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Tunmise Adeleye, 2021 4* DE, Katy, TX, (Offered 5/21/19)
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The wasting resources argument comes from the understanding that our coaches are not willing to recruit as hard as other staffs. I don't think anyone in this thread is actually disagreeing that much.whuggy said:
This is a really good post. I don't buy the wasting resources argument. Jesus Christ The fucking Beavers just got a high 3 star committ out of Texas. Are you really gonna tell me they have more pull than UW? We are being outworked. Full stop.chuck said:
I dont buy the idea that resources, time or budget constraints are an issue. UW is offering less than 100 kids. Other schools offer 200 or more and still seem to have time to 1) occasionally reel in someone from an unlikely locale, 2) dedicate adequate time to the prospects within their normal footprint.FremontTroll said:
But we have limited time and budget. These are real constraints- especially since CP doesn't put as much emphasis on recruiting as Oregon so our staff doesn't put as much time in recruiting as the competition.chuck said:I dont mind the Texas offers. They should be trying to gauge interest there. It doesn't have to come at the expense of locals and others in the traditional footprint.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW.
Every hour spent in Texas is an hour not spent in Washington or California. Its not a stretch to say that is a factor in many elite recruits eliminating UW early this cycle and many other recruits saying they haven't been hearing from us or Oregon is recruiting them the hardest.
We debated this at length when CP first came here. Even back then when
1. we needed to stretch ourselves further to get recruits because we weren't beating USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, or even Cal/ASU consistently; and
2. we had coaches with actual ties to Texas (Pease and Choate)
it STILL wasn't worth it to spend resources in Texas. We signed 3 guys total in 2015/2016 then 1 total in the last three years after Pease and Choate left and we partially abandoned Texas. And none of those guys had Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, LSU, or Alabama offers like a lot of the guys we are going after now. The biggest get was Levi and his reported finalists were Baylor and Michigan although I'm not sure how hard Michigan went after him. We also lost guys to lesser local schools like Xavier Castille the WR to SMU.
The SEC, B1G, et al are recruiting the hell out of the west in spite of their own regions producing more than enough talent to supply their programs.
Should UW or any other high tier program in the west sit back and do nothing different while eastern schools raid our recruiting areas? I dont think so. I think the forward thinking plan is to respond in kind, even if it doesn't pay dividends right away. Win a big game or two and the groundwork that's been laid will pay off.
As I said, I think the mistake is what's going on in state and with other interested prospects in the west. It's not a matter of resources though. It's a matter of attitude and philosophy, and Petersen's is puzzling. -
I don’t think recruiting Texas is worthwhile, but this post made me think and care. You make a good point.chuck said:
I dont buy the idea that resources, time or budget constraints are an issue. UW is offering less than 100 kids. Other schools offer 200 or more and still seem to have time to 1) occasionally reel in someone from an unlikely locale, 2) dedicate adequate time to the prospects within their normal footprint.FremontTroll said:
But we have limited time and budget. These are real constraints- especially since CP doesn't put as much emphasis on recruiting as Oregon so our staff doesn't put as much time in recruiting as the competition.chuck said:I dont mind the Texas offers. They should be trying to gauge interest there. It doesn't have to come at the expense of locals and others in the traditional footprint.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW.
Every hour spent in Texas is an hour not spent in Washington or California. Its not a stretch to say that is a factor in many elite recruits eliminating UW early this cycle and many other recruits saying they haven't been hearing from us or Oregon is recruiting them the hardest.
We debated this at length when CP first came here. Even back then when
1. we needed to stretch ourselves further to get recruits because we weren't beating USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, or even Cal/ASU consistently; and
2. we had coaches with actual ties to Texas (Pease and Choate)
it STILL wasn't worth it to spend resources in Texas. We signed 3 guys total in 2015/2016 then 1 total in the last three years after Pease and Choate left and we partially abandoned Texas. And none of those guys had Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, LSU, or Alabama offers like a lot of the guys we are going after now. The biggest get was Levi and his reported finalists were Baylor and Michigan although I'm not sure how hard Michigan went after him. We also lost guys to lesser local schools like Xavier Castille the WR to SMU.
The SEC, B1G, et al are recruiting the hell out of the west in spite of their own regions producing more than enough talent to supply their programs.
Should UW or any other high tier program in the west sit back and do nothing different while eastern schools raid our recruiting areas? I dont think so. I think the forward thinking plan is to respond in kind, even if it doesn't pay dividends right away. Win a big game or two and the groundwork that's been laid will pay off.
As I said, I think the mistake is what's going on in state and with other interested prospects in the west. It's not a matter of resources though. It's a matter of attitude and philosophy, and Petersen's is puzzling. -
Money isn’t wasted if they give a fuck and put forth max effort, that’s what my sources (HH) are saying.
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I'm going to backpedal a bit on my working hard statement. I think our staff puts in comparable hours. I just think other staffs probably allocate more of their hours to actual communication with recruits while our hours are devoted more to evaluation rather than communication. I can easily imagine high school kids would perceive other staffs recruit them harder because there is more of an interaction approach.Neighbor2972 said:
The wasting resources argument comes from the understanding that our coaches are not willing to recruit as hard as other staffs. I don't think anyone in this thread is actually disagreeing that much.whuggy said:
This is a really good post. I don't buy the wasting resources argument. Jesus Christ The fucking Beavers just got a high 3 star committ out of Texas. Are you really gonna tell me they have more pull than UW? We are being outworked. Full stop.chuck said:
I dont buy the idea that resources, time or budget constraints are an issue. UW is offering less than 100 kids. Other schools offer 200 or more and still seem to have time to 1) occasionally reel in someone from an unlikely locale, 2) dedicate adequate time to the prospects within their normal footprint.FremontTroll said:
But we have limited time and budget. These are real constraints- especially since CP doesn't put as much emphasis on recruiting as Oregon so our staff doesn't put as much time in recruiting as the competition.chuck said:I dont mind the Texas offers. They should be trying to gauge interest there. It doesn't have to come at the expense of locals and others in the traditional footprint.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW.
Every hour spent in Texas is an hour not spent in Washington or California. Its not a stretch to say that is a factor in many elite recruits eliminating UW early this cycle and many other recruits saying they haven't been hearing from us or Oregon is recruiting them the hardest.
We debated this at length when CP first came here. Even back then when
1. we needed to stretch ourselves further to get recruits because we weren't beating USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, or even Cal/ASU consistently; and
2. we had coaches with actual ties to Texas (Pease and Choate)
it STILL wasn't worth it to spend resources in Texas. We signed 3 guys total in 2015/2016 then 1 total in the last three years after Pease and Choate left and we partially abandoned Texas. And none of those guys had Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, LSU, or Alabama offers like a lot of the guys we are going after now. The biggest get was Levi and his reported finalists were Baylor and Michigan although I'm not sure how hard Michigan went after him. We also lost guys to lesser local schools like Xavier Castille the WR to SMU.
The SEC, B1G, et al are recruiting the hell out of the west in spite of their own regions producing more than enough talent to supply their programs.
Should UW or any other high tier program in the west sit back and do nothing different while eastern schools raid our recruiting areas? I dont think so. I think the forward thinking plan is to respond in kind, even if it doesn't pay dividends right away. Win a big game or two and the groundwork that's been laid will pay off.
As I said, I think the mistake is what's going on in state and with other interested prospects in the west. It's not a matter of resources though. It's a matter of attitude and philosophy, and Petersen's is puzzling. -
No i went to LWCallMeBigErn said:
Are you a Juanita fuck?backthepack said:
Please self-immolate, thanks!CallMeBigErn said:More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
And fuck LW alums.
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It’s now called Emerson. Kind of your speed though lots of kids with drug habits already!dirtysouwfdawg said:
He went to BEST, class of ‘18.CallMeBigErn said:
Are you a Juanita fuck?backthepack said:
Please self-immolate, thanks!CallMeBigErn said:More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
And fuck LW alums.
EDIT: Fuck, guess they closed.
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I disagree with the premise that we should offer someone just because they're local. I'm glad that Pete goes after the guys he wants, not what the Seattle fan-base wants. Do you really think Pete has some sort of blind spot for local guys? That's crazy talk. I'm sure that he's crystal clear with local coaches and players about their status. I want to see the sources that say it's gone off the rails. I think it's entirely made up and overblown forum chatter. Yes, the in-state class appears talented, but there's so much more to this shit than what us idiots see on Hudl. We literally know nothing about the criteria the coaches are using in their offers. Sure, it's fine and dandy when the local guy becomes a hometown hero, but that's just feel-good hometown-pride bullshit. Does it really matter where they come from in the long run? Some of, if not most of the greatest Huskies are from out of state. The greatest player in American football history, Ser Gregory Gaines VIII, is from California. Pete uses a criteria that clearly isn't location-based. He recruits guys that he can develop, and the NFL draft results reflect that. He owes the fans victories, not hometown feel-good offers. To this point, I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to Pete because every single class has been better than the previous one. The talent in this program is increasing every single year and now we're actually going to have quarterbacks. This program is still clearly on the upswing. If you browsed this forum as your only source, you'd have a hard time believing it. I guess it's easier to have something to talk about when there's something to bitch about, therefore we create something to bitch about. That's human nature, I suppose. Just win. If the players are from Neptune, I don't give a fuck. Just win.FremontTroll said:
Yes, we cold shoulder anyone that might require a little coddling or want a little extra attention.CallMeBigErn said:
I still don't understand where this narrative that we're cold shouldering and pissing on local recruits is coming from. We cold shoulder most recruits. We're extremely selective. Only Furd offers less guys than UW. If you're not a fit, you're not going to get an offer. It doesn't matter where you're from. We shouldn't be throwing out offers just because they're from Enumscratch. What is the basis behind this assumption that we don't give a shit about the local guys? Gee Scott and DJ Rogers? That's some extreme extrapolation if we're basing that assumption on 2 guys. I need more proof. It seems like an HH meme that has snowballed into something that it isn't. Again, standard fare.chuck said:I dont mind the Texas offers. They should be trying to gauge interest there. It doesn't have to come at the expense of locals and others in the traditional footprint.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW.
Its just that it hurts us most with the local recruits because 1. those are our highest percentage targets; 2. the program should be profiting from the best reputation among local players that we've had in decades; 3. those recruits are most visible with local media, fans, and other recruits.
Oh, I almost forgot. It's May. -
So there's 3 fags in here that went to LW? That's kind of cool, I guess.backthepack said:
No i went to LWCallMeBigErn said:
Are you a Juanita fuck?backthepack said:
Please self-immolate, thanks!CallMeBigErn said:More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
And fuck LW alums. -
So we can naturally confirm that you're a shit athlete.backthepack said:
No i went to LWCallMeBigErn said:
Are you a Juanita fuck?backthepack said:
Please self-immolate, thanks!CallMeBigErn said:More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
And fuck LW alums.
Go Kangs! -
Uhhhh, clearly you've never heard of Chris Izbicki.GreenRiverGatorz said:
So we can naturally confirm that you're a shit athlete.backthepack said:
No i went to LWCallMeBigErn said:
Are you a Juanita fuck?backthepack said:
Please self-immolate, thanks!CallMeBigErn said:More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
And fuck LW alums.
Go Kangs!
