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someone is a fan of the TSIO guysPurpleJ said:Bdtw actually getting started would have been the best thing that ever happened to this place.
Just fucking LEAVE Dennis and take your beta cuck followers with you. -
This is boring doog narrative bullshit. Winning isn't the only thing. What the fuck has Oregon won lately? Oh right, the prestigious red box bowl.CallMeBigErn said:
We gotta win a NC or at the very least a playoff game to join that recruiting universe. This has been rehashed, continually, perpetually, ad nauseam, over and over again, but Clemson was right where we are now, recruiting-wise, until they won a playoff game (and then next year a NC). UW does not have enough built-in advantages (location, tradition, etc) to recruit at that level right now and we don't give out bags or pander to elite recruits. Whether you like that or not, that's just how it is. Winning is the only thing that will push UW to that next level of recruiting. We have to have that breakthrough win and then the recruiting dominoes will fall. It could very well happen this year. Put me down for UW 31 - Alabama 2.whuggy said:
Have you looked at Clemson's latest recruiting class? We are not even in the same universe to compete with that kind of haul. Just imagine them leveling up from that for the next two or 3 classes. I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that attracts that level of talent to UW. Just being realistic. If you see something about our program that compares to that level of committment that Clemson has I'm willing to be educated.PostGameOrangeSlices said:whuggy said:
The thing that stuck out to me in this post are the words "elite level". I think by far the most interesting discussion on this board is does UW reallly want to be elite level? I'm far from convinced that upper leadership wants a football program to compete with Clemson and Alabama. The president doesn't strike me as a football fan. I question Jen's committment to big time scheduling. I question the athletic department's competency and willingness to effectively promote the team to the fanbase. I question whether the fanbase has the inborn love for football that championship fanbases have. I'm very doubtful that Pete wants to recruit the type of athlete that gets you to elite level as evidenced by his overall philosophy and retention of some pretty weak recruiters on staff. I honestly think everyone involved in the program is happy to win 10 games a year and compete for PAC 12 crowns.dirtysouwfdawg said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:Look, Ive been consistent
UW got it's best recruiting class ever last year.
You would never know that by the takes on this board.
I agree... with last year.
Aren’t we in a what have you done for me lately society? The suck until they don’t?
Maybe that’s just how I think because I’ve spent the last 15+ yrs in sales management.
I’m not pleased thus far and I think there’s evidence to back up this years current state of recruitment. Missing on a kid that shoulda been a slam dunk, we’ve missed making top 25’s for kids who should be highly interested, and kids that once were intrigued are no longer. My distaste is not race related rather strategy related and whom the strategy appeals to and how we are too stubborn to alter the strategy to appeal to the kids who will get us to the next level, the elite level.
LIPO, sure but with a frown on my face and distain in my tone.
And I’m done on this.
I definitely think the program can improve in a few respects, but I really disagree with your last sentence. Pete is too damn competitive to just resign himself to being the tallest midget on the west coast. Pete took a team that wasnt even in the top 25 talent wise to the fucking playoff, and one unit was easily championship caliber (defense)
Recruiting is trending way, way up since then. We need to LIPO a bit more. I personally think at the current trajectory UW will win a national title in the next 10 years.
How about improving the messaging, branding, and marketing? #swooshlife #wareagle
How about not inviting elite recruits for games against North Dakota?
How about dumping coaches that don't even bother contacting elite recruits in the first place?
How about leveraging local talent by developing relationships early so that even if you haven't officially offered, the recruits talk about the coaching staff as involved and connected to all the local power programs?
How about not wasting resources trying to recruit diamonds in the rough out of Texas and just owning the shit out of California and the West coast first?
How about simplyfying an overly complex offense, loosening the fuck up as a program, having some fun, and not choking away a meaningful & winnable game because everything is based around the fear of fucking up?
No shit winning helps recruiting, so do a lot of other things that we have improved and can continue to improve.
GTFO and go push this shit back at Doogman or go circle jerk with J over "recruiting doesn't matter". -
CallMeBigErn said:
We gotta win a NC or at the very least a playoff game to join that recruiting universe. This has been rehashed, continually, perpetually, ad nauseam, over and over again, but Clemson was right where we are now, recruiting-wise, until they won a playoff game (and then next year a NC). UW does not have enough built-in advantages (location, tradition, etc) to recruit at that level right now and we don't give out bags or pander to elite recruits. Whether you like that or not, that's just how it is. Winning is the only thing that will push UW to that next level of recruiting. We have to have that breakthrough win and then the recruiting dominoes will fall. It could very well happen this year. Put me down for UW 31 - Alabama 2.whuggy said:
Have you looked at Clemson's latest recruiting class? We are not even in the same universe to compete with that kind of haul. Just imagine them leveling up from that for the next two or 3 classes. I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that attracts that level of talent to UW. Just being realistic. If you see something about our program that compares to that level of committment that Clemson has I'm willing to be educated.PostGameOrangeSlices said:whuggy said:
The thing that stuck out to me in this post are the words "elite level". I think by far the most interesting discussion on this board is does UW reallly want to be elite level? I'm far from convinced that upper leadership wants a football program to compete with Clemson and Alabama. The president doesn't strike me as a football fan. I question Jen's committment to big time scheduling. I question the athletic department's competency and willingness to effectively promote the team to the fanbase. I question whether the fanbase has the inborn love for football that championship fanbases have. I'm very doubtful that Pete wants to recruit the type of athlete that gets you to elite level as evidenced by his overall philosophy and retention of some pretty weak recruiters on staff. I honestly think everyone involved in the program is happy to win 10 games a year and compete for PAC 12 crowns.dirtysouwfdawg said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:Look, Ive been consistent
UW got it's best recruiting class ever last year.
You would never know that by the takes on this board.
I agree... with last year.
Aren’t we in a what have you done for me lately society? The suck until they don’t?
Maybe that’s just how I think because I’ve spent the last 15+ yrs in sales management.
I’m not pleased thus far and I think there’s evidence to back up this years current state of recruitment. Missing on a kid that shoulda been a slam dunk, we’ve missed making top 25’s for kids who should be highly interested, and kids that once were intrigued are no longer. My distaste is not race related rather strategy related and whom the strategy appeals to and how we are too stubborn to alter the strategy to appeal to the kids who will get us to the next level, the elite level.
LIPO, sure but with a frown on my face and distain in my tone.
And I’m done on this.
I definitely think the program can improve in a few respects, but I really disagree with your last sentence. Pete is too damn competitive to just resign himself to being the tallest midget on the west coast. Pete took a team that wasnt even in the top 25 talent wise to the fucking playoff, and one unit was easily championship caliber (defense)
Recruiting is trending way, way up since then. We need to LIPO a bit more. I personally think at the current trajectory UW will win a national title in the next 10 years.
Wish I could upvote this 100 times. We have figured out winning is not enough. The last 3 seasons have proved this.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is boring doog narrative bullshit. Winning isn't the only thing. What the fuck has Oregon won lately? Oh right, the prestigious red box bowl.CallMeBigErn said:
We gotta win a NC or at the very least a playoff game to join that recruiting universe. This has been rehashed, continually, perpetually, ad nauseam, over and over again, but Clemson was right where we are now, recruiting-wise, until they won a playoff game (and then next year a NC). UW does not have enough built-in advantages (location, tradition, etc) to recruit at that level right now and we don't give out bags or pander to elite recruits. Whether you like that or not, that's just how it is. Winning is the only thing that will push UW to that next level of recruiting. We have to have that breakthrough win and then the recruiting dominoes will fall. It could very well happen this year. Put me down for UW 31 - Alabama 2.whuggy said:
Have you looked at Clemson's latest recruiting class? We are not even in the same universe to compete with that kind of haul. Just imagine them leveling up from that for the next two or 3 classes. I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that attracts that level of talent to UW. Just being realistic. If you see something about our program that compares to that level of committment that Clemson has I'm willing to be educated.PostGameOrangeSlices said:whuggy said:
The thing that stuck out to me in this post are the words "elite level". I think by far the most interesting discussion on this board is does UW reallly want to be elite level? I'm far from convinced that upper leadership wants a football program to compete with Clemson and Alabama. The president doesn't strike me as a football fan. I question Jen's committment to big time scheduling. I question the athletic department's competency and willingness to effectively promote the team to the fanbase. I question whether the fanbase has the inborn love for football that championship fanbases have. I'm very doubtful that Pete wants to recruit the type of athlete that gets you to elite level as evidenced by his overall philosophy and retention of some pretty weak recruiters on staff. I honestly think everyone involved in the program is happy to win 10 games a year and compete for PAC 12 crowns.dirtysouwfdawg said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:Look, Ive been consistent
UW got it's best recruiting class ever last year.
You would never know that by the takes on this board.
I agree... with last year.
Aren’t we in a what have you done for me lately society? The suck until they don’t?
Maybe that’s just how I think because I’ve spent the last 15+ yrs in sales management.
I’m not pleased thus far and I think there’s evidence to back up this years current state of recruitment. Missing on a kid that shoulda been a slam dunk, we’ve missed making top 25’s for kids who should be highly interested, and kids that once were intrigued are no longer. My distaste is not race related rather strategy related and whom the strategy appeals to and how we are too stubborn to alter the strategy to appeal to the kids who will get us to the next level, the elite level.
LIPO, sure but with a frown on my face and distain in my tone.
And I’m done on this.
I definitely think the program can improve in a few respects, but I really disagree with your last sentence. Pete is too damn competitive to just resign himself to being the tallest midget on the west coast. Pete took a team that wasnt even in the top 25 talent wise to the fucking playoff, and one unit was easily championship caliber (defense)
Recruiting is trending way, way up since then. We need to LIPO a bit more. I personally think at the current trajectory UW will win a national title in the next 10 years.
How about improving the messaging, branding, and marketing? #swooshlife #wareagle
How about not inviting elite recruits for games against North Dakota?
How about dumping coaches that don't even bother contacting elite recruits in the first place?
How about leveraging local talent by developing relationships early so that even if you haven't officially offered, the recruits talk about the coaching staff as involved and connected to all the local power programs?
How about not wasting resources trying to recruit diamonds in the rough out of Texas and just owning the shit out of California and the West coast first?
How about simplyfying an overly complex offense, loosening the fuck up as a program, having some fun, and not choking away a meaningful & winnable game because everything is based around the fear of fucking up?
No shit winning helps recruiting, so do a lot of other things that we have improved and can continue to improve.
GTFO and go push this shit back at Doogman or go circle jerk with J over "recruiting doesn't matter".
I remain unconvinced that UW is really "in it to win it". We fall short of serious programs in so many areas. Maybe it's just we are what we are. -
i came.....on J backUW_Doog_Bot said:
This is boring doog narrative bullshit. Winning isn't the only thing. What the fuck has Oregon won lately? Oh right, the prestigious red box bowl.CallMeBigErn said:
We gotta win a NC or at the very least a playoff game to join that recruiting universe. This has been rehashed, continually, perpetually, ad nauseam, over and over again, but Clemson was right where we are now, recruiting-wise, until they won a playoff game (and then next year a NC). UW does not have enough built-in advantages (location, tradition, etc) to recruit at that level right now and we don't give out bags or pander to elite recruits. Whether you like that or not, that's just how it is. Winning is the only thing that will push UW to that next level of recruiting. We have to have that breakthrough win and then the recruiting dominoes will fall. It could very well happen this year. Put me down for UW 31 - Alabama 2.whuggy said:
Have you looked at Clemson's latest recruiting class? We are not even in the same universe to compete with that kind of haul. Just imagine them leveling up from that for the next two or 3 classes. I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that attracts that level of talent to UW. Just being realistic. If you see something about our program that compares to that level of committment that Clemson has I'm willing to be educated.PostGameOrangeSlices said:whuggy said:
The thing that stuck out to me in this post are the words "elite level". I think by far the most interesting discussion on this board is does UW reallly want to be elite level? I'm far from convinced that upper leadership wants a football program to compete with Clemson and Alabama. The president doesn't strike me as a football fan. I question Jen's committment to big time scheduling. I question the athletic department's competency and willingness to effectively promote the team to the fanbase. I question whether the fanbase has the inborn love for football that championship fanbases have. I'm very doubtful that Pete wants to recruit the type of athlete that gets you to elite level as evidenced by his overall philosophy and retention of some pretty weak recruiters on staff. I honestly think everyone involved in the program is happy to win 10 games a year and compete for PAC 12 crowns.dirtysouwfdawg said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:Look, Ive been consistent
UW got it's best recruiting class ever last year.
You would never know that by the takes on this board.
I agree... with last year.
Aren’t we in a what have you done for me lately society? The suck until they don’t?
Maybe that’s just how I think because I’ve spent the last 15+ yrs in sales management.
I’m not pleased thus far and I think there’s evidence to back up this years current state of recruitment. Missing on a kid that shoulda been a slam dunk, we’ve missed making top 25’s for kids who should be highly interested, and kids that once were intrigued are no longer. My distaste is not race related rather strategy related and whom the strategy appeals to and how we are too stubborn to alter the strategy to appeal to the kids who will get us to the next level, the elite level.
LIPO, sure but with a frown on my face and distain in my tone.
And I’m done on this.
I definitely think the program can improve in a few respects, but I really disagree with your last sentence. Pete is too damn competitive to just resign himself to being the tallest midget on the west coast. Pete took a team that wasnt even in the top 25 talent wise to the fucking playoff, and one unit was easily championship caliber (defense)
Recruiting is trending way, way up since then. We need to LIPO a bit more. I personally think at the current trajectory UW will win a national title in the next 10 years.
How about improving the messaging, branding, and marketing? #swooshlife #wareagle
How about not inviting elite recruits for games against North Dakota?
How about dumping coaches that don't even bother contacting elite recruits in the first place?
How about leveraging local talent by developing relationships early so that even if you haven't officially offered, the recruits talk about the coaching staff as involved and connected to all the local power programs?
How about not wasting resources trying to recruit diamonds in the rough out of Texas and just owning the shit out of California and the West coast first?
How about simplyfying an overly complex offense, loosening the fuck up as a program, having some fun, and not choking away a meaningful & winnable game because everything is based around the fear of fucking up?
No shit winning helps recruiting, so do a lot of other things that we have improved and can continue to improve.
GTFO and go push this shit back at Doogman or go circle jerk with J over "recruiting doesn't matter". -
INvite PGOS. He likes handys and gold stars.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is boring doog narrative bullshit. Winning isn't the only thing. What the fuck has Oregon won lately? Oh right, the prestigious red box bowl.CallMeBigErn said:
We gotta win a NC or at the very least a playoff game to join that recruiting universe. This has been rehashed, continually, perpetually, ad nauseam, over and over again, but Clemson was right where we are now, recruiting-wise, until they won a playoff game (and then next year a NC). UW does not have enough built-in advantages (location, tradition, etc) to recruit at that level right now and we don't give out bags or pander to elite recruits. Whether you like that or not, that's just how it is. Winning is the only thing that will push UW to that next level of recruiting. We have to have that breakthrough win and then the recruiting dominoes will fall. It could very well happen this year. Put me down for UW 31 - Alabama 2.whuggy said:
Have you looked at Clemson's latest recruiting class? We are not even in the same universe to compete with that kind of haul. Just imagine them leveling up from that for the next two or 3 classes. I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that attracts that level of talent to UW. Just being realistic. If you see something about our program that compares to that level of committment that Clemson has I'm willing to be educated.PostGameOrangeSlices said:whuggy said:
The thing that stuck out to me in this post are the words "elite level". I think by far the most interesting discussion on this board is does UW reallly want to be elite level? I'm far from convinced that upper leadership wants a football program to compete with Clemson and Alabama. The president doesn't strike me as a football fan. I question Jen's committment to big time scheduling. I question the athletic department's competency and willingness to effectively promote the team to the fanbase. I question whether the fanbase has the inborn love for football that championship fanbases have. I'm very doubtful that Pete wants to recruit the type of athlete that gets you to elite level as evidenced by his overall philosophy and retention of some pretty weak recruiters on staff. I honestly think everyone involved in the program is happy to win 10 games a year and compete for PAC 12 crowns.dirtysouwfdawg said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:Look, Ive been consistent
UW got it's best recruiting class ever last year.
You would never know that by the takes on this board.
I agree... with last year.
Aren’t we in a what have you done for me lately society? The suck until they don’t?
Maybe that’s just how I think because I’ve spent the last 15+ yrs in sales management.
I’m not pleased thus far and I think there’s evidence to back up this years current state of recruitment. Missing on a kid that shoulda been a slam dunk, we’ve missed making top 25’s for kids who should be highly interested, and kids that once were intrigued are no longer. My distaste is not race related rather strategy related and whom the strategy appeals to and how we are too stubborn to alter the strategy to appeal to the kids who will get us to the next level, the elite level.
LIPO, sure but with a frown on my face and distain in my tone.
And I’m done on this.
I definitely think the program can improve in a few respects, but I really disagree with your last sentence. Pete is too damn competitive to just resign himself to being the tallest midget on the west coast. Pete took a team that wasnt even in the top 25 talent wise to the fucking playoff, and one unit was easily championship caliber (defense)
Recruiting is trending way, way up since then. We need to LIPO a bit more. I personally think at the current trajectory UW will win a national title in the next 10 years.
How about improving the messaging, branding, and marketing? #swooshlife #wareagle
How about not inviting elite recruits for games against North Dakota?
How about dumping coaches that don't even bother contacting elite recruits in the first place?
How about leveraging local talent by developing relationships early so that even if you haven't officially offered, the recruits talk about the coaching staff as involved and connected to all the local power programs?
How about not wasting resources trying to recruit diamonds in the rough out of Texas and just owning the shit out of California and the West coast first?
How about simplyfying an overly complex offense, loosening the fuck up as a program, having some fun, and not choking away a meaningful & winnable game because everything is based around the fear of fucking up?
No shit winning helps recruiting, so do a lot of other things that we have improved and can continue to improve.
GTFO and go push this shit back at Doogman or go circle jerk with J over "recruiting doesn't matter". -
Uhhh. UW has not one a fucking thing that is of national relevancywhuggy said:CallMeBigErn said:
We gotta win a NC or at the very least a playoff game to join that recruiting universe. This has been rehashed, continually, perpetually, ad nauseam, over and over again, but Clemson was right where we are now, recruiting-wise, until they won a playoff game (and then next year a NC). UW does not have enough built-in advantages (location, tradition, etc) to recruit at that level right now and we don't give out bags or pander to elite recruits. Whether you like that or not, that's just how it is. Winning is the only thing that will push UW to that next level of recruiting. We have to have that breakthrough win and then the recruiting dominoes will fall. It could very well happen this year. Put me down for UW 31 - Alabama 2.whuggy said:
Have you looked at Clemson's latest recruiting class? We are not even in the same universe to compete with that kind of haul. Just imagine them leveling up from that for the next two or 3 classes. I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that attracts that level of talent to UW. Just being realistic. If you see something about our program that compares to that level of committment that Clemson has I'm willing to be educated.PostGameOrangeSlices said:whuggy said:
The thing that stuck out to me in this post are the words "elite level". I think by far the most interesting discussion on this board is does UW reallly want to be elite level? I'm far from convinced that upper leadership wants a football program to compete with Clemson and Alabama. The president doesn't strike me as a football fan. I question Jen's committment to big time scheduling. I question the athletic department's competency and willingness to effectively promote the team to the fanbase. I question whether the fanbase has the inborn love for football that championship fanbases have. I'm very doubtful that Pete wants to recruit the type of athlete that gets you to elite level as evidenced by his overall philosophy and retention of some pretty weak recruiters on staff. I honestly think everyone involved in the program is happy to win 10 games a year and compete for PAC 12 crowns.dirtysouwfdawg said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:Look, Ive been consistent
UW got it's best recruiting class ever last year.
You would never know that by the takes on this board.
I agree... with last year.
Aren’t we in a what have you done for me lately society? The suck until they don’t?
Maybe that’s just how I think because I’ve spent the last 15+ yrs in sales management.
I’m not pleased thus far and I think there’s evidence to back up this years current state of recruitment. Missing on a kid that shoulda been a slam dunk, we’ve missed making top 25’s for kids who should be highly interested, and kids that once were intrigued are no longer. My distaste is not race related rather strategy related and whom the strategy appeals to and how we are too stubborn to alter the strategy to appeal to the kids who will get us to the next level, the elite level.
LIPO, sure but with a frown on my face and distain in my tone.
And I’m done on this.
I definitely think the program can improve in a few respects, but I really disagree with your last sentence. Pete is too damn competitive to just resign himself to being the tallest midget on the west coast. Pete took a team that wasnt even in the top 25 talent wise to the fucking playoff, and one unit was easily championship caliber (defense)
Recruiting is trending way, way up since then. We need to LIPO a bit more. I personally think at the current trajectory UW will win a national title in the next 10 years.
Wish I could upvote this 100 times. We have figured out winning is not enough. The last 3 seasons have proved this.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is boring doog narrative bullshit. Winning isn't the only thing. What the fuck has Oregon won lately? Oh right, the prestigious red box bowl.CallMeBigErn said:
We gotta win a NC or at the very least a playoff game to join that recruiting universe. This has been rehashed, continually, perpetually, ad nauseam, over and over again, but Clemson was right where we are now, recruiting-wise, until they won a playoff game (and then next year a NC). UW does not have enough built-in advantages (location, tradition, etc) to recruit at that level right now and we don't give out bags or pander to elite recruits. Whether you like that or not, that's just how it is. Winning is the only thing that will push UW to that next level of recruiting. We have to have that breakthrough win and then the recruiting dominoes will fall. It could very well happen this year. Put me down for UW 31 - Alabama 2.whuggy said:
Have you looked at Clemson's latest recruiting class? We are not even in the same universe to compete with that kind of haul. Just imagine them leveling up from that for the next two or 3 classes. I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that attracts that level of talent to UW. Just being realistic. If you see something about our program that compares to that level of committment that Clemson has I'm willing to be educated.PostGameOrangeSlices said:whuggy said:
The thing that stuck out to me in this post are the words "elite level". I think by far the most interesting discussion on this board is does UW reallly want to be elite level? I'm far from convinced that upper leadership wants a football program to compete with Clemson and Alabama. The president doesn't strike me as a football fan. I question Jen's committment to big time scheduling. I question the athletic department's competency and willingness to effectively promote the team to the fanbase. I question whether the fanbase has the inborn love for football that championship fanbases have. I'm very doubtful that Pete wants to recruit the type of athlete that gets you to elite level as evidenced by his overall philosophy and retention of some pretty weak recruiters on staff. I honestly think everyone involved in the program is happy to win 10 games a year and compete for PAC 12 crowns.dirtysouwfdawg said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:Look, Ive been consistent
UW got it's best recruiting class ever last year.
You would never know that by the takes on this board.
I agree... with last year.
Aren’t we in a what have you done for me lately society? The suck until they don’t?
Maybe that’s just how I think because I’ve spent the last 15+ yrs in sales management.
I’m not pleased thus far and I think there’s evidence to back up this years current state of recruitment. Missing on a kid that shoulda been a slam dunk, we’ve missed making top 25’s for kids who should be highly interested, and kids that once were intrigued are no longer. My distaste is not race related rather strategy related and whom the strategy appeals to and how we are too stubborn to alter the strategy to appeal to the kids who will get us to the next level, the elite level.
LIPO, sure but with a frown on my face and distain in my tone.
And I’m done on this.
I definitely think the program can improve in a few respects, but I really disagree with your last sentence. Pete is too damn competitive to just resign himself to being the tallest midget on the west coast. Pete took a team that wasnt even in the top 25 talent wise to the fucking playoff, and one unit was easily championship caliber (defense)
Recruiting is trending way, way up since then. We need to LIPO a bit more. I personally think at the current trajectory UW will win a national title in the next 10 years.
How about improving the messaging, branding, and marketing? #swooshlife #wareagle
How about not inviting elite recruits for games against North Dakota?
How about dumping coaches that don't even bother contacting elite recruits in the first place?
How about leveraging local talent by developing relationships early so that even if you haven't officially offered, the recruits talk about the coaching staff as involved and connected to all the local power programs?
How about not wasting resources trying to recruit diamonds in the rough out of Texas and just owning the shit out of California and the West coast first?
How about simplyfying an overly complex offense, loosening the fuck up as a program, having some fun, and not choking away a meaningful & winnable game because everything is based around the fear of fucking up?
No shit winning helps recruiting, so do a lot of other things that we have improved and can continue to improve.
GTFO and go push this shit back at Doogman or go circle jerk with J over "recruiting doesn't matter".
I remain unconvinced that UW is really "in it to win it". We fall short of serious programs in so many areas. Maybe it's just we are what we are. -
UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is boring doog narrative bullshit. Winning isn't the only thing. What the fuck has Oregon won lately? Oh right, the prestigious red box bowl.CallMeBigErn said:
We gotta win a NC or at the very least a playoff game to join that recruiting universe. This has been rehashed, continually, perpetually, ad nauseam, over and over again, but Clemson was right where we are now, recruiting-wise, until they won a playoff game (and then next year a NC). UW does not have enough built-in advantages (location, tradition, etc) to recruit at that level right now and we don't give out bags or pander to elite recruits. Whether you like that or not, that's just how it is. Winning is the only thing that will push UW to that next level of recruiting. We have to have that breakthrough win and then the recruiting dominoes will fall. It could very well happen this year. Put me down for UW 31 - Alabama 2.whuggy said:
Have you looked at Clemson's latest recruiting class? We are not even in the same universe to compete with that kind of haul. Just imagine them leveling up from that for the next two or 3 classes. I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that attracts that level of talent to UW. Just being realistic. If you see something about our program that compares to that level of committment that Clemson has I'm willing to be educated.PostGameOrangeSlices said:whuggy said:
The thing that stuck out to me in this post are the words "elite level". I think by far the most interesting discussion on this board is does UW reallly want to be elite level? I'm far from convinced that upper leadership wants a football program to compete with Clemson and Alabama. The president doesn't strike me as a football fan. I question Jen's committment to big time scheduling. I question the athletic department's competency and willingness to effectively promote the team to the fanbase. I question whether the fanbase has the inborn love for football that championship fanbases have. I'm very doubtful that Pete wants to recruit the type of athlete that gets you to elite level as evidenced by his overall philosophy and retention of some pretty weak recruiters on staff. I honestly think everyone involved in the program is happy to win 10 games a year and compete for PAC 12 crowns.dirtysouwfdawg said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:Look, Ive been consistent
UW got it's best recruiting class ever last year.
You would never know that by the takes on this board.
I agree... with last year.
Aren’t we in a what have you done for me lately society? The suck until they don’t?
Maybe that’s just how I think because I’ve spent the last 15+ yrs in sales management.
I’m not pleased thus far and I think there’s evidence to back up this years current state of recruitment. Missing on a kid that shoulda been a slam dunk, we’ve missed making top 25’s for kids who should be highly interested, and kids that once were intrigued are no longer. My distaste is not race related rather strategy related and whom the strategy appeals to and how we are too stubborn to alter the strategy to appeal to the kids who will get us to the next level, the elite level.
LIPO, sure but with a frown on my face and distain in my tone.
And I’m done on this.
I definitely think the program can improve in a few respects, but I really disagree with your last sentence. Pete is too damn competitive to just resign himself to being the tallest midget on the west coast. Pete took a team that wasnt even in the top 25 talent wise to the fucking playoff, and one unit was easily championship caliber (defense)
Recruiting is trending way, way up since then. We need to LIPO a bit more. I personally think at the current trajectory UW will win a national title in the next 10 years.
How about improving the messaging, branding, and marketing? #swooshlife #wareagle
How about not inviting elite recruits for games against North Dakota?
How about dumping coaches that don't even bother contacting elite recruits in the first place?
How about leveraging local talent by developing relationships early so that even if you haven't officially offered, the recruits talk about the coaching staff as involved and connected to all the local power programs?
How about not wasting resources trying to recruit diamonds in the rough out of Texas and just owning the shit out of California and the West coast first?
How about simplyfying an overly complex offense, loosening the fuck up as a program, having some fun, and not choking away a meaningful & winnable game because everything is based around the fear of fucking up?
No shit winning helps recruiting, so do a lot of other things that we have improved and can continue to improve.
GTFO and go push this shit back at Doogman or go circle jerk with J over "recruiting doesn't matter".
You clearly have it all figured out and know what's going on behind the scenes. Why are you wasting your incredible talent here? Go write a letter.
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LEAVE! You artifact of the Ty era.CallMeBigErn said:UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is boring doog narrative bullshit. Winning isn't the only thing. What the fuck has Oregon won lately? Oh right, the prestigious red box bowl.CallMeBigErn said:
We gotta win a NC or at the very least a playoff game to join that recruiting universe. This has been rehashed, continually, perpetually, ad nauseam, over and over again, but Clemson was right where we are now, recruiting-wise, until they won a playoff game (and then next year a NC). UW does not have enough built-in advantages (location, tradition, etc) to recruit at that level right now and we don't give out bags or pander to elite recruits. Whether you like that or not, that's just how it is. Winning is the only thing that will push UW to that next level of recruiting. We have to have that breakthrough win and then the recruiting dominoes will fall. It could very well happen this year. Put me down for UW 31 - Alabama 2.whuggy said:
Have you looked at Clemson's latest recruiting class? We are not even in the same universe to compete with that kind of haul. Just imagine them leveling up from that for the next two or 3 classes. I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that attracts that level of talent to UW. Just being realistic. If you see something about our program that compares to that level of committment that Clemson has I'm willing to be educated.PostGameOrangeSlices said:whuggy said:
The thing that stuck out to me in this post are the words "elite level". I think by far the most interesting discussion on this board is does UW reallly want to be elite level? I'm far from convinced that upper leadership wants a football program to compete with Clemson and Alabama. The president doesn't strike me as a football fan. I question Jen's committment to big time scheduling. I question the athletic department's competency and willingness to effectively promote the team to the fanbase. I question whether the fanbase has the inborn love for football that championship fanbases have. I'm very doubtful that Pete wants to recruit the type of athlete that gets you to elite level as evidenced by his overall philosophy and retention of some pretty weak recruiters on staff. I honestly think everyone involved in the program is happy to win 10 games a year and compete for PAC 12 crowns.dirtysouwfdawg said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:Look, Ive been consistent
UW got it's best recruiting class ever last year.
You would never know that by the takes on this board.
I agree... with last year.
Aren’t we in a what have you done for me lately society? The suck until they don’t?
Maybe that’s just how I think because I’ve spent the last 15+ yrs in sales management.
I’m not pleased thus far and I think there’s evidence to back up this years current state of recruitment. Missing on a kid that shoulda been a slam dunk, we’ve missed making top 25’s for kids who should be highly interested, and kids that once were intrigued are no longer. My distaste is not race related rather strategy related and whom the strategy appeals to and how we are too stubborn to alter the strategy to appeal to the kids who will get us to the next level, the elite level.
LIPO, sure but with a frown on my face and distain in my tone.
And I’m done on this.
I definitely think the program can improve in a few respects, but I really disagree with your last sentence. Pete is too damn competitive to just resign himself to being the tallest midget on the west coast. Pete took a team that wasnt even in the top 25 talent wise to the fucking playoff, and one unit was easily championship caliber (defense)
Recruiting is trending way, way up since then. We need to LIPO a bit more. I personally think at the current trajectory UW will win a national title in the next 10 years.
How about improving the messaging, branding, and marketing? #swooshlife #wareagle
How about not inviting elite recruits for games against North Dakota?
How about dumping coaches that don't even bother contacting elite recruits in the first place?
How about leveraging local talent by developing relationships early so that even if you haven't officially offered, the recruits talk about the coaching staff as involved and connected to all the local power programs?
How about not wasting resources trying to recruit diamonds in the rough out of Texas and just owning the shit out of California and the West coast first?
How about simplyfying an overly complex offense, loosening the fuck up as a program, having some fun, and not choking away a meaningful & winnable game because everything is based around the fear of fucking up?
No shit winning helps recruiting, so do a lot of other things that we have improved and can continue to improve.
GTFO and go push this shit back at Doogman or go circle jerk with J over "recruiting doesn't matter".
You clearly have it all figured out and know what's going on behind the scenes. Why are you wasting your incredible talent here? Go write a letter.
Do the cocksuckers over at doogman a favor and drink bleach while you are at it. -
Free Pub!UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is boring doog narrative bullshit.CallMeBigErn said:
We gotta win a NC or at the very least a playoff game to join that recruiting universe. This has been rehashed, continually, perpetually, ad nauseam, over and over again, but Clemson was right where we are now, recruiting-wise, until they won a playoff game (and then next year a NC). UW does not have enough built-in advantages (location, tradition, etc) to recruit at that level right now and we don't give out bags or pander to elite recruits. Whether you like that or not, that's just how it is. Winning is the only thing that will push UW to that next level of recruiting. We have to have that breakthrough win and then the recruiting dominoes will fall. It could very well happen this year. Put me down for UW 31 - Alabama 2.whuggy said:
Have you looked at Clemson's latest recruiting class? We are not even in the same universe to compete with that kind of haul. Just imagine them leveling up from that for the next two or 3 classes. I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that attracts that level of talent to UW. Just being realistic. If you see something about our program that compares to that level of committment that Clemson has I'm willing to be educated.PostGameOrangeSlices said:whuggy said:
The thing that stuck out to me in this post are the words "elite level". I think by far the most interesting discussion on this board is does UW reallly want to be elite level? I'm far from convinced that upper leadership wants a football program to compete with Clemson and Alabama. The president doesn't strike me as a football fan. I question Jen's committment to big time scheduling. I question the athletic department's competency and willingness to effectively promote the team to the fanbase. I question whether the fanbase has the inborn love for football that championship fanbases have. I'm very doubtful that Pete wants to recruit the type of athlete that gets you to elite level as evidenced by his overall philosophy and retention of some pretty weak recruiters on staff. I honestly think everyone involved in the program is happy to win 10 games a year and compete for PAC 12 crowns.dirtysouwfdawg said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:Look, Ive been consistent
UW got it's best recruiting class ever last year.
You would never know that by the takes on this board.
I agree... with last year.
Aren’t we in a what have you done for me lately society? The suck until they don’t?
Maybe that’s just how I think because I’ve spent the last 15+ yrs in sales management.
I’m not pleased thus far and I think there’s evidence to back up this years current state of recruitment. Missing on a kid that shoulda been a slam dunk, we’ve missed making top 25’s for kids who should be highly interested, and kids that once were intrigued are no longer. My distaste is not race related rather strategy related and whom the strategy appeals to and how we are too stubborn to alter the strategy to appeal to the kids who will get us to the next level, the elite level.
LIPO, sure but with a frown on my face and distain in my tone.
And I’m done on this.
I definitely think the program can improve in a few respects, but I really disagree with your last sentence. Pete is too damn competitive to just resign himself to being the tallest midget on the west coast. Pete took a team that wasnt even in the top 25 talent wise to the fucking playoff, and one unit was easily championship caliber (defense)
Recruiting is trending way, way up since then. We need to LIPO a bit more. I personally think at the current trajectory UW will win a national title in the next 10 years.
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My gawd you're pathetic.UW_Doog_Bot said:
LEAVE! You artifact of the Ty era.CallMeBigErn said:UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is boring doog narrative bullshit. Winning isn't the only thing. What the fuck has Oregon won lately? Oh right, the prestigious red box bowl.CallMeBigErn said:
We gotta win a NC or at the very least a playoff game to join that recruiting universe. This has been rehashed, continually, perpetually, ad nauseam, over and over again, but Clemson was right where we are now, recruiting-wise, until they won a playoff game (and then next year a NC). UW does not have enough built-in advantages (location, tradition, etc) to recruit at that level right now and we don't give out bags or pander to elite recruits. Whether you like that or not, that's just how it is. Winning is the only thing that will push UW to that next level of recruiting. We have to have that breakthrough win and then the recruiting dominoes will fall. It could very well happen this year. Put me down for UW 31 - Alabama 2.whuggy said:
Have you looked at Clemson's latest recruiting class? We are not even in the same universe to compete with that kind of haul. Just imagine them leveling up from that for the next two or 3 classes. I see absolutely nothing on the horizon that attracts that level of talent to UW. Just being realistic. If you see something about our program that compares to that level of committment that Clemson has I'm willing to be educated.PostGameOrangeSlices said:whuggy said:
The thing that stuck out to me in this post are the words "elite level". I think by far the most interesting discussion on this board is does UW reallly want to be elite level? I'm far from convinced that upper leadership wants a football program to compete with Clemson and Alabama. The president doesn't strike me as a football fan. I question Jen's committment to big time scheduling. I question the athletic department's competency and willingness to effectively promote the team to the fanbase. I question whether the fanbase has the inborn love for football that championship fanbases have. I'm very doubtful that Pete wants to recruit the type of athlete that gets you to elite level as evidenced by his overall philosophy and retention of some pretty weak recruiters on staff. I honestly think everyone involved in the program is happy to win 10 games a year and compete for PAC 12 crowns.dirtysouwfdawg said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:Look, Ive been consistent
UW got it's best recruiting class ever last year.
You would never know that by the takes on this board.
I agree... with last year.
Aren’t we in a what have you done for me lately society? The suck until they don’t?
Maybe that’s just how I think because I’ve spent the last 15+ yrs in sales management.
I’m not pleased thus far and I think there’s evidence to back up this years current state of recruitment. Missing on a kid that shoulda been a slam dunk, we’ve missed making top 25’s for kids who should be highly interested, and kids that once were intrigued are no longer. My distaste is not race related rather strategy related and whom the strategy appeals to and how we are too stubborn to alter the strategy to appeal to the kids who will get us to the next level, the elite level.
LIPO, sure but with a frown on my face and distain in my tone.
And I’m done on this.
I definitely think the program can improve in a few respects, but I really disagree with your last sentence. Pete is too damn competitive to just resign himself to being the tallest midget on the west coast. Pete took a team that wasnt even in the top 25 talent wise to the fucking playoff, and one unit was easily championship caliber (defense)
Recruiting is trending way, way up since then. We need to LIPO a bit more. I personally think at the current trajectory UW will win a national title in the next 10 years.
How about improving the messaging, branding, and marketing? #swooshlife #wareagle
How about not inviting elite recruits for games against North Dakota?
How about dumping coaches that don't even bother contacting elite recruits in the first place?
How about leveraging local talent by developing relationships early so that even if you haven't officially offered, the recruits talk about the coaching staff as involved and connected to all the local power programs?
How about not wasting resources trying to recruit diamonds in the rough out of Texas and just owning the shit out of California and the West coast first?
How about simplyfying an overly complex offense, loosening the fuck up as a program, having some fun, and not choking away a meaningful & winnable game because everything is based around the fear of fucking up?
No shit winning helps recruiting, so do a lot of other things that we have improved and can continue to improve.
GTFO and go push this shit back at Doogman or go circle jerk with J over "recruiting doesn't matter".
You clearly have it all figured out and know what's going on behind the scenes. Why are you wasting your incredible talent here? Go write a letter.
Do the cocksuckers over at doogman a favor and drink bleach while you are at it.
