As of now these are the class rankings of schools we are talking about:
#11 Oregon
#54 Washington
#60 USC
Facts about 3 star recruits in this years class
Clemson has FIVE 3 star commits
Alabama has THREE 3 star commits
LSU has FIVE 3 star commits
Raw numbers are meaningless at this point, the only thing that matters (for a school that has any decent ability to recruit anyway) are percentages.
Clemson: 4 3 stars out of 18 commits = 87.8% blue chips, overall average score of 94.56 (1st) Bama: 3 3 stars out of 15 commits = 80% blue chips, overall average score of 93.35 (4th) LSU: 5 3 stars out of 20 commits = 75% blue chips, overall average score of 92.47 (5th) Oregon: 7 3 stars out of 13 commits = 46.15% blue chips, overall average score of 89.58 (19th) Washington: 3 3 stars out of 6 commits = 50% blue chips, overall average score of 89.06 (21st)
Washington and Oregon's classes are roughly equal right now. You can argue Oregon's is better because fuller is better than emptier, but OTOH Oregon's top commit in these calculations isn't really committed to them and Washington's class is definitely trending better of late.
I'm honestly kind of surprised by how much Oregon's recruiting momentum has slowed down, I didn't expect that. Ever since the shit they pulled with Smalls it's like they can only take 3 stars. It's almost like karma's a bitch...
This is fair, but come on, it's a lot easier to shoot 50% from 3 on 2 attempts per game.
Oregon is taking a pretty small class in comparison to year's past, so quality is more important this year. It's concerning, and really no way to sugarcoat it.
To combat SAC's point about the trenches. The trenches are the most important for sure, but Washington isn't pulling in the skill guys they need. Stanford, Michigan St., Michigan, and Wisconsin load up on the trenches every year. How many national titles have they won? Better yet, how many playoffs have they made? It's 75% trenches, but if UW can't even get a guy like Smalls from their own backyard, that's a problem. You can say the kid is drama and immature, but that's pretty much every high level skill player. Pete and company's recruiting strategy is great for getting high quality trenches, but you need to "wine and dine and 69" the high level skill guys. Peterman refuses, and that will continue to hold this team back.
What skill positions is UW not recruiting well? Cameron Davis is better than Sean Dollars. Puka Nacua is better than any WR Oregon got last class. Cameron Williams and Trent McDuffie say hi. Oregon got UW leftovers at QB. UW has a great chance at landing Jalen McMillan and Rome Odunze, the top two WR's out West in this class. Sam Adams is a UW lean. Our TE recruiting is hot right now. Mark Redman is a beast with one or two more elite TE's to come.
Smalls is one guy. Not getting him does nothing to the trajectory of UW's program.
As of now these are the class rankings of schools we are talking about:
#11 Oregon
#54 Washington
#60 USC
Facts about 3 star recruits in this years class
Clemson has FIVE 3 star commits
Alabama has THREE 3 star commits
LSU has FIVE 3 star commits
Raw numbers are meaningless at this point, the only thing that matters (for a school that has any decent ability to recruit anyway) are percentages.
Clemson: 4 3 stars out of 18 commits = 87.8% blue chips, overall average score of 94.56 (1st) Bama: 3 3 stars out of 15 commits = 80% blue chips, overall average score of 93.35 (4th) LSU: 5 3 stars out of 20 commits = 75% blue chips, overall average score of 92.47 (5th) Oregon: 7 3 stars out of 13 commits = 46.15% blue chips, overall average score of 89.58 (19th) Washington: 3 3 stars out of 6 commits = 50% blue chips, overall average score of 89.06 (21st)
Washington and Oregon's classes are roughly equal right now. You can argue Oregon's is better because fuller is better than emptier, but OTOH Oregon's top commit in these calculations isn't really committed to them and Washington's class is definitely trending better of late.
I'm honestly kind of surprised by how much Oregon's recruiting momentum has slowed down, I didn't expect that. Ever since the shit they pulled with Smalls it's like they can only take 3 stars. It's almost like karma's a bitch...
This is fair, but come on, it's a lot easier to shoot 50% from 3 on 2 attempts per game.
Oregon is taking a pretty small class in comparison to year's past, so quality is more important this year. It's concerning, and really no way to sugarcoat it.
To combat SAC's point about the trenches. The trenches are the most important for sure, but Washington isn't pulling in the skill guys they need. Stanford, Michigan St., Michigan, and Wisconsin load up on the trenches every year. How many national titles have they won? Better yet, how many playoffs have they made? It's 75% trenches, but if UW can't even get a guy like Smalls from their own backyard, that's a problem. You can say the kid is drama and immature, but that's pretty much every high level skill player. Pete and company's recruiting strategy is great for getting high quality trenches, but you need to "wine and dine and 69" the high level skill guys. Peterman refuses, and that will continue to hold this team back.
What skill positions is UW not recruiting well? Cameron Davis is better than Sean Dollars. Puka Nacua is better than any WR Oregon got last class. Cameron Williams and Trent McDuffie say hi. Oregon got UW leftovers at QB. UW has a great chance at landing Jalen McMillan and Rome Odunze, the top two WR's out West in this class. Sam Adams is a UW lean. Our TE recruiting is hot right now. Mark Redman is a beast with one or two more elite TE's to come.
Smalls is one guy. Not getting him does nothing to the trajectory of UW's program.
I am surprised you think every UW recruit is better.
As of now these are the class rankings of schools we are talking about:
#11 Oregon
#54 Washington
#60 USC
Facts about 3 star recruits in this years class
Clemson has FIVE 3 star commits
Alabama has THREE 3 star commits
LSU has FIVE 3 star commits
Raw numbers are meaningless at this point, the only thing that matters (for a school that has any decent ability to recruit anyway) are percentages.
Clemson: 4 3 stars out of 18 commits = 87.8% blue chips, overall average score of 94.56 (1st) Bama: 3 3 stars out of 15 commits = 80% blue chips, overall average score of 93.35 (4th) LSU: 5 3 stars out of 20 commits = 75% blue chips, overall average score of 92.47 (5th) Oregon: 7 3 stars out of 13 commits = 46.15% blue chips, overall average score of 89.58 (19th) Washington: 3 3 stars out of 6 commits = 50% blue chips, overall average score of 89.06 (21st)
Washington and Oregon's classes are roughly equal right now. You can argue Oregon's is better because fuller is better than emptier, but OTOH Oregon's top commit in these calculations isn't really committed to them and Washington's class is definitely trending better of late.
I'm honestly kind of surprised by how much Oregon's recruiting momentum has slowed down, I didn't expect that. Ever since the shit they pulled with Smalls it's like they can only take 3 stars. It's almost like karma's a bitch...
This is fair, but come on, it's a lot easier to shoot 50% from 3 on 2 attempts per game.
I think moor pointedly if we? wanted a four-star running back we? would’ve taken Tirek Murphy who committed to Purdue after we took Benson or kept pushing fore Bijan Robinson who we? barely even offered. Crystalball’s running back bored clearly went Kendall Milton, maybe Sam Adams, Benson. Maybe Benson gets pushed to a four-star when every cite shakes up there ratings post-Opening. Maybe he doesn’t. Either way, he’s 200 pounds with a legitimate 4.49 40 time. Greenfield is already a four-star on 247. Pretending we?re working with final rankings hear is FS.
They brought in Trice because they were still considering a rush end. It wasn’t like Trice wasn’t a take but they weren’t going to chase him with a bird in the hand. Trice was not a must take player.
I highly doubt he get anywhere near 260. Kid is not broad in the shoulder or have sand in his pants. Ma’ae definitely has the bigger frame.
Yeah, they were considering ANOTHER rush end IF his name was BRALEN fucking TRICE because he's a talent you don't say no to. He's better than Treven Ma'ae. Ma'ae was a preemptive plan B guy like many of the 3-stars Oregon is taking this Summer. Like everybody else, Oregon would have preferred Trice over Ma'ae if they had to choose one, but strategically they needed to make sure they at least got one of the two and Ma'ae was much easier for them to get.
I don't know what kind of quook delusion you have in your mind about Trice but he's not small or skinny. He's a big dude with a big ass head and bone structure and will gain a lot of size in college.
Given the milieu in the PAC 12 it will be one of us for awhile IMO.
Utah, Colorado, WSU, OSU, ASU, UA are just lacking
Cal has a new young coach and is doing better but they have a ways to go.
UCLA-Chip is a good coach but hates to recruit and it shows
USC is always a threat and will get good players but won’t be what they could be with Helton still at the helm. Oregon has made huge inroads into USC traditional territories of Mater Dei, St John Bosco, Narbonne, Norco and others.
Both UO & UO have recruiters that the other schools can’t match.
Recruiting in the 50's has been good enough to rag doll Oregon 4 years in a row.
This is quite honestly the only time I like the Cuogs. I used to root for both team planes to crash but I love this winning streak and now root for WSU once a year
For the life of Me I will never understand the h8te UW has for the Cougs. Especially the younger blokes. WSU has won one meaningful AC in the rivalry. One.
Given the milieu in the PAC 12 it will be one of us for awhile IMO.
Utah, Colorado, WSU, OSU, ASU, UA are just lacking
Cal has a new young coach and is doing better but they have a ways to go.
UCLA-Chip is a good coach but hates to recruit and it shows
USC is always a threat and will get good players but won’t be what they could be with Helton still at the helm. Oregon has made huge inroads into USC traditional territories of Mater Dei, St John Bosco, Narbonne, Norco and others.
Both UO & UO have recruiters that the other schools can’t match.
Recruiting in the 50's has been good enough to rag doll Oregon 4 years in a row.
This is quite honestly the only time I like the Cuogs. I used to root for both team planes to crash but I love this winning streak and now root for WSU once a year
For the life of Me I will never understand the h8te UW has for the Cougs. Especially the younger blokes. WSU has won one meaningful AC in the rivalry. One.
I don't hate the Cougs at all. I love them for being so much fun to watch against UW. I root for WSU in every game they play besides the Apple Cup.
Bralen Trice has elite bend. He’s super flexible. Once he puts it together he could be scary.
There is not a lot of difference between the two. There was concern about his frame more than Ma’ae.
Ma’ae has a lot to work with. I just looked at photo from of Trice from his UW visit and looks very slight through the hip and shoulders. These are young kids so who knows. Looking at the two and Ma’ae seems like he has a better frame and his testing numbers were pretty elite.
Given the milieu in the PAC 12 it will be one of us for awhile IMO.
Utah, Colorado, WSU, OSU, ASU, UA are just lacking
Cal has a new young coach and is doing better but they have a ways to go.
UCLA-Chip is a good coach but hates to recruit and it shows
USC is always a threat and will get good players but won’t be what they could be with Helton still at the helm. Oregon has made huge inroads into USC traditional territories of Mater Dei, St John Bosco, Narbonne, Norco and others.
Both UO & UO have recruiters that the other schools can’t match.
Recruiting in the 50's has been good enough to rag doll Oregon 4 years in a row.
This is quite honestly the only time I like the Cuogs. I used to root for both team planes to crash but I love this winning streak and now root for WSU once a year
For the life of Me I will never understand the h8te UW has for the Cougs. Especially the younger blokes. WSU has won one meaningful AC in the rivalry. One.
We all know I'm not a younger bloke
But memories of Chuck Nelson and the Cuog fan sitting behind me in 1975 look large
As Spider Gaines ran down the field it got awfully quiet behind me
-Trice was not a take. This was reported well before he committed and visited Oregon.
-If Trice ends up 250, he will be an injury concern. He looks like Jelks but 3 inches shorter.
-Ngalu is super short. I would much rather have Williams and Dorlus and their size/athleticism combination. Williams needs to get into a proper strength and conditioning program. Dorlus needs to fill out his frame. Ngalu will always be short.
-Oregon can’t be super selective on the DL. The numbers don’t allow it.
-Navarrette is dialed in and taking no other OVs.
-Lynch is not a take.
-Baker, Scott, and Faoliu are plenty big. The 2019 class has size. Williams and Dorlus are projected to play around 310 and Poti and Ware Hudson at 290. Cristobal thinks Dorlus settles around 315.
-UW pulled two 89 composite OL and a 87 composite. Let’s call it what it is. A decent haul not spectacular.
Oh, yeah, all muh 3 stars are underrated!
Trice was absolutely a take you idiot. Oregon's suck ass is not turning down a recruit that is being heavily pursued by UW and Notre Dame, especially a defensive recruit UW wants. They tried to get him to commit and cancel his UW official visit for a week later. He said no. Any bullshit spin from you quook mods was preemptive WDWHA bullshit. Oregon knew in advance of his OV to Oregon that he was committing two weeks later. If you don't want a fucking kid and know he's about to commit two weeks later, you don't waste your fucking time officially visiting him. You think Trice would have taken that OV to Oregon if he didn't have a committable offer from them? He had offers from UW, USC, Bama, and Notre Dame and you think Oregon officially visited him and was like "no thanks". Lol get the fuck out of here. They wanted him just as much as UW and would have taken him. I also don't know what your retarded ass is talking about but Trice is not small at all. He's 6'3.5 and thicc. 250 was being conservative. He'll be 260-270 in a couple years. He's built like Joe Tryon.
Ngalu is 6'0.5 and will be 290 as a RS Freshman. Same height as Greg Gaines and a bunch of DTs on Oregon's roster. Jordan Scott is a midget. Neither of your D-line commits last class are more athletic or more explosive. Like I said, Ngalu played some RB at 280 pounds and showed a quick burst while doing it. He also balled out at the Poly bowl and was unblockable in one on ones. Dorlus is not 290 and would have to get fat to get up to 315. Kristian Williams is ass. Like I said, our lowest rated D-line signee is better than your highest rated one.
You're right, Oregon can't be super selective this class because UW kicked their asses taking all the best D-lineman last class and starved them out. Now they have to take just a bunch of warm bodies just to prevent massive depth issues in the future.
Navarrette commits to whatever school he last visited. His commitment is as solid as a fart in the wind. He'll be eyeing an official visit to UW in the Fall. He'll have to be a complete idiot not to, considering UW's success on defense. Are you calling him an idiot?
All of UW's O-lineman from last class are composite 4-stars. All of them have huge upside. Fautanu is a 5-star talent. His athleticism and speed are off the charts for an offensive lineman. He's already up to 295 and has a chance to start for UW at RT as a RS Freshman. Buelow and Kalepo are genetic freaks. They have the potential to be dominant players three years from now. Buelow has All-American LT potential. He's so big, so long, and moves his feet with ease. And he's not fat either.
It's true. UW's 3-stars are mostly underrated. Oregon's 3-stars are mostly JAGS. Film don't lie.
Lol if UW is selling themselves on Trice that’s when you know it’s bad. He is the has the body type of a DE you would find at a D2 school. This is from the visitor summary page from the Stanford game:
“Trice is really interesting. I'm told at the moment Oregon probably doesn't have a spot for him. But he is deciding in early October so if anything changes the Ducks want to keep themselves in the game. So having him visit now is a good plan for Oregon to have a few extra weeks to work some things out. It's also a chance to see Trice in person and get to know him a little better.”
Well after that visit it was a definite no. 6’3.5” and thick? Well damn Jonah Tauanuu must be 6’7” 400. (He’s 6’4.5” 304).
I know for a fact that Mingo played DE at 225 for LSU in 2011. So, he could play rush end at a light weight or even play on 3rd downs. However, I definitely think Ma’ae is safer and still has a high ceiling.
And no we trust we our coaches to project and develop. Trice has elite hip flexibility. He can bend the edge and he has a quick first step. He’s long too. He has a lot to work with.
I know for a fact that Mingo played DE at 225 for LSU in 2011. So, he could play rush end at a light weight or even play on 3rd downs. However, I definitely think Ma’ae is safer and still has a high ceiling.
The problem with Ma’ae is although he tested well he’s super stiff. He can’t bend well.
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He looks extremely athletic. You are making way too much out his rating.
Fautanu really impressed me but the other two need development and aren’t can’t miss.
Smalls is one guy. Not getting him does nothing to the trajectory of UW's program.
I don't know what kind of quook delusion you have in your mind about Trice but he's not small or skinny. He's a big dude with a big ass head and bone structure and will gain a lot of size in college.
Ma’ae has a lot to work with. I just looked at photo from of Trice from his UW visit and looks very slight through the hip and shoulders. These are young kids so who knows. Looking at the two and Ma’ae seems like he has a better frame and his testing numbers were pretty elite.
But memories of Chuck Nelson and the Cuog fan sitting behind me in 1975 look large
As Spider Gaines ran down the field it got awfully quiet behind me
“Trice is really interesting. I'm told at the moment Oregon probably doesn't have a spot for him. But he is deciding in early October so if anything changes the Ducks want to keep themselves in the game. So having him visit now is a good plan for Oregon to have a few extra weeks to work some things out. It's also a chance to see Trice in person and get to know him a little better.”
Well after that visit it was a definite no. 6’3.5” and thick? Well damn Jonah Tauanuu must be 6’7” 400. (He’s 6’4.5” 304).
Imagine that
And no we trust we our coaches to project and develop. Trice has elite hip flexibility. He can bend the edge and he has a quick first step. He’s long too. He has a lot to work with.
Notre Dame wanted him too.