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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    TommySQC said:

    That was probably the first key moment where I realized that he was irredeemable and had gone over Sarkisian Falls in a barrel.

    Derek Johnson is one of my favorite historical figures, and has some outstanding quotes attributed to him!
    TommySQC has always been one of my favorite classy posters.
  • ACSlaterDawgACSlaterDawg Member Posts: 200
    VAdawg, my contention is Sirmon & Tosh are big-time recruiters but going 7-6 three years in a row is holding them back. Recruits aren't stupid. They see that Sark is a mediocre coach who only has credibility as an OC and QB coach.

    In regards to the OL, which offense would you rather block for? Sarks? Look at Oregon, Stanford and Arizona (Rich Rod). Plus USC and UCLA are always competition. Sark is why we can't recruit O-lineman. But I guess after this season we can hire a big-time OL coach/recruiter to replace Cozetto since its never Sark's fault.
    vadawg said:

    Did you forget the sarcasm sign, or are you bi polar;-)

    "Great Class" doesn't describe this past class. It's a good class, especially for the DL. But it could have been much better, if Sark and Co could have closed properly. But most importantly, we came away with one of the top WR classes, but a below avg. OL class....similar to RN's tactical recruiting. Where did that get us?

    Sark and Co., are OK recruiters. But they continue to fail on the OL! A program CANNOT become elite without an above average/good OL......period. We don't come close to avg., let alone above avg.....and Good, is so fucking far away...it's disgusting.

    Passion, those of us that grew tired of being treated like adolescents have found refuge here. Dawgman needs some competition and we need to get this place moving, so welcome. Ironically, my final straw at DM was when I posted *thud* on the board in your absence in reference to losing Daeshon Hall on signing day and got a 3-day timeout.

    You must be miserable. Step back from the ledge. Who cares that we lost Hall? Have you seen how skinny he is? It was a great class.

    If you are going to punch a wall or beat the dog through your keyboard, this is not the place for you.

  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    VAdawg, my contention is Sirmon & Tosh are big-time recruiters but going 7-6 three years in a row is holding them back. Recruits aren't stupid. They see that Sark is a mediocre coach who only has credibility as an OC and QB coach.

    Based on his work at Cal and UW, I think Tosh recruits a bunch of highly rated All-Airport pussies.

    Wilcox, Sirmon, and Tosh all chose to work for Sark. How good can they be?

  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    VAdawg, my contention is Sirmon & Tosh are big-time recruiters but going 7-6 three years in a row is holding them back. Recruits aren't stupid. They see that Sark is a mediocre coach who only has credibility as an OC and QB coach.

    Based on his work at Cal and UW, I think Tosh recruits a bunch of highly rated All-Airport pussies.

    Wilcox, Sirmon, and Tosh all chose to work for Sark. How good can they be?

    Wilcox is damn good. He turned around the UW defensive with a quickness. He chose to work for a coach with great job security that would give him enough time to show what he can do and get promoted to an HC position.

    He knew what he was doing. Didn't hurt that UW likes to pay its coordinators more than anyone else will.

  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    VAdawg, my contention is Sirmon & Tosh are big-time recruiters but going 7-6 three years in a row is holding them back. Recruits aren't stupid. They see that Sark is a mediocre coach who only has credibility as an OC and QB coach.

    Based on his work at Cal and UW, I think Tosh recruits a bunch of highly rated All-Airport pussies.

    Wilcox, Sirmon, and Tosh all chose to work for Sark. How good can they be?

    Wilcox is damn good. He turned around the UW defensive with a quickness. He chose to work for a coach with great job security that would give him enough time to show what he can do and get promoted to an HC position.

    He knew what he was doing. Didn't hurt that UW likes to pay its coordinators more than anyone else will.

    Touche.



    Douche.
  • ACSlaterDawgACSlaterDawg Member Posts: 200
    Don't forget that Wilcox and Sirmon didn't exactly have job security at Tennessee knowing Dooley would be gone in less than a year. Go to a school where they can get a huge paycheck and basically start with the bar at 0.
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Don't forget that Wilcox and Sirmon didn't exactly have job security at Tennessee knowing Dooley would be gone in less than a year. Go to a school where they can get a huge paycheck and basically start with the bar at 0.

    bingo

  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,539 Founders Club
    edited March 2013
    TommySQC said:

    That was probably the first key moment where I realized that he was irredeemable and had gone over Sarkisian Falls in a barrel.

    Derek Johnson is one of my favorite historical figures, and has some outstanding quotes attributed to him!
    And to think that I'm only about 5% as creative as Race.
  • PassionPassion Member Posts: 4,622
    And therein lies the problem. It's never Sark's fault. It wasn't his fault that he hired nick holt, mike cox, and the other defensive failures of his first staff.

    It wasn't his fault that he keeps cozzetto around or that his O-line recruiting classes are near the bottom of the conference.

    And now he's got dawgman.com defending him, and ensuring that there is no forum for fans to voice their frustrations. Pretty sickening.

    VAdawg, my contention is Sirmon & Tosh are big-time recruiters but going 7-6 three years in a row is holding them back. Recruits aren't stupid. They see that Sark is a mediocre coach who only has credibility as an OC and QB coach.

    In regards to the OL, which offense would you rather block for? Sarks? Look at Oregon, Stanford and Arizona (Rich Rod). Plus USC and UCLA are always competition. Sark is why we can't recruit O-lineman. But I guess after this season we can hire a big-time OL coach/recruiter to replace Cozetto since its never Sark's fault.


    vadawg said:

    Did you forget the sarcasm sign, or are you bi polar;-)

    "Great Class" doesn't describe this past class. It's a good class, especially for the DL. But it could have been much better, if Sark and Co could have closed properly. But most importantly, we came away with one of the top WR classes, but a below avg. OL class....similar to RN's tactical recruiting. Where did that get us?

    Sark and Co., are OK recruiters. But they continue to fail on the OL! A program CANNOT become elite without an above average/good OL......period. We don't come close to avg., let alone above avg.....and Good, is so fucking far away...it's disgusting.

    Passion, those of us that grew tired of being treated like adolescents have found refuge here. Dawgman needs some competition and we need to get this place moving, so welcome. Ironically, my final straw at DM was when I posted *thud* on the board in your absence in reference to losing Daeshon Hall on signing day and got a 3-day timeout.

    You must be miserable. Step back from the ledge. Who cares that we lost Hall? Have you seen how skinny he is? It was a great class.

    If you are going to punch a wall or beat the dog through your keyboard, this is not the place for you.

  • DisplacedDawgDisplacedDawg Member Posts: 42
    A big part of the problem was hiring an OC with no coaching tree. It seemed like Sark basically had to beg Holt to come here. We all hoped Sark would be able to surround himself with quality coaches that would address his deficiencies and allow him to mature as the head man, but what kind of quality supporting cast can you assemble as an unproven boss?
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,539 Founders Club
    think about it... in 2009 Sark is claiming to have the best staff in the nation and the best defensive coordinator in the country. three years later he's surrendering 67 points and 777 yards in a bowl game and firing said coordinator. and the masses give him credit for making the tough decisions... it's bizarro world
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited March 2013

    A big part of the problem was hiring an OC with no coaching tree. It seemed like Sark basically had to beg Holt to come here. We all hoped Sark would be able to surround himself with quality coaches that would address his deficiencies and allow him to mature as the head man, but what kind of quality supporting cast can you assemble as an unproven boss?

    Wait...In 2008 I was told we had the best staff in the nation..Are you saying that was bullshit? Staff?

    With this news, the next thing you know, you're going to tell me Sark coaching USC and FREE PUB! in December of 2008 really didn't help recuiting.
  • DisplacedDawgDisplacedDawg Member Posts: 42
    Just call me a nega-dawg, Damone.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    think about it... in 2009 Sark is claiming to have the best staff in the nation and the best defensive coordinator in the country. three years later he's surrendering 67 points and 777 yards in a bowl game and firing said coordinator. and the masses give him credit for making the tough decisions... it's bizarro world

    The masses deserve another 0-12. Simple fact.
  • ACSlaterDawgACSlaterDawg Member Posts: 200

    A big part of the problem was hiring an OC with no coaching tree. It seemed like Sark basically had to beg Holt to come here. We all hoped Sark would be able to surround himself with quality coaches that would address his deficiencies and allow him to mature as the head man, but what kind of quality supporting cast can you assemble as an unproven boss?

    Sark is an OC masquerading as a HC...and he sucks as an OC anyway. The 2011 offense wasn't that good. It was inflated by the red zone play. Anyone who can't see that Sark hit his peak is a fucking clown. And if the offense this year is not top 25, he should be fired on that just by itself.
  • PassionPassion Member Posts: 4,622

    think about it... in 2009 Sark is claiming to have the best staff in the nation and the best defensive coordinator in the country. three years later he's surrendering 67 points and 777 yards in a bowl game and firing said coordinator. and the masses give him credit for making the tough decisions... it's bizarro world

    In 2012 I telephone KJR and laid out why I Sark has not reached a level that is satisfactory after 4 years. Baird got into it with me, but Softy said it was "a great call by a passionate Husky Fan."

    Among my points were the facts that you just laid out. Why is this guy given credit for having the "courage" to fire his defensive staff, while not getting the blame for hiring them in the first place? It's friggin' lunacy.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Passion said:

    think about it... in 2009 Sark is claiming to have the best staff in the nation and the best defensive coordinator in the country. three years later he's surrendering 67 points and 777 yards in a bowl game and firing said coordinator. and the masses give him credit for making the tough decisions... it's bizarro world

    In 2012 I telephone KJR and laid out why I Sark has not reached a level that is satisfactory after 4 years. Baird got into it with me, but Softy said it was "a great call by a passionate Husky Fan."

    Among my points were the facts that you just laid out. Why is this guy given credit for having the "courage" to fire his defensive staff, while not getting the blame for hiring them in the first place? It's friggin' lunacy.
    When Holt was hired to round out the "best staff in America", some of us were callled coog/duck trolls for suggesting that maybe Pete Carroll, not Holt was the genius of the SC defense. So Sark got major kudos from 'stealing" Holt from SC. Then yes, he also got majo kudos for firing him. Doogs have short memories. That's an identifiable trait of a doog. They hate on Neuheisal but love Sark. Sark does many of the things they say they hated about Neuhiesal.
  • ACSlaterDawgACSlaterDawg Member Posts: 200
    Passion said:

    think about it... in 2009 Sark is claiming to have the best staff in the nation and the best defensive coordinator in the country. three years later he's surrendering 67 points and 777 yards in a bowl game and firing said coordinator. and the masses give him credit for making the tough decisions... it's bizarro world

    In 2012 I telephone KJR and laid out why I Sark has not reached a level that is satisfactory after 4 years. Baird got into it with me, but Softy said it was "a great call by a passionate Husky Fan."

    Among my points were the facts that you just laid out. Why is this guy given credit for having the "courage" to fire his defensive staff, while not getting the blame for hiring them in the first place? It's friggin' lunacy.
    I remember that...you were a klassy kaller.

    The worst of the 3 is Millen who kept saying..."I want to see Sark in that stadium next year," and downplaying any concern about Sark.
  • PassionPassion Member Posts: 4,622

    Passion said:

    think about it... in 2009 Sark is claiming to have the best staff in the nation and the best defensive coordinator in the country. three years later he's surrendering 67 points and 777 yards in a bowl game and firing said coordinator. and the masses give him credit for making the tough decisions... it's bizarro world

    In 2012 I telephone KJR and laid out why I Sark has not reached a level that is satisfactory after 4 years. Baird got into it with me, but Softy said it was "a great call by a passionate Husky Fan."

    Among my points were the facts that you just laid out. Why is this guy given credit for having the "courage" to fire his defensive staff, while not getting the blame for hiring them in the first place? It's friggin' lunacy.
    I remember that...you were a klassy kaller.

    The worst of the 3 is Millen who kept saying..."I want to see Sark in that stadium next year," and downplaying any concern about Sark.
    Thanks.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Passion said:

    Passion said:

    think about it... in 2009 Sark is claiming to have the best staff in the nation and the best defensive coordinator in the country. three years later he's surrendering 67 points and 777 yards in a bowl game and firing said coordinator. and the masses give him credit for making the tough decisions... it's bizarro world

    In 2012 I telephone KJR and laid out why I Sark has not reached a level that is satisfactory after 4 years. Baird got into it with me, but Softy said it was "a great call by a passionate Husky Fan."

    Among my points were the facts that you just laid out. Why is this guy given credit for having the "courage" to fire his defensive staff, while not getting the blame for hiring them in the first place? It's friggin' lunacy.
    I remember that...you were a klassy kaller.

    The worst of the 3 is Millen who kept saying..."I want to see Sark in that stadium next year," and downplaying any concern about Sark.
    Thanks.
    +1 Passion has always been my favorite caller. Always well thought out and classy.

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