Tunmise Adeleye, 2021 4* DE, Katy, TX, (Offered 5/21/19)
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right skin color? check
position? check
name implies background that values academics? check
recruiting texas? yeah ... check. but still not sure why peterman and co apparently determines texas as a priority recruiting area based on their benefit/cost analysis.
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Lol. I'm sure Kwiatkowski will reel this kid in. What a complete waste of fucking time and resources.
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It looks like Malloe offered him but imagine thinking an offer from UW is "special" when it's your 21st (or whatever) offer
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The Texas thing is just fucking baffling. There is already a tried and true formula for recruiting at UW and this ain't fucking it. What a huge waste of time and resources. Not to mention the further alienation of local/west coast recruits. Breaks every fucking rule in the cost benefit analysis.
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I don't necessarily mind wading into Texas to try to build a heavier presence. But what makes it baffling is that's it's seemingly at the expense of local recruits who we're still slow playing. Recruiting isn't a zero-sum game, but Pete is making it look like one.Penace said:The Texas thing is just fucking baffling. There is already a tried and true formula for recruiting at UW and this ain't fucking it. What a huge waste of time and resources. Not to mention the further alienation of local/west coast recruits. Breaks every fucking rule in the cost benefit analysis.
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If UW is going to not recruit hard in-state then expanding recruiting reach becomes a requirement
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Yeah, because that strategy makes tons of sense.Tequilla said:If UW is going to not recruit hard in-state then expanding recruiting reach becomes a requirement
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I'll admit I'm intrigued by the 2 guys from Texarkana, just because those actually look like an inbound lead, rather than some token offer to some baller from a Dallas suburb.
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Why says you “inbound lead”?tysenallumbaugh said:I'll admit I'm intrigued by the 2 guys from Texarkana, just because those actually look like an inbound lead, rather than some token offer to some baller from a Dallas suburb.
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tejas and ass to mouth
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Mostly because it's actually East Texas, not Houston or Dallas and they're 2021 kids. It's not like we were their first (or 15th) offer though so IDK.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Why says you “inbound lead”?tysenallumbaugh said:I'll admit I'm intrigued by the 2 guys from Texarkana, just because those actually look like an inbound lead, rather than some token offer to some baller from a Dallas suburb.
I don't think we? have a shot with either kid.
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More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
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Might as well shut down the bored and just show up to the Dub Pub on signing day and see who we ended up with, am I right?CallMeBigErn said:More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
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I dont mind the Texas offers. They should be trying to gauge interest there. It doesn't have to come at the expense of locals and others in the traditional footprint.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW. -
But we have limited time and budget. These are real constraints- especially since CP doesn't put as much emphasis on recruiting as Oregon so our staff doesn't put as much time in recruiting as the competition.chuck said:I dont mind the Texas offers. They should be trying to gauge interest there. It doesn't have to come at the expense of locals and others in the traditional footprint.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW.
Every hour spent in Texas is an hour not spent in Washington or California. Its not a stretch to say that is a factor in many elite recruits eliminating UW early this cycle and many other recruits saying they haven't been hearing from us or Oregon is recruiting them the hardest.
We debated this at length when CP first came here. Even back then when
1. we needed to stretch ourselves further to get recruits because we weren't beating USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, or even Cal/ASU consistently; and
2. we had coaches with actual ties to Texas (Pease and Choate)
it STILL wasn't worth it to spend resources in Texas. We signed 3 guys total in 2015/2016 then 1 total in the last three years after Pease and Choate left and we partially abandoned Texas. And none of those guys had Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, LSU, or Alabama offers like a lot of the guys we are going after now. The biggest get was Levi and his reported finalists were Baylor and Michigan although I'm not sure how hard Michigan went after him. We also lost guys to lesser local schools like Xavier Castille the WR to SMU. -
Can he play Buck?
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This should end well.
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I only like you because we went to the same HS. Granted 20 yrs before me but whatevs.CallMeBigErn said:More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
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I dont buy the idea that resources, time or budget constraints are an issue. UW is offering less than 100 kids. Other schools offer 200 or more and still seem to have time to 1) occasionally reel in someone from an unlikely locale, 2) dedicate adequate time to the prospects within their normal footprint.FremontTroll said:
But we have limited time and budget. These are real constraints- especially since CP doesn't put as much emphasis on recruiting as Oregon so our staff doesn't put as much time in recruiting as the competition.chuck said:I dont mind the Texas offers. They should be trying to gauge interest there. It doesn't have to come at the expense of locals and others in the traditional footprint.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW.
Every hour spent in Texas is an hour not spent in Washington or California. Its not a stretch to say that is a factor in many elite recruits eliminating UW early this cycle and many other recruits saying they haven't been hearing from us or Oregon is recruiting them the hardest.
We debated this at length when CP first came here. Even back then when
1. we needed to stretch ourselves further to get recruits because we weren't beating USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, or even Cal/ASU consistently; and
2. we had coaches with actual ties to Texas (Pease and Choate)
it STILL wasn't worth it to spend resources in Texas. We signed 3 guys total in 2015/2016 then 1 total in the last three years after Pease and Choate left and we partially abandoned Texas. And none of those guys had Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, LSU, or Alabama offers like a lot of the guys we are going after now. The biggest get was Levi and his reported finalists were Baylor and Michigan although I'm not sure how hard Michigan went after him. We also lost guys to lesser local schools like Xavier Castille the WR to SMU.
The SEC, B1G, et al are recruiting the hell out of the west in spite of their own regions producing more than enough talent to supply their programs.
Should UW or any other high tier program in the west sit back and do nothing different while eastern schools raid our recruiting areas? I dont think so. I think the forward thinking plan is to respond in kind, even if it doesn't pay dividends right away. Win a big game or two and the groundwork that's been laid will pay off.
As I said, I think the mistake is what's going on in state and with other interested prospects in the west. It's not a matter of resources though. It's a matter of attitude and philosophy, and Petersen's is puzzling. -
You'd like me in person. I guarantee it.dirtysouwfdawg said:
I only like you because we went to the same HS. Granted 20 yrs before me but whatevs.CallMeBigErn said:More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
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I still don't understand where this narrative that we're cold shouldering and pissing on local recruits is coming from. We cold shoulder most recruits. We're extremely selective. Only Furd offers less guys than UW. If you're not a fit, you're not going to get an offer. It doesn't matter where you're from. We shouldn't be throwing out offers just because they're from Enumscratch. What is the basis behind this assumption that we don't give a shit about the local guys? Gee Scott and DJ Rogers? That's some extreme extrapolation if we're basing that assumption on 2 guys. I need more proof. It seems like an HH meme that has snowballed into something that it isn't. Again, standard fare.chuck said:I dont mind the Texas offers. They should be trying to gauge interest there. It doesn't have to come at the expense of locals and others in the traditional footprint.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW. -
I get your perspective and I would love for UW's brand and recruiting to go national. We have the resources to do it but it would require a total refocusing of our recruiting approach to be a lot more aggressive.chuck said:
I dont buy the idea that resources, time or budget constraints are an issue. UW is offering less than 100 kids. Other schools offer 200 or more and still seem to have time to 1) occasionally reel in someone from an unlikely locale, 2) dedicate adequate time to the prospects within their normal footprint.FremontTroll said:
But we have limited time and budget. These are real constraints- especially since CP doesn't put as much emphasis on recruiting as Oregon so our staff doesn't put as much time in recruiting as the competition.chuck said:I dont mind the Texas offers. They should be trying to gauge interest there. It doesn't have to come at the expense of locals and others in the traditional footprint.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW.
Every hour spent in Texas is an hour not spent in Washington or California. Its not a stretch to say that is a factor in many elite recruits eliminating UW early this cycle and many other recruits saying they haven't been hearing from us or Oregon is recruiting them the hardest.
We debated this at length when CP first came here. Even back then when
1. we needed to stretch ourselves further to get recruits because we weren't beating USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, or even Cal/ASU consistently; and
2. we had coaches with actual ties to Texas (Pease and Choate)
it STILL wasn't worth it to spend resources in Texas. We signed 3 guys total in 2015/2016 then 1 total in the last three years after Pease and Choate left and we partially abandoned Texas. And none of those guys had Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, LSU, or Alabama offers like a lot of the guys we are going after now. The biggest get was Levi and his reported finalists were Baylor and Michigan although I'm not sure how hard Michigan went after him. We also lost guys to lesser local schools like Xavier Castille the WR to SMU.
The SEC, B1G, et al are recruiting the hell out of the west in spite of their own regions producing more than enough talent to supply their programs.
Should UW or any other high tier program in the west sit back and do nothing different while eastern schools raid our recruiting areas? I dont think so. I think the forward thinking plan is to respond in kind, even if it doesn't pay dividends right away. Win a big game or two and the groundwork that's been laid will pay off.
As I said, I think the mistake is what's going on in state and with other interested prospects in the west. It's not a matter of resources though. It's a matter of attitude and philosophy, and Petersen's is puzzling.
As is we are wasting time that could be spent in WA AND hurting our local reputation (because why are kids in Texas getting offers?)
One would think we have more time than others considering our focused approach but I think its the opposite. Part of our strategy is not to put as much of our limited time into recruiting. Let kids go when we fall behind in a race. Don't go after kid that might be a little harder to recruit. -
Yes, we cold shoulder anyone that might require a little coddling or want a little extra attention.CallMeBigErn said:
I still don't understand where this narrative that we're cold shouldering and pissing on local recruits is coming from. We cold shoulder most recruits. We're extremely selective. Only Furd offers less guys than UW. If you're not a fit, you're not going to get an offer. It doesn't matter where you're from. We shouldn't be throwing out offers just because they're from Enumscratch. What is the basis behind this assumption that we don't give a shit about the local guys? Gee Scott and DJ Rogers? That's some extreme extrapolation if we're basing that assumption on 2 guys. I need more proof. It seems like an HH meme that has snowballed into something that it isn't. Again, standard fare.chuck said:I dont mind the Texas offers. They should be trying to gauge interest there. It doesn't have to come at the expense of locals and others in the traditional footprint.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW.
Its just that it hurts us most with the local recruits because 1. those are our highest percentage targets; 2. the program should be profiting from the best reputation among local players that we've had in decades; 3. those recruits are most visible with local media, fans, and other recruits. -
I’m sure most of us would get along in the real world. Except for PGOS, I’d probably kick him in the nutz.CallMeBigErn said:
You'd like me in person. I guarantee it.dirtysouwfdawg said:
I only like you because we went to the same HS. Granted 20 yrs before me but whatevs.CallMeBigErn said:More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
Hopefully we go to a bowl game closer to the souwf so my pour ass can go to the festivities and show my ass. -
Please self-immolate, thanks!CallMeBigErn said:More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
And fuck LW alums. -
Thischuck said:
I dont buy the idea that resources, time or budget constraints are an issue. UW is offering less than 100 kids. Other schools offer 200 or more and still seem to have time to 1) occasionally reel in someone from an unlikely locale, 2) dedicate adequate time to the prospects within their normal footprint.FremontTroll said:
But we have limited time and budget. These are real constraints- especially since CP doesn't put as much emphasis on recruiting as Oregon so our staff doesn't put as much time in recruiting as the competition.chuck said:I dont mind the Texas offers. They should be trying to gauge interest there. It doesn't have to come at the expense of locals and others in the traditional footprint.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW.
Every hour spent in Texas is an hour not spent in Washington or California. Its not a stretch to say that is a factor in many elite recruits eliminating UW early this cycle and many other recruits saying they haven't been hearing from us or Oregon is recruiting them the hardest.
We debated this at length when CP first came here. Even back then when
1. we needed to stretch ourselves further to get recruits because we weren't beating USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, or even Cal/ASU consistently; and
2. we had coaches with actual ties to Texas (Pease and Choate)
it STILL wasn't worth it to spend resources in Texas. We signed 3 guys total in 2015/2016 then 1 total in the last three years after Pease and Choate left and we partially abandoned Texas. And none of those guys had Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, LSU, or Alabama offers like a lot of the guys we are going after now. The biggest get was Levi and his reported finalists were Baylor and Michigan although I'm not sure how hard Michigan went after him. We also lost guys to lesser local schools like Xavier Castille the WR to SMU.
The SEC, B1G, et al are recruiting the hell out of the west in spite of their own regions producing more than enough talent to supply their programs.
Should UW or any other high tier program in the west sit back and do nothing different while eastern schools raid our recruiting areas? I dont think so. I think the forward thinking plan is to respond in kind, even if it doesn't pay dividends right away. Win a big game or two and the groundwork that's been laid will pay off.
As I said, I think the mistake is what's going on in state and with other interested prospects in the west. It's not a matter of resources though. It's a matter of attitude and philosophy, and Petersen's is puzzling. -
Are you a Juanita fuck?backthepack said:
Please self-immolate, thanks!CallMeBigErn said:More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
And fuck LW alums. -
He went to BEST, class of ‘18.CallMeBigErn said:
Are you a Juanita fuck?backthepack said:
Please self-immolate, thanks!CallMeBigErn said:More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
And fuck LW alums.
EDIT: Fuck, guess they closed.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BEST_High_School_(Kirkland,_Washington) -
This is a really good post. I don't buy the wasting resources argument. Jesus Christ the fucking Beavers just got a high 3 star committ out of Texas. Are you really gonna tell me they have more pull than UW? We are being outworked. Full stop.chuck said:
I dont buy the idea that resources, time or budget constraints are an issue. UW is offering less than 100 kids. Other schools offer 200 or more and still seem to have time to 1) occasionally reel in someone from an unlikely locale, 2) dedicate adequate time to the prospects within their normal footprint.FremontTroll said:
But we have limited time and budget. These are real constraints- especially since CP doesn't put as much emphasis on recruiting as Oregon so our staff doesn't put as much time in recruiting as the competition.chuck said:I dont mind the Texas offers. They should be trying to gauge interest there. It doesn't have to come at the expense of locals and others in the traditional footprint.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW.
Every hour spent in Texas is an hour not spent in Washington or California. Its not a stretch to say that is a factor in many elite recruits eliminating UW early this cycle and many other recruits saying they haven't been hearing from us or Oregon is recruiting them the hardest.
We debated this at length when CP first came here. Even back then when
1. we needed to stretch ourselves further to get recruits because we weren't beating USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, or even Cal/ASU consistently; and
2. we had coaches with actual ties to Texas (Pease and Choate)
it STILL wasn't worth it to spend resources in Texas. We signed 3 guys total in 2015/2016 then 1 total in the last three years after Pease and Choate left and we partially abandoned Texas. And none of those guys had Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, LSU, or Alabama offers like a lot of the guys we are going after now. The biggest get was Levi and his reported finalists were Baylor and Michigan although I'm not sure how hard Michigan went after him. We also lost guys to lesser local schools like Xavier Castille the WR to SMU.
The SEC, B1G, et al are recruiting the hell out of the west in spite of their own regions producing more than enough talent to supply their programs.
Should UW or any other high tier program in the west sit back and do nothing different while eastern schools raid our recruiting areas? I dont think so. I think the forward thinking plan is to respond in kind, even if it doesn't pay dividends right away. Win a big game or two and the groundwork that's been laid will pay off.
As I said, I think the mistake is what's going on in state and with other interested prospects in the west. It's not a matter of resources though. It's a matter of attitude and philosophy, and Petersen's is puzzling.
