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YellowSnow
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My kindergartner starts transgender studies next week. According to Seattle Public Schools, kids by the age of 5 or 6 can have sorted out their preferred gender identity. And as a result, their classmates - who are just learning how to read and write mind you - need to learn the proper pronouns to use.
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  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,506
    Such bullshit. CD, what are your preferred pronouns?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,895

    My kindergartner starts transgender studies next week. According to Seattle Public Schools, kids by the age of 5 or 6 can have sorted out their preferred gender identity. And as a result, their classmates - who are just learning how to read and write mind you - need to learn the proper pronouns to use.

    Are you going to push back?
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Such bullshit. CD, what are your preferred pronouns?

    My kids go to private school.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,895

    HHusky said:

    My kindergartner starts transgender studies next week. According to Seattle Public Schools, kids by the age of 5 or 6 can have sorted out their preferred gender identity. And as a result, their classmates - who are just learning how to read and write mind you - need to learn the proper pronouns to use.

    Are you going to push back?
    I might. I'm struggling with the response, however. Look, all I care about at this age is that my kid is a good human and treats hit classmates with respect. Follow the Golden Rule. But how the fuck is a 5.5 year old supposed to start processing transgender issues? Fucking Christ...
    Totally agree.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    HHusky said:

    My kindergartner starts transgender studies next week. According to Seattle Public Schools, kids by the age of 5 or 6 can have sorted out their preferred gender identity. And as a result, their classmates - who are just learning how to read and write mind you - need to learn the proper pronouns to use.

    Are you going to push back?
    I might. I'm struggling with the response, however. Look, all I care about at this age is that my kid is a good human and treats hit classmates with respect. Follow the Golden Rule. But how the fuck is a 5.5 year old supposed to start processing transgender issues? Fucking Christ...
    Part of being a good human and treating others with respect is learning about differences.

    I don't get the worry here. Are you concerned your son will want to be be trans because he learns about it in school?
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    Will they be learning all 76 genders? If not it's just regressive and bigoted education.


    We are having the same stupid shit rolled out here. The kids might be staying in Montessori for a bit longer than we had originally planned.

    I'm glad we can find space in the pedagogy for these topics as early as Kindergarten but still don't require basic financial or economic literacy as part of a public education all the way through high school graduation.
    The longer they stay in Montesorri, they longer it will take them to catch up if/when they go to a more traditional school.

    Totally agree about your personal finance/economics poont.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    HHusky said:

    My kindergartner starts transgender studies next week. According to Seattle Public Schools, kids by the age of 5 or 6 can have sorted out their preferred gender identity. And as a result, their classmates - who are just learning how to read and write mind you - need to learn the proper pronouns to use.

    Are you going to push back?
    I might. I'm struggling with the response, however. Look, all I care about at this age is that my kid is a good human and treats hit classmates with respect. Follow the Golden Rule. But how the fuck is a 5.5 year old supposed to start processing transgender issues? Fucking Christ...
    Part of being a good human and treating others with respect is learning about differences.

    I don't get the worry here. Are you concerned your son will want to be be trans because he learns about it in school?
    No, I'm not worried about my kid wanting to be trans and I'm not pulling my kid from class that day. My family respects differences just fine (e.g., be a best man at a same sex wedding -before it was legal - and then pop off). But my objection is the age they are trying to teach this shit to kids. They're fucking 5 or 6 depending - how are they supposed to process this information?
    Holy crap. It's only part of the curriculum for one day? I don't get the pearl clutching.

    We spent months on the metric system in elementary school.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,053 Founders Club

    Will they be learning all 76 genders? If not it's just regressive and bigoted education.


    We are having the same stupid shit rolled out here. The kids might be staying in Montessori for a bit longer than we had originally planned.

    I'm glad we can find space in the pedagogy for these topics as early as Kindergarten but still don't require basic financial or economic literacy as part of a public education all the way through high school graduation.
    The longer they stay in Montesorri, they longer it will take them to catch up if/when they go to a more traditional school.

    Totally agree about your personal finance/economics poont.
    My wife specializes in child development and education. She's got binders for each of our kids for their development. My kids are way ahead of every metric except size. If anything, I worry about them being bored and acting out in a traditional school where they don't have mixed age education and where the standards have been lowered. Don't confuse Montessori with Waldorf. That's a totally different monster.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,895
    My kids are in their twenties and I never ran into this preferred pronoun question until the youngest of them was entering college four years ago. Yet my kids and their generation appear to have picked all of this stuff up on the fly, simply through ordinary socialization. (They all think I'm so not woke for being confused by the pronoun thing and wanting to know "what" their friend is.)
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,701 Standard Supporter

    My kindergartner starts transgender studies next week. According to Seattle Public Schools, kids by the age of 5 or 6 can have sorted out their preferred gender identity. And as a result, their classmates - who are just learning how to read and write mind you - need to learn the proper pronouns to use.

    Pull the kid or be sick those days. Fuck that shit!
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Swaye said:

    Seattle is lost. Has been for a long tim.

    The hinterlands of Virginia and North Carolina (before it’s imminent loss too) is where trump can spark the needed rejuvenation.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,895

    HHusky said:

    My kindergartner starts transgender studies next week. According to Seattle Public Schools, kids by the age of 5 or 6 can have sorted out their preferred gender identity. And as a result, their classmates - who are just learning how to read and write mind you - need to learn the proper pronouns to use.

    Are you going to push back?
    I might. I'm struggling with the response, however. Look, all I care about at this age is that my kid is a good human and treats hit classmates with respect. Follow the Golden Rule. But how the fuck is a 5.5 year old supposed to start processing transgender issues? Fucking Christ...
    Part of being a good human and treating others with respect is learning about differences.

    I don't get the worry here. Are you concerned your son will want to be be trans because he learns about it in school?
    No, I'm not worried about my kid wanting to be trans and I'm not pulling my kid from class that day. My family respects differences just fine (e.g., be a best man at a same sex wedding -before it was legal - and then pop off). But my objection is the age they are trying to teach this shit to kids. They're fucking 5 or 6 depending - how are they supposed to process this information?
    Holy crap. It's only part of the curriculum for one day? I don't get the pearl clutching.

    We spent months on the metric system in elementary school.
    It may be harmless, but one day isn't going to accomplish anything either. Meanwhile, it just creates another opportunity to bash public education that amounts to an unforced error.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,701 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    HHusky said:

    My kindergartner starts transgender studies next week. According to Seattle Public Schools, kids by the age of 5 or 6 can have sorted out their preferred gender identity. And as a result, their classmates - who are just learning how to read and write mind you - need to learn the proper pronouns to use.

    Are you going to push back?
    I might. I'm struggling with the response, however. Look, all I care about at this age is that my kid is a good human and treats hit classmates with respect. Follow the Golden Rule. But how the fuck is a 5.5 year old supposed to start processing transgender issues? Fucking Christ...
    Part of being a good human and treating others with respect is learning about differences.

    I don't get the worry here. Are you concerned your son will want to be be trans because he learns about it in school?
    No, I'm not worried about my kid wanting to be trans and I'm not pulling my kid from class that day. My family respects differences just fine (e.g., be a best man at a same sex wedding -before it was legal - and then pop off). But my objection is the age they are trying to teach this shit to kids. They're fucking 5 or 6 depending - how are they supposed to process this information?
    Holy crap. It's only part of the curriculum for one day? I don't get the pearl clutching.

    We spent months on the metric system in elementary school.
    Again: what is the point of this curriculum at age 5/6? I don't get its importance at this point in a child's development.
    It isn't important. It is another chance for the liberal education elites to pat themselves on the back and virtue signal to all their low rent liberal retard friends who make 50K a year about how woke they are. The CirrhosisBros love this shit.
    Personally I think it's just another way to weaken, divide and destroy the moral and social fabric of our nation. We are dealing with one worlders who wish to dissolve our country by any means necessary.

  • Dugdawg
    Dugdawg Member Posts: 308
    I have recently received several business emails with a line below the signature that says "Pronouns: She, Her, Hers".....(or similar). Helpful I guess? I was just thankful that (we) are still using pronouns I recognize.

    It's a brave new world
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    edited December 2019
    Its not just Seattle...had a relative who had to deal with something similar in the Midwest. They hired 2 transgendered teachers, one of which was a kindergarten teacher, and then put the entire kindergarten class through some sort of day-long transgender awareness training thing without telling the parents until afterwards. Needless to say the parents weren't real happy...

    Texas seems to be safe so far, but we'll see how long that lasts...
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,895
    Dugdawg said:

    I have recently received several business emails with a line below the signature that says "Pronouns: She, Her, Hers".....(or similar). Helpful I guess? I was just thankful that (we) are still using pronouns I recognize.

    It's a brave new world

    I don't want to give unintended offense--my offensiveness is usually intended. But I'm not nimble enough with grammar to live in this world.
  • Postal91
    Postal91 Member Posts: 1,895

    HHusky said:

    My kindergartner starts transgender studies next week. According to Seattle Public Schools, kids by the age of 5 or 6 can have sorted out their preferred gender identity. And as a result, their classmates - who are just learning how to read and write mind you - need to learn the proper pronouns to use.

    Are you going to push back?
    I might. I'm struggling with the response, however. Look, all I care about at this age is that my kid is a good human and treats hit classmates with respect. Follow the Golden Rule. But how the fuck is a 5.5 year old supposed to start processing transgender issues? Fucking Christ...
    This is my biggest fear currently... how are the schools going to teach my kids. YellowSnow, my kids would be out of there. We, as parents, certainly are responsible for raising our children but when it comes to a school providing poor education to my kids 7-8 hours a day, they are out of there. Transgender Studies, that's bull shit. It should be bundled in to Psychology and mental illness, which I don't remember taking until I was in college and possibly a chapter in HS. Did that change how I treated people, hell no, but it certainly spared me from putting irrational and unnecessary doubt in my head (and fellow students) that could lead me to a suicide attempt rate of 40%.

    If you don't fight, nobody will, and they will push their agenda on our poor children and do their best to shape them how they desire, not how a traditional childhood development should be.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,053 Founders Club

    HHusky said:

    My kindergartner starts transgender studies next week. According to Seattle Public Schools, kids by the age of 5 or 6 can have sorted out their preferred gender identity. And as a result, their classmates - who are just learning how to read and write mind you - need to learn the proper pronouns to use.

    Are you going to push back?
    I might. I'm struggling with the response, however. Look, all I care about at this age is that my kid is a good human and treats hit classmates with respect. Follow the Golden Rule. But how the fuck is a 5.5 year old supposed to start processing transgender issues? Fucking Christ...
    My only advice is that it's a golden opportunity for the kids to learn to question authority and that not everything they are taught in school is factual.