LOL SFGbob's source is the Manhattan Institute JFC
And MIT but Kunt's got to Kunt. You really believe I can't find that exact same information from other sources? The numbers are what they are, they didn't make them up.
LOL SFGbob's source is the Manhattan Institute JFC
And MIT but Kunt's got to Kunt. You really believe I can't find that exact same information from other sources? The numbers are what they are, they didn't make them up.
LOL SFGbob's source is the Manhattan Institute JFC
And MIT but Kunt's got to Kunt. You really believe I can't find that exact same information from other sources? The numbers are what they are, they didn't make them up.
#1. EVs and hybrids are not close. Tesla is no match for a Turbo 911. In driving quality, and feedback. Any 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile, track record. Won't even start on safety...
#2. Also, Tesla got caught with their pants down when their P100D test vehicle tested higher than another P100D in the world. They built a special ringer for C and D to test. Typical for new performance car entries for the free pub you read about. Let's let Porsche send a modified 911 Turbo S as well?? 🤔🤔
#3. Geothermal, wind and solar are terriblbly inefficient and not worthy of comparisons.
#4. Combustion engine efficiency improvements have far outpaced the EV and hybrid market. Turbo improvements, 10 speed transmissions, direct injection, cylinder deactivation, on and on. You can go 1100 miles in some modern pickups. No charging.
Example: An F150 today can tow 15,000 lbs and cruise at 22+ mpg running shit fuel. That same F150 in 1992 could tow 4,000 lbs and would be lucky to touch 14mpg.
Combustion powered cars aren't going away. They are just getting better and better.
When alternative energy scales for mass consumption someone will be there to cash in. It's not like nobody is working on it just because we dont have massive government intervention
Carbon purveyors have been cleaning some things up since the 60s
They’ve dragged their feet for decades. But you’re right. Traditional utilities have diversified into wind and solar at an increasing rate. The government could incentivize then to escalate that progress and we’d probably be better off. Better for the environment. Better for National security.
Even if you increase solar and wind, you still have to build the infrastructure for fossil fuel electrical generation. There's no way to store energy generated by wind and solar for the periods when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining.
I am aware that things are not currently set up for this. I’m saying we should set things up like this.
The technology for electrical storage on a massive scale doesn't exist.
Decentralized models are already effective at curbing waste and costs.
Where are all those decentralized electrical generation plants?
On the roof of a house. With a battery to store the excess and run at night.
Combine that with a transition away from coal towards nuclear power and you’d be making some serious gains.
So what's the charge time for your Tesla? 14 years?
Have you heard of a high speed charger? I know a few people that have driven thru Montana and such.
It's ignorant people like you that are afraid of change that stifle advancement and technology.
Really a house solar system high sorry charged at night? You are special!
Driving up the 5 in Kali I see a while bunch of Tesla's. Parked at Harris ranch trying to charge because they're stranded.
What if you live in Wyoming, and it's the middle of winter and the temperature doesn't get above 15 degrees for a week. Is solar power going to generate enough energy to keep that house warm? Same question applies to living on the coast in the NW. There were times during the winter growing up on the Oregon coast were you didn't see the sun for weeks and it rained every day. What do those people do?
When alternative energy scales for mass consumption someone will be there to cash in. It's not like nobody is working on it just because we dont have massive government intervention
Carbon purveyors have been cleaning some things up since the 60s
They’ve dragged their feet for decades. But you’re right. Traditional utilities have diversified into wind and solar at an increasing rate. The government could incentivize then to escalate that progress and we’d probably be better off. Better for the environment. Better for National security.
Even if you increase solar and wind, you still have to build the infrastructure for fossil fuel electrical generation. There's no way to store energy generated by wind and solar for the periods when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining.
I am aware that things are not currently set up for this. I’m saying we should set things up like this.
The technology for electrical storage on a massive scale doesn't exist.
Decentralized models are already effective at curbing waste and costs.
Where are all those decentralized electrical generation plants?
On the roof of a house. With a battery to store the excess and run at night.
Combine that with a transition away from coal towards nuclear power and you’d be making some serious gains.
So what's the charge time for your Tesla? 14 years?
Have you heard of a high speed charger? I know a few people that have driven thru Montana and such.
It's ignorant people like you that are afraid of change that stifle advancement and technology.
Really a house solar system high sorry charged at night? You are special!
Driving up the 5 in Kali I see a while bunch of Tesla's. Parked at Harris ranch trying to charge because they're stranded.
What if you live in Wyoming, and it's the middle of winter and the temperature doesn't get above 15 degrees for a week. Is solar power going to generate enough energy to keep that house warm? Same question applies to living on the coast in the NW. There were times during the winter growing up on the Oregon coast were you didn't see the sun for weeks and it rained every day. What do those people do?
Step 1: Sleep at night.
But have lots of blankets as there will be no power and no fuel!
Andrew Yang is thrilled his FS air travel ban policy and his support of the Green New Steal got lost in the maelstrom of solar, wind, and porsches vs teslas discussions.
When alternative energy scales for mass consumption someone will be there to cash in. It's not like nobody is working on it just because we dont have massive government intervention
Carbon purveyors have been cleaning some things up since the 60s
They’ve dragged their feet for decades. But you’re right. Traditional utilities have diversified into wind and solar at an increasing rate. The government could incentivize then to escalate that progress and we’d probably be better off. Better for the environment. Better for National security.
Even if you increase solar and wind, you still have to build the infrastructure for fossil fuel electrical generation. There's no way to store energy generated by wind and solar for the periods when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining.
I am aware that things are not currently set up for this. I’m saying we should set things up like this.
The technology for electrical storage on a massive scale doesn't exist.
Decentralized models are already effective at curbing waste and costs.
Where are all those decentralized electrical generation plants?
On the roof of a house. With a battery to store the excess and run at night.
Combine that with a transition away from coal towards nuclear power and you’d be making some serious gains.
This doesn't work at scale for business or industry. It barely works for residential. Full stop.
Nuclear baseload, solar for daytime usage, and natural gas for ramp up or ramp down. Offset by reforestation and curbing desertification. These are the droids you are looking for.
There's no other possible engineering solution with available technology unless you want forced rationing.
Yeah I’m cool with that. But I’m arguing with someone saying electric cars are bad because they can’t drive forever and solar is bad because it can’t charge 24 hours a day. Baby steps.
When alternative energy scales for mass consumption someone will be there to cash in. It's not like nobody is working on it just because we dont have massive government intervention
Carbon purveyors have been cleaning some things up since the 60s
They’ve dragged their feet for decades. But you’re right. Traditional utilities have diversified into wind and solar at an increasing rate. The government could incentivize then to escalate that progress and we’d probably be better off. Better for the environment. Better for National security.
Even if you increase solar and wind, you still have to build the infrastructure for fossil fuel electrical generation. There's no way to store energy generated by wind and solar for the periods when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining.
I am aware that things are not currently set up for this. I’m saying we should set things up like this.
The technology for electrical storage on a massive scale doesn't exist.
Decentralized models are already effective at curbing waste and costs.
Where are all those decentralized electrical generation plants?
On the roof of a house. With a battery to store the excess and run at night.
Combine that with a transition away from coal towards nuclear power and you’d be making some serious gains.
This doesn't work at scale for business or industry. It barely works for residential. Full stop.
Nuclear baseload, solar for daytime usage, and natural gas for ramp up or ramp down. Offset by reforestation and curbing desertification. These are the droids you are looking for.
There's no other possible engineering solution with available technology unless you want forced rationing.
Yeah I’m cool with that. But I’m arguing with someone saying electric cars are bad because they can’t drive forever and solar is bad because it can’t charge 24 hours a day. Baby steps.
You should of just hit them with big oil is already investing billions of dollars into renewable energy.
Sure they are. When billions of dollars of fed subsidies are available and states ate mandating renewable energy, then crony capitalists are going to crony. Nice point, dodo.
Sure they are. When billions of dollars of fed subsidies are available and states ate mandating renewable energy, then crony capitalists are going to crony. Nice point, dodo.
When alternative energy scales for mass consumption someone will be there to cash in. It's not like nobody is working on it just because we dont have massive government intervention
Carbon purveyors have been cleaning some things up since the 60s
They’ve dragged their feet for decades. But you’re right. Traditional utilities have diversified into wind and solar at an increasing rate. The government could incentivize then to escalate that progress and we’d probably be better off. Better for the environment. Better for National security.
Even if you increase solar and wind, you still have to build the infrastructure for fossil fuel electrical generation. There's no way to store energy generated by wind and solar for the periods when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining.
I am aware that things are not currently set up for this. I’m saying we should set things up like this.
The technology for electrical storage on a massive scale doesn't exist.
Decentralized models are already effective at curbing waste and costs.
Where are all those decentralized electrical generation plants?
On the roof of a house. With a battery to store the excess and run at night.
Combine that with a transition away from coal towards nuclear power and you’d be making some serious gains.
This doesn't work at scale for business or industry. It barely works for residential. Full stop.
Nuclear baseload, solar for daytime usage, and natural gas for ramp up or ramp down. Offset by reforestation and curbing desertification. These are the droids you are looking for.
There's no other possible engineering solution with available technology unless you want forced rationing.
Yeah I’m cool with that. But I’m arguing with someone saying electric cars are bad because they can’t drive forever and solar is bad because it can’t charge 24 hours a day. Baby steps.
You should of just hit them with big oil is already investing billions of dollars into renewable energy.
To be honest, I didn’t think that was something that needed to be said. I guess I’m giving people too much credit.
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#1. EVs and hybrids are not close. Tesla is no match for a Turbo 911. In driving quality, and feedback. Any 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile, track record. Won't even start on safety...
#2. Also, Tesla got caught with their pants down when their P100D test vehicle tested higher than another P100D in the world. They built a special ringer for C and D to test. Typical for new performance car entries for the free pub you read about. Let's let Porsche send a modified 911 Turbo S as well?? 🤔🤔
#3. Geothermal, wind and solar are terriblbly inefficient and not worthy of comparisons.
#4. Combustion engine efficiency improvements have far outpaced the EV and hybrid market. Turbo improvements, 10 speed transmissions, direct injection, cylinder deactivation, on and on. You can go 1100 miles in some modern pickups. No charging.
Example: An F150 today can tow 15,000 lbs and cruise at 22+ mpg running shit fuel. That same F150 in 1992 could tow 4,000 lbs and would be lucky to touch 14mpg.
Combustion powered cars aren't going away. They are just getting better and better.
Leave the gearhead talk to the gearheads.
And, you're carrying a 1-ton glass mat battery bomb strapped to the bottom of your 2-ton truck.
Sure...you can put YOUR kids in there.