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OFFICIAL DNC DEBATE GAME THREAD
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Don't agree she's dumb, but you're right to say substance doesn't matter. Hillary was terrible at running for office and Daddy is President.PurpleThrobber said:
Dumb as a rock but knows how to play to her public appeal.allpurpleallgold said:
I would argue her being a moderate is one of the reasons why she unlikable and untrustworthy.Swaye said:
I'm not sure Hillary is the hill to die on with moderate Dems my friend. I do agree that "some" moderate Dems have struggled, but I think Hillary lost because she is a horrible unlikeable person, not because she was a moderate. Her numbers on trust and likeability were horribly bad. Historically horribly bad.allpurpleallgold said:
This is laughably ignorant. Moderate democrats had been getting slaughtered since 2008. They luckboxed their way into a Obama, the rare politician that could inspire the base while governing from the center, and they still couldn’t win elections with him in the White House.PurpleThrobber said:
The Dems got hijacked by the 'progressives' the same way the GOP got hijacked by the Moral Majority evangelicals.Bendintheriver said:I watched the entire thing. There was not one positive message uttered on that stage last night. No pride in country, no love for their fellow Americans, not one uplifting thing anyone could ever hang their hat on.
Think about that. Not one person on that stage has any pride in our country at all and they want to be President. WTF is wrong with democrats?
Once they figure out the math that those leftist fucks will vote D regardless OR that the D's can pick up MORE moderate votes running centrist candidates, they'll be relevant again.
Right now they've got Vernon Adams running the numbers. This is bell curve stuff. Racing to the left hand extreme of the X-axis is horrid strategy.
We literally just settled this in 2016. Hillary Clinton is a moderate. She’s literally the moderate y’all keep swearing could beat Trump. She didn’t. Just like Biden won’t beat him. If only there were moderate democrats with tons of experience to run against Trump!
Trumo won because he’s not the moderate politician. Saying a moderate is how you beat that is fucking stupid.
I know you think the Dems need to veer FAR left, but they have that segment anyway. All the Dems need to do to win is recapture 20 percent of the white union vote they lost in the Midwest with Hillary because everyone hated her, she was uninspiring, nobody trusted her, AND she ignored the Midwest.
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True, but both got the GOP nomination by accommodating hard right wingers. Mitt was unrecognizable and rudderless. John threw a Hail Mary when he was in the fucking lead.allpurpleallgold said:
Also worth noting, Obama beat a moderate. Twice.RaceBannon said:Trump looks moderate now. He just ignored the alleged conservative never Trumpers and won anyway
And is now governing center right
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You should leave the brilliant political analysis to me. McCain 08 was no different than McCain 2000 who lost to an alleged conservative W. And alleged hard right wing Christian W beat Gore and Kerry.HHusky said:
True, but both got the GOP nomination by accommodating hard right wingers. Mitt was unrecognizable and rudderless. John threw a Hail Mary when he was in the fucking lead.allpurpleallgold said:
Also worth noting, Obama beat a moderate. Twice.RaceBannon said:Trump looks moderate now. He just ignored the alleged conservative never Trumpers and won anyway
And is now governing center right
It doesn't work to paint him as an extremist but they will anyway
The only difference in 08 is that all the alleged conservatives like yourself who claimed you would have voted for him in 2000 shit all over him in 2008 when you had a chance to vote for him
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McCain's biggest lead was after he selected Palin. Nice revisonist history O'Keefed. Tell us what position Mitt took that accommodated the "hard right wingers" O'Keefed?HHusky said:
True, but both got the GOP nomination by accommodating hard right wingers. Mitt was unrecognizable and rudderless. John threw a Hail Mary when he was in the fucking lead.allpurpleallgold said:
Also worth noting, Obama beat a moderate. Twice.RaceBannon said:Trump looks moderate now. He just ignored the alleged conservative never Trumpers and won anyway
And is now governing center right
It doesn't work to paint him as an extremist but they will anyway
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The move that cost McCain the election.
https://www.usnews.com/news/campaign-2008/articles/2008/09/24/mccain-suspends-campaign-shocks-republicans -
At least Sarah Palin wasn't a racist like the VP H voted for under Obama
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Biden is their guy. Everyone else is just there to collect a participation ribbon. Same as last time.
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I think there is some panic about Biden.PurpleJ said:Biden is their guy. Everyone else is just there to collect a participation ribbon. Same as last time.
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See?RaceBannon said:
I think there is some panic about Hillary.PurpleJ said:Biden is their guy. Everyone else is just there to collect a participation ribbon. Same as last time.
He's tried before and never got close. There's a reason -
NOT dialed inPurpleJ said:Biden is their guy. Everyone else is just there to collect a participation ribbon. Same as last time.
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BennyBeaver said:
NOT dialed inPurpleJ said:Biden is their guy. Everyone else is just there to collect a participation ribbon. Same as last time.
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McCain had a lead after his convention, and his Veep was a virtual unknown. Then she became known and that was that.SFGbob said:
McCain's biggest lead was after he selected Palin. Nice revisonist history O'Keefed. Tell us what position Mitt took that accommodated the "hard right wingers" O'Keefed?HHusky said:
True, but both got the GOP nomination by accommodating hard right wingers. Mitt was unrecognizable and rudderless. John threw a Hail Mary when he was in the fucking lead.allpurpleallgold said:
Also worth noting, Obama beat a moderate. Twice.RaceBannon said:Trump looks moderate now. He just ignored the alleged conservative never Trumpers and won anyway
And is now governing center right
It doesn't work to paint him as an extremist but they will anyway
Cue the Kunt act.
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Yes, because only “hard right wingers” oppose government healthcare.HHusky said:
McCain had a lead after his convention, and his Veep was a virtual unknown. Then she became known and that was that.SFGbob said:
McCain's biggest lead was after he selected Palin. Nice revisonist history O'Keefed. Tell us what position Mitt took that accommodated the "hard right wingers" O'Keefed?HHusky said:
True, but both got the GOP nomination by accommodating hard right wingers. Mitt was unrecognizable and rudderless. John threw a Hail Mary when he was in the fucking lead.allpurpleallgold said:
Also worth noting, Obama beat a moderate. Twice.RaceBannon said:Trump looks moderate now. He just ignored the alleged conservative never Trumpers and won anyway
And is now governing center right
It doesn't work to paint him as an extremist but they will anyway
Cue the Kunt act.
Are we talking about the same Mitt Romney who ran against Romneycare?
Knew you had nothing
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We’ve had government healthcare for decades, blob. There is no sentiment outside of the right wing for ending it.SFGbob said:
Yes, because only “hard right wingers” oppose government healthcare.HHusky said:
McCain had a lead after his convention, and his Veep was a virtual unknown. Then she became known and that was that.SFGbob said:
McCain's biggest lead was after he selected Palin. Nice revisonist history O'Keefed. Tell us what position Mitt took that accommodated the "hard right wingers" O'Keefed?HHusky said:
True, but both got the GOP nomination by accommodating hard right wingers. Mitt was unrecognizable and rudderless. John threw a Hail Mary when he was in the fucking lead.allpurpleallgold said:
Also worth noting, Obama beat a moderate. Twice.RaceBannon said:Trump looks moderate now. He just ignored the alleged conservative never Trumpers and won anyway
And is now governing center right
It doesn't work to paint him as an extremist but they will anyway
Cue the Kunt act.
Are we talking about the same Mitt Romney who ran against Romneycare?
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McCain had a lead up until he mishandled the financial crisis, you love to believe your own lies don’t you O’Keefed.
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You think the fact his Veep didn’t/couldn’t read was irrelevant. We’ll simply have to agree to disagree.SFGbob said:McCain had a lead up until he mishandled the financial crisis, you love to believe your own lies don’t you O’Keefed.
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That’s a good Kunt, fuck that strawman ass. Unlike you O’Keefed there is no dick in my mouth. What I think is very clear.HHusky said:
You think the fact his Veep didn’t/couldn’t read was irrelevant. We’ll simply have to agree to disagree.SFGbob said:McCain had a lead up until he mishandled the financial crisis, you love to believe your own lies don’t you O’Keefed.
I think you were talking out your ass when you claimed McCain lost his lead because he picked Palin, and it’s weird how Trump won when according to you he pandered to the “hard right wingers” and opposed Obamacare.
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Romney was solid. Too bad. He'd have made a good President.
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Trump catered to the resentments of white people who feel left behind. Most would also have voted for Sanders.SFGbob said:
That’s a good Kunt, fuck that strawman ass. Unlike you O’Keefed there is no dick in my mouth. What I think is very clear.HHusky said:
You think the fact his Veep didn’t/couldn’t read was irrelevant. We’ll simply have to agree to disagree.SFGbob said:McCain had a lead up until he mishandled the financial crisis, you love to believe your own lies don’t you O’Keefed.
I think you were talking out your ass when you claimed McCain lost his lead because he picked Palin, and it’s weird how Trump won when according to you he pandered to the “hard right wingers” and opposed Obamacare. -
Far from recasting himself (using his etch-a-sketch) after the convention, he actually just seemed to have no convictions at all. But you point to an interesting topic. We select Presidents on the basis of how good they are at running for President. Some good people are bad at running for office.creepycoug said:Romney was solid. Too bad. He'd have made a good President.
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Right. Because there's no blacks in those dying midwest cities and towns.HHusky said:
Trump catered to the resentments of white people who feel left behind. Most would also have voted for Sanders.SFGbob said:
That’s a good Kunt, fuck that strawman ass. Unlike you O’Keefed there is no dick in my mouth. What I think is very clear.HHusky said:
You think the fact his Veep didn’t/couldn’t read was irrelevant. We’ll simply have to agree to disagree.SFGbob said:McCain had a lead up until he mishandled the financial crisis, you love to believe your own lies don’t you O’Keefed.
I think you were talking out your ass when you claimed McCain lost his lead because he picked Palin, and it’s weird how Trump won when according to you he pandered to the “hard right wingers” and opposed Obamacare. -
Surely they’re not dying now that Daddy’s on the job.TurdBomber said:
Right. Because there's no blacks in those dying midwest cities and towns.HHusky said:
Trump catered to the resentments of white people who feel left behind. Most would also have voted for Sanders.SFGbob said:
That’s a good Kunt, fuck that strawman ass. Unlike you O’Keefed there is no dick in my mouth. What I think is very clear.HHusky said:
You think the fact his Veep didn’t/couldn’t read was irrelevant. We’ll simply have to agree to disagree.SFGbob said:McCain had a lead up until he mishandled the financial crisis, you love to believe your own lies don’t you O’Keefed.
I think you were talking out your ass when you claimed McCain lost his lead because he picked Palin, and it’s weird how Trump won when according to you he pandered to the “hard right wingers” and opposed Obamacare. -
Has he condescendingly described them as "clingers" yet?HHusky said:
Surely they’re not dying now that Daddy’s on the job.TurdBomber said:
Right. Because there's no blacks in those dying midwest cities and towns.HHusky said:
Trump catered to the resentments of white people who feel left behind. Most would also have voted for Sanders.SFGbob said:
That’s a good Kunt, fuck that strawman ass. Unlike you O’Keefed there is no dick in my mouth. What I think is very clear.HHusky said:
You think the fact his Veep didn’t/couldn’t read was irrelevant. We’ll simply have to agree to disagree.SFGbob said:McCain had a lead up until he mishandled the financial crisis, you love to believe your own lies don’t you O’Keefed.
I think you were talking out your ass when you claimed McCain lost his lead because he picked Palin, and it’s weird how Trump won when according to you he pandered to the “hard right wingers” and opposed Obamacare. -
I believe those were rural voters.TurdBomber said:
Has he condescendingly described them as "clingers" yet?HHusky said:
Surely they’re not dying now that Daddy’s on the job.TurdBomber said:
Right. Because there's no blacks in those dying midwest cities and towns.HHusky said:
Trump catered to the resentments of white people who feel left behind. Most would also have voted for Sanders.SFGbob said:
That’s a good Kunt, fuck that strawman ass. Unlike you O’Keefed there is no dick in my mouth. What I think is very clear.HHusky said:
You think the fact his Veep didn’t/couldn’t read was irrelevant. We’ll simply have to agree to disagree.SFGbob said:McCain had a lead up until he mishandled the financial crisis, you love to believe your own lies don’t you O’Keefed.
I think you were talking out your ass when you claimed McCain lost his lead because he picked Palin, and it’s weird how Trump won when according to you he pandered to the “hard right wingers” and opposed Obamacare. -
Good breakdown. Hickenlooper reminds me of John Huntsman when He ran a few years back. All He did was talk about good policy but got didn’t have the charisma needed and got lost in the wash. His daughter is a smoke show though.creepycoug said:
They need someone like Hickenlooper to wake up. Smart, normal and non-threatening in his appearance. Has the governorship experience, etc. But nobody knows who the fuck he is. Midwestern centrists would vote for him. And liberals are going to vote for any democrat who gets the ticket.SFGbob said:
You get some deference for your Trump call in 2016 but no way Harris wins after her positions on giving illegals healthcare. Her fucking Willie Brown while humorous is a nothing burger politically but illegals and healthcare and her flip flopping on getting rid of private health insurance is all Trump needs to beat her ass soundly.RaceBannon said:I'll keep saying it. If you want to beat Trump, Harris is the one. Take it for what it's worth from me because I'm not voting for her but a younger me would.
I liked him because he had the balls to say the one fucking thing his party has to say - out loud - and he said it twice - "the answer is not a government jerb for everybody ... the answer is not to be found in socialism."
I'm shocked this hasn't gotten more play in the Tug. He's the one motherfucker in the group who has the political acumen and the guts to basically say out loud that they're not going to win if they don't get off their soap box about fringe social issues and reject any notion of AOC Socialism.
If I were committed to voting Democrat, and I'm not, but if I were, that's the guy I'd pick. Harris is a lightweight, and Booker is a moron, Pete is ... I don't know, fuck off South Bend. Biden is too old and still in love with his Vice Presidency and doesn't have enough gas in the tank to beat Trump. Bennett's retardation is exceeded only by Inslee's. The rest can go DIAFF.
Kamala is all ID politics and obviously that plays well to her audience. But if someone can corner her on being a prosecutor and beat her at her own game in the right moment, she may lose it in a fit of tears. She winged it a lot last night. It worked with 10 people on the stage. Not sure it will when the field pares down. But Race is always right so what ya gonna do.
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Right. Who live in "towns" versus "big cities."HHusky said:
I believe those were rural voters.TurdBomber said:
Has he condescendingly described them as "clingers" yet?HHusky said:
Surely they’re not dying now that Daddy’s on the job.TurdBomber said:
Right. Because there's no blacks in those dying midwest cities and towns.HHusky said:
Trump catered to the resentments of white people who feel left behind. Most would also have voted for Sanders.SFGbob said:
That’s a good Kunt, fuck that strawman ass. Unlike you O’Keefed there is no dick in my mouth. What I think is very clear.HHusky said:
You think the fact his Veep didn’t/couldn’t read was irrelevant. We’ll simply have to agree to disagree.SFGbob said:McCain had a lead up until he mishandled the financial crisis, you love to believe your own lies don’t you O’Keefed.
I think you were talking out your ass when you claimed McCain lost his lead because he picked Palin, and it’s weird how Trump won when according to you he pandered to the “hard right wingers” and opposed Obamacare.
Boy! You're a smart one! -
Having presidential candidates speaking Spanish really pisses me off and I don't care what side they're on. Pandering to illegals for votes is a new low. Fuck all of 'em! This is America you puke bags so speak ENGLISH! Deport those illegally here, ASAP. We are a nation of laws.
Offering illegals free health care for their votes is even worse. Is it any wonder they are trying to pour into our country? Fuck this democrat party. JFK would now be considered a Neo Nazi. -
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Right. Who live in "towns" versus "big cities."HHusky said:
I believe those were rural voters.TurdBomber said:
Has he condescendingly described them as "clingers" yet?HHusky said:
Surely they’re not dying now that Daddy’s on the job.TurdBomber said:
Right. Because there's no blacks in those dying midwest cities and towns.HHusky said:
Trump catered to the resentments of white people who feel left behind. Most would also have voted for Sanders.SFGbob said:
That’s a good Kunt, fuck that strawman ass. Unlike you O’Keefed there is no dick in my mouth. What I think is very clear.HHusky said:
You think the fact his Veep didn’t/couldn’t read was irrelevant. We’ll simply have to agree to disagree.SFGbob said:McCain had a lead up until he mishandled the financial crisis, you love to believe your own lies don’t you O’Keefed.
I think you were talking out your ass when you claimed McCain lost his lead because he picked Palin, and it’s weird how Trump won when according to you he pandered to the “hard right wingers” and opposed Obamacare.
Boy! You're a smart one!
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You're still a genius, shit thrower. -
Do the Rats cater to the resentments of blacks, Hispanics, gays, women, trannies?HHusky said:
Trump catered to the resentments of white people who feel left behind. Most would also have voted for Sanders.SFGbob said:
That’s a good Kunt, fuck that strawman ass. Unlike you O’Keefed there is no dick in my mouth. What I think is very clear.HHusky said:
You think the fact his Veep didn’t/couldn’t read was irrelevant. We’ll simply have to agree to disagree.SFGbob said:McCain had a lead up until he mishandled the financial crisis, you love to believe your own lies don’t you O’Keefed.
I think you were talking out your ass when you claimed McCain lost his lead because he picked Palin, and it’s weird how Trump won when according to you he pandered to the “hard right wingers” and opposed Obamacare.
