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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213
    Isn’t broadband available anywhere that has cable TV?

    If you don’t have broadband today it’s not likely it’s because it’s not available to you
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    GDS said:

    160 million Americans lack high speed terrestrial broadband. In today’s economy with the skills people need to gain that’s absolutely a collective need and puts us behind other world powers. We need to improve our infrastructure and broadband is absolutely part of that.

    You know where a lot of those people live, yes?
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,182 Standard Supporter
    The purpose of government is to provide services, infrastructure and defense that the private sector can't or won't take on.

    If the cost of providing essentially the national highway system of the 21st Century to rural areas, so be it. If the private sector is not providing comparable 'roads' and is cherry-picking only high volume/high traffic metropolitan areas without making any attempt to upgrade the rurals, that's a problem. We? need farmers and agrarians to feed the masses in the cities. We need them to want to stay in the wheatfields and ranches growing goddamned delicious food. A national high-speed network is something The Throbber can get behind.

    Now, that said (and Jake Browning still does suck), the only caveat would be if the gubmint makes a concerted effort to track, monitor and prohibit interweb usage....that ain't cool. Treat it like a utility - and I'm 99.9% sure the power company doesn't know when I plug in my dildo phone charger, I sure as fuck don't want Big Bro watching porn with me over my cyber-shoulder.

  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,182 Standard Supporter

    Y

    The purpose of government is to provide services, infrastructure and defense that the private sector can't or won't take on.

    If the cost of providing essentially the national highway system of the 21st Century to rural areas, so be it. If the private sector is not providing comparable 'roads' and is cherry-picking only high volume/high traffic metropolitan areas without making any attempt to upgrade the rurals, that's a problem. We? need farmers and agrarians to feed the masses in the cities. We need them to want to stay in the wheatfields and ranches growing goddamned delicious food. A national high-speed network is something The Throbber can get behind.

    Now, that said (and Jake Browning still does suck), the only caveat would be if the gubmint makes a concerted effort to track, monitor and prohibit interweb usage....that ain't cool. Treat it like a utility - and I'm 99.9% sure the power company doesn't know when I plug in my dildo phone charger, I sure as fuck don't want Big Bro watching porn with me over my cyber-shoulder.

    That could never happen.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System
    Dat's why the Throbber is against those Chi-Com type shenanigans.

    But even the coeds with daddy issues living in Pullman deserve some good broadband service, don't you think?

    #webcams

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,848 Founders Club
    I have access to the internets
  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470

    Tired of these giant food companies running away with taxpayer dollars. We need to invest the office of food access to make sure every home has food.

    You realize you are describing SNAP administered by the USDA right...
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter
    GDS said:

    160 million Americans lack high speed terrestrial broadband. In today’s economy with the skills people need to gain that’s absolutely a collective need and puts us behind other world powers. We need to improve our infrastructure and broadband is absolutely part of that.

    Comrade you can not luxuries! It is hard enough to produce the bread!
  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,016 Standard Supporter
    GDS said:

    Next thing you know they will want to build a nationwide freeway system. Fucking commies wanting to invest in infrastructure.

    The federal government pays private companies to build and maintain federal roads. States still have states rights with federal roads in them. This is a totally different socialistic concept that would undoubtedly be a vehicle for liberals to control content and brain wash the country like they have done in many schools across the nation. Hell it was only a couple years ago when your leaders were trying to control content on television and radio so they could limit FOX and Conservative radio broadcasts. I would say this fits right in with their plan. Not to mention it is another give away by liberals to further enslave people to government programs.

    Life is lived just fine without free high speed internet.

    Can you possibly be more of a shallow thinker? I didn't think so but you continue to surprise.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,182 Standard Supporter

    GDS said:

    Next thing you know they will want to build a nationwide freeway system. Fucking commies wanting to invest in infrastructure.

    The federal government pays private companies to build and maintain federal roads. States still have states rights with federal roads in them. This is a totally different socialistic concept that would undoubtedly be a vehicle for liberals to control content and brain wash the country like they have done in many schools across the nation. Hell it was only a couple years ago when your leaders were trying to control content on television and radio so they could limit FOX and Conservative radio broadcasts. I would say this fits right in with their plan. Not to mention it is another give away by liberals to further enslave people to government programs.

    Life is lived just fine without free high speed internet.

    Can you possibly be more of a shallow thinker? I didn't think so but you continue to surprise.
    Government surveillance and monitoring is BY FAR the biggest argument against government involvement in building out a better network. And rightfully so. However, that doesn't mean it's not a good idea or needed. It's absolutely needed, especially in rural areas.

    So, the question is not whether there is a need - the question is how fast can the need be filled and how to protect against intrusion into one's privacy?

    If we? are smart enough to build out something as technologically advanced as 5G, 6G, 9G or whatever the latest and greatest is, we are certainly smart enough to figure out how to build in protections. To summarily dismiss is because it is government built is short-sighted. Without government intervention, there wouldn't be freeways, dams (WAR SALMON LADDERS!) or a public education system. It can be done - it has to be done. It just has to be done with individual's privacy and anonymity protected.

    Like I said, the power company doesn't know when I plug in my dildo phone charger. The internet provider doesn't need to know or record every single website I visit either. Though I'm fairly certain they already do.

  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,016 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2019
    I have a lake house in middle Georgia. It really doesn't get more rural than that and my Dish network provides ample internet speeds. There are already many other private services in rural areas that provide cheap internet service. The service is already there.

    You mention dams, freeways etc. Totally different. Again, we already have service in all rural areas. There is no need. You also mentioned public schools and it is clearly over run by liberals so that is not a good example, you are making my point with that one.

    There is no protection from democrats when they are in charge. They will use that internet service as a weapon. They have already tried to take control of the messaging through legislation but it fails every time. I don't want anything to do with it. Using the liberal garbage that we have now for search engines and home pages is bad enough.

    On the guarantee privacy? I think we have seen how democrats treat ones privacy. Between these nutcases this week and BO's wiretapping of the White House and Fox Journalists, they can't be trusted.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,182 Standard Supporter

    I have a lake house in middle Georgia. It really doesn't get more rural than that and my Dish network provides ample internet speeds. There are already many other private services in rural areas that provide cheap internet service. The service is already there.

    You mention dams, freeways etc. Totally different. Again, we already have service in all rural areas. There is no need. You also mentioned public schools and it is clearly over run by liberals so that is not a good example, you are making my point with that one.

    There is no protection from democrats when they are in charge. They will use that internet service as a weapon. They have already tried to take control of the messaging through legislation but it fails every time. I don't want anything to do with it. Using the liberal garbage that we have now for search engines and home pages is bad enough.

    On the guarantee privacy? I think we have seen how democrats treat ones privacy. Between these nutcases this week and BO's wiretapping of the White House and Fox Journalists, they can't be trusted.

    We'll agree to disagree as to adequate internet coverage. It's a whole different world between being able to stream Netflix off HughesNet and competing in the tech, robotics, AI and a host of other industries that we can't even imagine at this point. It's quite feasible that a physician at Fred Hutch could be performing surgery in podunk Wyoming via robots and uber-high-speed broadband as one example.

    With the skyrocketing cost of housing in Seattle, SF and a number of other metro areas, why not give younger people the same tools as their big city counterparts and allow them to live off the grid or in Genesee, Idaho and live in a palace? That eases demand on housing (thus easing skyrocketing prices), reduces congestion and adds to the tax base of those less than privileged states that everyone always wants to point to as being subsidized year after year.

    We will agree on the fact that government overreach (whether it's Republicans or Democrats, they both do it....you seem to forget this guy named Nixon wiretapping and Cheney/Bush wildly expanding the government's intrusion under the Patriot Act). THAT'S the crux of the matter.

    Solutions needed, not uniform colors.


  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,506 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    GDS said:

    Next thing you know they will want to build a nationwide freeway system. Fucking commies wanting to invest in infrastructure.

    Then public colleges and universities. It's madness!
    and look how the universities are churning out millenials with young skulls full of Marxist mush
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    GDS said:

    Next thing you know they will want to build a nationwide freeway system. Fucking commies wanting to invest in infrastructure.

    The federal government pays private companies to build and maintain federal roads. States still have states rights with federal roads in them. This is a totally different socialistic concept that would undoubtedly be a vehicle for liberals to control content and brain wash the country like they have done in many schools across the nation. Hell it was only a couple years ago when your leaders were trying to control content on television and radio so they could limit FOX and Conservative radio broadcasts. I would say this fits right in with their plan. Not to mention it is another give away by liberals to further enslave people to government programs.

    Life is lived just fine without free high speed internet.

    Can you possibly be more of a shallow thinker? I didn't think so but you continue to surprise.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213
    GDS said:

    Tired of these giant food companies running away with taxpayer dollars. We need to invest the office of food access to make sure every home has food.

    You realize you are describing SNAP administered by the USDA right...
    Which you support.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213
    You know what else you often can't find in rural areas? Decent restaurants, entertainment and shopping options. I demand the Federal government provide these essential services.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    Tired of these giant food companies running away with taxpayer dollars. We need to invest the office of food access to make sure every home has food.

    You realize you are describing SNAP administered by the USDA right...
    Which you support.
    Yes giving food to families with kids is fucking awful. They should starve.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    Tired of these giant food companies running away with taxpayer dollars. We need to invest the office of food access to make sure every home has food.

    You realize you are describing SNAP administered by the USDA right...
    Which you support.
    Yes giving food to families with kids is fucking awful. They should starve.
    Yes because creating a system that is ripe with $Billions in fraud and abuse that doesn't just go to kids with families and allows people to buy junk food and soda is fucking great.
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