Pete sucks and you morons that don't agree are morons. You know how I know he sucks. Because it's year six and he still doesn't know what the fuck he is doing. Stop trying to make excuses for him. He fucken sucks. He has been coaching for 15 years and he doesn't know what the fuck he is doing. In Their first 10 years of coaching, Saban, dabo and Urban had already won a Natty. Those fuckers know How to win. Petersen knows how to throw seasons and games away. He is pathetic and if you defend him you are also pathetic. You are better than that. Snap out of it. He needs to go now. We can get Urban if we really wanted. We got the facilities and the once great winning tradition, he would definitely get us a Natty. But because UW is beta af that will never hau and if all we can get is Jimmy I'll fucken take it. Let Jimmy take over the show we need some passion. Petersen times up get the fuck out.
If UW wants to fight fire with fire with Oregon’s Cristobal desired physicality model and beyond, need to open up the wallets and go after Todd Grantham as HC. A lot of experience with physicality the theme. Abundance. He’d bring it. Just a thought on this collective proverbial search for another HC.
Anytime you lose three games it’s concerning, but they were close losses. It’s too small of sample size to say something is drastically wrong. Don James had plenty of down years. It can happen. It doesn’t really happen to Saban or Urban Meyer, but it does to everyone else.
I think Peterman should be getting criticized and he does do some shit that is downright retarded, but it doesn’t mean he’s a shitty coach and that we are fucked forever. That’s not to say he hasn’t been bad this year. Imo he’s completely fucked three games. In one of the three games were we clearly out talented. All were very, very winnable.
We’ve been good before and we’ll be good again. Natty is still the goal, but it’s really fucking hard.
Some of it is concerning, but not to the extent some of you take it. LIPO a bit.
Successful game/clock management has nothing to do with recruiting, talent, etc. He's lost several close games because he does not have the knack for making the correct, split-second decisions that effect the outcome of close games. He's proven as much, over, and over, and over again.
This is the most concerning part of this all. It’s fair to say we can’t count on him to even make the right decisions in a close game. He’s a liability in that regard right now.
Pete sucks and you morons that don't agree are morons. You know how I know he sucks. Because it's year six and he still doesn't know what the fuck he is doing. Stop trying to make excuses for him. He fucken sucks. He has been coaching for 15 years and he doesn't know what the fuck he is doing. In Their first 10 years of coaching, Saban, dabo and Urban had already won a Natty. Those fuckers know How to win. Petersen knows how to throw seasons and games away. He is pathetic and if you defend him you are also pathetic. You are better than that. Snap out of it. He needs to go now. We can get Urban if we really wanted. We got the facilities and the once great winning tradition, he would definitely get us a Natty. But because UW is beta af that will never hau and if all we can get is Jimmy I'll fucken take it. Let Jimmy take over the show we need some passion. Petersen times up get the fuck out.
I hate this year six bullshit like every program just makes linear progress and gets a step better each season. It doesn’t happen.
It's not about every other program. It's about this one and if we are serious or not about winning. When its playoff time and the Saban is there and the dabo is there and Lincoln Riley is there. Where will we be? not in the playoffs again and again. Yes being a champion is very hard it's not for everyone especially betas and Petersen.
One more thing - UW hasn't had a good track record with promoting coordinators to the HC position.
Furthermore, one may surmise that the coordinators are cut from the same cloth as the head coach. So, promoting one of them to HC would just be more inbreeding. New boss same as the old boss scenario - I've seen this at my place of work. Our current CEO operates like the previous one, even though he is more personable and the former was kind of like a robot. Same policies and same playbook; same culture. Yes, he worked up the ranks and was promoted within.
On the other hand some of our non-coordinator hires haven't been too special either.
Good poont!
UW AD has found so many different ways to burn us out over the years. May as well keep throwing shit at the wall to see what finally sticks.
Just so fucking tired and frustrated with a mediocre product.
Swaye made a really good point when he said if you think Pete gives you a 1% chance to win it all and there's guys out there that give you 2% chance then you make the move every time. I have always liked Petersen but I'm starting to get interested in the 2% option. Who knows. Maybe JL bumps you up to 5%.
Every team in the country is scrambling to figure out which coach could get them a championship. Problem is, only Saban, Dabo, and Urban have been able to do it in the playoff era. Lots of splash hires around the country that don’t bear fruit. Lots of college football royalty trying desperately to figure out who that coach is that will bring them back to the promise land.
We are all so frustrated and tired of inexplicable losses because we expect championships from Petersen. You could hire a shit load of dudes that won’t even get you consistent 10 win seasons, let alone expectations of a realistic shot at a championship. You could easily cycle through 6 coaches over 20 years trying to find that 2% option you’re talking about that can finally break through.
Petersen does 90% of things right which leads to consistency that I’ve been craving my whole adult life. It’s the 10% that fucks up the championship hopes I’ve been holding since I was a kid. Our only hope is that Petersen figures out the 10% and evolves.
That 10% is:
- In game decisions - Letting go of the offense - And recruiting at a top 10-15 level every year so the depth outweighs his coaching fuck ups
We are fucked. We have to hope he fucking evolves. Because otherwise you are Russian Rouletting yourself into putting yourself in the same 20 year shit we were in before we got Petersen and got expectations.
And for everyone who says “recruiting doesn’t matter you faggot, just win the games”. Yeah, well, the only team that has won a championship in the last two decades without being a top 10 recruiter or having top 10 composite talent is Clemson with a generational D Watson.
So with Pete’s development and Sam Huard who is our lord and savior, we could be 10-15.
But fuck off with this, “Fire Pete he cant get it don’t just go find someone who will”.
Where? Who? Who is that going to be? Because no one else can fucking find them. It’s fucking hard. Ask Michigan. They’ve been looking since 97. You don’t just boot someone who at least has that 1%, because barely anyone has that. Saban and Dabo and Urban rule the world. The rest of us are scrabbling for scraps.
Petersen won’t be fired, and even if he did who the fuck gives you a better chance.
He either evolves or he doesn’t and we are fucked. But if we go out and throw darts at a bored we are fucked anyway. So he needs to evolve.
Well it wasn't a fire Pete topic. It was simply a question about whether there is a succession agreement.
Fair enough, but I’ve been worked up in a handful of threads @whuggy, so I kept my roll goin.
Sorry @DoogCourics , I was just annoyed you finding excuses for his short comings.
@DoogCourics is far too rational for the "Winners win, losers lose, alpha, beta, phi delta kappa" nonsense Me Tarzan, you Jane mentality that permeates around here. Can we get a cave rat board for lower level discussion amongst the simples?
winner win, loser look for reasons to lose or have excuses. that is the god damn truth in life.
It's not about every other program. It's about this one and if we are serious or not about winning. When its playoff time and the Saban is there and the dabo is there and Lincoln Riley is there. Where will we be? not in the playoffs again and again. Yes being a champion is very hard it's not for everyone especially betas and Petersen.
We aren’t there now. I don’t think it’s inconceivable that we have a run where we are an annual contender for a few years.
I’m concerned because I really doubt it happens next year and I want it now. I haven’t completely given up tho. In the bigger picture. Pete’s a good coach and has a proven track record of developing players and winning.
Successful game/clock management has nothing to do with recruiting, talent, etc. He's lost several close games because he does not have the knack for making the correct, split-second decisions that effect the outcome of close games. He's proven as much, over, and over, and over again.
Between Pete and Jimmy with Jen's consent. Pete I'm sure isn't thrilled with what is necessary to take the step to the next level. He already hates the media stuff. Also seems Jimmy is very slow in taking the next step in his career. If he's still here in two years I think it's a valid hypothesis.
There was a lot of talk by Petersen after the Rose Bowl loss about reevaluating EVERYTHING they do on offense... trying to simplify things and really forge an identity on that side of the ball. All that talk was then followed by an utterly fucktarded and unnecessary QB competition in fall camp... then once the season began, we ran the same directionless, pointless, unnecessarily complicated bullshit on offense we'd seen the previous two seasons. Pete changed absolutely fucking nothing.
At this point, the only thing that will change my mind about Pete will be if Hamden is fired after the season and an OC is brought in from outside of Pete's coaching tree to run an entirely different offense. And if Bob Gregory is shitcanned. Those two things need to happen at the very fucking least. Otherwise, we will continue to lose 1-2 games every year against teams we have no business losing to, and we'll also continue to lose to every topflight program we play.
This is Pete's last real chance to show he's serious enough to the make the necessary changes to play for a championship. If he doesn't do it after this season, he's never doing it. Unfortunately if I was to put money on it, I'd say Hamden and Gregory will both be back next year. So basically, we fuct.
One more thing - UW hasn't had a good track record with promoting coordinators to the HC position.
Furthermore, one may surmise that the coordinators are cut from the same cloth as the head coach. So, promoting one of them to HC would just be more inbreeding. New boss same as the old boss scenario - I've seen this at my place of work. Our current CEO operates like the previous one, even though he is more personable and the former was kind of like a robot. Same policies and same playbook; same culture. Yes, he worked up the ranks and was promoted within.
On the other hand some of our non-coordinator hires haven't been too special either.
Good poont!
UW AD has found so many different ways to burn us out over the years. May as well keep throwing shit at the wall to see what finally sticks.
Just so fucking tired and frustrated with a mediocre product.
Swaye made a really good point when he said if you think Pete gives you a 1% chance to win it all and there's guys out there that give you 2% chance then you make the move every time. I have always liked Petersen but I'm starting to get interested in the 2% option. Who knows. Maybe JL bumps you up to 5%.
Every team in the country is scrambling to figure out which coach could get them a championship. Problem is, only Saban, Dabo, and Urban have been able to do it in the playoff era. Lots of splash hires around the country that don’t bear fruit. Lots of college football royalty trying desperately to figure out who that coach is that will bring them back to the promise land.
We are all so frustrated and tired of inexplicable losses because we expect championships from Petersen. You could hire a shit load of dudes that won’t even get you consistent 10 win seasons, let alone expectations of a realistic shot at a championship. You could easily cycle through 6 coaches over 20 years trying to find that 2% option you’re talking about that can finally break through.
Petersen does 90% of things right which leads to consistency that I’ve been craving my whole adult life. It’s the 10% that fucks up the championship hopes I’ve been holding since I was a kid. Our only hope is that Petersen figures out the 10% and evolves.
That 10% is:
- In game decisions - Letting go of the offense - And recruiting at a top 10-15 level every year so the depth outweighs his coaching fuck ups
We are fucked. We have to hope he fucking evolves. Because otherwise you are Russian Rouletting yourself into putting yourself in the same 20 year shit we were in before we got Petersen and got expectations.
And for everyone who says “recruiting doesn’t matter you faggot, just win the games”. Yeah, well, the only team that has won a championship in the last two decades without being a top 10 recruiter or having top 10 composite talent is Clemson with a generational D Watson.
So with Pete’s development and Sam Huard who is our lord and savior, we could be 10-15.
But fuck off with this, “Fire Pete he cant get it don’t just go find someone who will”.
Where? Who? Who is that going to be? Because no one else can fucking find them. It’s fucking hard. Ask Michigan. They’ve been looking since 97. You don’t just boot someone who at least has that 1%, because barely anyone has that. Saban and Dabo and Urban rule the world. The rest of us are scrabbling for scraps.
Petersen won’t be fired, and even if he did who the fuck gives you a better chance.
He either evolves or he doesn’t and we are fucked. But if we go out and throw darts at a bored we are fucked anyway. So he needs to evolve.
This is a good post. I am very conflicted right now. Mostly I am just pissed off and wanting to throw things.
Look, we aren't getting rid of him. I get it. And as much as I am pissed about this bullshit, that is probably the best idea. I wanted his ass fired Sunday, but I am an angry Injun who likes scalping whites - and Pete is as white bread as they come. A few days later I am still in full on "I hate Pete" mode, but brain synapses are now firing and I can see the logic in really hoping for that problematic 10% to change. I've said it, he is nails on the other 90%. But my issue with this logic that he probably shouldn't be canned is twofold.
1) We are HHBs, and if there is one thing about being an HHB it's demanding excellence and cutting bait when it isn't being met. So let's go to the tape (courtesy of PGOS):
Petersen is 2-4 against Oregon Petersen is 2-4 against Stanford Petersen is 2-3 against ASU Petersen is 3-3 against Cal Petersen is 0-2 against SEC teams Petersen is 0-2 against good B1G teams Petersen is 1-4 in Bowl Games
Take out everything else you think you know about Pete. Look at those numbers. Is that up to standards? It's not even close. It is objectively fucking terrible. This is a serious problem. He has feasted on beating up on the weakest Pac 12 of my lifetim and some scrub WAC programs. We are NEVER playing in a CFP or 3 straight NY6 games if the Oregon of 5 years ago or the USC of 12 years ago exist. This is a historically WEAK Pac-12 and we are getting good records beating up on shit teams, scheduling 2-3 for sure wins a year, and going sub .500 over 6 years against the ENTIRE Pac 12 North sans CUOG and Beav. Sure, ok, don't fire Pete, but WTF man? Being .500 against the Pac-12 North, losing all 4 games against the B1G and SEC, and going 1-4 in bowl games is shit.
TL;DR: Pete is not as "good" as his overall record indicates. This is a very average to slightly above average football team that has feasted on the Sisters of the Poor the last 6 years and gotten drilled whenever they play someone good.
2) Pete is stubborn. Everyone on this bored says it all the tim. It's the one thing we can agree on. Is it wise to wait for a few more years of data hoping that Pete makes the changes to erase that 10%? I don't know. At this point I find it unlikely he changes. I think it much more likely we continue to bounce between 8-5 and 11-2 winning the occasional shitty Pac-12 crown and getting ass blasted in any real bowel game.
So that's it. Yeah, I agree, Pete gets a couple more years to fix the 10% and unfuck this, but stop viewing him through purple colored glasses. This team is not as "good" as 3 Pac-12 Crowns in 6 years appears when you really look at the quality of the league and our scheduling, and our performance against "top teams" has been fucking abysmal.
So, I will grudgingly agree that it is a HUGE risk to go try to find lightning in a bottle with someone else, but there are clear warning signs here that must be dealt with now.
I'd give Pete a couple more years to see if he can work this out. But my patience for getting assblasted by shitty ass Cal every year is at an end. I hope Pete figures it out because 20 more years in the CFP wasteland would suck, but I'm with @Guntlove that we need to see changes NOW. Real changes. Not bandaid bullshit. Hamdan gone. Gregory gone. Minimum. A real signal that he is committed to a new way of doing business. I am past the "small measured" changes approach. Get your shit together Pete or put Swaye in charge!
Pete is starting to feel like Romar.all over again. I wanted Romar fired 4 years before it happened and didn't even watch a single hoops game his last 2 seasons. I hope that's not the case here, but that's the feeling I'm getting and it bums me out.
One more thing - UW hasn't had a good track record with promoting coordinators to the HC position.
Furthermore, one may surmise that the coordinators are cut from the same cloth as the head coach. So, promoting one of them to HC would just be more inbreeding. New boss same as the old boss scenario - I've seen this at my place of work. Our current CEO operates like the previous one, even though he is more personable and the former was kind of like a robot. Same policies and same playbook; same culture. Yes, he worked up the ranks and was promoted within.
On the other hand some of our non-coordinator hires haven't been too special either.
Good poont!
UW AD has found so many different ways to burn us out over the years. May as well keep throwing shit at the wall to see what finally sticks.
Just so fucking tired and frustrated with a mediocre product.
Swaye made a really good point when he said if you think Pete gives you a 1% chance to win it all and there's guys out there that give you 2% chance then you make the move every time. I have always liked Petersen but I'm starting to get interested in the 2% option. Who knows. Maybe JL bumps you up to 5%.
Every team in the country is scrambling to figure out which coach could get them a championship. Problem is, only Saban, Dabo, and Urban have been able to do it in the playoff era. Lots of splash hires around the country that don’t bear fruit. Lots of college football royalty trying desperately to figure out who that coach is that will bring them back to the promise land.
We are all so frustrated and tired of inexplicable losses because we expect championships from Petersen. You could hire a shit load of dudes that won’t even get you consistent 10 win seasons, let alone expectations of a realistic shot at a championship. You could easily cycle through 6 coaches over 20 years trying to find that 2% option you’re talking about that can finally break through.
Petersen does 90% of things right which leads to consistency that I’ve been craving my whole adult life. It’s the 10% that fucks up the championship hopes I’ve been holding since I was a kid. Our only hope is that Petersen figures out the 10% and evolves.
That 10% is:
- In game decisions - Letting go of the offense - And recruiting at a top 10-15 level every year so the depth outweighs his coaching fuck ups
We are fucked. We have to hope he fucking evolves. Because otherwise you are Russian Rouletting yourself into putting yourself in the same 20 year shit we were in before we got Petersen and got expectations.
And for everyone who says “recruiting doesn’t matter you faggot, just win the games”. Yeah, well, the only team that has won a championship in the last two decades without being a top 10 recruiter or having top 10 composite talent is Clemson with a generational D Watson.
So with Pete’s development and Sam Huard who is our lord and savior, we could be 10-15.
But fuck off with this, “Fire Pete he cant get it don’t just go find someone who will”.
Where? Who? Who is that going to be? Because no one else can fucking find them. It’s fucking hard. Ask Michigan. They’ve been looking since 97. You don’t just boot someone who at least has that 1%, because barely anyone has that. Saban and Dabo and Urban rule the world. The rest of us are scrabbling for scraps.
Petersen won’t be fired, and even if he did who the fuck gives you a better chance.
He either evolves or he doesn’t and we are fucked. But if we go out and throw darts at a bored we are fucked anyway. So he needs to evolve.
This is a good post. I am very conflicted right now. Mostly I am just pissed off and wanting to throw things.
Look, we aren't getting rid of him. I get it. And as much as I am pissed about this bullshit, that is probably the best idea. I wanted his ass fired Sunday, but I am an angry Injun who likes scalping whites - and Pete is as white bread as they come. A few days later I am still in full on "I hate Pete" mode, but brain synapses are now firing and I can see the logic in really hoping for that problematic 10% to change. I've said it, he is nails on the other 90%. But my issue with this logic that he probably shouldn't be canned is twofold.
1) We are HHBs, and if there is one thing about being an HHB it's demanding excellence and cutting bait when it isn't being met. So let's go to the tape (courtesy of PGOS):
Petersen is 2-4 against Oregon Petersen is 2-4 against Stanford Petersen is 2-3 against ASU Petersen is 3-3 against Cal Petersen is 0-2 against SEC teams Petersen is 0-2 against good B1G teams Petersen is 1-4 in Bowl Games
Take out everything else you think you know about Pete. Look at those numbers. Is that up to standards? It's not even close. It is objectively fucking terrible. This is a serious problem. He has feasted on beating up on the weakest Pac 12 of my lifetim and some scrub WAC programs. We are NEVER playing in a CFP or 3 straight NY6 games if the Oregon of 5 years ago or the USC of 12 years ago exist. This is a historically WEAK Pac-12 and we are getting good records beating up on shit teams, scheduling 2-3 for sure wins a year, and going sub .500 over 6 years against the ENTIRE Pac 12 North sans CUOG and Beav. Sure, ok, don't fire Pete, but WTF man? Being .500 against the Pac-12 North, losing all 4 games against the B1G and SEC, and going 1-4 in bowl games is shit.
TL;DR: Pete is not as "good" as his overall record indicates. This is a very average to slightly above average football team that has feasted on the Sisters of the Poor the last 6 years and gotten drilled whenever they play someone good.
2) Pete is stubborn. Everyone on this bored says it all the tim. It's the one thing we can agree on. Is it wise to wait for a few more years of data hoping that Pete makes the changes to erase that 10%? I don't know. At this point I find it unlikely he changes. I think it much more likely we continue to bounce between 8-5 and 11-2 winning the occasional shitty Pac-12 crown and getting ass blasted in any real bowel game.
So that's it. Yeah, I agree, Pete gets a couple more years to fix the 10% and unfuck this, but stop viewing him through purple colored glasses. This team is not as "good" as 3 Pac-12 Crowns in 6 years appears when you really look at the quality of the league and our scheduling, and our performance against "top teams" has been fucking abysmal.
So, I will grudgingly agree that it is a HUGE risk to go try to find lightning in a bottle with someone else, but there are clear warning signs here that must be dealt with now.
I'd give Pete a couple more years to see if he can work this out. But my patience for getting assblasted by shitty ass Cal every year is at an end. I hope Pete figures it out because 20 more years in the CFP wasteland would suck, but I'm with @Guntlove that we need to see changes NOW. Real changes. Not bandaid bullshit. Hamdan gone. Gregory gone. Minimum. A real signal that he is committed to a new way of doing business. I am past the "small measured" changes approach. Get your shit together Pete or put Swaye in charge!
Brilliant post that perfectly encapsulates my feelings on the coaching situation right now. The scales have fallen from my eyes RE: Pete. I think a sizable part of my angst is I sometimes have a tendency to put certain individuals on pedestals, and when they fail (which people inevitably do) I don’t take it well. I saw him as the savior sent to us by St. Haden. He’s done a lot of good, but I question if he’ll get us to the national title promise land.
Oh, and OT: every time I see that little girl gif, it reminds me of a photo of myself at about the same age around Halloween.
This is a good post. I am very conflicted right now. Mostly I am just pissed off and wanting to throw things.
Look, we aren't getting rid of him. I get it. And as much as I am pissed about this bullshit, that is probably the best idea. I wanted his ass fired Sunday, but I am an angry Injun who likes scalping whites - and Pete is as white bread as they come. A few days later I am still in full on "I hate Pete" mode, but brain synapses are now firing and I can see the logic in really hoping for that problematic 10% to change. I've said it, he is nails on the other 90%. But my issue with this logic that he probably shouldn't be canned is twofold.
1) We are HHBs, and if there is one thing about being an HHB it's demanding excellence and cutting bait when it isn't being met. So let's go to the tape (courtesy of PGOS):
Petersen is 2-4 against Oregon Petersen is 2-4 against Stanford Petersen is 2-3 against ASU Petersen is 3-3 against Cal Petersen is 0-2 against SEC teams Petersen is 0-2 against good B1G teams Petersen is 1-4 in Bowl Games
Take out everything else you think you know about Pete. Look at those numbers. Is that up to standards? It's not even close. It is objectively fucking terrible. This is a serious problem. He has feasted on beating up on the weakest Pac 12 of my lifetim and some scrub WAC programs. We are NEVER playing in a CFP or 3 straight NY6 games if the Oregon of 5 years ago or the USC of 12 years ago exist. This is a historically WEAK Pac-12 and we are getting good records beating up on shit teams, scheduling 2-3 for sure wins a year, and going sub .500 over 6 years against the ENTIRE Pac 12 North sans CUOG and Beav. Sure, ok, don't fire Pete, but WTF man? Being .500 against the Pac-12 North, losing all 4 games against the B1G and SEC, and going 1-4 in bowl games is shit.
TL;DR: Pete is not as "good" as his overall record indicates. This is a very average to slightly above average football team that has feasted on the Sisters of the Poor the last 6 years and gotten drilled whenever they play someone good.
2) Pete is stubborn. Everyone on this bored says it all the tim. It's the one thing we can agree on. Is it wise to wait for a few more years of data hoping that Pete makes the changes to erase that 10%? I don't know. At this point I find it unlikely he changes. I think it much more likely we continue to bounce between 8-5 and 11-2 winning the occasional shitty Pac-12 crown and getting ass blasted in any real bowel game.
So that's it. Yeah, I agree, Pete gets a couple more years to fix the 10% and unfuck this, but stop viewing him through purple colored glasses. This team is not as "good" as 3 Pac-12 Crowns in 6 years appears when you really look at the quality of the league and our scheduling, and our performance against "top teams" has been fucking abysmal.
So, I will grudgingly agree that it is a HUGE risk to go try to find lightning in a bottle with someone else, but there are clear warning signs here that must be dealt with now.
I'd give Pete a couple more years to see if he can work this out. But my patience for getting assblasted by shitty ass Cal every year is at an end. I hope Pete figures it out because 20 more years in the CFP wasteland would suck, but I'm with @Guntlove that we need to see changes NOW. Real changes. Not bandaid bullshit. Hamdan gone. Gregory gone. Minimum. A real signal that he is committed to a new way of doing business. I am past the "small measured" changes approach. Get your shit together Pete or put Swaye in charge!
Brilliant post that perfectly encapsulates my feelings on the coaching situation right now. The scales have fallen from my eyes RE: Pete. I think a sizable part of my angst is I sometimes have a tendency to put certain individuals on pedestals, and when they fail (which people inevitably do) I don’t take it well. I saw him as the savior sent to us by St. Haden. He’s done a lot of good, but I question if he’ll get us to the national title promise land.
Oh, and OT: every time I see that little girl gif, it reminds me of a photo of myself at about the same age around Halloween.
one each UCLA, Arizona, Utah, and USC OOC Boise ST and Auburn
Bowel game losses OK St, Pen St, Ohio St, Ala
and to offset those losses, Signature win USC
I'm not gonna look it up, but what was our record against those Pac12 teams and similar OOC competition the previous 10 years? 15? 20? How many three plus game loosing streaks did we? endure? How many plungers were forcibly inserted into our? anuses every year? How bad did we? loose to LSU, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Oregon, Stanford, USC over those years? I still feel the ring sting. I guess a bunch of you love the way that feels because you have forgotten how this program was abused by any team with a pulse for almost 20 years. My alcoholic memory is not that good and can be untrustworthy at tims but going to the semi final, Rose Bowl and Fiesta Bowl and winning two out of three, four now, Pac 12 titles is #whyistayed.
one each UCLA, Arizona, Utah, and USC OOC Boise ST and Auburn
Bowel game losses OK St, Pen St, Ohio St, Ala
and to offset those losses, Signature win USC
I'm not gonna look it up, but what was our record against those Pac12 teams and similar OOC competition the previous 10 years? 15? 20? How many three plus game loosing streaks did we? endure? How many plungers were forcibly inserted into our? anuses every year? How bad did we? loose to LSU, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Oregon, Stanford, USC over those years? I still feel the ring sting. I guess a bunch of you love the way that feels because you have forgotten how this program was abused by any team with a pulse for almost 20 years. My alcoholic memory is not that good and can be untrustworthy at tims but going to the semi final, Rose Bowl and Fiesta Bowl and winning two out of three, four now, Pac 12 titles is #whyistayed.
I don't think it matters what our record was against those schools before. Petersen is supposed to be the guy that beats those teams, and he's not.
There’s really only been one guy in the past 30 yrs who was a slam dunk than Urbs going to tOSU. Saban had won a .5 natty but wasn’t GOAT yet. Harbaugh sucks. Chip 2.0 suck. Pete sucked through 2015. Now be sucks again.
This is why it’s more risk to @FirePete than stick it out for another 1- 2 years and see what happens.
I don’t know, but something is wrong with the coaching staff. Too many missed assignments, poor tackling, poor game management, stubbornness not to admit something is wrong, but more importantly the lack of confidence and edge on the team. Second half agains Oregon was pure mental breakdown by the coaches and the players
It was a coin flip game and ended as such. I can deal with this loss. Stanford and Cal are unacceptable. We can sit here as arm chair coaches and nit pick this or that but what ultimately matters is wins and losses and conference titles above all else. If he keeps winning the PAC 33.3% of the time he gets to stay. If not he can GTFO. Tick, tick, tick...
If you have a proven upgrade over Pete that is a slam dunk that we can hire, let me know. I’m in. But that dude better fucking win big time or you’re gonna be meeting me and lil’ piss at 7-11.
I am with you Yella. However there seems to be something off with the attitude or "culture" of the players. And I dont fucking understand it.
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I think Peterman should be getting criticized and he does do some shit that is downright retarded, but it doesn’t mean he’s a shitty coach and that we are fucked forever. That’s not to say he hasn’t been bad this year. Imo he’s completely fucked three games. In one of the three games were we clearly out talented. All were very, very winnable.
We’ve been good before and we’ll be good again. Natty is still the goal, but it’s really fucking hard.
Some of it is concerning, but not to the extent some of you take it. LIPO a bit.
I’m concerned because I really doubt it happens next year and I want it now. I haven’t completely given up tho. In the bigger picture. Pete’s a good coach and has a proven track record of developing players and winning.
Look, we aren't getting rid of him. I get it. And as much as I am pissed about this bullshit, that is probably the best idea. I wanted his ass fired Sunday, but I am an angry Injun who likes scalping whites - and Pete is as white bread as they come. A few days later I am still in full on "I hate Pete" mode, but brain synapses are now firing and I can see the logic in really hoping for that problematic 10% to change. I've said it, he is nails on the other 90%. But my issue with this logic that he probably shouldn't be canned is twofold.
1) We are HHBs, and if there is one thing about being an HHB it's demanding excellence and cutting bait when it isn't being met. So let's go to the tape (courtesy of PGOS):
Petersen is 2-4 against Oregon
Petersen is 2-4 against Stanford
Petersen is 2-3 against ASU
Petersen is 3-3 against Cal
Petersen is 0-2 against SEC teams
Petersen is 0-2 against good B1G teams
Petersen is 1-4 in Bowl Games
Take out everything else you think you know about Pete. Look at those numbers. Is that up to standards? It's not even close. It is objectively fucking terrible. This is a serious problem. He has feasted on beating up on the weakest Pac 12 of my lifetim and some scrub WAC programs. We are NEVER playing in a CFP or 3 straight NY6 games if the Oregon of 5 years ago or the USC of 12 years ago exist. This is a historically WEAK Pac-12 and we are getting good records beating up on shit teams, scheduling 2-3 for sure wins a year, and going sub .500 over 6 years against the ENTIRE Pac 12 North sans CUOG and Beav. Sure, ok, don't fire Pete, but WTF man? Being .500 against the Pac-12 North, losing all 4 games against the B1G and SEC, and going 1-4 in bowl games is shit.
TL;DR: Pete is not as "good" as his overall record indicates. This is a very average to slightly above average football team that has feasted on the Sisters of the Poor the last 6 years and gotten drilled whenever they play someone good.
2) Pete is stubborn. Everyone on this bored says it all the tim. It's the one thing we can agree on. Is it wise to wait for a few more years of data hoping that Pete makes the changes to erase that 10%? I don't know. At this point I find it unlikely he changes. I think it much more likely we continue to bounce between 8-5 and 11-2 winning the occasional shitty Pac-12 crown and getting ass blasted in any real bowel game.
So that's it. Yeah, I agree, Pete gets a couple more years to fix the 10% and unfuck this, but stop viewing him through purple colored glasses. This team is not as "good" as 3 Pac-12 Crowns in 6 years appears when you really look at the quality of the league and our scheduling, and our performance against "top teams" has been fucking abysmal.
So, I will grudgingly agree that it is a HUGE risk to go try to find lightning in a bottle with someone else, but there are clear warning signs here that must be dealt with now.
I'd give Pete a couple more years to see if he can work this out. But my patience for getting assblasted by shitty ass Cal every year is at an end. I hope Pete figures it out because 20 more years in the CFP wasteland would suck, but I'm with @Guntlove that we need to see changes NOW. Real changes. Not bandaid bullshit. Hamdan gone. Gregory gone. Minimum. A real signal that he is committed to a new way of doing business. I am past the "small measured" changes approach. Get your shit together Pete or put Swaye in charge!
Oh, and OT: every time I see that little girl gif, it reminds me of a photo of myself at about the same age around Halloween.
Except my tutu was blue.
And I was crushing a beer can.
There is no agreement and getting rid of a head coach to hire one of his assistants who isn't doing his job is insane
Thanks for listening