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Penis Sewell was also a top 50 recruit nationally.
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Equating a 5-star recruit who was obviously elite and super athletic since he was a Sophomore in high school to much less athletic, fat 3-star project lineman is what you like to do.FirePeterman said:
The best OL Oregon has had in the last decade was a Cristobal recruit who came in at over 360 lbs and he will be a top 10 overall pick when he is draft eligible.StrongArmCobra said:
Oregon won't get a single 4-star recruit on the O-line or D-line this class. Thots?DJDuck said:I think you are whistling past the graveyard once again SAC. We have been over most of this ground before. You seem to pin your hopes on variables that are not really determinative, and are unreliable and mutable. For instance Oregon’s OL Is one of the best in the country. None of them were considered stars except for Penei. You must be extremely insecure that you can’t seem to have a conversation without attempting to run down the other team. You must be fairly young too. You have a lot to learn. I will concede that UW COULD have a better recruiting class but IMO I don’t think so. I am happy with all of our recruits.
Given that Tae will probably leave and USC is working on Kris Hutson.
Tae is a talent and will hurt but we have good safeties now and several in the class.
Hutson is a 4 star receiver that would hurt losing. However we had a fantastic WR class last year. Realistically there are too many Great WR’s that are Oregon leans right now. We have to turn some of them down. So while losing Hutson would be problematic there plenty of great receivers that want to go to Oregon.
And those 3-star starters you speak of were all Greatwood recruits. Greatwood was legitimately good at finding hidden gems and recruited athletic 260-270 pound high school recruits and built them up into decent players. Cristobal? Not so much. He loves the less athletic fatties. BEACHED WHALE!
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Oregon also has the best EDGE Dline guy on the entire west coast already committed in 4 star Jaden Navarette after signing easily the best overall Dline and Oline guys on the west coast in Thibodeaux and Jonah Tauanu’u.StrongArmCobra said:
Oregon won't get a single 4-star recruit on the O-line or D-line this class. Thots?DJDuck said:I think you are whistling past the graveyard once again SAC. We have been over most of this ground before. You seem to pin your hopes on variables that are not really determinative, and are unreliable and mutable. For instance Oregon’s OL Is one of the best in the country. None of them were considered stars except for Penei. You must be extremely insecure that you can’t seem to have a conversation without attempting to run down the other team. You must be fairly young too. You have a lot to learn. I will concede that UW COULD have a better recruiting class but IMO I don’t think so. I am happy with all of our recruits.
Given that Tae will probably leave and USC is working on Kris Hutson.
Tae is a talent and will hurt but we have good safeties now and several in the class.
Hutson is a 4 star receiver that would hurt losing. However we had a fantastic WR class last year. Realistically there are too many Great WR’s that are Oregon leans right now. We have to turn some of them down. So while losing Hutson would be problematic there plenty of great receivers that want to go to Oregon.
And those 3-star starters you speak of were all Greatwood recruits. Greatwood was legitimately good at finding hidden gems and recruited athletic 260-270 pound high school recruits and built them up into decent players. Cristobal? Not so much. He loves the less athletic fatties. BEACHED WHALE!
Your O-line will suck after those Greatwood recruits graduate.
Btw Afasese has a .87 rating and is the composite 4th ranked recruit in Hawaii which will put him in the top half of UWs current recruiting class which does not have a single DL commit. Oregon has the nations #11 recruiting class on composite, #10 on 247 and easily #1 in the PAC12 by a massive margin. UW’s class is #54, trailing traditional powerhouses such as Western Michigan, Bowling Green, and Cincinnati. -
Faatui Tuitele, Saama Paama, Laitau Latu, Jacob Bandes, Bralen Trice, and Noa Ngalu say hi!
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Are you really citing recruiting class rankings in fucking june? When the majority of kids aren’t committed.FirePeterman said:
Oregon also has the best EDGE Dline guy on the entire west coast already committed in 4 star Jaden Navarette after signing easily the best overall Dline and Oline guys on the west coast in Thibodeaux and Jonah Tauanu’u.StrongArmCobra said:
Oregon won't get a single 4-star recruit on the O-line or D-line this class. Thots?DJDuck said:I think you are whistling past the graveyard once again SAC. We have been over most of this ground before. You seem to pin your hopes on variables that are not really determinative, and are unreliable and mutable. For instance Oregon’s OL Is one of the best in the country. None of them were considered stars except for Penei. You must be extremely insecure that you can’t seem to have a conversation without attempting to run down the other team. You must be fairly young too. You have a lot to learn. I will concede that UW COULD have a better recruiting class but IMO I don’t think so. I am happy with all of our recruits.
Given that Tae will probably leave and USC is working on Kris Hutson.
Tae is a talent and will hurt but we have good safeties now and several in the class.
Hutson is a 4 star receiver that would hurt losing. However we had a fantastic WR class last year. Realistically there are too many Great WR’s that are Oregon leans right now. We have to turn some of them down. So while losing Hutson would be problematic there plenty of great receivers that want to go to Oregon.
And those 3-star starters you speak of were all Greatwood recruits. Greatwood was legitimately good at finding hidden gems and recruited athletic 260-270 pound high school recruits and built them up into decent players. Cristobal? Not so much. He loves the less athletic fatties. BEACHED WHALE!
Your O-line will suck after those Greatwood recruits graduate.
Btw Afasese has a .87 rating and is the composite 4th ranked recruit in Hawaii which will put him in the top half of UWs current recruiting class which does not have a single DL commit. Oregon has the nations #11 recruiting class on composite, #10 on 247 and easily #1 in the PAC12 by a massive margin. UW’s class is #54, trailing traditional powerhouses such as Western Michigan, Bowling Green, and Cincinnati. -
lololol doog fans would really be the ones to criticize taking a 3 star project Dline guy and come back with Bralen Trice and Noa Ngalu. From following Oregon recruiting I know all about Trice, he begged to come to Oregon and was turned down as he literally has the body composition of a WR. If you want to see a day and night difference in body type look at a real DE player like Kavon Thibodeax, Treven Ma’ae, DJ Johnson, Adrian Jackson, etc and compare that to Trice. He was politely told no thanks by Cristobal when he came to visit and you gonna bring up Trice? Ngalu is another scrub, mountain west level player. Latu was a must get for you guys and has some tools but he is stiff as a board if the plan is to use him as a true edge you will find yourself disappointed. Paama is a good looking prospect, as is Bandes although he is a high floor low ceiling guy, much less potential than Paama. Tuitele is another good looking player. Only problem is all of UW best dline guys are interior Dline, which in today’s football is far less valuable then exterior edge rushers which Oregon has the best group of of any college program west of the Mississippi. Again the previous statement holds, Oregon has signed the best Dlineman and Olineman in the West last cycle, and already have the best exterior Dline guy on the west this cycle committed with the second best would be committed if he wasn’t failing every damn class (DeShawn Lynch).backthepack said:Faatui Tuitele, Saama Paama, Laitau Latu, Jacob Bandes, Bralen Trice, and Noa Ngalu say hi!
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.857 rating = / = .87 rating. And if by top half you mean you he literally squeaks ahead of one UW commit, then Sure.gif.FirePeterman said:
Oregon also has the best EDGE Dline guy on the entire west coast already committed in 4 star Jaden Navarette after signing easily the best overall Dline and Oline guys on the west coast in Thibodeaux and Jonah Tauanu’u.StrongArmCobra said:
Oregon won't get a single 4-star recruit on the O-line or D-line this class. Thots?DJDuck said:I think you are whistling past the graveyard once again SAC. We have been over most of this ground before. You seem to pin your hopes on variables that are not really determinative, and are unreliable and mutable. For instance Oregon’s OL Is one of the best in the country. None of them were considered stars except for Penei. You must be extremely insecure that you can’t seem to have a conversation without attempting to run down the other team. You must be fairly young too. You have a lot to learn. I will concede that UW COULD have a better recruiting class but IMO I don’t think so. I am happy with all of our recruits.
Given that Tae will probably leave and USC is working on Kris Hutson.
Tae is a talent and will hurt but we have good safeties now and several in the class.
Hutson is a 4 star receiver that would hurt losing. However we had a fantastic WR class last year. Realistically there are too many Great WR’s that are Oregon leans right now. We have to turn some of them down. So while losing Hutson would be problematic there plenty of great receivers that want to go to Oregon.
And those 3-star starters you speak of were all Greatwood recruits. Greatwood was legitimately good at finding hidden gems and recruited athletic 260-270 pound high school recruits and built them up into decent players. Cristobal? Not so much. He loves the less athletic fatties. BEACHED WHALE!
Your O-line will suck after those Greatwood recruits graduate.
Btw Afasese has a .87 rating and is the composite 4th ranked recruit in Hawaii which will put him in the top half of UWs current recruiting class which does not have a single DL commit. Oregon has the nations #11 recruiting class on composite, #10 on 247 and easily #1 in the PAC12 by a massive margin. UW’s class is #54, trailing traditional powerhouses such as Western Michigan, Bowling Green, and Cincinnati.
Afasese's alleged .87 is worse than both Trice and Ngalu's rating last year (the UW commits who you are mocking). His actual .857 rating is much worse than them both.
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Read JHop’s take on this. I posted it already.
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backthepack said:
Hutson ran a 4.78 at 5”10 175... Roger Rosengarten ran a 4.85 at 6”7 275..
Both are rated 4 stars. It’s a fucking joke.
Myles Slusher and that DC kid will not stick either.
Once again you are just wrong:backthepack said:Hutson ran a 4.78 at 5”10 175... Roger Rosengarten ran a 4.85 at 6”7 275..
Both are rated 4 stars. It’s a fucking joke.
Myles Slusher and that DC kid will not stick either.
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SC seems to want him pretty bad. There on him like white on rice. I think he ends up at USC.
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You guys are all losers
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Chryst. This is why this bored needs more @AZDuck and @TierbsHsotBoobs and less @DJDuck and @StrongArmCobra.
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It's sad to see how far HH has fallen.IPukeOregonGrellow said:Chryst. This is why this bored needs more @AZDuck and @TierbsHsotBoobs and less @DJDuck and @StrongArmCobra.
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Trice was coveted bu UW, Notre Dame, and Oregon. The only begging that went on was Oregon begging him not to take his last OV to UW a week later. But I'm sure Oregon didn't want him after officially visiting him in the Fall two weeks before he made his decision. That was a pretty clear cut loss on Oregon's part. They wanted him. Treven Ma'ae was a plan B guy they took in advance in preparation for losing out on Trice. Nobody good wanted Ma'ae. His best committable offer was Oregon. Trice isn't small. He's 6'3.5 and 235 right now. A year in the weight room he'll be 250+.FirePeterman said:
lololol doog fans would really be the ones to criticize taking a 3 star project Dline guy and come back with Bralen Trice and Noa Ngalu. From following Oregon recruiting I know all about Trice, he begged to come to Oregon and was turned down as he literally has the body composition of a WR. If you want to see a day and night difference in body type look at a real DE player like Kavon Thibodeax, Treven Ma’ae, DJ Johnson, Adrian Jackson, etc and compare that to Trice. He was politely told no thanks by Cristobal when he came to visit and you gonna bring up Trice? Ngalu is another scrub, mountain west level player. Latu was a must get for you guys and has some tools but he is stiff as a board if the plan is to use him as a true edge you will find yourself disappointed. Paama is a good looking prospect, as is Bandes although he is a high floor low ceiling guy, much less potential than Paama. Tuitele is another good looking player. Only problem is all of UW best dline guys are interior Dline, which in today’s football is far less valuable then exterior edge rushers which Oregon has the best group of of any college program west of the Mississippi. Again the previous statement holds, Oregon has signed the best Dlineman and Olineman in the West last cycle, and already have the best exterior Dline guy on the west this cycle committed with the second best would be committed if he wasn’t failing every damn class (DeShawn Lynch).backthepack said:Faatui Tuitele, Saama Paama, Laitau Latu, Jacob Bandes, Bralen Trice, and Noa Ngalu say hi!
Ngalu was a top performer at the Poly bowl. He's super quick twitch and explosive. Played some running back in high school. Very athletic. When Noa Ngalu is your lowest rated D-lineman in a D-line class of four guys, you're doing very well. Ngalu would have easily been the best DT in Oregon's 2019 class.
UW is being very selective with D-line recruiting this class. They will only take one guy. 4-star Xavier Carlton could be that guy.
Navarrette won't sign with Oregon. Also, Deshawn Lynch is fucking terrible and not an edge prospect. He's a DT in college if he not too dumb to graduate high school. But Oregon does have some talent on the edge. I'll give them that. But you're an idiot if you think the big boys up front aren't more important than the edge guys. Your defense is going to get gashed in the run game. You don't have enough size up front. Luckily for us, UW has both elite DT talent and edge talent.
The best D-line and O-line classes signed last class by any team out West are quite easily both in UW's 2019 class. Not Oregon's. UW signed three 4-star guys on the O-line and three 4-star D-lineman as well as an underrated 3-star in Ngalu. UW signed the best DT class in the country last class that included the Opening Finals D-line MVP, Jacob Bandes. Sama Paama was the best DT prospect in the country and was criminally underrated because he's from Hawaii and didn't do any big camps on the mainland.
UW already beat out Oregon for one 4-star All-American O-lineman this class in Roger Rosengarten and will do so again for Geirean Hatchett very soon. Gaard Memmelaar is also a 4-star talent but he's underrated because he's from Idaho and doesn't do camps. UW still has a chance to land Myles Murao whereas Oregon was eliminated from his top list a long time ago. UW is out-recruiting Oregon for O-lineman right now by a large margin. -
I didn’t read. Anyone want to give the cliff notes?StrongArmCobra said:
Trice was coveted bu UW, Notre Dame, and Oregon. The only begging that went on was Oregon begging him not to take his last OV to UW a week later. But I'm sure Oregon didn't want him after officially visiting him in the Fall two weeks before he made his decision. That was a pretty clear cut loss on Oregon's part. They wanted him. Treven Ma'ae was a plan B guy they took in advance in preparation for losing out on Trice. Nobody good wanted Ma'ae. His best committable offer was Oregon. Trice isn't small. He's 6'3.5 and 235 right now. A year in the weight room he'll be 250+.FirePeterman said:
lololol doog fans would really be the ones to criticize taking a 3 star project Dline guy and come back with Bralen Trice and Noa Ngalu. From following Oregon recruiting I know all about Trice, he begged to come to Oregon and was turned down as he literally has the body composition of a WR. If you want to see a day and night difference in body type look at a real DE player like Kavon Thibodeax, Treven Ma’ae, DJ Johnson, Adrian Jackson, etc and compare that to Trice. He was politely told no thanks by Cristobal when he came to visit and you gonna bring up Trice? Ngalu is another scrub, mountain west level player. Latu was a must get for you guys and has some tools but he is stiff as a board if the plan is to use him as a true edge you will find yourself disappointed. Paama is a good looking prospect, as is Bandes although he is a high floor low ceiling guy, much less potential than Paama. Tuitele is another good looking player. Only problem is all of UW best dline guys are interior Dline, which in today’s football is far less valuable then exterior edge rushers which Oregon has the best group of of any college program west of the Mississippi. Again the previous statement holds, Oregon has signed the best Dlineman and Olineman in the West last cycle, and already have the best exterior Dline guy on the west this cycle committed with the second best would be committed if he wasn’t failing every damn class (DeShawn Lynch).backthepack said:Faatui Tuitele, Saama Paama, Laitau Latu, Jacob Bandes, Bralen Trice, and Noa Ngalu say hi!
Ngalu was a top performer at the Poly bowl. He's super quick twitch and explosive. Played some running back in high school. Very athletic. When Noa Ngalu is your lowest rated D-lineman in a D-line class of four guys, you're doing very well. Ngalu would have easily been the best DT in Oregon's 2019 class.
UW is being very selective with D-line recruiting this class. They will only take one guy. 4-star Xavier Carlton could be that guy.
Navarrette won't sign with Oregon. Also, Deshawn Lynch is fucking terrible and not an edge prospect. He's a DT in college if he not too dumb to graduate high school. But Oregon does have some talent on the edge. I'll give them that. But you're an idiot if you think the big boys up front aren't more important than the edge guys. Your defense is going to get gashed in the run game. You don't have enough size up front. Luckily for us, UW has both elite DT talent and edge talent.
The best D-line and O-line classes signed last class by any team out West are quite easily both in UW's 2019 class. Not Oregon's. UW signed three 4-star guys on the O-line and three 4-star D-lineman as well as an underrated 3-star in Ngalu. UW signed the best DT class in the country last class that included the Opening Finals D-line MVP, Jacob Bandes. Sama Paama was the best DT prospect in the country and was criminally underrated because he's from Hawaii and didn't do any big camps on the mainland.
UW already beat out Oregon for one 4-star All-American O-lineman this class in Roger Rosengarten and will do so again for Geirean Hatchett very soon. Gaard Memmelaar is also a 4-star talent but he's underrated because he's from Idaho and doesn't do camps. UW still has a chance to land Myles Murao whereas Oregon was eliminated from his top list a long time ago. UW is out-recruiting Oregon for O-lineman right now by a large margin.
Oregon bad
UW good
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Why not none?IPukeOregonGrellow said:Chryst. This is why this bored needs more @AZDuck and @TierbsHsotBoobs and less @DJDuck and @StrongArmCobra.
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What you would expect when UW has a better coaching staff and recruits better players.lawsandl said:
I didn’t read. Anyone want to give the cliff notes?StrongArmCobra said:
Trice was coveted bu UW, Notre Dame, and Oregon. The only begging that went on was Oregon begging him not to take his last OV to UW a week later. But I'm sure Oregon didn't want him after officially visiting him in the Fall two weeks before he made his decision. That was a pretty clear cut loss on Oregon's part. They wanted him. Treven Ma'ae was a plan B guy they took in advance in preparation for losing out on Trice. Nobody good wanted Ma'ae. His best committable offer was Oregon. Trice isn't small. He's 6'3.5 and 235 right now. A year in the weight room he'll be 250+.FirePeterman said:
lololol doog fans would really be the ones to criticize taking a 3 star project Dline guy and come back with Bralen Trice and Noa Ngalu. From following Oregon recruiting I know all about Trice, he begged to come to Oregon and was turned down as he literally has the body composition of a WR. If you want to see a day and night difference in body type look at a real DE player like Kavon Thibodeax, Treven Ma’ae, DJ Johnson, Adrian Jackson, etc and compare that to Trice. He was politely told no thanks by Cristobal when he came to visit and you gonna bring up Trice? Ngalu is another scrub, mountain west level player. Latu was a must get for you guys and has some tools but he is stiff as a board if the plan is to use him as a true edge you will find yourself disappointed. Paama is a good looking prospect, as is Bandes although he is a high floor low ceiling guy, much less potential than Paama. Tuitele is another good looking player. Only problem is all of UW best dline guys are interior Dline, which in today’s football is far less valuable then exterior edge rushers which Oregon has the best group of of any college program west of the Mississippi. Again the previous statement holds, Oregon has signed the best Dlineman and Olineman in the West last cycle, and already have the best exterior Dline guy on the west this cycle committed with the second best would be committed if he wasn’t failing every damn class (DeShawn Lynch).backthepack said:Faatui Tuitele, Saama Paama, Laitau Latu, Jacob Bandes, Bralen Trice, and Noa Ngalu say hi!
Ngalu was a top performer at the Poly bowl. He's super quick twitch and explosive. Played some running back in high school. Very athletic. When Noa Ngalu is your lowest rated D-lineman in a D-line class of four guys, you're doing very well. Ngalu would have easily been the best DT in Oregon's 2019 class.
UW is being very selective with D-line recruiting this class. They will only take one guy. 4-star Xavier Carlton could be that guy.
Navarrette won't sign with Oregon. Also, Deshawn Lynch is fucking terrible and not an edge prospect. He's a DT in college if he not too dumb to graduate high school. But Oregon does have some talent on the edge. I'll give them that. But you're an idiot if you think the big boys up front aren't more important than the edge guys. Your defense is going to get gashed in the run game. You don't have enough size up front. Luckily for us, UW has both elite DT talent and edge talent.
The best D-line and O-line classes signed last class by any team out West are quite easily both in UW's 2019 class. Not Oregon's. UW signed three 4-star guys on the O-line and three 4-star D-lineman as well as an underrated 3-star in Ngalu. UW signed the best DT class in the country last class that included the Opening Finals D-line MVP, Jacob Bandes. Sama Paama was the best DT prospect in the country and was criminally underrated because he's from Hawaii and didn't do any big camps on the mainland.
UW already beat out Oregon for one 4-star All-American O-lineman this class in Roger Rosengarten and will do so again for Geirean Hatchett very soon. Gaard Memmelaar is also a 4-star talent but he's underrated because he's from Idaho and doesn't do camps. UW still has a chance to land Myles Murao whereas Oregon was eliminated from his top list a long time ago. UW is out-recruiting Oregon for O-lineman right now by a large margin.
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I got the time to read this over.
-Trice was not a take. This was reported well before he committed and visited Oregon.
-If Trice ends up 250, he will be an injury concern. He looks like Jelks but 3 inches shorter.
-Ngalu is super short. I would much rather have Williams and Dorlus and their size/athleticism combination. Williams needs to get into a proper strength and conditioning program. Dorlus needs to fill out his frame. Ngalu will always be short.
-Oregon can’t be super selective on the DL. The numbers don’t allow it.
-Navarrette is dialed in and taking no other OVs.
-Lynch is not a take.
-Baker, Scott, and Faoliu are plenty big. The 2019 class has size. Williams and Dorlus are projected to play around 310 and Poti and Ware Hudson at 290. Cristobal thinks Dorlus settles around 315.
-UW pulled two 89 composite OL and a 87 composite. Let’s call it what it is. A decent haul not spectacular.
Oh, yeah, all muh 3 stars are underrated!
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SAC and Hondo are neck to neck in thread chinshittery
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Navarrette will not sign with Oregon. Take your screenshot bishlawsandl said:I got the time to read this over.
-Trice was not a take. This was reported well before he committed and visited Oregon.
-If Trice ends up 250, he will be an injury concern. He looks like Jelks but 3 inches shorter.
-Ngalu is super short. I would much rather have Williams and Dorlus and their size/athleticism combination. Williams needs to get into a proper strength and conditioning program. Dorlus needs to fill out his frame. Ngalu will always be short.
-Oregon can’t be super selective on the DL. The numbers don’t allow it.
-Navarrette is dialed in and taking no other OVs.
-Lynch is not a take.
-Baker, Scott, and Faoliu are plenty big. The 2019 class has size. Williams and Dorlus are projected to play around 310 and Poti and Ware Hudson at 290. Cristobal thinks Dorlus settles around 315.
-UW pulled two 89 composite OL and a 87 composite. Let’s call it what it is. A decent haul not spectacular.
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Recruiting is fluid, so it’s not a hill I will die on. However, is there anything concrete right now that makes him soft?
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Recruiting in the 50's has been good enough to rag doll Oregon 4 years in a row.DJDuck said:Given the milieu in the PAC 12 it will be one of us for awhile IMO.
Utah, Colorado, WSU, OSU, ASU, UA are just lacking
Cal has a new young coach and is doing better but they have a ways to go.
UCLA-Chip is a good coach but hates to recruit and it shows
USC is always a threat and will get good players but won’t be what they could be with Helton still at the helm. Oregon has made huge inroads into USC traditional territories of Mater Dei, St John Bosco, Narbonne, Norco and others.
Both UO & UO have recruiters that the other schools can’t match.
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Trice was absolutely a take you idiot. Oregon's suck ass is not turning down a recruit that is being heavily pursued by UW and Notre Dame, especially a defensive recruit UW wants. They tried to get him to commit and cancel his UW official visit for a week later. He said no. Any bullshit spin from you quook mods was preemptive WDWHA bullshit. Oregon knew in advance of his OV to Oregon that he was committing two weeks later. If you don't want a fucking kid and know he's about to commit two weeks later, you don't waste your fucking time officially visiting him. You think Trice would have taken that OV to Oregon if he didn't have a committable offer from them? He had offers from UW, USC, Bama, and Notre Dame and you think Oregon officially visited him and was like "no thanks". Lol get the fuck out of here. They wanted him just as much as UW and would have taken him. I also don't know what your retarded ass is talking about but Trice is not small at all. He's 6'3.5 and thicc. 250 was being conservative. He'll be 260-270 in a couple years. He's built like Joe Tryon.lawsandl said:I got the time to read this over.
-Trice was not a take. This was reported well before he committed and visited Oregon.
-If Trice ends up 250, he will be an injury concern. He looks like Jelks but 3 inches shorter.
-Ngalu is super short. I would much rather have Williams and Dorlus and their size/athleticism combination. Williams needs to get into a proper strength and conditioning program. Dorlus needs to fill out his frame. Ngalu will always be short.
-Oregon can’t be super selective on the DL. The numbers don’t allow it.
-Navarrette is dialed in and taking no other OVs.
-Lynch is not a take.
-Baker, Scott, and Faoliu are plenty big. The 2019 class has size. Williams and Dorlus are projected to play around 310 and Poti and Ware Hudson at 290. Cristobal thinks Dorlus settles around 315.
-UW pulled two 89 composite OL and a 87 composite. Let’s call it what it is. A decent haul not spectacular.
Oh, yeah, all muh 3 stars are underrated!
Ngalu is 6'0.5 and will be 290 as a RS Freshman. Same height as Greg Gaines and a bunch of DTs on Oregon's roster. Jordan Scott is a midget. Neither of your D-line commits last class are more athletic or more explosive. Like I said, Ngalu played some RB at 280 pounds and showed a quick burst while doing it. He also balled out at the Poly bowl and was unblockable in one on ones. Dorlus is not 290 and would have to get fat to get up to 315. Kristian Williams is ass. Like I said, our lowest rated D-line signee is better than your highest rated one.
You're right, Oregon can't be super selective this class because UW kicked their asses taking all the best D-lineman last class and starved them out. Now they have to take just a bunch of warm bodies just to prevent massive depth issues in the future.
Navarrette commits to whatever school he last visited. His commitment is as solid as a fart in the wind. He'll be eyeing an official visit to UW in the Fall. He'll have to be a complete idiot not to, considering UW's success on defense. Are you calling him an idiot?
All of UW's O-lineman from last class are composite 4-stars. All of them have huge upside. Fautanu is a 5-star talent. His athleticism and speed are off the charts for an offensive lineman. He's already up to 295 and has a chance to start for UW at RT as a RS Freshman. Buelow and Kalepo are genetic freaks. They have the potential to be dominant players three years from now. Buelow has All-American LT potential. He's so big, so long, and moves his feet with ease. And he's not fat either.
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WOOOOOOO! Oregon SURGING ahead of Iowa State and Purdue for Marcus Harper! Please get him!
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This is fair, but come on, it's a lot easier to shoot 50% from 3 on 2 attempts per game.dnc said:
Raw numbers are meaningless at this point, the only thing that matters (for a school that has any decent ability to recruit anyway) are percentages.DJDuck said:As of now these are the class rankings of schools we are talking about:
#11 Oregon
#54 Washington
#60 USC
Facts about 3 star recruits in this years class
Clemson has FIVE 3 star commits
Alabama has THREE 3 star commits
LSU has FIVE 3 star commits
Clemson: 4 3 stars out of 18 commits = 87.8% blue chips, overall average score of 94.56 (1st)
Bama: 3 3 stars out of 15 commits = 80% blue chips, overall average score of 93.35 (4th)
LSU: 5 3 stars out of 20 commits = 75% blue chips, overall average score of 92.47 (5th)
Oregon: 7 3 stars out of 13 commits = 46.15% blue chips, overall average score of 89.58 (19th)
Washington: 3 3 stars out of 6 commits = 50% blue chips, overall average score of 89.06 (21st)
Washington and Oregon's classes are roughly equal right now. You can argue Oregon's is better because fuller is better than emptier, but OTOH Oregon's top commit in these calculations isn't really committed to them and Washington's class is definitely trending better of late.
I'm honestly kind of surprised by how much Oregon's recruiting momentum has slowed down, I didn't expect that. Ever since the shit they pulled with Smalls it's like they can only take 3 stars. It's almost like karma's a bitch... -
True, but when you're talking about a program which took 15 four stars and 8 3 stars last year, but is at 50-50 right now, I'd rather have more spots open than more spots filled in that scenario.dtd said:
This is fair, but come on, it's a lot easier to shoot 50% from 3 on 2 attempts per game.dnc said:
Raw numbers are meaningless at this point, the only thing that matters (for a school that has any decent ability to recruit anyway) are percentages.DJDuck said:As of now these are the class rankings of schools we are talking about:
#11 Oregon
#54 Washington
#60 USC
Facts about 3 star recruits in this years class
Clemson has FIVE 3 star commits
Alabama has THREE 3 star commits
LSU has FIVE 3 star commits
Clemson: 4 3 stars out of 18 commits = 87.8% blue chips, overall average score of 94.56 (1st)
Bama: 3 3 stars out of 15 commits = 80% blue chips, overall average score of 93.35 (4th)
LSU: 5 3 stars out of 20 commits = 75% blue chips, overall average score of 92.47 (5th)
Oregon: 7 3 stars out of 13 commits = 46.15% blue chips, overall average score of 89.58 (19th)
Washington: 3 3 stars out of 6 commits = 50% blue chips, overall average score of 89.06 (21st)
Washington and Oregon's classes are roughly equal right now. You can argue Oregon's is better because fuller is better than emptier, but OTOH Oregon's top commit in these calculations isn't really committed to them and Washington's class is definitely trending better of late.
I'm honestly kind of surprised by how much Oregon's recruiting momentum has slowed down, I didn't expect that. Ever since the shit they pulled with Smalls it's like they can only take 3 stars. It's almost like karma's a bitch... -
Oregon doesn't have real commits. Decommit U.
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Oregon is taking a pretty small class in comparison to year's past, so quality is more important this year. It's concerning, and really no way to sugarcoat it.dtd said:
This is fair, but come on, it's a lot easier to shoot 50% from 3 on 2 attempts per game.dnc said:
Raw numbers are meaningless at this point, the only thing that matters (for a school that has any decent ability to recruit anyway) are percentages.DJDuck said:As of now these are the class rankings of schools we are talking about:
#11 Oregon
#54 Washington
#60 USC
Facts about 3 star recruits in this years class
Clemson has FIVE 3 star commits
Alabama has THREE 3 star commits
LSU has FIVE 3 star commits
Clemson: 4 3 stars out of 18 commits = 87.8% blue chips, overall average score of 94.56 (1st)
Bama: 3 3 stars out of 15 commits = 80% blue chips, overall average score of 93.35 (4th)
LSU: 5 3 stars out of 20 commits = 75% blue chips, overall average score of 92.47 (5th)
Oregon: 7 3 stars out of 13 commits = 46.15% blue chips, overall average score of 89.58 (19th)
Washington: 3 3 stars out of 6 commits = 50% blue chips, overall average score of 89.06 (21st)
Washington and Oregon's classes are roughly equal right now. You can argue Oregon's is better because fuller is better than emptier, but OTOH Oregon's top commit in these calculations isn't really committed to them and Washington's class is definitely trending better of late.
I'm honestly kind of surprised by how much Oregon's recruiting momentum has slowed down, I didn't expect that. Ever since the shit they pulled with Smalls it's like they can only take 3 stars. It's almost like karma's a bitch...
To combat SAC's point about the trenches. The trenches are the most important for sure, but Washington isn't pulling in the skill guys they need. Stanford, Michigan St., Michigan, and Wisconsin load up on the trenches every year. How many national titles have they won? Better yet, how many playoffs have they made? It's 75% trenches, but if UW can't even get a guy like Smalls from their own backyard, that's a problem. You can say the kid is drama and immature, but that's pretty much every high level skill player. Pete and company's recruiting strategy is great for getting high quality trenches, but you need to "wine and dine and 69" the high level skill guys. Peterman refuses, and that will continue to hold this team back. -
They brought in Trice because they were still considering a rush end. It wasn’t like Trice wasn’t a take but they weren’t going to chase him with a bird in the hand. Trice was not a must take player.
I highly doubt he get anywhere near 260. Kid is not broad in the shoulder or have sand in his pants. Ma’ae definitely has the bigger frame. -
This is quite honestly the only time I like the Cuogs. I used to root for both team planes to crash but I love this winning streak and now root for WSU once a yearsalemcoog said:
Recruiting in the 50's has been good enough to rag doll Oregon 4 years in a row.DJDuck said:Given the milieu in the PAC 12 it will be one of us for awhile IMO.
Utah, Colorado, WSU, OSU, ASU, UA are just lacking
Cal has a new young coach and is doing better but they have a ways to go.
UCLA-Chip is a good coach but hates to recruit and it shows
USC is always a threat and will get good players but won’t be what they could be with Helton still at the helm. Oregon has made huge inroads into USC traditional territories of Mater Dei, St John Bosco, Narbonne, Norco and others.
Both UO & UO have recruiters that the other schools can’t match.
