazes me how much people spend on it though.
And if childcare wasn't so expensive your wife or others in a similar situation might opt to use more of it. That might allow them to make more money. Which obviously impacts working and middle class families the most.
It's pretty crazy out here in California. I ran the ROI and you basically have to make more than $60k+ per parent a year to justify even going to work at all. Nevermind any kind of stress or marginal utility etc. That doesn't sound like a lot but when you consider where median wages are it is. If it wasn't for all of the existing subsidies to lower income households for childcare you'd hear the Left banging the drum on this too. Per usual though their solution would be more government handouts for votes. Never a market based approach to drive down costs to the consumer(bc classic economics right?)
Hilariously, even @BearsWiin is a stay at home dad while arguing that childcare isn't over regulated. Nevermind that he and H have at best a passing familiarity with the industry, the regulations, or what a middle income family deals with, they know the answer already based on their ideology. Childcare providers are just out to squeeze a buck and have no inherent interest in the welfare of children under their care.
I’m very familiar with the industry. It is regulated. None of you have made a factual case that it is “over regulated”. And child care is fucking expensive, which gets me back to my point that government can craft incentives for people to reproduce. I’m told people respond to incentives.
Sure you are little buddy. Just like you're "very familiar" with economics.
Cuz how could a parent, uncle and business lawyer possibly know anything about the childcare industry?
You still haven’t supported the “over regulation” claim. We noticed.
My mother was a college graduate who went to graduate school in Detroit to learn how to be a mom
And she was damn good at it.
When we grew up she went back to UW and became a librarian. My dad left. Back then "no wife of mine is going to work" was a thing
So we don't need to go back to that but plenty of women would like the option to stay home. And some men. NTTIAWWT
I remember when daycare started. Naturally the left, who ruins everything, said its fine - let the state raise your kid. China does. What could go wrong?
My mother was a college graduate who went to graduate school in Detroit to learn how to be a mom
And she was damn good at it.
When we grew up she went back to UW and became a librarian. My dad left. Back then "no wife of mine is going to work" was a thing
So we don't need to go back to that but plenty of women would like the option to stay home. And some men. NTTIAWWT
I remember when daycare started. Naturally the left, who ruins everything, said its fine - let the state raise your kid. China does. What could go wrong?
The state isn’t operating the day cares we’ve been discussing.
Under the presidency of Donald Trump, America has gone from being one-fifth of the world’s economy to one-fourth — in three short years.
Economic events of today’s Trump economy will shape the perceptions of today’s newest Americans:
The economy has added 6 million jobs in the past three years. Unemployment rate dropped to 3.6 percent, the lowest level in 50 years. Economic growth rate is 2.1 percent. The ideal growth rate is between 2-3 percent. Median household income has reached $65,976 – an all-time high and up more than 8 percent in 2019 dollars under the Trump presidency Middle-class incomes, after adjusting for inflation, have surged by $5,003 since Donald Trump became president in January 2017. The poverty rate and food stamp rolls declined 15 percent. Stock prices rose: The S&P 500 index was up 29.8 percent. The number of murders dropped 6.9%. The FBI’s annual crime report, shows violent crime rate dropping 4.6 percent since President Trump took office, reversing an uptick in violent crime that occurred under the last two years of President Barack Obama.
What Cons used to call shitty growth is now celebrated. Some of us pointed out that 2-3% was good back when the black fella was President. But you girls aren’t hypocrites, of course.
The problem is that you can’t be anti-immigrant, have historically low birth rates and labor shortages, and also expect growth to continue in the sweet spot.
Obama averaged under 1% for 8 years
You want to crown his ass then crown it but he was who we said he was
Trump is at 2% and no reason for it not to keep climbing as the deregulation and tax cuts continue their work
Obama didn't do shit and sucked. Get over it
Good economic policy has nothing to do with race unless you're a racist like @HHusky
Obama took office in 2009. The lowest US growth rate thereafter was 1.6% in 2011, which is very close to forecasts of US growth in 2020. And I’ve always given you credit Race: your irrational hatred of Obama is not because he’s black. Can’t say the same about everyone here.
Obama was milquetoast when it came to private sector and heavy handed on regulation. His policies absolutely dragged the economy. He believed in tax and spend as dems do. Big G at the cost of C & I since you believe in economics supposedly. I'll give him that he didn't completely wreck things like Warren or Sanders would but his entire premise (which you share) is managed decline with the government doing the managing.
When president's parties control Congress and pass major legislation there absolutely are economic ramifications, see tax cuts vs. Obamacare. Sure, there's all kinds of mitigating factors but you like to cherry pick what you do and don't contextualize.
You don’t have to have a decline. Working people still want in and you can incentivize people to have more kids.
Don't tell me tell the dems. Also, maybe just have government get the fuck out of the way.
You’re an open borders advocate? How did the government stop millennials from reproducing?
Massive government overregulation of childcare has made it ultra expensive to have children. Childcare costs more than a mortgage even in ultra expensive locations and doesn't get much cheaper in the boonies. Axe @YellowSnow or @dnc or anyone with young kids. It's a universal problem for my generation.
Wifey's a mostly stay at home madre (she still works 8 hours a week at her old job) so we're not super familiar with the high costs of childcare. It definitely amazes me how much people spend on it though.
And if childcare wasn't so expensive your wife or others in a similar situation might opt to use more of it. That might allow them to make more money. Which obviously impacts working and middle class families the most.
It's pretty crazy out here in California. I ran the ROI and you basically have to make more than $60k+ per parent a year to justify even going to work at all. Nevermind any kind of stress or marginal utility etc. That doesn't sound like a lot but when you consider where median wages are it is. If it wasn't for all of the existing subsidies to lower income households for childcare you'd hear the Left banging the drum on this too. Per usual though their solution would be more government handouts for votes. Never a market based approach to drive down costs to the consumer(bc classic economics right?)
Hilariously, even @BearsWiin is a stay at home dad while arguing that childcare isn't over regulated. Nevermind that he and H have at best a passing familiarity with the industry, the regulations, or what a middle income family deals with, they know the answer already based on their ideology. Childcare providers are just out to squeeze a buck and have no inherent interest in the welfare of children under their care.
I’m very familiar with the industry. It is regulated. None of you have made a factual case that it is “over regulated”. And child care is fucking expensive, which gets me back to my point that government can craft incentives for people to reproduce. I’m told people respond to incentives.
Sure you are little buddy. Just like you're "very familiar" with economics.
Cuz how could a parent, uncle and business lawyer possibly know anything about the childcare industry?
You still haven’t supported the “over regulation” claim. We noticed.
In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people assess their cognitive ability as greater than it is. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their lack of ability. Without the self-awareness of metacognition, people cannot objectively evaluate their competence or incompetence.[1]
As described by social psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, the cognitive bias of illusory superiority results from an internal illusion in people of low ability and from an external misperception in people of high ability; that is, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others."[1]
We've all noticed that you don't change your mind even given evidence to the contrary. Deflect, move goal posts, shift the argument, etc.
My mother was a college graduate who went to graduate school in Detroit to learn how to be a mom
And she was damn good at it.
When we grew up she went back to UW and became a librarian. My dad left. Back then "no wife of mine is going to work" was a thing
So we don't need to go back to that but plenty of women would like the option to stay home. And some men. NTTIAWWT
I remember when daycare started. Naturally the left, who ruins everything, said its fine - let the state raise your kid. China does. What could go wrong?
The state isn’t operating the day cares we’ve been discussing.
Regulation is running the center
And the state is running the schools they attend earlier in the day
The less time with the parents the better comrade.
Under the presidency of Donald Trump, America has gone from being one-fifth of the world’s economy to one-fourth — in three short years.
Economic events of today’s Trump economy will shape the perceptions of today’s newest Americans:
The economy has added 6 million jobs in the past three years. Unemployment rate dropped to 3.6 percent, the lowest level in 50 years. Economic growth rate is 2.1 percent. The ideal growth rate is between 2-3 percent. Median household income has reached $65,976 – an all-time high and up more than 8 percent in 2019 dollars under the Trump presidency Middle-class incomes, after adjusting for inflation, have surged by $5,003 since Donald Trump became president in January 2017. The poverty rate and food stamp rolls declined 15 percent. Stock prices rose: The S&P 500 index was up 29.8 percent. The number of murders dropped 6.9%. The FBI’s annual crime report, shows violent crime rate dropping 4.6 percent since President Trump took office, reversing an uptick in violent crime that occurred under the last two years of President Barack Obama.
What Cons used to call shitty growth is now celebrated. Some of us pointed out that 2-3% was good back when the black fella was President. But you girls aren’t hypocrites, of course.
The problem is that you can’t be anti-immigrant, have historically low birth rates and labor shortages, and also expect growth to continue in the sweet spot.
Obama averaged under 1% for 8 years
You want to crown his ass then crown it but he was who we said he was
Trump is at 2% and no reason for it not to keep climbing as the deregulation and tax cuts continue their work
Obama didn't do shit and sucked. Get over it
Good economic policy has nothing to do with race unless you're a racist like @HHusky
Obama took office in 2009. The lowest US growth rate thereafter was 1.6% in 2011, which is very close to forecasts of US growth in 2020. And I’ve always given you credit Race: your irrational hatred of Obama is not because he’s black. Can’t say the same about everyone here.
Obama was milquetoast when it came to private sector and heavy handed on regulation. His policies absolutely dragged the economy. He believed in tax and spend as dems do. Big G at the cost of C & I since you believe in economics supposedly. I'll give him that he didn't completely wreck things like Warren or Sanders would but his entire premise (which you share) is managed decline with the government doing the managing.
When president's parties control Congress and pass major legislation there absolutely are economic ramifications, see tax cuts vs. Obamacare. Sure, there's all kinds of mitigating factors but you like to cherry pick what you do and don't contextualize.
You don’t have to have a decline. Working people still want in and you can incentivize people to have more kids.
Don't tell me tell the dems. Also, maybe just have government get the fuck out of the way.
You’re an open borders advocate? How did the government stop millennials from reproducing?
Massive government overregulation of childcare has made it ultra expensive to have children. Childcare costs more than a mortgage even in ultra expensive locations and doesn't get much cheaper in the boonies. Axe @YellowSnow or @dnc or anyone with young kids. It's a universal problem for my generation.
Wifey's a mostly stay at home madre (she still works 8 hours a week at her old job) so we're not super familiar with the high costs of childcare. It definitely amazes me how much people spend on it though.
And if childcare wasn't so expensive your wife or others in a similar situation might opt to use more of it. That might allow them to make more money. Which obviously impacts working and middle class families the most.
It's pretty crazy out here in California. I ran the ROI and you basically have to make more than $60k+ per parent a year to justify even going to work at all. Nevermind any kind of stress or marginal utility etc. That doesn't sound like a lot but when you consider where median wages are it is. If it wasn't for all of the existing subsidies to lower income households for childcare you'd hear the Left banging the drum on this too. Per usual though their solution would be more government handouts for votes. Never a market based approach to drive down costs to the consumer(bc classic economics right?)
Hilariously, even @BearsWiin is a stay at home dad while arguing that childcare isn't over regulated. Nevermind that he and H have at best a passing familiarity with the industry, the regulations, or what a middle income family deals with, they know the answer already based on their ideology. Childcare providers are just out to squeeze a buck and have no inherent interest in the welfare of children under their care.
I don't have the "inventory" (shout out to @creepycoug since I am using this term moar) to make an informed comment on how regs affect child care costs. I think it's common sense though that an infant room shouldn't have more that 4:1 and 3:1 is preferred.
Up in our neck of the woods, they have to pay about $17 or $18 to start with full medical just to find decent help. The lead teacher in each class is probably making in the low $20s per hour.
Even more common sense that it should be a parent with the kids all day. The consumer of daycare should be able to decide what is best for their family and their particular circumstance. But of course the arrogant elitists know what's best for everyone and their situation.
That ship has sailed sadly for most of us. In my peer group there's hardly any single income, stay at home parent households.
Is it sad? There aren’t really a lot of kids playing in the neighborhood anymore. The kids and their friends are in school, preschool or daycare.
I think it would be a lot easier to run a family unit with 1 parent not working.
It's even easier to have 1 parent not working and have daycare. Alas, we are working stiffs @YellowSnow without that kind of splash cash.
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The economy has added 6 million jobs in the past three years. Unemployment rate dropped to 3.6 percent, the lowest level in 50 years. Economic growth rate is 2.1 percent. The ideal growth rate is between 2-3 percent. Median household income has reached $65,976 – an all-time high and up more than 8 percent in 2019 dollars under the Trump presidency Middle-class incomes, after adjusting for inflation, have surged by $5,003 since Donald Trump became president in January 2017. The poverty rate and food stamp rolls declined 15 percent. Stock prices rose: The S&P 500 index was up 29.8 percent. The number of murders dropped 6.9%. The FBI’s annual crime report, shows violent crime rate dropping 4.6 percent since President Trump took office, reversing an uptick in violent crime that occurred under the last two years of President Barack Obama.
What Cons used to call shitty growth is now celebrated. Some of us pointed out that 2-3% was good back when the black fella was President. But you girls aren’t hypocrites, of course.
The problem is that you can’t be anti-immigrant, have historically low birth rates and labor shortages, and also expect growth to continue in the sweet spot.
Obama averaged under 1% for 8 years
You want to crown his ass then crown it but he was who we said he was
Trump is at 2% and no reason for it not to keep climbing as the deregulation and tax cuts continue their work
Obama didn't do shit and sucked. Get over it
Good economic policy has nothing to do with race unless you're a racist like @HHusky
Obama took office in 2009. The lowest US growth rate thereafter was 1.6% in 2011, which is very close to forecasts of US growth in 2020. And I’ve always given you credit Race: your irrational hatred of Obama is not because he’s black. Can’t say the same about everyone here.
Obama was milquetoast when it came to private sector and heavy handed on regulation. His policies absolutely dragged the economy. He believed in tax and spend as dems do. Big G at the cost of C & I since you believe in economics supposedly. I'll give him that he didn't completely wreck things like Warren or Sanders would but his entire premise (which you share) is managed decline with the government doing the managing.
When president's parties control Congress and pass major legislation there absolutely are economic ramifications, see tax cuts vs. Obamacare. Sure, there's all kinds of mitigating factors but you like to cherry pick what you do and don't contextualize.
You don’t have to have a decline. Working people still want in and you can incentivize people to have more kids.
Don't tell me tell the dems. Also, maybe just have government get the fuck out of the way.
You’re an open borders advocate? How did the government stop millennials from reproducing?
Massive government overregulation of childcare has made it ultra expensive to have children. Childcare costs more than a mortgage even in ultra expensive locations and doesn't get much cheaper in the boonies. Axe @YellowSnow or @dnc or anyone with young kids. It's a universal problem for my generation.
Wifey's a mostly stay at home madre (she still works 8 hours a week at her old job) so we're not super familiar with the high costs of childcare. It definitely amazes me how much people spend on it though.
And if childcare wasn't so expensive your wife or others in a similar situation might opt to use more of it. That might allow them to make more money. Which obviously impacts working and middle class families the most.
It's pretty crazy out here in California. I ran the ROI and you basically have to make more than $60k+ per parent a year to justify even going to work at all. Nevermind any kind of stress or marginal utility etc. That doesn't sound like a lot but when you consider where median wages are it is. If it wasn't for all of the existing subsidies to lower income households for childcare you'd hear the Left banging the drum on this too. Per usual though their solution would be more government handouts for votes. Never a market based approach to drive down costs to the consumer(bc classic economics right?)
Hilariously, even @BearsWiin is a stay at home dad while arguing that childcare isn't over regulated. Nevermind that he and H have at best a passing familiarity with the industry, the regulations, or what a middle income family deals with, they know the answer already based on their ideology. Childcare providers are just out to squeeze a buck and have no inherent interest in the welfare of children under their care.
I’m very familiar with the industry. It is regulated. None of you have made a factual case that it is “over regulated”. And child care is fucking expensive, which gets me back to my point that government can craft incentives for people to reproduce. I’m told people respond to incentives.
Sure you are little buddy. Just like you're "very familiar" with economics.
Cuz how could a parent, uncle and business lawyer possibly know anything about the childcare industry?
You still haven’t supported the “over regulation” claim. We noticed.
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As described by social psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, the cognitive bias of illusory superiority results from an internal illusion in people of low ability and from an external misperception in people of high ability; that is, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others."[1]
We've all noticed that you don't change your mind even given evidence to the contrary. Deflect, move goal posts, shift the argument, etc.
Weird how you will spend hours explaining why providing a piece of evidence would be a waste of your time.
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You ok man?
That was almost @dnc -level of bullying.
I'm telling someone.
You still haven’t supported the “over regulation” claim. We noticed.
And she was damn good at it.
When we grew up she went back to UW and became a librarian. My dad left. Back then "no wife of mine is going to work" was a thing
So we don't need to go back to that but plenty of women would like the option to stay home. And some men. NTTIAWWT
I remember when daycare started. Naturally the left, who ruins everything, said its fine - let the state raise your kid. China does. What could go wrong?
As described by social psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, the cognitive bias of illusory superiority results from an internal illusion in people of low ability and from an external misperception in people of high ability; that is, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others."[1]
We've all noticed that you don't change your mind even given evidence to the contrary. Deflect, move goal posts, shift the argument, etc.
And the state is running the schools they attend earlier in the day
The less time with the parents the better comrade.