You would never know that by the takes on this board.
I agree... with last year.
Aren’t we in a what have you done for me lately society? The suck until they don’t?
Maybe that’s just how I think because I’ve spent the last 15+ yrs in sales management.
I’m not pleased thus far and I think there’s evidence to back up this years current state of recruitment. Missing on a kid that shoulda been a slam dunk, we’ve missed making top 25’s for kids who should be highly interested, and kids that once were intrigued are no longer. My distaste is not race related rather strategy related and whom the strategy appeals to and how we are too stubborn to alter the strategy to appeal to the kids who will get us to the next level, the elite level.
LIPO, sure but with a frown on my face and distain in my tone.
And I’m done on this.
The thing that stuck out to me in this post are the words "elite level". I think by far the most interesting discussion on this board is does UW reallly want to be elite level? I'm far from convinced that upper leadership wants a football program to compete with Clemson and Alabama. The president doesn't strike me as a football fan. I question Jen's committment to big time scheduling. I question the athletic department's competency and willingness to effectively promote the team to the fanbase. I question whether the fanbase has the inborn love for football that championship fanbases have. I'm very doubtful that Pete wants to recruit the type of athlete that gets you to elite level as evidenced by his overall philosophy and retention of some pretty weak recruiters on staff. I honestly think everyone involved in the program is happy to win 10 games a year and compete for PAC 12 crowns.
I definitely think the program can improve in a few respects, but I really disagree with your last sentence. Pete is too damn competitive to just resign himself to being the tallest midget on the west coast. Pete took a team that wasnt even in the top 25 talent wise to the fucking playoff, and one unit was easily championship caliber (defense)
Recruiting is trending way, way up since then. We need to LIPO a bit more. I personally think at the current trajectory UW will win a national title in the next 10 years.
Have you looked at Clemson's latest recruiting class? We are not even in the same universe to compete with that kind of haul. Just imagine them leveling up from that for the next two or 3 classes. I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that attracts that level of talent to UW. Just being realistic. If you see something about our program that compares to that level of committment that Clemson has I'm willing to be educated.
We gotta win a NC or at the very least a playoff game to join that recruiting universe. This has been rehashed, continually, perpetually, ad nauseam, over and over again, but Clemson was right where we are now, recruiting-wise, until they won a playoff game (and then next year a NC). UW does not have enough built-in advantages (location, tradition, etc) to recruit at that level right now and we don't give out bags or pander to elite recruits. Whether you like that or not, that's just how it is. Winning is the only thing that will push UW to that next level of recruiting. We have to have that breakthrough win and then the recruiting dominoes will fall. It could very well happen this year. Put me down for UW 31 - Alabama 2.
This is boring doog narrative bullshit. Winning isn't the only thing. What the fuck has Oregon won lately? Oh right, the prestigious red box bowl.
How about improving the messaging, branding, and marketing? #swooshlife #wareagle
How about not inviting elite recruits for games against North Dakota?
How about dumping coaches that don't even bother contacting elite recruits in the first place?
How about leveraging local talent by developing relationships early so that even if you haven't officially offered, the recruits talk about the coaching staff as involved and connected to all the local power programs?
How about not wasting resources trying to recruit diamonds in the rough out of Texas and just owning the shit out of California and the West coast first?
How about simplyfying an overly complex offense, loosening the fuck up as a program, having some fun, and not choking away a meaningful & winnable game because everything is based around the fear of fucking up?
No shit winning helps recruiting, so do a lot of other things that we have improved and can continue to improve.
GTFO and go push this shit back at Doogman or go circle jerk with J over "recruiting doesn't matter".
You clearly have it all figured out and know what's going on behind the scenes. Why are you wasting your incredible talent here? Go write a letter.
LEAVE! You artifact of the Ty era.
Do the cocksuckers over at doogman a favor and drink bleach while you are at it.
You would never know that by the takes on this board.
I agree... with last year.
Aren’t we in a what have you done for me lately society? The suck until they don’t?
Maybe that’s just how I think because I’ve spent the last 15+ yrs in sales management.
I’m not pleased thus far and I think there’s evidence to back up this years current state of recruitment. Missing on a kid that shoulda been a slam dunk, we’ve missed making top 25’s for kids who should be highly interested, and kids that once were intrigued are no longer. My distaste is not race related rather strategy related and whom the strategy appeals to and how we are too stubborn to alter the strategy to appeal to the kids who will get us to the next level, the elite level.
LIPO, sure but with a frown on my face and distain in my tone.
And I’m done on this.
The thing that stuck out to me in this post are the words "elite level". I think by far the most interesting discussion on this board is does UW reallly want to be elite level? I'm far from convinced that upper leadership wants a football program to compete with Clemson and Alabama. The president doesn't strike me as a football fan. I question Jen's committment to big time scheduling. I question the athletic department's competency and willingness to effectively promote the team to the fanbase. I question whether the fanbase has the inborn love for football that championship fanbases have. I'm very doubtful that Pete wants to recruit the type of athlete that gets you to elite level as evidenced by his overall philosophy and retention of some pretty weak recruiters on staff. I honestly think everyone involved in the program is happy to win 10 games a year and compete for PAC 12 crowns.
I definitely think the program can improve in a few respects, but I really disagree with your last sentence. Pete is too damn competitive to just resign himself to being the tallest midget on the west coast. Pete took a team that wasnt even in the top 25 talent wise to the fucking playoff, and one unit was easily championship caliber (defense)
Recruiting is trending way, way up since then. We need to LIPO a bit more. I personally think at the current trajectory UW will win a national title in the next 10 years.
Have you looked at Clemson's latest recruiting class? We are not even in the same universe to compete with that kind of haul. Just imagine them leveling up from that for the next two or 3 classes. I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that attracts that level of talent to UW. Just being realistic. If you see something about our program that compares to that level of committment that Clemson has I'm willing to be educated.
We gotta win a NC or at the very least a playoff game to join that recruiting universe. This has been rehashed, continually, perpetually, ad nauseam, over and over again, but Clemson was right where we are now, recruiting-wise, until they won a playoff game (and then next year a NC). UW does not have enough built-in advantages (location, tradition, etc) to recruit at that level right now and we don't give out bags or pander to elite recruits. Whether you like that or not, that's just how it is. Winning is the only thing that will push UW to that next level of recruiting. We have to have that breakthrough win and then the recruiting dominoes will fall. It could very well happen this year. Put me down for UW 31 - Alabama 2.
This is boring doog narrative bullshit. Winning isn't the only thing. What the fuck has Oregon won lately? Oh right, the prestigious red box bowl.
How about improving the messaging, branding, and marketing? #swooshlife #wareagle
How about not inviting elite recruits for games against North Dakota?
How about dumping coaches that don't even bother contacting elite recruits in the first place?
How about leveraging local talent by developing relationships early so that even if you haven't officially offered, the recruits talk about the coaching staff as involved and connected to all the local power programs?
How about not wasting resources trying to recruit diamonds in the rough out of Texas and just owning the shit out of California and the West coast first?
How about simplyfying an overly complex offense, loosening the fuck up as a program, having some fun, and not choking away a meaningful & winnable game because everything is based around the fear of fucking up?
No shit winning helps recruiting, so do a lot of other things that we have improved and can continue to improve.
GTFO and go push this shit back at Doogman or go circle jerk with J over "recruiting doesn't matter".
You clearly have it all figured out and know what's going on behind the scenes. Why are you wasting your incredible talent here? Go write a letter.
LEAVE! You artifact of the Ty era.
Do the cocksuckers over at doogman a favor and drink bleach while you are at it.
So what I think I’m learning out of the last few weeks ...
UW/Pete apparently hates inner city people ...
UW isn't diverse enough and is elitist ...
UW has 7 of it's 10 assistant coaches that are AA or Poly ...
4 recruits so far are Caucasian so that clearly fits at least one of the narratives above ...
An AA WR coach of ours is trying to replicate the performance of a former player of his that has had high end success at both the college and pro level that's Caucasian so that's the reason for our latest recruiting giving a verbal
The amount of spin that is coming out with people trying to support their rationales and theories is mind blowing at this point.
Our recent uptick in recruiting has come just recently ..
The first classes for Pete laid the foundation for stepping up to that elite level ...
These recent and next classes lay the foundation for staying at that level and taking it up ...
The next jump for this program is having a roster full of people that have the kind of confidence and belief in them to beat those top teams ...
I hear people talk about swag a lot ... there's also a lot of undertones in those comments about what swag is ...
Swag is knowing that you're the best and taking it to the people that compete against you ...
Swag doesn't mean that you are the best ...
Swag just means that you're going to be relentless, that you are never going to stop, and that when the chips are all on the table, you're going to do everything possible to come out on top.
Way too many missing the mark right now ...
Things are not perfect and can always get better ... but that doesn't mean that you blow up the successes ... that's what your competitors want you to do.
You would never know that by the takes on this board.
I agree... with last year.
Aren’t we in a what have you done for me lately society? The suck until they don’t?
Maybe that’s just how I think because I’ve spent the last 15+ yrs in sales management.
I’m not pleased thus far and I think there’s evidence to back up this years current state of recruitment. Missing on a kid that shoulda been a slam dunk, we’ve missed making top 25’s for kids who should be highly interested, and kids that once were intrigued are no longer. My distaste is not race related rather strategy related and whom the strategy appeals to and how we are too stubborn to alter the strategy to appeal to the kids who will get us to the next level, the elite level.
LIPO, sure but with a frown on my face and distain in my tone.
And I’m done on this.
The thing that stuck out to me in this post are the words "elite level". I think by far the most interesting discussion on this board is does UW reallly want to be elite level? I'm far from convinced that upper leadership wants a football program to compete with Clemson and Alabama. The president doesn't strike me as a football fan. I question Jen's committment to big time scheduling. I question the athletic department's competency and willingness to effectively promote the team to the fanbase. I question whether the fanbase has the inborn love for football that championship fanbases have. I'm very doubtful that Pete wants to recruit the type of athlete that gets you to elite level as evidenced by his overall philosophy and retention of some pretty weak recruiters on staff. I honestly think everyone involved in the program is happy to win 10 games a year and compete for PAC 12 crowns.
I definitely think the program can improve in a few respects, but I really disagree with your last sentence. Pete is too damn competitive to just resign himself to being the tallest midget on the west coast. Pete took a team that wasnt even in the top 25 talent wise to the fucking playoff, and one unit was easily championship caliber (defense)
Recruiting is trending way, way up since then. We need to LIPO a bit more. I personally think at the current trajectory UW will win a national title in the next 10 years.
Have you looked at Clemson's latest recruiting class? We are not even in the same universe to compete with that kind of haul. Just imagine them leveling up from that for the next two or 3 classes. I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that attracts that level of talent to UW. Just being realistic. If you see something about our program that compares to that level of committment that Clemson has I'm willing to be educated.
Im not arguing UW is even half as committed as Clemson or Bama. I still think Petersen is the 3rd best coach in the country, and the more opportunities he gets the more likely a breakthrough happens.
A roster with Huard and everyone else a 4 star or legit 3 star (like Sawyer) is scary. If Huard lives up to the hype, maybe UW gets a good playoff draw and who knows?
Know what takes it from needing a good playoff draw and who knows to getting into the playoff with a legitimate chance to win the whole fucking thing?
Elite talent, especially elite talent that goes to high school in your motherfucking backyard.
No one is saying the last couple of classes weren't good enough.
What people are saying is that the current class forecast looks like a downgrade from those classes.
That's while having enough in state talent to take the class to the next level of "elite".
Yet we are getting snubbed while being the only relevant program west of the Mississippi.
I view what is happening on the West Coast as much of an indictment on the PAC 12 as it is on the UW
We don't know what this class is going to look at yet ... so it's way too early to say whether it's going to look good/bad, etc.
Everything at this point just comes off to me as massively premature
Sure, it's May, not going to even argue that. LIPO on the recruiting class.
But which of my criticisms did you think is premature? Simplifying the offense? Fixing the branding? Fixing relationships with local programs?
These are all things we've all been harping on for at least a year or more. The only person who thinks this is new sky is falling talk is the transplant from doogman that doesn't understand the DDY phases of the moon.
No one is saying the last couple of classes weren't good enough.
What people are saying is that the current class forecast looks like a downgrade from those classes.
That's while having enough in state talent to take the class to the next level of "elite".
Yet we are getting snubbed while being the only relevant program west of the Mississippi.
Thank you for once again giving meaning to the term "it's awfully warm for February."
Fucking Christ this place has amnesia.
Pretty sure I just said LIPO for this recruiting class. I'm not in the sky is falling camp as much as people would like to paint it that way to be able to dismiss it off hand.
That has nothing to do with the number of ways I pointed out that the program can improve or having to listen to dogshit about we just need to be happy because UW has natural limitations so we need to adjust our expectations downward.
No one is saying the last couple of classes weren't good enough.
What people are saying is that the current class forecast looks like a downgrade from those classes.
That's while having enough in state talent to take the class to the next level of "elite".
Yet we are getting snubbed while being the only relevant program west of the Mississippi.
I view what is happening on the West Coast as much of an indictment on the PAC 12 as it is on the UW
We don't know what this class is going to look at yet ... so it's way too early to say whether it's going to look good/bad, etc.
Everything at this point just comes off to me as massively premature
Sure, it's May, not going to even argue that. LIPO on the recruiting class.
But which of my criticisms did you think is premature? Simplifying the offense? Fixing the branding? Fixing relationships with local programs?
These are all things we've all been harping on for at least a year or more. The only person who thinks this is new sky is falling talk is the transplant from doogman that doesn't understand the DDY phases of the moon.
Nothing that you said personally but all of the overarching hand wringing of what's going on.
Not everything that I hear or would say privately I put out there either here or on Twitter (yes, I know chat's going to be crazy) ... but there have been rumors for a while that some of the local kids weren't high on UW for whatever reason.
The reality is that you will never make everybody happy ... I just don't think it's worth a lot of time trying to cater to everybody. That's essentially what Oregon's doing by offering everybody, stringing them along, and then kicking people to the curb once they decide that they are going elsewhere, etc. What many are essentially arguing about is that we should be more like Oregon.
Whether people like it or not, we have an identity of what we value in the program in terms of talent, work ethic, and being well rounded both on and off the field ... how does that play out over time:
We make fun of a lot of people for not being at a place to play school ... well under Pete he expects that. That's going to eliminate some people from viewing UW as a legitimate option. So be it.
We make fun of talented players going to places (cough ... USC) where they essentially are the same players when they leave as they were going in and it shows where they are drafted. Look at the draft results for UW players ... how many of them get drafted and often at higher levels than their "ratings" would suggest coming out of HS. That's where the hard work in the weight room, each day at practice, etc. show up. And BTW, let's look at the NFL for a second ... clearly what we are doing is resonating with them given that our players consistently get drafted at high rates and those not drafted get in as undrafted players with good opportunities to make rosters. And moreover, when you look at the teams that are largely taking our players, a lot of them are teams that have had a lot of recent success whether as a team as a whole or within their specific areas (i.e. Arizona and the secondary).
And from a talent standpoint, we're selective at what we do. I think many confuse the number of offers with contact and communication. Take the DB from Arizona that we recently offered that basically said in so many words "this was a big offer, I've now got a Final 5, and I'll be announcing in the near future" ... that doesn't just come out of nowhere. But whereas again we laugh at how many of those Oregon offers are committable ... by and large we don't offer somebody unless we really think that you fit. That comes from not only talent evaluation but also evaluating your character, etc. So if we're not at a spot where we have offered someone yet it may be from a talent standpoint (i.e. where is the right fit, what position, etc.) or may be from a character standpoint. From an article that I read (I believe it was from Caple) talking about UW recruiting, one of the things tied into Pete's culture is that the HS coaches/programs that we have really good relationships with are really good at helping to identify which players are or are not good fits for UW.
All of this adds up to 2 really big conclusions ...
1) Our success rate at being attractive to the kids that we recruit is really high ... we don't offer if we don't mean it and we've done a lot of due diligence before offering ... it also leads to a situation where the kids that we're recruiting are going to be ones that know what they are signing up for and embrace all of what that means
2) The thing that I don't think gets mentioned enough is that what we do initially in recruiting often plays itself out in terms of how low the transfer rates are ... we all intuitively know that older players tend to develop more and are at minimum physically more able to play. It's why we joke about players like Andrew/Evan Hudson that seemingly have done nothing in the program and then as a senior they show up and make giant leaps. If you're constantly losing players after the first 1-2 years in the program, you might as well have not even recruited them and when you go back and look at their recruiting rankings, just eliminate those players when you do your reviews.
There's always things that the program can be doing better. By and large, when faced with areas where things have gone South, they've adjusted accordingly.
You could argue that they should be more forward thinking but this is where we have to remember that we're talking about football coaches here. If some were part of conversations that I've had with @Dennis_DeYoung and @CokeGreaterThanPepsi tied to the overall strategy behind what takes place in a large program, most would be shocked. I view UW Football as a $100M a year business that has certain amounts of strategy needs behind it. There's room to really build out the back office direction there that you'd expect a business of that size to have. But the reality is that that's likely true for just about every program in the Country.
You would never know that by the takes on this board.
I agree... with last year.
Aren’t we in a what have you done for me lately society? The suck until they don’t?
Maybe that’s just how I think because I’ve spent the last 15+ yrs in sales management.
I’m not pleased thus far and I think there’s evidence to back up this years current state of recruitment. Missing on a kid that shoulda been a slam dunk, we’ve missed making top 25’s for kids who should be highly interested, and kids that once were intrigued are no longer. My distaste is not race related rather strategy related and whom the strategy appeals to and how we are too stubborn to alter the strategy to appeal to the kids who will get us to the next level, the elite level.
LIPO, sure but with a frown on my face and distain in my tone.
And I’m done on this.
The thing that stuck out to me in this post are the words "elite level". I think by far the most interesting discussion on this board is does UW reallly want to be elite level? I'm far from convinced that upper leadership wants a football program to compete with Clemson and Alabama. The president doesn't strike me as a football fan. I question Jen's committment to big time scheduling. I question the athletic department's competency and willingness to effectively promote the team to the fanbase. I question whether the fanbase has the inborn love for football that championship fanbases have. I'm very doubtful that Pete wants to recruit the type of athlete that gets you to elite level as evidenced by his overall philosophy and retention of some pretty weak recruiters on staff. I honestly think everyone involved in the program is happy to win 10 games a year and compete for PAC 12 crowns.
I definitely think the program can improve in a few respects, but I really disagree with your last sentence. Pete is too damn competitive to just resign himself to being the tallest midget on the west coast. Pete took a team that wasnt even in the top 25 talent wise to the fucking playoff, and one unit was easily championship caliber (defense)
Recruiting is trending way, way up since then. We need to LIPO a bit more. I personally think at the current trajectory UW will win a national title in the next 10 years.
Have you looked at Clemson's latest recruiting class? We are not even in the same universe to compete with that kind of haul. Just imagine them leveling up from that for the next two or 3 classes. I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that attracts that level of talent to UW. Just being realistic. If you see something about our program that compares to that level of committment that Clemson has I'm willing to be educated.
We gotta win a NC or at the very least a playoff game to join that recruiting universe. This has been rehashed, continually, perpetually, ad nauseam, over and over again, but Clemson was right where we are now, recruiting-wise, until they won a playoff game (and then next year a NC). UW does not have enough built-in advantages (location, tradition, etc) to recruit at that level right now and we don't give out bags or pander to elite recruits. Whether you like that or not, that's just how it is. Winning is the only thing that will push UW to that next level of recruiting. We have to have that breakthrough win and then the recruiting dominoes will fall. It could very well happen this year. Put me down for UW 31 - Alabama 2.
This is boring doog narrative bullshit. Winning isn't the only thing. What the fuck has Oregon won lately? Oh right, the prestigious red box bowl.
How about improving the messaging, branding, and marketing? #swooshlife #wareagle
How about not inviting elite recruits for games against North Dakota?
How about dumping coaches that don't even bother contacting elite recruits in the first place?
How about leveraging local talent by developing relationships early so that even if you haven't officially offered, the recruits talk about the coaching staff as involved and connected to all the local power programs?
How about not wasting resources trying to recruit diamonds in the rough out of Texas and just owning the shit out of California and the West coast first?
How about simplyfying an overly complex offense, loosening the fuck up as a program, having some fun, and not choking away a meaningful & winnable game because everything is based around the fear of fucking up?
No shit winning helps recruiting, so do a lot of other things that we have improved and can continue to improve.
GTFO and go push this shit back at Doogman or go circle jerk with J over "recruiting doesn't matter".
You clearly have it all figured out and know what's going on behind the scenes. Why are you wasting your incredible talent here? Go write a letter.
LEAVE! You artifact of the Ty era.
Do the cocksuckers over at doogman a favor and drink bleach while you are at it.
My gawd you're pathetic.
Nope. It is your hawt takes and your biggest little city that are pathetic.
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UW/Pete apparently hates inner city people ...
UW isn't diverse enough and is elitist ...
UW has 7 of it's 10 assistant coaches that are AA or Poly ...
4 recruits so far are Caucasian so that clearly fits at least one of the narratives above ...
An AA WR coach of ours is trying to replicate the performance of a former player of his that has had high end success at both the college and pro level that's Caucasian so that's the reason for our latest recruiting giving a verbal
The amount of spin that is coming out with people trying to support their rationales and theories is mind blowing at this point.
Our recent uptick in recruiting has come just recently ..
The first classes for Pete laid the foundation for stepping up to that elite level ...
These recent and next classes lay the foundation for staying at that level and taking it up ...
The next jump for this program is having a roster full of people that have the kind of confidence and belief in them to beat those top teams ...
I hear people talk about swag a lot ... there's also a lot of undertones in those comments about what swag is ...
Swag is knowing that you're the best and taking it to the people that compete against you ...
Swag doesn't mean that you are the best ...
Swag just means that you're going to be relentless, that you are never going to stop, and that when the chips are all on the table, you're going to do everything possible to come out on top.
Way too many missing the mark right now ...
Things are not perfect and can always get better ... but that doesn't mean that you blow up the successes ... that's what your competitors want you to do.
Elite talent, especially elite talent that goes to high school in your motherfucking backyard.
What people are saying is that the current class forecast looks like a downgrade from those classes.
That's while having enough in state talent to take the class to the next level of "elite".
Yet we are getting snubbed while being the only relevant program west of the Mississippi.
We don't know what this class is going to look at yet ... so it's way too early to say whether it's going to look good/bad, etc.
Everything at this point just comes off to me as massively premature
No wonder Pete wanted garbers so badly
But which of my criticisms did you think is premature? Simplifying the offense? Fixing the branding? Fixing relationships with local programs?
These are all things we've all been harping on for at least a year or more. The only person who thinks this is new sky is falling talk is the transplant from doogman that doesn't understand the DDY phases of the moon.
Fucking Christ this place has amnesia.
That has nothing to do with the number of ways I pointed out that the program can improve or having to listen to dogshit about we just need to be happy because UW has natural limitations so we need to adjust our expectations downward.
Not everything that I hear or would say privately I put out there either here or on Twitter (yes, I know chat's going to be crazy) ... but there have been rumors for a while that some of the local kids weren't high on UW for whatever reason.
The reality is that you will never make everybody happy ... I just don't think it's worth a lot of time trying to cater to everybody. That's essentially what Oregon's doing by offering everybody, stringing them along, and then kicking people to the curb once they decide that they are going elsewhere, etc. What many are essentially arguing about is that we should be more like Oregon.
Whether people like it or not, we have an identity of what we value in the program in terms of talent, work ethic, and being well rounded both on and off the field ... how does that play out over time:
We make fun of a lot of people for not being at a place to play school ... well under Pete he expects that. That's going to eliminate some people from viewing UW as a legitimate option. So be it.
We make fun of talented players going to places (cough ... USC) where they essentially are the same players when they leave as they were going in and it shows where they are drafted. Look at the draft results for UW players ... how many of them get drafted and often at higher levels than their "ratings" would suggest coming out of HS. That's where the hard work in the weight room, each day at practice, etc. show up. And BTW, let's look at the NFL for a second ... clearly what we are doing is resonating with them given that our players consistently get drafted at high rates and those not drafted get in as undrafted players with good opportunities to make rosters. And moreover, when you look at the teams that are largely taking our players, a lot of them are teams that have had a lot of recent success whether as a team as a whole or within their specific areas (i.e. Arizona and the secondary).
And from a talent standpoint, we're selective at what we do. I think many confuse the number of offers with contact and communication. Take the DB from Arizona that we recently offered that basically said in so many words "this was a big offer, I've now got a Final 5, and I'll be announcing in the near future" ... that doesn't just come out of nowhere. But whereas again we laugh at how many of those Oregon offers are committable ... by and large we don't offer somebody unless we really think that you fit. That comes from not only talent evaluation but also evaluating your character, etc. So if we're not at a spot where we have offered someone yet it may be from a talent standpoint (i.e. where is the right fit, what position, etc.) or may be from a character standpoint. From an article that I read (I believe it was from Caple) talking about UW recruiting, one of the things tied into Pete's culture is that the HS coaches/programs that we have really good relationships with are really good at helping to identify which players are or are not good fits for UW.
All of this adds up to 2 really big conclusions ...
1) Our success rate at being attractive to the kids that we recruit is really high ... we don't offer if we don't mean it and we've done a lot of due diligence before offering ... it also leads to a situation where the kids that we're recruiting are going to be ones that know what they are signing up for and embrace all of what that means
2) The thing that I don't think gets mentioned enough is that what we do initially in recruiting often plays itself out in terms of how low the transfer rates are ... we all intuitively know that older players tend to develop more and are at minimum physically more able to play. It's why we joke about players like Andrew/Evan Hudson that seemingly have done nothing in the program and then as a senior they show up and make giant leaps. If you're constantly losing players after the first 1-2 years in the program, you might as well have not even recruited them and when you go back and look at their recruiting rankings, just eliminate those players when you do your reviews.
There's always things that the program can be doing better. By and large, when faced with areas where things have gone South, they've adjusted accordingly.
You could argue that they should be more forward thinking but this is where we have to remember that we're talking about football coaches here. If some were part of conversations that I've had with @Dennis_DeYoung and @CokeGreaterThanPepsi tied to the overall strategy behind what takes place in a large program, most would be shocked. I view UW Football as a $100M a year business that has certain amounts of strategy needs behind it. There's room to really build out the back office direction there that you'd expect a business of that size to have. But the reality is that that's likely true for just about every program in the Country.
How will I ever be able to deal with that?