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Chicom Coolie Ding Dong Yang wants to Ban Air Travel
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You should of just hit them with big oil is already investing billions of dollars into renewable energy.ThomasFremont said:
Yeah I’m cool with that. But I’m arguing with someone saying electric cars are bad because they can’t drive forever and solar is bad because it can’t charge 24 hours a day. Baby steps.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This doesn't work at scale for business or industry. It barely works for residential. Full stop.ThomasFremont said:
On the roof of a house. With a battery to store the excess and run at night.Sledog said:
Where are all those decentralized electrical generation plants?ThomasFremont said:
Decentralized models are already effective at curbing waste and costs.SFGbob said:
The technology for electrical storage on a massive scale doesn't exist.ThomasFremont said:
I am aware that things are not currently set up for this. I’m saying we should set things up like this.SFGbob said:
Even if you increase solar and wind, you still have to build the infrastructure for fossil fuel electrical generation. There's no way to store energy generated by wind and solar for the periods when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining.ThomasFremont said:
They’ve dragged their feet for decades. But you’re right. Traditional utilities have diversified into wind and solar at an increasing rate. The government could incentivize then to escalate that progress and we’d probably be better off. Better for the environment. Better for National security.RaceBannon said:Scale is the issue
When alternative energy scales for mass consumption someone will be there to cash in. It's not like nobody is working on it just because we dont have massive government intervention
Carbon purveyors have been cleaning some things up since the 60s
Combine that with a transition away from coal towards nuclear power and you’d be making some serious gains.
Nuclear baseload, solar for daytime usage, and natural gas for ramp up or ramp down. Offset by reforestation and curbing desertification. These are the droids you are looking for.
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Sure they are. When billions of dollars of fed subsidies are available and states ate mandating renewable energy, then crony capitalists are going to crony. Nice point, dodo.
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Wish I was in on the Solyndra deal! That was outright theft in the name of green. A bunch of people got filthy rich.
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This whole thing is subsidized you dolt.WestlinnDuck said:Sure they are. When billions of dollars of fed subsidies are available and states ate mandating renewable energy, then crony capitalists are going to crony. Nice point, dodo.
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To be honest, I didn’t think that was something that needed to be said. I guess I’m giving people too much credit.Gwad said:
You should of just hit them with big oil is already investing billions of dollars into renewable energy.ThomasFremont said:
Yeah I’m cool with that. But I’m arguing with someone saying electric cars are bad because they can’t drive forever and solar is bad because it can’t charge 24 hours a day. Baby steps.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This doesn't work at scale for business or industry. It barely works for residential. Full stop.ThomasFremont said:
On the roof of a house. With a battery to store the excess and run at night.Sledog said:
Where are all those decentralized electrical generation plants?ThomasFremont said:
Decentralized models are already effective at curbing waste and costs.SFGbob said:
The technology for electrical storage on a massive scale doesn't exist.ThomasFremont said:
I am aware that things are not currently set up for this. I’m saying we should set things up like this.SFGbob said:
Even if you increase solar and wind, you still have to build the infrastructure for fossil fuel electrical generation. There's no way to store energy generated by wind and solar for the periods when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining.ThomasFremont said:
They’ve dragged their feet for decades. But you’re right. Traditional utilities have diversified into wind and solar at an increasing rate. The government could incentivize then to escalate that progress and we’d probably be better off. Better for the environment. Better for National security.RaceBannon said:Scale is the issue
When alternative energy scales for mass consumption someone will be there to cash in. It's not like nobody is working on it just because we dont have massive government intervention
Carbon purveyors have been cleaning some things up since the 60s
Combine that with a transition away from coal towards nuclear power and you’d be making some serious gains.
Nuclear baseload, solar for daytime usage, and natural gas for ramp up or ramp down. Offset by reforestation and curbing desertification. These are the droids you are looking for.
There's no other possible engineering solution with available technology unless you want forced rationing. -
So what does that have to do with Thomas's non-point?
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That hybrid SUVs still get worse mileage than new gasser and diesel SUVs.WestlinnDuck said:So what does that have to do with Thomas's non-point?
And, you're carrying a 1-ton glass mat battery bomb strapped to the bottom of your 2-ton truck.
Sure...you can put YOUR kids in there.
