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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.

    I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1.
    I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Swaye, we give each other shit and I think you are hilarious a lot of the time. But what you've said here isn't reflective of reality. I know you won't trust anything but your news source, so I'd try to actually watch it rather than your news source take on it. And it's the same on the other side, I'd imagine MSNBC is saying Trump hung himself and he's done with this testimony. Where your side is only saying the fourth hand testimony line of testimony.
    I read the transcript. I watched the hearings yesterday. I don;t give a shit what Fox news or MSNBC or anyone else tries to tell me. I can read. I can listen to questions and answers at a hearing. Unless there is something super explosive Shifforbrains has been holding out there is no there there. None. My eyes and brain see a charade. Fuck Fox News.
    Ok. What about when they get Mulvaney on the stand? And he gets asked why he said Trump was withholding aid? Would that change your opinion?
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Swaye, we give each other shit and I think you are hilarious a lot of the time. But what you've said here isn't reflective of reality. I know you won't trust anything but your news source, so I'd try to actually watch it rather than your news source take on it. And it's the same on the other side, I'd imagine MSNBC is saying Trump hung himself and he's done with this testimony. Where your side is only saying the fourth hand testimony line of testimony.
    I read the transcript. I watched the hearings yesterday. I don;t give a shit what Fox news or MSNBC or anyone else tries to tell me. I can read. I can listen to questions and answers at a hearing. Unless there is something super explosive Shifforbrains has been holding out there is no there there. None. My eyes and brain see a charade. Fuck Fox News.
    Ok. What about when they get Mulvaney on the stand? And he gets asked why he said Trump was withholding aid? Would that change your opinion?
    When does the whistle blower testify?
    You answer my question and I'll answer yours. Deal?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,886 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Swaye, we give each other shit and I think you are hilarious a lot of the time. But what you've said here isn't reflective of reality. I know you won't trust anything but your news source, so I'd try to actually watch it rather than your news source take on it. And it's the same on the other side, I'd imagine MSNBC is saying Trump hung himself and he's done with this testimony. Where your side is only saying the fourth hand testimony line of testimony.
    I read the transcript. I watched the hearings yesterday. I don;t give a shit what Fox news or MSNBC or anyone else tries to tell me. I can read. I can listen to questions and answers at a hearing. Unless there is something super explosive Shifforbrains has been holding out there is no there there. None. My eyes and brain see a charade. Fuck Fox News.
    Ok. What about when they get Mulvaney on the stand? And he gets asked why he said Trump was withholding aid? Would that change your opinion?
    When does the whistle blower testify?
    You answer my question and I'll answer yours. Deal?
    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    Everyone knows the whistle blower since he started all this. You don't find it odd that he isn't going to testify? What a fucking partisan hack

    Feel free to show us the smoking gun that Mulvanny has
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Swaye, we give each other shit and I think you are hilarious a lot of the time. But what you've said here isn't reflective of reality. I know you won't trust anything but your news source, so I'd try to actually watch it rather than your news source take on it. And it's the same on the other side, I'd imagine MSNBC is saying Trump hung himself and he's done with this testimony. Where your side is only saying the fourth hand testimony line of testimony.
    I read the transcript. I watched the hearings yesterday. I don;t give a shit what Fox news or MSNBC or anyone else tries to tell me. I can read. I can listen to questions and answers at a hearing. Unless there is something super explosive Shifforbrains has been holding out there is no there there. None. My eyes and brain see a charade. Fuck Fox News.
    Ok. What about when they get Mulvaney on the stand? And he gets asked why he said Trump was withholding aid? Would that change your opinion?
    If Mulvaney says "Trump told me he planned to withhold aid unless Ukraine investigated Hunter Biden's possible ties to corruption in an effort to hurt his fathers campaign," then yes, I will agree Trump stepped over the line. That's the standard. If you cannot PROVE Trump sought to bribe another country to specifically do damage to a potential political opponent then there is no there there. Doesn't matter what it looks like. Doesn't matter what anyone thinks about it. Can you prove it? So if Mulvaney says that, then yes I will agree Trump fucked up.

    So, I suppose this means if he doesn't say that then you will agree that Trump's methods, while unsavory (to you), did not rise to the level of impeachment?
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  • 2001400ex
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    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Swaye, we give each other shit and I think you are hilarious a lot of the time. But what you've said here isn't reflective of reality. I know you won't trust anything but your news source, so I'd try to actually watch it rather than your news source take on it. And it's the same on the other side, I'd imagine MSNBC is saying Trump hung himself and he's done with this testimony. Where your side is only saying the fourth hand testimony line of testimony.
    I read the transcript. I watched the hearings yesterday. I don;t give a shit what Fox news or MSNBC or anyone else tries to tell me. I can read. I can listen to questions and answers at a hearing. Unless there is something super explosive Shifforbrains has been holding out there is no there there. None. My eyes and brain see a charade. Fuck Fox News.
    Ok. What about when they get Mulvaney on the stand? And he gets asked why he said Trump was withholding aid? Would that change your opinion?
    When does the whistle blower testify?
    You answer my question and I'll answer yours. Deal?
    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    Everyone knows the whistle blower since he started all this. You don't find it odd that he isn't going to testify? What a fucking partisan hack

    Feel free to show us the smoking gun that Mulvanny has
    Let’s revisit what he said during the briefing last Thursday. In response to a question from ABC’s Jon Karl about whether a “demand for an investigation into the Democrats was part of the reason that [Trump] ordered to withhold funding to Ukraine,” Mulvaney said this: “[T]he look-back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the thing that he was worried about in corruption with that nation. And that is absolutely appropriate.”

    “To be clear, what you described is a quid pro quo,” Karl pointed out. But Mulvaney was unbothered: “we do that all the time with foreign policy,” he said, confirming Karl’s characterization.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    edited November 2019
    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Swaye, we give each other shit and I think you are hilarious a lot of the time. But what you've said here isn't reflective of reality. I know you won't trust anything but your news source, so I'd try to actually watch it rather than your news source take on it. And it's the same on the other side, I'd imagine MSNBC is saying Trump hung himself and he's done with this testimony. Where your side is only saying the fourth hand testimony line of testimony.
    I read the transcript. I watched the hearings yesterday. I don;t give a shit what Fox news or MSNBC or anyone else tries to tell me. I can read. I can listen to questions and answers at a hearing. Unless there is something super explosive Shifforbrains has been holding out there is no there there. None. My eyes and brain see a charade. Fuck Fox News.
    Ok. What about when they get Mulvaney on the stand? And he gets asked why he said Trump was withholding aid? Would that change your opinion?
    When does the whistle blower testify?
    You answer my question and I'll answer yours. Deal?
    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    Everyone knows the whistle blower since he started all this. You don't find it odd that he isn't going to testify? What a fucking partisan hack

    Feel free to show us the smoking gun that Mulvanny has
    Let’s revisit what he said during the briefing last Thursday. In response to a question from ABC’s Jon Karl about whether a “demand for an investigation into the Democrats was part of the reason that [Trump] ordered to withhold funding to Ukraine,” Mulvaney said this: “[T]he look-back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the thing that he was worried about in corruption with that nation. And that is absolutely appropriate.”

    “To be clear, what you described is a quid pro quo,” Karl pointed out. But Mulvaney was unbothered: “we do that all the time with foreign policy,” he said, confirming Karl’s characterization.
    That is not a smoking gun Hondo. That is Mulvaney saying yes Trump wanted corruption looked at before we give you more money you will waste on crony capitalism. That is NOT "Trump specifically withheld aid to try to damage Joe (fuck Hunter) Biden's campaign." Again, not how it looks (to some), but what you can prove.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,092 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    Who is investigating Trump?

    At least 4 of his opponents are in the Senate

    The DNC is investigating Trump

    Its not a crime

    But when the President does it it's a crime I'm hearing. Next thing you know we will find out Trump has had Biden wire tapped!
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Why the meltdown? I just asked what his response would be if questioned in the impeachment inquiry.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,271 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.

    I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1.
    I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.
    Trump got elected, so winners win and all that. Romney would have been a better President rather easily. You still would have gotten all of your policy preferences with out all the baggage.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Swaye, we give each other shit and I think you are hilarious a lot of the time. But what you've said here isn't reflective of reality. I know you won't trust anything but your news source, so I'd try to actually watch it rather than your news source take on it. And it's the same on the other side, I'd imagine MSNBC is saying Trump hung himself and he's done with this testimony. Where your side is only saying the fourth hand testimony line of testimony.
    I read the transcript. I watched the hearings yesterday. I don;t give a shit what Fox news or MSNBC or anyone else tries to tell me. I can read. I can listen to questions and answers at a hearing. Unless there is something super explosive Shifforbrains has been holding out there is no there there. None. My eyes and brain see a charade. Fuck Fox News.
    Ok. What about when they get Mulvaney on the stand? And he gets asked why he said Trump was withholding aid? Would that change your opinion?
    When does the whistle blower testify?
    You answer my question and I'll answer yours. Deal?
    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    Everyone knows the whistle blower since he started all this. You don't find it odd that he isn't going to testify? What a fucking partisan hack

    Feel free to show us the smoking gun that Mulvanny has
    Let’s revisit what he said during the briefing last Thursday. In response to a question from ABC’s Jon Karl about whether a “demand for an investigation into the Democrats was part of the reason that [Trump] ordered to withhold funding to Ukraine,” Mulvaney said this: “[T]he look-back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the thing that he was worried about in corruption with that nation. And that is absolutely appropriate.”

    “To be clear, what you described is a quid pro quo,” Karl pointed out. But Mulvaney was unbothered: “we do that all the time with foreign policy,” he said, confirming Karl’s characterization.
    That is not a smoking gun Hondo. That is Mulvaney saying yes Trump wanted corruption looked at before we give you more money you will waste on crony capitalism. That is NOT "Trump specifically withheld aid to try to damage Joe (fuck Hunter) Biden's campaign." Again, not how it looks (to some), but what you can prove.
    Why are you bothering to engage it?
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    YellowSnow said:

    Swaye said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.

    I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1.
    I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.
    Trump got elected, so winners win and all that. Romney would have been a better President rather easily. You still would have gotten all of your policy preferences with out all the baggage.
    Disagree. Romney is a prolapsed pussy.
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  • Swaye
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    YellowSnow said:

    Swaye said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.

    I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1.
    I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.
    Trump got elected, so winners win and all that. Romney would have been a better President rather easily. You still would have gotten all of your policy preferences with out all the baggage.
    I don't think Romney would have been strong on the border or taken on the Chinese (to be fair I thought Trump was ham fisted there but it seems to be working). Romney is a giant pussy as well. But yeah, less baggage for sure. But also less HondoBros meltdowns. And these meltdowns are pretty glorious.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,271 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Swaye said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.

    I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1.
    I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.
    Trump got elected, so winners win and all that. Romney would have been a better President rather easily. You still would have gotten all of your policy preferences with out all the baggage.
    Disagree. Romney is a prolapsed pussy.
    If terms of winning POTUS elections, yes, which is what I just said above. But it's not like he couldn't have gotten a tax cut and nominated conservative judges.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,886 Founders Club
    Romney had his shot and got his ass kicked by Candy Crowley

    Trump ran on revisiting all aid to foreign countries and to take another look at America funding NATO. Then he acted on it.

    We had idiots in bow ties who never got elected butt hurt that they don't run the show anymore. That's a policy difference not an impeachable offense

    Romney lacked the guts to do that. He's part of the problem

    Trump threatening military aid got the Complex up in arms. It is as simple as that
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited November 2019
    YellowSnow said:

    salemcoog said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Swaye said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.

    I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1.
    I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.
    Trump got elected, so winners win and all that. Romney would have been a better President rather easily. You still would have gotten all of your policy preferences with out all the baggage.
    Disagree. Romney is a prolapsed pussy.
    If terms of winning POTUS elections, yes, which is what I just said above. But it's not like he couldn't have gotten a tax cut and nominated conservative judges.
    Disagree.

    He never would have taken on China. He never would have told the world to fuck off about the hypocritical Paris accord. He never would have taken on NATO to pay more of
    Their share. He never would have tackled our Southern border situation. And He would have escalated our presence in the ME like all the good Bush/Clinton indoctrinees.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,271 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Swaye said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.

    I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1.
    I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.
    Trump got elected, so winners win and all that. Romney would have been a better President rather easily. You still would have gotten all of your policy preferences with out all the baggage.
    I don't think Romney would have been strong on the border or taken on the Chinese (to be fair I thought Trump was ham fisted there but it seems to be working). Romney is a giant pussy as well. But yeah, less baggage for sure. But also less HondoBros meltdowns. And these meltdowns are pretty glorious.
    The illegals are still here. The wall isn't built. It's all symbolism over substance rhetoric thus far.

    I think Romney would have had a course correction on China too. Romney didn't want your guns either.

    The meltdown are glorious in the Tug. It's not good for the country.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,886 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Why the meltdown? I just asked what his response would be if questioned in the impeachment inquiry.

    My answer wasn't for deranged TDS sufferers.

    If you don't want the answer don't ask the question
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    YellowSnow said:

    Swaye said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Swaye said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.

    I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1.
    I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.
    Trump got elected, so winners win and all that. Romney would have been a better President rather easily. You still would have gotten all of your policy preferences with out all the baggage.
    I don't think Romney would have been strong on the border or taken on the Chinese (to be fair I thought Trump was ham fisted there but it seems to be working). Romney is a giant pussy as well. But yeah, less baggage for sure. But also less HondoBros meltdowns. And these meltdowns are pretty glorious.
    The illegals are still here. The wall isn't built. It's all symbolism over substance rhetoric thus far.

    I think Romney would have had a course correction on China too. Romney didn't want your guns either.

    The meltdown are glorious in the Tug. It's not good for the country.
    Romney wouldn't have stood up to China. Or NATO. Or the Paris accords. Romney never met a challenge he wasn't perfectly cool with not facing. Do agree Romney is probably legit better on guns. Trump always has to be scared back into believing in the 2nd Amendment. One of my major issues with Trump quite frankly. That and his bone spurs.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,271 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Swaye said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Swaye said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    Doogles said:

    There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.

    It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.
    You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?
    Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.
    Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.

    I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1.
    I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.
    Trump got elected, so winners win and all that. Romney would have been a better President rather easily. You still would have gotten all of your policy preferences with out all the baggage.
    I don't think Romney would have been strong on the border or taken on the Chinese (to be fair I thought Trump was ham fisted there but it seems to be working). Romney is a giant pussy as well. But yeah, less baggage for sure. But also less HondoBros meltdowns. And these meltdowns are pretty glorious.
    The illegals are still here. The wall isn't built. It's all symbolism over substance rhetoric thus far.

    I think Romney would have had a course correction on China too. Romney didn't want your guns either.

    The meltdown are glorious in the Tug. It's not good for the country.
    Progress is happening on the wall despite the Establishment united to stop it. The illegals were never being rounded up. Stop the flow and deal with what we have. Trump offered a DACA deal two years ago

    He's not the dictator his opponents claim. Congress plays a role here.

    Starting with Bubba through Obama there was lots of talk about illegals. Trump acted and became Public Enemy #1. It takes fortitude to stand up to the mob. None of the 16 GOP candidates had it. That's why Trump won

    To complain about his tone while ignoring the last three years of lies and abuse by his opponents strikes me as a bit short sighted
    The world just won't work the way I want and I hate myself. FYFMFE.


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