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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    bananasnblondes said:

    insinceredawg said:

    guntlove said:

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    guntlove said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    guntlove said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    It won't be a super exciting class but it won't be a disappointment either. We need to load up on offense with better talent so that's what I think they're gonna do. We've had classes dominated by defense recently so it's time to really focus on this pussy ass offense. You look at the offensive class they're lining up and you are looking at a lot of big, physical, tough dudes at every position. Big receivers, big running backs, big TE's. All of them are just big. This class will make our offense bad ass and equal to the talent we already have on defense. It's a meat and potatoes class. Won't be flashy. But will easily be the best class in the Pac-12 in a down year for talent.

    I hear what you're saying... and I agree (if we actually get Adams/McMillan/Rosengarden/Hatchet) that it would be a pretty solid offensive class. But there's no good reason why our defensive recruiting should have to fall off in order to sign a solid offensive class. It's not just low on numbers defensively (which would be okay), it's way low on fucking talent in a lot of areas. LIPO, I guess.
    It is mostly because we are low on scholarships available for the defense. We have loaded up on defense the past two classes so now we don't have a lot of room on that side of the ball. You also have to recognize that the 2020 class sucks. There's just not a lot of elite talent to go around compared to previous classes.

    This DB class will be elite as usual.

    DL was always going to be just one guy because of the big haul they took last class. Shipley is an animal. When I watch a D-line recruit's high school highlights I want to see a guy who enjoys physically dominating other human beings, plays with relentless effort, and does it consistently. I see that from Shipley. His size and movement ability is similar to Drake Jackson at the same age. There are quite a few plays in Shipley's film in which he surprises you with how quick he is off the ball. The more I watch his film the more I like him. He could be a big steal for us.

    ILB will be nonexistent. Just pretend Tuputala, Ah You, and Fowler are the 2021 ILB class because that's essentially what they are. They will redshirt and get bumped back a class while Calvert and Heimuli play right away.

    The biggest disappointment right now is no doubt OLB. Smalls is now a long shot after whatever drama went on between him and UW behind the scenes that caused him to supposedly eliminate us in the Spring. Bama and Ohio State are not taking Jordan Banks, but Oklahoma will. He's not coming here. It also blows my mind that Damian Sellers isn't interested in UW at all. That's how bad Kwat sucks at recruiting. I think our best chance to get a legit level up talent at OLB in this class is to flip Jaden Navarrette from Oregon and I think that's a legit possibility with how good UW's defense is gonna be this season. I won't be surprised to hear he's taking an official visit to UW at some point.
    I'll never understand why Petersen steadfastly refuses to address this shit. It's been a huge problem for years. He had a chance to fix it with the extra assistant coach a couple of years back and he chose not to. Kwat's total fucking uselessness as a recruiter and Pete's steadfast unwillingness to address the problem is hurting the program. And It's gonna continue to be an issue against blue blood teams going forward, just like it was against Penn State an Ohio State.

    This year's OLB recruiting is a fucking farce. Jesus... Kwat is so fucking inept... Smalls, Banks, Navarette, Sellers... he can't even get visits out of these dudes. He has no fucking clue. It's a really bad look for Pete that he hasn't figured out a solution for this after five years.
    Too extreme. Don't like it. Dude is the mastermind behind our D, and I won't allow his name to be taken in vain. What's he supposed to do with Kwat? Fire him? C'mon. Kwat took a title demotion to keep Lake on board. He's the key to our defense and Pete's right hand man, whether you like it or not. He got Latu last year, arguably one of the better specimens in the nation. Tryon is about to explode. We can only guess what's going on right now with recruiting in June. Some think Smalls is still in play. Not counting Banks out. Not counting Navarette out. Where's the blame with Lake? He's the D coordinator. I don't care if he's a secondary guy. He's everything now. If Lake is that good of recruiter, he should be able to recruit more than just the secondary to a team with a best-in-conference D for 4 years running and NFL draft picks left and right. Kwat is a COACH. Expecting him to be an elite recruiter is an exercise in futility. I'm perfectly OK with that, considering the results. Blame the offense.
    Pete is the boss, he can tell Lake to help recruit linebackers, so he gets the blame if Kwat misses on guys.
    This.

    Pete gets paid 4 mil/year to figure this shit out. He could have hired Gerald Alexander, but he didn’t. He could’ve given Lake more responsibility with recruiting OLBs, but he didn’t. He’s left Kwat out there on an island and the dude has been failing on a spectacular level for years.

    Of course Kwat’s a genius coordinator... but he’s fucking terrible at one very important part of his job. So if we’re going to keep him around... which I think we should... it’s on Pete to figure out a way to get him some recruiting help. Whatever they’re going right now is not working at all.

    I think Tyron will be good... but he hasn’t done a fucking thing yet to warrant that level of optimism. Also... Kwat doesn’t get a lot of credit for Latu... that dude was recruited by all the other poly signees far more than by Kwat.
    I heard they did reach out to him for the 10th position coach spot before hiring Harris. He had no interest in coaching LBs and felt it would be a demotion to be the assistant DB coach under Lake vs running the secondary on his own at Cal. Just what I'm hearing don't twist.
    We loved Gerald as a GA when he was here but he hasn't exactly had a stellar recruiting footprint at Cal. I know it's Cal but he should be able to do better than he has recruiting dbs in California.
    I agree with this. He's been a fantastic DB coach but hasn't shown himself to be anything special as a recruiter.
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  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,084
    dnc said:

    insinceredawg said:

    guntlove said:

    Neighbor2972 said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    guntlove said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    guntlove said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    It won't be a super exciting class but it won't be a disappointment either. We need to load up on offense with better talent so that's what I think they're gonna do. We've had classes dominated by defense recently so it's time to really focus on this pussy ass offense. You look at the offensive class they're lining up and you are looking at a lot of big, physical, tough dudes at every position. Big receivers, big running backs, big TE's. All of them are just big. This class will make our offense bad ass and equal to the talent we already have on defense. It's a meat and potatoes class. Won't be flashy. But will easily be the best class in the Pac-12 in a down year for talent.

    I hear what you're saying... and I agree (if we actually get Adams/McMillan/Rosengarden/Hatchet) that it would be a pretty solid offensive class. But there's no good reason why our defensive recruiting should have to fall off in order to sign a solid offensive class. It's not just low on numbers defensively (which would be okay), it's way low on fucking talent in a lot of areas. LIPO, I guess.
    It is mostly because we are low on scholarships available for the defense. We have loaded up on defense the past two classes so now we don't have a lot of room on that side of the ball. You also have to recognize that the 2020 class sucks. There's just not a lot of elite talent to go around compared to previous classes.

    This DB class will be elite as usual.

    DL was always going to be just one guy because of the big haul they took last class. Shipley is an animal. When I watch a D-line recruit's high school highlights I want to see a guy who enjoys physically dominating other human beings, plays with relentless effort, and does it consistently. I see that from Shipley. His size and movement ability is similar to Drake Jackson at the same age. There are quite a few plays in Shipley's film in which he surprises you with how quick he is off the ball. The more I watch his film the more I like him. He could be a big steal for us.

    ILB will be nonexistent. Just pretend Tuputala, Ah You, and Fowler are the 2021 ILB class because that's essentially what they are. They will redshirt and get bumped back a class while Calvert and Heimuli play right away.

    The biggest disappointment right now is no doubt OLB. Smalls is now a long shot after whatever drama went on between him and UW behind the scenes that caused him to supposedly eliminate us in the Spring. Bama and Ohio State are not taking Jordan Banks, but Oklahoma will. He's not coming here. It also blows my mind that Damian Sellers isn't interested in UW at all. That's how bad Kwat sucks at recruiting. I think our best chance to get a legit level up talent at OLB in this class is to flip Jaden Navarrette from Oregon and I think that's a legit possibility with how good UW's defense is gonna be this season. I won't be surprised to hear he's taking an official visit to UW at some point.
    I'll never understand why Petersen steadfastly refuses to address this shit. It's been a huge problem for years. He had a chance to fix it with the extra assistant coach a couple of years back and he chose not to. Kwat's total fucking uselessness as a recruiter and Pete's steadfast unwillingness to address the problem is hurting the program. And It's gonna continue to be an issue against blue blood teams going forward, just like it was against Penn State an Ohio State.

    This year's OLB recruiting is a fucking farce. Jesus... Kwat is so fucking inept... Smalls, Banks, Navarette, Sellers... he can't even get visits out of these dudes. He has no fucking clue. It's a really bad look for Pete that he hasn't figured out a solution for this after five years.
    Too extreme. Don't like it. Dude is the mastermind behind our D, and I won't allow his name to be taken in vain. What's he supposed to do with Kwat? Fire him? C'mon. Kwat took a title demotion to keep Lake on board. He's the key to our defense and Pete's right hand man, whether you like it or not. He got Latu last year, arguably one of the better specimens in the nation. Tryon is about to explode. We can only guess what's going on right now with recruiting in June. Some think Smalls is still in play. Not counting Banks out. Not counting Navarette out. Where's the blame with Lake? He's the D coordinator. I don't care if he's a secondary guy. He's everything now. If Lake is that good of recruiter, he should be able to recruit more than just the secondary to a team with a best-in-conference D for 4 years running and NFL draft picks left and right. Kwat is a COACH. Expecting him to be an elite recruiter is an exercise in futility. I'm perfectly OK with that, considering the results. Blame the offense.
    Pete is the boss, he can tell Lake to help recruit linebackers, so he gets the blame if Kwat misses on guys.
    This.

    Pete gets paid 4 mil/year to figure this shit out. He could have hired Gerald Alexander, but he didn’t. He could’ve given Lake more responsibility with recruiting OLBs, but he didn’t. He’s left Kwat out there on an island and the dude has been failing on a spectacular level for years.

    Of course Kwat’s a genius coordinator... but he’s fucking terrible at one very important part of his job. So if we’re going to keep him around... which I think we should... it’s on Pete to figure out a way to get him some recruiting help. Whatever they’re going right now is not working at all.

    I think Tyron will be good... but he hasn’t done a fucking thing yet to warrant that level of optimism. Also... Kwat doesn’t get a lot of credit for Latu... that dude was recruited by all the other poly signees far more than by Kwat.
    I heard they did reach out to him for the 10th position coach spot before hiring Harris. He had no interest in coaching LBs and felt it would be a demotion to be the assistant DB coach under Lake vs running the secondary on his own at Cal. Just what I'm hearing don't twist.
    This absolutely makes sense.

    But money talks, there's surely a price point at which Alexander could be persuaded to coach LBs. We obviously didn't meet it.
    Money absolutely does talk. That’s why my dumbass might end up in Waco if the fucking offer does come down

    Waco <?>Tally

    When I don’t get it I’m gonna be like I didn’t want it anyway.
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  • Beno4Life
    Beno4Life Member Posts: 533
    Woof said:

    On today's Dawgman recruiting pod, Eklund said he anticipates that we? will be receiving commits before the end of June from:
    - Breuner
    - Hatchett
    - Esteen
    - Jackson
    - Covington

    Also listed Adams as a guy who could potentially commit. Added that he might be underestimating the number of commitments.

    Kim was insufferable as usual, so you've all been warned before listening.

    Jackson, huh?
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  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,084
    Swaye said:

    Neighbor2972 said:

    Woof said:

    On today's Dawgman recruiting pod, Eklund said he anticipates that we? will be receiving commits before the end of June from:
    - Breuner
    - Hatchett
    - Esteen
    - Jackson
    - Covington

    Also listed Adams as a guy who could potentially commit. Added that he might be underestimating the number of commitments.

    Kim was insufferable as usual, so you've all been warned before listening.

    My favorite Eklund-ism today was that Julien Simon does not have an offer because he is bad at stretching.
    You try stretching when you're 40.
    35... and it’s fucking impossible.
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  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054
    Like I said before, regardless of what the boreds thoughts are on Jackson, we offered him pretty much right after we were losing ground on Ringo/Ransom. I think Lake likes him quite a bit.
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  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    Woof said:

    On today's Dawgman recruiting pod, Eklund said he anticipates that we? will be receiving commits before the end of June from:
    - Breuner
    - Hatchett
    - Esteen
    - Jackson
    - Covington

    Also listed Adams as a guy who could potentially commit. Added that he might be underestimating the number of commitments.

    Kim was insufferable as usual, so you've all been warned before listening.

    I don't even get the point of having Kim on the pod. He brings absolutely nothing to the table and it's clear that both Ektard and Fatters despise him.
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  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    insinceredawg said:

    Woof said:

    On today's Dawgman recruiting pod, Eklund said he anticipates that we? will be receiving commits before the end of June from:
    - Breuner
    - Hatchett
    - Esteen
    - Jackson
    - Covington

    Also listed Adams as a guy who could potentially commit. Added that he might be underestimating the number of commitments.

    Kim was insufferable as usual, so you've all been warned before listening.

    I don't even get the point of having Kim on the pod. He brings absolutely nothing to the table and it's clear that both Ektard and Fatters despise him.
    To be fair who doesn’t despise Keem?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    Kim is a good guy
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited June 2019
    FKA_Mousecop said:

    Like I said before, regardless of what the boreds thoughts are on Jackson, we offered him pretty much right after we were losing ground on Ringo/Ransom. I think Lake likes him quite a bit.

    Jimmy Lake can fuck off with that hidden gem bullshit. Jackson's film looks like absolute shit and his offer sheet looks like shit. Nobody wants him. So why is the best DB school out West recruiting him? He looks like a Mountain West or lower end Pac-12 caliber talent and that's what his offer sheet reflects outside of his UW offer. This isn't a Dom Hampton scenario. He's not actually a hidden gem. The kid sucks until he proves otherwise his Senior year.
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  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,084
    Swaye said:

    sinceredawg said:

    Kim's a pig but at least he can laugh at himself. Fetters is peevishly condescending and Eklund struggles to understand what's going on.

    Let's see where your head is at when your kid has had the crud since 2009!
    Just wait until lil swaye brings home the crud from school every year. Then if you’re an idiot and don’t get snipped, you’ll have multiple little swayes running around with the crud.

    My house turns into a fucking Petri dish during flu season.

    Turn your house into a Petri dish full of crud each year and then pop off.
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  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,623 Founders Club
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    dirtysouwfdawg said:

    Swaye said:

    sinceredawg said:

    Kim's a pig but at least he can laugh at himself. Fetters is peevishly condescending and Eklund struggles to understand what's going on.

    Let's see where your head is at when your kid has had the crud since 2009!
    Just wait until lil swaye brings home the crud from school every year. Then if you’re an idiot and don’t get snipped, you’ll have multiple little swayes running around with the crud.

    My house turns into a fucking Petri dish during flu season.

    Turn your house into a Petri dish full of crud each year and then pop off.
    @Swaye is going to be busy hitting on Milf's at the local funtastic fitness kid's gym. Either that or he's going to be dead from his kid coming home with the measles bc his rich white wife did her "research" on vaccines.
    Measles, mumps, chicken pox, polio etc... Fuck those "educated" people with a conical cheese grater.
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Ruthy is making cryptic posts again. Saying something insane is coming that she cannot explain. Said it's not GSjr.

    I was gonna guess what she was talking about by thread placement but I have no clue.
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  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,084
    dhdawg said:

    Ruthy is making cryptic posts again. Saying something insane is coming that she cannot explain. Said it's not GSjr.

    I was gonna guess what she was talking about by thread placement but I have no clue.

    McMillan would be insane. Maybe a two or three #woof weekend??

    Knowing (not really) Ruth she’s probably referencing a big sale at one of her favorite stores.
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Domicillo said:

    dhdawg said:

    Ruthy is making cryptic posts again. Saying something insane is coming that she cannot explain. Said it's not GSjr.

    I was gonna guess what she was talking about by thread placement but I have no clue.

    She was eluding to Murao earlier in the week... he’s gone silent since his OV and would be especially surprising if he committed considering he said he initially wanted to commit at the AA game.
    She did go on to say it was about the site, which tells me something may be going down with the LPT.

    I thought about murao but didn't want to bump that post.
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  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,084
    Lpt?
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  • sinceredawg
    sinceredawg Member Posts: 834
    dnc said:

    dirtysouwfdawg said:

    Lpt?







    Wish I could both chin and fuck off this poast at once.
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