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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    2001400ex said:

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    I think some of the dumb cunts posting on this thread would change their tune drastically if their daughter was Kate Steinle.

    For the record, OBK, I don’t consider you to be a racist or a fascist. Rather, you’re just very Japanese is all.

    I just love that there is an endless supply of Donald Duck Nazi gifs on the internet. It’s the gift that keeps giving.
    Bullshit. Our friendship may now be in jeopardy. He's racist af.

    Let me post this again, but for your benefit. Lots of lessons to be learned here rowboat:


    I don’t think in 3 years here I’ve ever accused someone of being racist. I suppose in the current moral panic where everyone is accusing everyone of racism, I’m reluctant to do so.
    Oh come on.

    When someone serves it to you on a plate, you needn't worry that you'll be accused of playing loose with the race card. I can count on one finger the number of times I've seen @MikeDamone use it. That's how easy our local David Duke has made it for you.

    [Youcanactlikeaman.gif]
    Just not my style ese.
    Diappointing.

    I mistook you for a man of principle. It would be but a millimeter journey from what he's written for him to tell you he's a racist.

    Style's got nothing to do with it. Principle and character. Principle and character.

    I once told someone I know a guy who, had he been born in another time, would have rowed with the boys of '36. I have to take that back now.

    Sad. Sad, really.
    @creepycoug , so here’s an honest and open ended philosopher king question for you...

    So Merriam - Webster defines racism as follows:

    Definition of racism
    1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

    Obviously, most nativist movements through out our nation’s history have been driven people who were racist. But we’re in a unique place because we are a nation built on creed and not tribe. People can become “American” in very short order

    Earlier in the thread I said OBK is Japanese in his outlook. Japan is the most homogeneous nation on earth. Many Japanese are notoriously racist but I suspect there are many who aren’t - ie they don’t think their tribe is superior to others per se. But what if these folks simply want keep Japan all Japanese for the sake of the cultural cohesion aspect. What of Spaniards who want to keep Spain most Spanish in character? Are all these people racist? It’s an honest question and I don’t know that I know the answer.
    apples and oranges and a touch of a red herring. OBK believes other races are inferior to whites. That’s the discussion.
    Sure, if OBK thinks other races are inferior to whites then he’s a racist. But if Swede’s are caoncerned about their country ceasing to be Swedish in 50 years I don’t know that this qualifies as racism.
    He thinks other races are inferior to whites. You must not have been following along.

    That’s the whole point.
    You're a lying piece of shit, I never said anything of the sort, and you like to engage in the same sort of leftist smear tactics you pretend to oppose. You started acting likepussy after the Soros Coin thread I started calling you out on your open borders stance.
    Fuck off. You said it many times. Eat shit

    You have no clue on my boarder opinion. You made a bunch of assumptions and starting acting like a fucking monkey.
    Point proved, it pissed you off, and you started acting like a shit eating leftist throwing around the word racist until it lost all meaning.
    You’re a racist. It has meaning when applied to you. Idiot.
    You're a lying piece of shit. This has already been documented. You denied supporting open borders multiple times, yet your own words in a thread from a year ago outed you. What else are you lying about, besides this?
    I’ve never denied being open borders. Dip shit. Ever.
    You lied about it multiple times, liar.
    Find the quote. Liar. Racist fuck.
    Find the quote that shows I'm an actual 'racist.' Lying piece of shit.
    There's many quotes. But the one where your said you wanted whites to be the majority in America is the top of the list.
    How exactly is that statement racist? And btw, you're also a lying piece of shit if you try to pretend you wouldn't prefer your own race to be the majority. Everyone does. Except for @RaceBannon. He's not a hypocrite at all.
    Do you believe white Europeans are superior to any other race? Yes or no
    Find the quote where I ever once said this, lying piece of shit. You point blank made the statement that I said this, and haven't backed it up with any proof.
    I’m asking you right now. Do you believe that. Yes or no?
    You have already said that I do. Which was a lie. Show the proof or admit you're a liar.
    So you won’t answer. Got it. And we know why you won’t.
    You already 'answered' for me, by claiming I said other races are inferior to whites. I told you to prove it or admit that you're a liar. You can't do either, because in addition to being a liar, you're also a cowardly piece of shit who is incapable of admitting when he is wrong.
    I said you think other races are inferior whites. Because you do. Racist old fool.

    You also won’t answer the simple question though.
    It's simple, admit you're a lying piece of shit, smear peddler who claimed I said something I didn't, and I'll answer your question.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    2001400ex said:

    A

    I think some of the dumb cunts posting on this thread would change their tune drastically if their daughter was Kate Steinle.

    For the record, OBK, I don’t consider you to be a racist or a fascist. Rather, you’re just very Japanese is all.

    I just love that there is an endless supply of Donald Duck Nazi gifs on the internet. It’s the gift that keeps giving.
    Bullshit. Our friendship may now be in jeopardy. He's racist af.

    Let me post this again, but for your benefit. Lots of lessons to be learned here rowboat:


    I don’t think in 3 years here I’ve ever accused someone of being racist. I suppose in the current moral panic where everyone is accusing everyone of racism, I’m reluctant to do so.
    Oh come on.

    When someone serves it to you on a plate, you needn't worry that you'll be accused of playing loose with the race card. I can count on one finger the number of times I've seen @MikeDamone use it. That's how easy our local David Duke has made it for you.

    [Youcanactlikeaman.gif]
    Just not my style ese.
    Diappointing.

    I mistook you for a man of principle. It would be but a millimeter journey from what he's written for him to tell you he's a racist.

    Style's got nothing to do with it. Principle and character. Principle and character.

    I once told someone I know a guy who, had he been born in another time, would have rowed with the boys of '36. I have to take that back now.

    Sad. Sad, really.
    @creepycoug , so here’s an honest and open ended philosopher king question for you...

    So Merriam - Webster defines racism as follows:

    Definition of racism
    1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

    Obviously, most nativist movements through out our nation’s history have been driven people who were racist. But we’re in a unique place because we are a nation built on creed and not tribe. People can become “American” in very short order

    Earlier in the thread I said OBK is Japanese in his outlook. Japan is the most homogeneous nation on earth. Many Japanese are notoriously racist but I suspect there are many who aren’t - ie they don’t think their tribe is superior to others per se. But what if these folks simply want keep Japan all Japanese for the sake of the cultural cohesion aspect. What of Spaniards who want to keep Spain most Spanish in character? Are all these people racist? It’s an honest question and I don’t know that I know the answer.
    apples and oranges and a touch of a red herring. OBK believes other races are inferior to whites. That’s the discussion.
    Sure, if OBK thinks other races are inferior to whites then he’s a racist. But if Swede’s are caoncerned about their country ceasing to be Swedish in 50 years I don’t know that this qualifies as racism.
    He thinks other races are inferior to whites. You must not have been following along.

    That’s the whole point.
    You're a lying piece of shit, I never said anything of the sort, and you like to engage in the same sort of leftist smear tactics you pretend to oppose. You started acting likepussy after the Soros Coin thread I started calling you out on your open borders stance.
    Fuck off. You said it many times. Eat shit

    You have no clue on my boarder opinion. You made a bunch of assumptions and starting acting like a fucking monkey.
    Point proved, it pissed you off, and you started acting like a shit eating leftist throwing around the word racist until it lost all meaning.
    You’re a racist. It has meaning when applied to you. Idiot.
    You're a lying piece of shit. This has already been documented. You denied supporting open borders multiple times, yet your own words in a thread from a year ago outed you. What else are you lying about, besides this?
    I’ve never denied being open borders. Dip shit. Ever.
    You lied about it multiple times, liar.
    Find the quote. Liar. Racist fuck.
    Find the quote that shows I'm an actual 'racist.' Lying piece of shit.
    There's many quotes. But the one where your said you wanted whites to be the majority in America is the top of the list.
    How exactly is that statement racist? And btw, you're also a lying piece of shit if you try to pretend you wouldn't prefer your own race to be the majority. Everyone does. Except for @RaceBannon. He's not a hypocrite at all.
    Do you believe white Europeans are superior to any other race? Yes or no
    Find the quote where I ever once said this, lying piece of shit. You point blank made the statement that I said this, and haven't backed it up with any proof.
    I’m asking you right now. Do you believe that. Yes or no?
    You have already said that I do. Which was a lie. Show the proof or admit you're a liar.
    So you won’t answer. Got it. And we know why you won’t.
    You already 'answered' for me, by claiming I said other races are inferior to whites. I told you to prove it or admit that you're a liar. You can't do either, because in addition to being a liar, you're also a cowardly piece of shit who is incapable of admitting when he is wrong.
    I said you think other races are inferior whites. Because you do. Racist old fool.

    You also won’t answer the simple question though.
    It's simple, admit you're a lying piece of shit, smear peddler who claimed I said something I didn't, and I'll answer your question.
    More ramblings from a racist crack pot.
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,066
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    Who do I have to blow around here to be called a racist?
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,333
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    Swaye said:

    Who do I have to blow around here to be called a racist?

    You can start with me.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    Swaye said:

    Who do I have to blow around here to be called a racist?

    J?
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    DoogWhispererDoogWhisperer Member Posts: 1,018
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    Immigrants in the US commit crimes at much lower rates than other Americans. Want less crime? Welcome more immigrants.
    "What available studies do show, however, is that overall, crime rates are lower among immigrant groups than they are among native-born Americans."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-check-trumps-claims-illegal-immigrant-crime-rates/story?id=60311860
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,924
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    My experience suggests otherwise.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,604
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    Immigrants in the US commit crimes at much lower rates than other Americans. Want less crime? Welcome more immigrants.
    "What available studies do show, however, is that overall, crime rates are lower among immigrant groups than they are among native-born Americans."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-check-trumps-claims-illegal-immigrant-crime-rates/story?id=60311860

    This is flat fucking bullshit and the dumbest lie parroted by the left.
    The classic conflating of legal immigrants vs illegals

    And even if it were true, any crime by an illegal is one that shouldn't have happened...so they can't lower crime rates
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    DoogWhispererDoogWhisperer Member Posts: 1,018
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    Immigrants in the US commit crimes at much lower rates than other Americans. Want less crime? Welcome more immigrants.
    "What available studies do show, however, is that overall, crime rates are lower among immigrant groups than they are among native-born Americans."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-check-trumps-claims-illegal-immigrant-crime-rates/story?id=60311860

    This is flat fucking bullshit and the dumbest lie parroted by the left.
    The classic conflating of legal immigrants vs illegals

    And even if it were true, any crime by an illegal is one that shouldn't have happened...so they can't lower crime rates
    A study by the Libertarian Cato Institute.
    https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/criminal-immigrants-texas-illegal-immigrant

    Sorry, that the truth hurts you.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,924
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    Immigrants in the US commit crimes at much lower rates than other Americans. Want less crime? Welcome more immigrants.
    "What available studies do show, however, is that overall, crime rates are lower among immigrant groups than they are among native-born Americans."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-check-trumps-claims-illegal-immigrant-crime-rates/story?id=60311860

    This is flat fucking bullshit and the dumbest lie parroted by the left.
    The classic conflating of legal immigrants vs illegals

    And even if it were true, any crime by an illegal is one that shouldn't have happened...so they can't lower crime rates
    A study by the Libertarian Cato Institute.
    https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/criminal-immigrants-texas-illegal-immigrant

    Sorry, that the truth hurts you.
    Fake news. 100% of illegals have committed a crime.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    Sledog said:

    Immigrants in the US commit crimes at much lower rates than other Americans. Want less crime? Welcome more immigrants.
    "What available studies do show, however, is that overall, crime rates are lower among immigrant groups than they are among native-born Americans."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-check-trumps-claims-illegal-immigrant-crime-rates/story?id=60311860

    This is flat fucking bullshit and the dumbest lie parroted by the left.
    The classic conflating of legal immigrants vs illegals

    And even if it were true, any crime by an illegal is one that shouldn't have happened...so they can't lower crime rates
    A study by the Libertarian Cato Institute.
    https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/criminal-immigrants-texas-illegal-immigrant

    Sorry, that the truth hurts you.
    Fake news. 100% of illegals have committed a crime.
    That's not the point shit bird.

    Why is it that you lack the mental dexterity to ever concede even one fucking point? Of course, by being here illegally, they are guilty of that crime. Separate topic. The point discussed here is that it's rhetoric and bullshit when people suggest that immigration = waves of criminal activity. Which is hardly surprising. Most of them are fucking terrified of the authorities, they don't know the system and if anything are probably pretty cautious about fucking up. That was certainly my experience growing up around a lot of people who came here from somewhere else.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,924
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    Sledog said:

    Immigrants in the US commit crimes at much lower rates than other Americans. Want less crime? Welcome more immigrants.
    "What available studies do show, however, is that overall, crime rates are lower among immigrant groups than they are among native-born Americans."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-check-trumps-claims-illegal-immigrant-crime-rates/story?id=60311860

    This is flat fucking bullshit and the dumbest lie parroted by the left.
    The classic conflating of legal immigrants vs illegals

    And even if it were true, any crime by an illegal is one that shouldn't have happened...so they can't lower crime rates
    A study by the Libertarian Cato Institute.
    https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/criminal-immigrants-texas-illegal-immigrant

    Sorry, that the truth hurts you.
    Fake news. 100% of illegals have committed a crime.
    That's not the point shit bird.

    Why is it that you lack the mental dexterity to ever concede even one fucking point? Of course, by being here illegally, they are guilty of that crime. Separate topic. The point discussed here is that it's rhetoric and bullshit when people suggest that immigration = waves of criminal activity. Which is hardly surprising. Most of them are fucking terrified of the authorities, they don't know the system and if anything are probably pretty cautious about fucking up. That was certainly my experience growing up around a lot of people who came here from somewhere else.
    IIRC they're more than 30% of the federal inmate population.

    I've arrested a shitload of them. HTH
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    edited November 2019
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Immigrants in the US commit crimes at much lower rates than other Americans. Want less crime? Welcome more immigrants.
    "What available studies do show, however, is that overall, crime rates are lower among immigrant groups than they are among native-born Americans."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-check-trumps-claims-illegal-immigrant-crime-rates/story?id=60311860

    This is flat fucking bullshit and the dumbest lie parroted by the left.
    The classic conflating of legal immigrants vs illegals

    And even if it were true, any crime by an illegal is one that shouldn't have happened...so they can't lower crime rates
    A study by the Libertarian Cato Institute.
    https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/criminal-immigrants-texas-illegal-immigrant

    Sorry, that the truth hurts you.
    Fake news. 100% of illegals have committed a crime.
    That's not the point shit bird.

    Why is it that you lack the mental dexterity to ever concede even one fucking point? Of course, by being here illegally, they are guilty of that crime. Separate topic. The point discussed here is that it's rhetoric and bullshit when people suggest that immigration = waves of criminal activity. Which is hardly surprising. Most of them are fucking terrified of the authorities, they don't know the system and if anything are probably pretty cautious about fucking up. That was certainly my experience growing up around a lot of people who came here from somewhere else.
    IIRC they're more than 30% of the federal inmate population.

    I've arrested a shitload of them. HTH
    Hey, here's an idea.

    You can do better than IIRC and your limited anecdotal evidence and read the report of the study. He fucking linked it for you. And before you go off with the usual ass talk, the CATO institute is a well respect libertarian organization.

    Or believe what you want to believe. IDRGAF
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,924
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    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Immigrants in the US commit crimes at much lower rates than other Americans. Want less crime? Welcome more immigrants.
    "What available studies do show, however, is that overall, crime rates are lower among immigrant groups than they are among native-born Americans."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-check-trumps-claims-illegal-immigrant-crime-rates/story?id=60311860

    This is flat fucking bullshit and the dumbest lie parroted by the left.
    The classic conflating of legal immigrants vs illegals

    And even if it were true, any crime by an illegal is one that shouldn't have happened...so they can't lower crime rates
    A study by the Libertarian Cato Institute.
    https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/criminal-immigrants-texas-illegal-immigrant

    Sorry, that the truth hurts you.
    Fake news. 100% of illegals have committed a crime.
    That's not the point shit bird.

    Why is it that you lack the mental dexterity to ever concede even one fucking point? Of course, by being here illegally, they are guilty of that crime. Separate topic. The point discussed here is that it's rhetoric and bullshit when people suggest that immigration = waves of criminal activity. Which is hardly surprising. Most of them are fucking terrified of the authorities, they don't know the system and if anything are probably pretty cautious about fucking up. That was certainly my experience growing up around a lot of people who came here from somewhere else.
    IIRC they're more than 30% of the federal inmate population.

    I've arrested a shitload of them. HTH
    Hey, here's an idea.

    You can do better than IIRC and your limited anecdotal evidence and read the report of the study. He fucking linked it for you. And before you go off with the usual ass talk, the CATO institute is a well respect libertarian organization.

    Or believe what you want to believe. IDRGAF
    I believe what my experience tells me. It's a lot like touching a hot stove.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Immigrants in the US commit crimes at much lower rates than other Americans. Want less crime? Welcome more immigrants.
    "What available studies do show, however, is that overall, crime rates are lower among immigrant groups than they are among native-born Americans."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-check-trumps-claims-illegal-immigrant-crime-rates/story?id=60311860

    This is flat fucking bullshit and the dumbest lie parroted by the left.
    The classic conflating of legal immigrants vs illegals

    And even if it were true, any crime by an illegal is one that shouldn't have happened...so they can't lower crime rates
    A study by the Libertarian Cato Institute.
    https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/criminal-immigrants-texas-illegal-immigrant

    Sorry, that the truth hurts you.
    Fake news. 100% of illegals have committed a crime.
    That's not the point shit bird.

    Why is it that you lack the mental dexterity to ever concede even one fucking point? Of course, by being here illegally, they are guilty of that crime. Separate topic. The point discussed here is that it's rhetoric and bullshit when people suggest that immigration = waves of criminal activity. Which is hardly surprising. Most of them are fucking terrified of the authorities, they don't know the system and if anything are probably pretty cautious about fucking up. That was certainly my experience growing up around a lot of people who came here from somewhere else.
    IIRC they're more than 30% of the federal inmate population.

    I've arrested a shitload of them. HTH
    Hey, here's an idea.

    You can do better than IIRC and your limited anecdotal evidence and read the report of the study. He fucking linked it for you. And before you go off with the usual ass talk, the CATO institute is a well respect libertarian organization.

    Or believe what you want to believe. IDRGAF
    I believe what my experience tells me. It's a lot like touching a hot stove.
    Your experience is limited and narrow. You were a cop.

    You may find this hard to believe - I'm sure you will - but organizations study phenomena well outside the narrow bounds of your and my experience.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,924
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    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Immigrants in the US commit crimes at much lower rates than other Americans. Want less crime? Welcome more immigrants.
    "What available studies do show, however, is that overall, crime rates are lower among immigrant groups than they are among native-born Americans."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-check-trumps-claims-illegal-immigrant-crime-rates/story?id=60311860

    This is flat fucking bullshit and the dumbest lie parroted by the left.
    The classic conflating of legal immigrants vs illegals

    And even if it were true, any crime by an illegal is one that shouldn't have happened...so they can't lower crime rates
    A study by the Libertarian Cato Institute.
    https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/criminal-immigrants-texas-illegal-immigrant

    Sorry, that the truth hurts you.
    Fake news. 100% of illegals have committed a crime.
    That's not the point shit bird.

    Why is it that you lack the mental dexterity to ever concede even one fucking point? Of course, by being here illegally, they are guilty of that crime. Separate topic. The point discussed here is that it's rhetoric and bullshit when people suggest that immigration = waves of criminal activity. Which is hardly surprising. Most of them are fucking terrified of the authorities, they don't know the system and if anything are probably pretty cautious about fucking up. That was certainly my experience growing up around a lot of people who came here from somewhere else.
    IIRC they're more than 30% of the federal inmate population.

    I've arrested a shitload of them. HTH
    Hey, here's an idea.

    You can do better than IIRC and your limited anecdotal evidence and read the report of the study. He fucking linked it for you. And before you go off with the usual ass talk, the CATO institute is a well respect libertarian organization.

    Or believe what you want to believe. IDRGAF
    I believe what my experience tells me. It's a lot like touching a hot stove.
    Your experience is limited and narrow. You were a cop.

    You may find this hard to believe - I'm sure you will - but organizations study phenomena well outside the narrow bounds of your and my experience.
    Many have agendas and since we don't even have a clue to how many illegals are actually here it's mighty hard to figure.
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