right skin color? check position? check name implies background that values academics? check recruiting texas? yeah ... check. but still not sure why peterman and co apparently determines texas as a priority recruiting area based on their benefit/cost analysis.
The Texas thing is just fucking baffling. There is already a tried and true formula for recruiting at UW and this ain't fucking it. What a huge waste of time and resources. Not to mention the further alienation of local/west coast recruits. Breaks every fucking rule in the cost benefit analysis.
The Texas thing is just fucking baffling. There is already a tried and true formula for recruiting at UW and this ain't fucking it. What a huge waste of time and resources. Not to mention the further alienation of local/west coast recruits. Breaks every fucking rule in the cost benefit analysis.
I don't necessarily mind wading into Texas to try to build a heavier presence. But what makes it baffling is that's it's seemingly at the expense of local recruits who we're still slow playing. Recruiting isn't a zero-sum game, but Pete is making it look like one.
And now I'm going to go fuck off for giving a shit about recruiting optics in May.
I'll admit I'm intrigued by the 2 guys from Texarkana, just because those actually look like an inbound lead, rather than some token offer to some baller from a Dallas suburb.
I'll admit I'm intrigued by the 2 guys from Texarkana, just because those actually look like an inbound lead, rather than some token offer to some baller from a Dallas suburb.
I'll admit I'm intrigued by the 2 guys from Texarkana, just because those actually look like an inbound lead, rather than some token offer to some baller from a Dallas suburb.
Why says you “inbound lead”?
Mostly because it's actually East Texas, not Houston or Dallas and they're 2021 kids. It's not like we were their first (or 15th) offer though so IDK.
More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
Might as well shut down the bored and just show up to the Dub Pub on signing day and see who we ended up with, am I right?
I dont mind the Texas offers. They should be trying to gauge interest there. It doesn't have to come at the expense of locals and others in the traditional footprint.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW.
I dont mind the Texas offers. They should be trying to gauge interest there. It doesn't have to come at the expense of locals and others in the traditional footprint.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW.
But we have limited time and budget. These are real constraints- especially since CP doesn't put as much emphasis on recruiting as Oregon so our staff doesn't put as much time in recruiting as the competition.
Every hour spent in Texas is an hour not spent in Washington or California. Its not a stretch to say that is a factor in many elite recruits eliminating UW early this cycle and many other recruits saying they haven't been hearing from us or Oregon is recruiting them the hardest.
We debated this at length when CP first came here. Even back then when
1. we needed to stretch ourselves further to get recruits because we weren't beating USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, or even Cal/ASU consistently; and 2. we had coaches with actual ties to Texas (Pease and Choate)
it STILL wasn't worth it to spend resources in Texas. We signed 3 guys total in 2015/2016 then 1 total in the last three years after Pease and Choate left and we partially abandoned Texas. And none of those guys had Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, LSU, or Alabama offers like a lot of the guys we are going after now. The biggest get was Levi and his reported finalists were Baylor and Michigan although I'm not sure how hard Michigan went after him. We also lost guys to lesser local schools like Xavier Castille the WR to SMU.
More whining about recruiting in May with zero inside knowledge about what's going on. For a 2021 OFFER, no less. I pretty much hate most of you. Some of you are cool doe.
I only like you because we went to the same HS. Granted 20 yrs before me but whatevs.
I dont mind the Texas offers. They should be trying to gauge interest there. It doesn't have to come at the expense of locals and others in the traditional footprint.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW.
But we have limited time and budget. These are real constraints- especially since CP doesn't put as much emphasis on recruiting as Oregon so our staff doesn't put as much time in recruiting as the competition.
Every hour spent in Texas is an hour not spent in Washington or California. Its not a stretch to say that is a factor in many elite recruits eliminating UW early this cycle and many other recruits saying they haven't been hearing from us or Oregon is recruiting them the hardest.
We debated this at length when CP first came here. Even back then when
1. we needed to stretch ourselves further to get recruits because we weren't beating USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, or even Cal/ASU consistently; and 2. we had coaches with actual ties to Texas (Pease and Choate)
it STILL wasn't worth it to spend resources in Texas. We signed 3 guys total in 2015/2016 then 1 total in the last three years after Pease and Choate left and we partially abandoned Texas. And none of those guys had Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, LSU, or Alabama offers like a lot of the guys we are going after now. The biggest get was Levi and his reported finalists were Baylor and Michigan although I'm not sure how hard Michigan went after him. We also lost guys to lesser local schools like Xavier Castille the WR to SMU.
I dont buy the idea that resources, time or budget constraints are an issue. UW is offering less than 100 kids. Other schools offer 200 or more and still seem to have time to 1) occasionally reel in someone from an unlikely locale, 2) dedicate adequate time to the prospects within their normal footprint.
The SEC, B1G, et al are recruiting the hell out of the west in spite of their own regions producing more than enough talent to supply their programs.
Should UW or any other high tier program in the west sit back and do nothing different while eastern schools raid our recruiting areas? I dont think so. I think the forward thinking plan is to respond in kind, even if it doesn't pay dividends right away. Win a big game or two and the groundwork that's been laid will pay off.
As I said, I think the mistake is what's going on in state and with other interested prospects in the west. It's not a matter of resources though. It's a matter of attitude and philosophy, and Petersen's is puzzling.
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position? check
name implies background that values academics? check
recruiting texas? yeah ... check. but still not sure why peterman and co apparently determines texas as a priority recruiting area based on their benefit/cost analysis.
o-kay.
And now I'm going to go fuck off for giving a shit about recruiting optics in May.
I don't think we? have a shot with either kid.
That's where the weirdness comes in though. I can't understand the slow playing and cold shoulder toward so many locals. I'm tired of all the bitching about it but I dont know an answer to shut down the bitching either. It really looks bad for UW.
Every hour spent in Texas is an hour not spent in Washington or California. Its not a stretch to say that is a factor in many elite recruits eliminating UW early this cycle and many other recruits saying they haven't been hearing from us or Oregon is recruiting them the hardest.
We debated this at length when CP first came here. Even back then when
1. we needed to stretch ourselves further to get recruits because we weren't beating USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, or even Cal/ASU consistently; and
2. we had coaches with actual ties to Texas (Pease and Choate)
it STILL wasn't worth it to spend resources in Texas. We signed 3 guys total in 2015/2016 then 1 total in the last three years after Pease and Choate left and we partially abandoned Texas. And none of those guys had Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, LSU, or Alabama offers like a lot of the guys we are going after now. The biggest get was Levi and his reported finalists were Baylor and Michigan although I'm not sure how hard Michigan went after him. We also lost guys to lesser local schools like Xavier Castille the WR to SMU.
The SEC, B1G, et al are recruiting the hell out of the west in spite of their own regions producing more than enough talent to supply their programs.
Should UW or any other high tier program in the west sit back and do nothing different while eastern schools raid our recruiting areas? I dont think so. I think the forward thinking plan is to respond in kind, even if it doesn't pay dividends right away. Win a big game or two and the groundwork that's been laid will pay off.
As I said, I think the mistake is what's going on in state and with other interested prospects in the west. It's not a matter of resources though. It's a matter of attitude and philosophy, and Petersen's is puzzling.