They are no longer pretending.
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Didn't Warren shoot a bunch of people in Dayton?
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Does the government need to pave the dirt road you chose to live off?
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Ajit Pai's numbers are of course bullshitSFGbob said:
the Report finds that approximately 19 million Americans—6 percent of the population—still lack access to fixed broadband service at threshold speeds. In rural areas, nearly one-fourth of the population —14.5 million people—lack access to this service. In tribal areas, nearly one-third of the population lacks access. Even in areas where broadband is available, approximately 100 million Americans still do not subscribe. The report concludes that until the Commission’s Connect America reforms are fully implemented, these gaps are unlikely to close. Because millions still lack access to or have not adopted broadband, the Report concludes broadband is not yet being deployed in a reasonable and timely fashion.
https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/reports/broadband-progress-reports/eighth-broadband-progress-report
https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-fcc-massively-overstating-how-many-americans-have-broadband-access/
The company says there is a major problem with the FCC's reliance on Form 477, which asks providers whether they are "providing or could …without an extraordinary commitment of resources provide broadband service to an area".
If the provider answers yes to either question, the FCC considers the area covered, even if the area isn't and the provider has no plans to.
Hey Company XYZ could you maybe somehow provide broadband access to BFE?
ummmm...sure...but we have no plans to?
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If they can but they don't then it doesn't make business sense
But a commie wouldn't have a grasp of that -
It's bound to happen unless you're a complete sycophant cockgobbler like Hondo or Gaybob.PurpleThrobber said:
You clearly haven't read anything I posted.SFGbob said:
6% of the population lacks access to high speed internet. How many of that 6% even wants high speed internet? There is no fucking way we should create a massive federal bureaucracy to satisfy the desire of 3% (and that number is being charitable) of the population. Part of living in the sticks is about the things you choose to go without and I say this as someone who grew up in the sticks and who still has relatives that live in areas that lack high speed internet.PurpleThrobber said:You guys live in the outer zone of food stamps too much when it comes to situations where government can actually do some good.
When I'm talking rural high speed access, I"m talking like farmers, ranchers, maybe young people who are techies and want to keep living Bumfuck, Montana and take care of grandpa instead of venturing to the godforsaken city of Seattle or San Fran.
Not everybody has a T-1 line or Google fiber running along their dirt road.
You've got your Fios. Fuck those who live elsewhere or would consider living elsewhere than the mecca of tech.
Christ, now I have to go give myself another timeout. This sucks being on the left. -
Hurtfuldflea said:
It's bound to happen unless you're a complete sycophant cockgobbler like Hondo or Gaybob.PurpleThrobber said:
You clearly haven't read anything I posted.SFGbob said:
6% of the population lacks access to high speed internet. How many of that 6% even wants high speed internet? There is no fucking way we should create a massive federal bureaucracy to satisfy the desire of 3% (and that number is being charitable) of the population. Part of living in the sticks is about the things you choose to go without and I say this as someone who grew up in the sticks and who still has relatives that live in areas that lack high speed internet.PurpleThrobber said:You guys live in the outer zone of food stamps too much when it comes to situations where government can actually do some good.
When I'm talking rural high speed access, I"m talking like farmers, ranchers, maybe young people who are techies and want to keep living Bumfuck, Montana and take care of grandpa instead of venturing to the godforsaken city of Seattle or San Fran.
Not everybody has a T-1 line or Google fiber running along their dirt road.
You've got your Fios. Fuck those who live elsewhere or would consider living elsewhere than the mecca of tech.
Christ, now I have to go give myself another timeout. This sucks being on the left. -
Any place that has access to cable TV has access to high speed internet.GDS said:
Ajit Pai's numbers are of course bullshitSFGbob said:
the Report finds that approximately 19 million Americans—6 percent of the population—still lack access to fixed broadband service at threshold speeds. In rural areas, nearly one-fourth of the population —14.5 million people—lack access to this service. In tribal areas, nearly one-third of the population lacks access. Even in areas where broadband is available, approximately 100 million Americans still do not subscribe. The report concludes that until the Commission’s Connect America reforms are fully implemented, these gaps are unlikely to close. Because millions still lack access to or have not adopted broadband, the Report concludes broadband is not yet being deployed in a reasonable and timely fashion.
https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/reports/broadband-progress-reports/eighth-broadband-progress-report
https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-fcc-massively-overstating-how-many-americans-have-broadband-access/
The company says there is a major problem with the FCC's reliance on Form 477, which asks providers whether they are "providing or could …without an extraordinary commitment of resources provide broadband service to an area".
If the provider answers yes to either question, the FCC considers the area covered, even if the area isn't and the provider has no plans to.
Hey Company XYZ could you maybe somehow provide broadband access to BFE?
ummmm...sure...but we have no plans to?
ok we'll go ahead and count that!
You lied Kunt. -
Why run power lines and water and roads out there...broadband should be treated like a public utility as it becoming just as essential.RaceBannon said:If they can but they don't then it doesn't make business sense
But a commie wouldn't have a grasp of that -
There are plenty of people in this country who have access to broadband and choose not to have it. Don't know too many people who have access to both electricity and running water that choose to go without.GDS said:
Why run power lines and water and roads out there...broadband should be treated like a public utility as it becoming just as essential.RaceBannon said:If they can but they don't then it doesn't make business sense
But a commie wouldn't have a grasp of that
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Good questionGDS said:
Why run power lines and water and roads out there...broadband should be treated like a public utility as it becoming just as essential.RaceBannon said:If they can but they don't then it doesn't make business sense
But a commie wouldn't have a grasp of that
Live off the grid with solar and a well -
You know the talk about people moving into pristine lands? The talk everytime a mountain lion mauls someone, "We're encroaching on their environment!" The decrease of wild lands and so on. Public construction of infrastructure is responsible.GDS said:
Why run power lines and water and roads out there...broadband should be treated like a public utility as it becoming just as essential.RaceBannon said:If they can but they don't then it doesn't make business sense
But a commie wouldn't have a grasp of that -
You should add if you can get satellite tv you can get internet. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere you can get Internet(small numbers). I do believe there are millions that can't afford what's offered IMO.SFGbob said:
Any place that has access to cable TV has access to high speed internet.GDS said:
Ajit Pai's numbers are of course bullshitSFGbob said:
the Report finds that approximately 19 million Americans—6 percent of the population—still lack access to fixed broadband service at threshold speeds. In rural areas, nearly one-fourth of the population —14.5 million people—lack access to this service. In tribal areas, nearly one-third of the population lacks access. Even in areas where broadband is available, approximately 100 million Americans still do not subscribe. The report concludes that until the Commission’s Connect America reforms are fully implemented, these gaps are unlikely to close. Because millions still lack access to or have not adopted broadband, the Report concludes broadband is not yet being deployed in a reasonable and timely fashion.
https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/reports/broadband-progress-reports/eighth-broadband-progress-report
https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-fcc-massively-overstating-how-many-americans-have-broadband-access/
The company says there is a major problem with the FCC's reliance on Form 477, which asks providers whether they are "providing or could …without an extraordinary commitment of resources provide broadband service to an area".
If the provider answers yes to either question, the FCC considers the area covered, even if the area isn't and the provider has no plans to.
Hey Company XYZ could you maybe somehow provide broadband access to BFE?
ummmm...sure...but we have no plans to?
ok we'll go ahead and count that!
You lied Kunt. -
One time at band camp.....dflea said:
It's bound to happen unless you're a complete sycophant cockgobbler like Hondo or Gaybob.PurpleThrobber said:
You clearly haven't read anything I posted.SFGbob said:
6% of the population lacks access to high speed internet. How many of that 6% even wants high speed internet? There is no fucking way we should create a massive federal bureaucracy to satisfy the desire of 3% (and that number is being charitable) of the population. Part of living in the sticks is about the things you choose to go without and I say this as someone who grew up in the sticks and who still has relatives that live in areas that lack high speed internet.PurpleThrobber said:You guys live in the outer zone of food stamps too much when it comes to situations where government can actually do some good.
When I'm talking rural high speed access, I"m talking like farmers, ranchers, maybe young people who are techies and want to keep living Bumfuck, Montana and take care of grandpa instead of venturing to the godforsaken city of Seattle or San Fran.
Not everybody has a T-1 line or Google fiber running along their dirt road.
You've got your Fios. Fuck those who live elsewhere or would consider living elsewhere than the mecca of tech.
Christ, now I have to go give myself another timeout. This sucks being on the left.
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Yeah, there's a 100 Million people living in those white areas. Scotty is such a lying piece of crap.
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Yeah I know, but I wasn't sure if that qualified as "Broadband" and I knew that would be Scotty's next dodge.HustlinOwl said:
You should add if you can get satellite tv you can get internet. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere you can get Internet(small numbers). I do believe there are millions that can't afford what's offered IMO.SFGbob said:
Any place that has access to cable TV has access to high speed internet.GDS said:
Ajit Pai's numbers are of course bullshitSFGbob said:
the Report finds that approximately 19 million Americans—6 percent of the population—still lack access to fixed broadband service at threshold speeds. In rural areas, nearly one-fourth of the population —14.5 million people—lack access to this service. In tribal areas, nearly one-third of the population lacks access. Even in areas where broadband is available, approximately 100 million Americans still do not subscribe. The report concludes that until the Commission’s Connect America reforms are fully implemented, these gaps are unlikely to close. Because millions still lack access to or have not adopted broadband, the Report concludes broadband is not yet being deployed in a reasonable and timely fashion.
https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/reports/broadband-progress-reports/eighth-broadband-progress-report
https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-fcc-massively-overstating-how-many-americans-have-broadband-access/
The company says there is a major problem with the FCC's reliance on Form 477, which asks providers whether they are "providing or could …without an extraordinary commitment of resources provide broadband service to an area".
If the provider answers yes to either question, the FCC considers the area covered, even if the area isn't and the provider has no plans to.
Hey Company XYZ could you maybe somehow provide broadband access to BFE?
ummmm...sure...but we have no plans to?
ok we'll go ahead and count that!
You lied Kunt. -
Ya - citing stats and facts is lying. It's 162.9 million Blob...fuck off.SFGbob said:
Yeah, there's a 100 Million people living in those white areas. Scotty is such a lying piece of crap. -
What facts? You cited numbers about the people who "lacked" broadband and then left out the information that most of the people who "lack" it have chosen to go without it.GDS said:
Ya - citing stats and facts is lying. It's 162.9 million Blob...fuck off.SFGbob said:
Yeah, there's a 100 Million people living in those white areas. Scotty is such a lying piece of crap.
Fucking liar. -
Remember when Scotty the fraud used to claim he was a Republican? Now he wants the Federal Government to pay for people's internet access.
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ahhhh now there's the strawman king we all love. Broadband shouldn't be free but it should absolutely be treated as a utility. I love it when you start flailing and then bring up that I have voted in Republican primary.SFGbob said:Remember when Scotty the fraud used to claim he was a Republican? Now he wants the Federal Government to pay for people's internet access.
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no basis for that statement of course. Fucking liar.SFGbob said:
What facts? You cited numbers about the people who "lacked" broadband and then left out the information that most of the people who "lack" it have chosen to go without it.GDS said:
Ya - citing stats and facts is lying. It's 162.9 million Blob...fuck off.SFGbob said:
Yeah, there's a 100 Million people living in those white areas. Scotty is such a lying piece of crap.
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Fuck you Scott, you want the Federal Government to incur the cost of providing people with high speed internet. I didn't say you thought BB should be free, liar. I bring up the fact you're a liar and a fraud.GDS said:
ahhhh now there's the strawman king we all love. Broadband shouldn't be free but it should absolutely be treated as a utility. I love it when you start flailing and then bring up that I have voted in Republican primary.SFGbob said:Remember when Scotty the fraud used to claim he was a Republican? Now he wants the Federal Government to pay for people's internet access.
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the Report finds that approximately 19 million Americans—6 percent of the population—still lack access to fixed broadband service at threshold speeds. In rural areas, nearly one-fourth of the population —14.5 million people—lack access to this service. In tribal areas, nearly one-third of the population lacks access. Even in areas where broadband is available, approximately 100 million Americans still do not subscribe.GDS said:
no basis for that statement of course. Fucking liar.SFGbob said:
What facts? You cited numbers about the people who "lacked" broadband and then left out the information that most of the people who "lack" it have chosen to go without it.GDS said:
Ya - citing stats and facts is lying. It's 162.9 million Blob...fuck off.SFGbob said:
Yeah, there's a 100 Million people living in those white areas. Scotty is such a lying piece of crap.
Fucking liar.
Yeah, there's just no basis for that statement. Fucking hack. -
Scotty the dumbfuck thinks there are a 160 million people living in those non-purple areas.HustlinOwl said:
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Because Verizon cell coverage is equivalent to 25 mbps min terrestrial based broadband...really flailing here Blob. Sad.SFGbob said:
Scotty the dumbfuck thinks there are a 160 million people living in those non-purple areas.HustlinOwl said:
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Fine you're stupid enough to believe that there are 160 million people living in the non-red areas of the map I posted.GDS said:
Because Verizon cell coverage is equivalent to 25 mbps min terrestrial based broadband...really flailing here Blob. Sad.SFGbob said:
Scotty the dumbfuck thinks there are a 160 million people living in those non-purple areas.HustlinOwl said:
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This thread is proceeding according to plan.
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Is this where I call you a dumbfuck for being unable to understand the Microsoft report?SFGbob said:
Fine you're stupid enough to believe that there are 160 million people living in the non-red areas of the map I posted.GDS said:
Because Verizon cell coverage is equivalent to 25 mbps min terrestrial based broadband...really flailing here Blob. Sad.SFGbob said:
Scotty the dumbfuck thinks there are a 160 million people living in those non-purple areas.HustlinOwl said: -
You are trying to say that there's a massive failing of internet service provided to one of the most developed and accessible markets in the world despite huge geographic challenges.GDS said:
Is this where I call you a dumbfuck for being unable to understand the Microsoft report?SFGbob said:
Fine you're stupid enough to believe that there are 160 million people living in the non-red areas of the map I posted.GDS said:
Because Verizon cell coverage is equivalent to 25 mbps min terrestrial based broadband...really flailing here Blob. Sad.SFGbob said:
Scotty the dumbfuck thinks there are a 160 million people living in those non-purple areas.HustlinOwl said:
Then you double down by saying the government is going to be the one to fix it with what will soon be obsolete tech.
You probably are an advocate for returning to government run markets for airfare as well. StatistFS. -
His antipathy towards the sage grouse is well documented.UW_Doog_Bot said:
You are trying to say that there's a massive failing of internet service provided to one of the most developed and accessible markets in the world despite huge geographic challenges.GDS said:
Is this where I call you a dumbfuck for being unable to understand the Microsoft report?SFGbob said:
Fine you're stupid enough to believe that there are 160 million people living in the non-red areas of the map I posted.GDS said:
Because Verizon cell coverage is equivalent to 25 mbps min terrestrial based broadband...really flailing here Blob. Sad.SFGbob said:
Scotty the dumbfuck thinks there are a 160 million people living in those non-purple areas.HustlinOwl said:
Then you double down by saying the government is going to be the one to fix it with what will soon be obsolete tech.
You probably are an advocate for returning to government run markets for airfare as well. StatistFS.
