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    lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    There's no difference. Those guys you mentioned all started playing for UW as RS Freshman and UW's defense was really good with them playing as RS Freshman. It's the same with Tuli and Taki. Talent wins. Experience is for mediocre programs that don't have a lot of talent.


    Those players had the benefit of playing next to someone experienced and talented. We can go around in circles on this but the 2019 season is new territory for UW. We just aren’t going to agree. The fact that you concede nothing is blockheaded.

    I am sure Taki and Tuli will be good and flash dominance. They will also make some frosh mistakes too. UW is in for another 3 loss season in the the regular season.
    You keep trying to find excuses man. Tuli and Taki will be paired with one of the veteran older guys when they play so they have someone on the field they can communicate with who knows the defense inside and out. The top-4 rotation will be Taki and Levi and then Tuli and Benning. They'll be fine.

    UW is going anywhere from 10-2 to 12-0. Cal is a trap game because of their defense and UW's offense breaking in a new QB and RB. After that, they'll be favored to win every game because all their toughest games are at home. Their defense will dominate. Run game will dominate. It's just a matter of getting the passing game dialed in to decide if they go to the Rose Bowl or the Playoffs.
    9-3
    If they had a big non conference game the first game of the season while breaking in a new QB and RB, I'd say 9-3 is a possibility. But that's not the case. UW's defense will be too dominant for them to lose more than two games with their schedule and the offense would have to absolutely shit themselves for those two losses to happen. Our secondary is literally the best we've ever had under Petersen and nobody outside of UW fans knows it, yet.
    Just an FYI, but the two individuals that said Eason is not all that said the same about the secondary. I do expect the secondary to very talented. With inexperience all over the field, I’d expect some frosh mistakes.
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    lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    lawsandl said:

    There's no difference. Those guys you mentioned all started playing for UW as RS Freshman and UW's defense was really good with them playing as RS Freshman. It's the same with Tuli and Taki. Talent wins. Experience is for mediocre programs that don't have a lot of talent.


    Those players had the benefit of playing next to someone experienced and talented. We can go around in circles on this but the 2019 season is new territory for UW. We just aren’t going to agree. The fact that you concede nothing is blockheaded.

    I am sure Taki and Tuli will be good and flash dominance. They will also make some frosh mistakes too. UW is in for another 3 loss season in the the regular season.
    Yeah, and vea wasn't shelton, and gaines wasn't vea, and now Levi won't be gaines.

    If you want to talk about how we still won't have a pass rush, go for it but the interior D-line is going to be more than enough to squish the shit out of the PAC12. The question mark is if we have enough depth and experience to last into bowel season and compete with bigger fish. Not if we can continue to have a good Dline regular season.

    Again, I am not saying the dline will suck but that there will be some regression.
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    BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    There's no difference. Those guys you mentioned all started playing for UW as RS Freshman and UW's defense was really good with them playing as RS Freshman. It's the same with Tuli and Taki. Talent wins. Experience is for mediocre programs that don't have a lot of talent.


    Those players had the benefit of playing next to someone experienced and talented. We can go around in circles on this but the 2019 season is new territory for UW. We just aren’t going to agree. The fact that you concede nothing is blockheaded.

    I am sure Taki and Tuli will be good and flash dominance. They will also make some frosh mistakes too. UW is in for another 3 loss season in the the regular season.
    You keep trying to find excuses man. Tuli and Taki will be paired with one of the veteran older guys when they play so they have someone on the field they can communicate with who knows the defense inside and out. The top-4 rotation will be Taki and Levi and then Tuli and Benning. They'll be fine.

    UW is going anywhere from 10-2 to 12-0. Cal is a trap game because of their defense and UW's offense breaking in a new QB and RB. After that, they'll be favored to win every game because all their toughest games are at home. Their defense will dominate. Run game will dominate. It's just a matter of getting the passing game dialed in to decide if they go to the Rose Bowl or the Playoffs.
    9-3
    If they had a big non conference game the first game of the season while breaking in a new QB and RB, I'd say 9-3 is a possibility. But that's not the case. UW's defense will be too dominant for them to lose more than two games with their schedule and the offense would have to absolutely shit themselves for those two losses to happen. Our secondary is literally the best we've ever had under Petersen and nobody outside of UW fans knows it, yet.
    Just an FYI, but the two individuals that said Eason is not all that said the same about the secondary. I do expect the secondary to very talented. With inexperience all over the field, I’d expect some frosh mistakes.
    Then your source is full of shit. Lake said this is the best overall secondary he's had here back in the Spring. ANd they're not Freshman. Keith Taylor and Elijah Molden are true Juniors who have played a lot. Myles Bryant is a true Senior who has played a lot and has been a starter the past two seasons. They have experience with youth mixed in.
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    BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    There's no difference. Those guys you mentioned all started playing for UW as RS Freshman and UW's defense was really good with them playing as RS Freshman. It's the same with Tuli and Taki. Talent wins. Experience is for mediocre programs that don't have a lot of talent.


    Those players had the benefit of playing next to someone experienced and talented. We can go around in circles on this but the 2019 season is new territory for UW. We just aren’t going to agree. The fact that you concede nothing is blockheaded.

    I am sure Taki and Tuli will be good and flash dominance. They will also make some frosh mistakes too. UW is in for another 3 loss season in the the regular season.
    Yeah, and vea wasn't shelton, and gaines wasn't vea, and now Levi won't be gaines.

    If you want to talk about how we still won't have a pass rush, go for it but the interior D-line is going to be more than enough to squish the shit out of the PAC12. The question mark is if we have enough depth and experience to last into bowel season and compete with bigger fish. Not if we can continue to have a good Dline regular season.

    Again, I am not saying the dline will suck but that there will be some regression.
    There won't be. They are more talented than last season. They only lost Gaines and will replace him with two stud RS Freshman NT's.
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    lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    There's no difference. Those guys you mentioned all started playing for UW as RS Freshman and UW's defense was really good with them playing as RS Freshman. It's the same with Tuli and Taki. Talent wins. Experience is for mediocre programs that don't have a lot of talent.


    Those players had the benefit of playing next to someone experienced and talented. We can go around in circles on this but the 2019 season is new territory for UW. We just aren’t going to agree. The fact that you concede nothing is blockheaded.

    I am sure Taki and Tuli will be good and flash dominance. They will also make some frosh mistakes too. UW is in for another 3 loss season in the the regular season.
    You keep trying to find excuses man. Tuli and Taki will be paired with one of the veteran older guys when they play so they have someone on the field they can communicate with who knows the defense inside and out. The top-4 rotation will be Taki and Levi and then Tuli and Benning. They'll be fine.

    UW is going anywhere from 10-2 to 12-0. Cal is a trap game because of their defense and UW's offense breaking in a new QB and RB. After that, they'll be favored to win every game because all their toughest games are at home. Their defense will dominate. Run game will dominate. It's just a matter of getting the passing game dialed in to decide if they go to the Rose Bowl or the Playoffs.
    9-3
    If they had a big non conference game the first game of the season while breaking in a new QB and RB, I'd say 9-3 is a possibility. But that's not the case. UW's defense will be too dominant for them to lose more than two games with their schedule and the offense would have to absolutely shit themselves for those two losses to happen. Our secondary is literally the best we've ever had under Petersen and nobody outside of UW fans knows it, yet.
    Just an FYI, but the two individuals that said Eason is not all that said the same about the secondary. I do expect the secondary to very talented. With inexperience all over the field, I’d expect some frosh mistakes.
    Then your source is full of shit. Lake said this is the best overall secondary he's had here back in the Spring. ANd they're not Freshman. Keith Taylor and Elijah Molden are true Juniors who have played a lot. Myles Bryant is a true Senior who has played a lot and has been a starter the past two seasons. They have experience with youth mixed in.
    They echoed what you said. It was poorly written.
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    BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    edited July 2019
    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    There's no difference. Those guys you mentioned all started playing for UW as RS Freshman and UW's defense was really good with them playing as RS Freshman. It's the same with Tuli and Taki. Talent wins. Experience is for mediocre programs that don't have a lot of talent.


    Those players had the benefit of playing next to someone experienced and talented. We can go around in circles on this but the 2019 season is new territory for UW. We just aren’t going to agree. The fact that you concede nothing is blockheaded.

    I am sure Taki and Tuli will be good and flash dominance. They will also make some frosh mistakes too. UW is in for another 3 loss season in the the regular season.
    You keep trying to find excuses man. Tuli and Taki will be paired with one of the veteran older guys when they play so they have someone on the field they can communicate with who knows the defense inside and out. The top-4 rotation will be Taki and Levi and then Tuli and Benning. They'll be fine.

    UW is going anywhere from 10-2 to 12-0. Cal is a trap game because of their defense and UW's offense breaking in a new QB and RB. After that, they'll be favored to win every game because all their toughest games are at home. Their defense will dominate. Run game will dominate. It's just a matter of getting the passing game dialed in to decide if they go to the Rose Bowl or the Playoffs.
    9-3
    If they had a big non conference game the first game of the season while breaking in a new QB and RB, I'd say 9-3 is a possibility. But that's not the case. UW's defense will be too dominant for them to lose more than two games with their schedule and the offense would have to absolutely shit themselves for those two losses to happen. Our secondary is literally the best we've ever had under Petersen and nobody outside of UW fans knows it, yet.
    Just an FYI, but the two individuals that said Eason is not all that said the same about the secondary. I do expect the secondary to very talented. With inexperience all over the field, I’d expect some frosh mistakes.
    Then your source is full of shit. Lake said this is the best overall secondary he's had here back in the Spring. ANd they're not Freshman. Keith Taylor and Elijah Molden are true Juniors who have played a lot. Myles Bryant is a true Senior who has played a lot and has been a starter the past two seasons. They have experience with youth mixed in.
    They echoed what you said. It was poorly written.
    Eason has played two Spring balls of UW's offense. He just needs to get his reads down so he can let it rip. I prefer a guy who is careful with the ball than fucking Haener who is just out there wildly slinging it around all willy nilly and throwing it to the defense. Eason is better than Browning. Don't need him to be a superstar his first season. A game manager will do because of the defense and run game. But at least we know Eason has the arm talent to make all the throws and scare teams with his deep ball. There is a dimension of UW's offense that is automatically unlocked with Eason on teh field compared to Browning. UW will get back to being more explosive and aggressive throwing the ball vertically down the field.
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    lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    There's no difference. Those guys you mentioned all started playing for UW as RS Freshman and UW's defense was really good with them playing as RS Freshman. It's the same with Tuli and Taki. Talent wins. Experience is for mediocre programs that don't have a lot of talent.


    Those players had the benefit of playing next to someone experienced and talented. We can go around in circles on this but the 2019 season is new territory for UW. We just aren’t going to agree. The fact that you concede nothing is blockheaded.

    I am sure Taki and Tuli will be good and flash dominance. They will also make some frosh mistakes too. UW is in for another 3 loss season in the the regular season.
    You keep trying to find excuses man. Tuli and Taki will be paired with one of the veteran older guys when they play so they have someone on the field they can communicate with who knows the defense inside and out. The top-4 rotation will be Taki and Levi and then Tuli and Benning. They'll be fine.

    UW is going anywhere from 10-2 to 12-0. Cal is a trap game because of their defense and UW's offense breaking in a new QB and RB. After that, they'll be favored to win every game because all their toughest games are at home. Their defense will dominate. Run game will dominate. It's just a matter of getting the passing game dialed in to decide if they go to the Rose Bowl or the Playoffs.
    9-3
    If they had a big non conference game the first game of the season while breaking in a new QB and RB, I'd say 9-3 is a possibility. But that's not the case. UW's defense will be too dominant for them to lose more than two games with their schedule and the offense would have to absolutely shit themselves for those two losses to happen. Our secondary is literally the best we've ever had under Petersen and nobody outside of UW fans knows it, yet.
    Just an FYI, but the two individuals that said Eason is not all that said the same about the secondary. I do expect the secondary to very talented. With inexperience all over the field, I’d expect some frosh mistakes.
    Then your source is full of shit. Lake said this is the best overall secondary he's had here back in the Spring. ANd they're not Freshman. Keith Taylor and Elijah Molden are true Juniors who have played a lot. Myles Bryant is a true Senior who has played a lot and has been a starter the past two seasons. They have experience with youth mixed in.
    They echoed what you said. It was poorly written.
    Eason has played two Spring balls of UW's offense. He just needs to get his reads down so he can let it rip. I prefer a guy who is careful with the ball than fucking Haener who is just out there wildly slinging it around all willy nilly and throwing it to the defense.
    I am sure Petersen doesn’t either. However, I know some coaches will ask the qb to do things in practice that they wouldn’t in the game to try and push limits. However, Haener was terrible against Cal, so it’s probably just him.

    To be fair, the individual didn’t say Haener, that was my assumption. There is possibility that the kid competing for QB1 is someone else like Morris.
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    lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    Lol, 247 and Scoopduck teasing Denis as an Oregon lean for his commitment tomorrow.

    https://247sports.com/player/jonathan-denis-46046872/

    Oregon pulling a 4 star OG out of FL.

    You ride the up and downs too hard, SAC.

    Tell me he’s going to de-commit and his film is horrible.
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    BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    Morris is good and can throw the fucking ball. But I don't see how anyone could pass on the talent of Eason and Sirmon. You want great QB play as long as possible. If you have Eason as the starter, then Sirmon, then Morris, that's 6 or 7 years of great QB play compared to possibly just 4 if you go with Morris as a true Freshman.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    lawsandl said:

    Lol, 247 and Scoopduck teasing Denis as an Oregon lean for his commitment tomorrow.

    https://247sports.com/player/jonathan-denis-46046872/

    Oregon pulling a 4 star OG out of FL.

    You ride the up and downs too hard, SAC.

    Tell me he’s going to de-commit and his film is horrible.

    I hope Oregon gets all the four stars from the southeast. Some will decommit, the ones that don't will take more babysitting to get them here, and they're far more likely to portal out than west coast kids. Oh and it leaves more west coast talent to go to other west coast schools (hypothetically).

    Wins across the bored if you axe me.
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    lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    Lol, 247 and Scoopduck teasing Denis as an Oregon lean for his commitment tomorrow.

    https://247sports.com/player/jonathan-denis-46046872/

    Oregon pulling a 4 star OG out of FL.

    You ride the up and downs too hard, SAC.

    Tell me he’s going to de-commit and his film is horrible.

    I hope Oregon gets all the four stars from the southeast. Some will decommit, the ones that don't will take more babysitting to get them here, and they're far more likely to portal out than west coast kids. Oh and it leaves more west coast talent to go to other west coast schools (hypothetically).

    Wins across the bored if you axe me.
    It is a win/win. Those guys see the field early, they don’t transfer. They don’t cut the mustard, they portal out. Keep a continuous flow of talent cycling through.
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    lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    edited July 2019
    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    Lol, 247 and Scoopduck teasing Denis as an Oregon lean for his commitment tomorrow.

    https://247sports.com/player/jonathan-denis-46046872/

    Oregon pulling a 4 star OG out of FL.

    You ride the up and downs too hard, SAC.

    Tell me he’s going to de-commit and his film is horrible.

    I hope Oregon gets all the four stars from the southeast. Some will decommit, the ones that don't will take more babysitting to get them here, and they're far more likely to portal out than west coast kids. Oh and it leaves more west coast talent to go to other west coast schools (hypothetically).

    Wins across the bored if you axe me.
    It is a win/win. Those guys see the field early, they don’t transfer. They don’t cut the mustard, they portal out. Keep a continuous flow of talent cycling through.
    This is a great philosophy if you have #FlexFridays and shit player development.

    I approve.
    Saban processes them fast and take large classes every year.
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    BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    edited July 2019
    lawsandl said:

    Lol, 247 and Scoopduck teasing Denis as an Oregon lean for his commitment tomorrow.

    https://247sports.com/player/jonathan-denis-46046872/

    Oregon pulling a 4 star OG out of FL.

    You ride the up and downs too hard, SAC.

    Tell me he’s going to de-commit and his film is horrible.

    He's rated an 86 by 247. He's not elite but he's not terrible. Looks pretty undersized. If that's the best Oregon can do this class their O-line recruiting is shit. And yeah, good chance he doesn't sign with Oregon if someone better in his region comes calling later in the cycle. It's a desperation move by your staff to have to reach for a guy down there.
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    PetermanPeterman Member Posts: 675
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    lawsandl said:

    Levi isn’t Gaines, Qualls or Vea and you know it and the dudes around him that have played aren’t the next Levi O or Johnson. Your returning front seven talent are all JAGS. Levi is an above average player and Tryon will be good. Outside of those two they’re not special. What you’re saying is guys that never played a snap will level up the defense.

    Lol

    You stupid fucking cocksucker
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    BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    edited July 2019
    lawsandl said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    Lol, 247 and Scoopduck teasing Denis as an Oregon lean for his commitment tomorrow.

    https://247sports.com/player/jonathan-denis-46046872/

    Oregon pulling a 4 star OG out of FL.

    You ride the up and downs too hard, SAC.

    Tell me he’s going to de-commit and his film is horrible.

    I hope Oregon gets all the four stars from the southeast. Some will decommit, the ones that don't will take more babysitting to get them here, and they're far more likely to portal out than west coast kids. Oh and it leaves more west coast talent to go to other west coast schools (hypothetically).

    Wins across the bored if you axe me.
    It is a win/win. Those guys see the field early, they don’t transfer. They don’t cut the mustard, they portal out. Keep a continuous flow of talent cycling through.
    This is a great philosophy if you have #FlexFridays and shit player development.

    I approve.
    Saban processes them fast and take large classes every year.
    So Mario is Nick Saban now? You're getting a bunch of 3-star scrubs. Processing them in and out with more 3-star scrubs is not a positive. You have to develop guys when you're not recruiting at a high level. A lot of guys transferring out is not a good thing. It means your team would be forever young, inexperienced, and undeveloped with depth issues. Unless you're recruiting at a top-10 level every year, a lot of attrition is generally a bad thing.
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    edited July 2019
    lawsandl said:

    Lol, 247 and Scoopduck teasing Denis as an Oregon lean for his commitment tomorrow.

    https://247sports.com/player/jonathan-denis-46046872/

    Oregon pulling a 4 star OG out of FL.

    You ride the up and downs too hard, SAC.

    Tell me he’s going to de-commit and his film is horrible.

    • He's good, but he's essentially the same piece as Marcus Harper. They're both in the Dallas Warmack archetype. Yore not putting either of them at tackle.

    • He's a four star by .010 composite points. There's a good chance he's a three-star by the end of the process, in the same way Trikweze Bridges was a four-star who became a three-star.

    • I'd prefer Levi Rogers who's a stone-cold lock to be a four-star when it's all said and done and seems a little more in the Dawson Jaramillo archetype. He might be a right tackle. He might be a left guard. But apparently i'm alone there.

    • The flaw in this recruiting class is that there isn't one person we?re pursuing who you look at and say "That's a tackle." The bright side is we? have another two years of Sewell and nothing cataclysmic happened to Tauanu'u.

    • The most important pieces in tomorrow's events are the 2021 prototypical left tackles.
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    BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    Oh shit we got Hatchett!!! I didn't even notice till now! WOOOOOO! That's the best Guard prospect West of the Mississippi right there. Best UW O-line class ever. TRENCH DAWGS!
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    lawsandl said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    Lol, 247 and Scoopduck teasing Denis as an Oregon lean for his commitment tomorrow.

    https://247sports.com/player/jonathan-denis-46046872/

    Oregon pulling a 4 star OG out of FL.

    You ride the up and downs too hard, SAC.

    Tell me he’s going to de-commit and his film is horrible.

    I hope Oregon gets all the four stars from the southeast. Some will decommit, the ones that don't will take more babysitting to get them here, and they're far more likely to portal out than west coast kids. Oh and it leaves more west coast talent to go to other west coast schools (hypothetically).

    Wins across the bored if you axe me.
    It is a win/win. Those guys see the field early, they don’t transfer. They don’t cut the mustard, they portal out. Keep a continuous flow of talent cycling through.
    This is a great philosophy if you have #FlexFridays and shit player development.

    I approve.
    Saban processes them fast and take large classes every year.
    And gets classes full of 5 stars.

    Apples and apple bottom jeans.
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