I do feel bad for Chris Steele and his FLA nightmare that I hope he gets a good degree, a good experience, and just has fun at Oregon. I won’t be rooting for him to beat UDUB or anything but it shows just how human these kids are and it’s hard not to root for a 17-18 year old that’s put through such a shitty time. Adjusting to college and that time of your life is hard enough without football that I hope he’s just a good man when this is all said and done.
Oregon is fucking doing the damn thing in recruiting. If we recruited just 50% more like Oregon, we'd be Clemson. Instead we are going to be Stanford. Woohoo.
I'm not sure whether Cristobal can really coach. I don't know what's going to happen when they have success, etc... but he understands what they understand in the SEC: it's about getting a roster stacked with talent. That is the first step.
They are doing that. I wish we'd gotten Chris Steele, Kayvon and whomever else. DJ Johnson, etc.
If Cristobal is an average coach, then they will probably end up looking like USC or UCLA under Mora or Ole Miss under Hugh Freeze I think is a good comparison point.
If he gets good OCs and DCs he can be a really good coach. If that's the case, they are going to be Clemson west and we are going to be Harbaugh/Early Shaw-era Stanford.
Every year it will get easier for them to get talent. They care about it and they value it. Last year they got 50% of USC's normal class and 50% of UCLA's normal class.
Anyone that thinks they aren't a threat with this amount of talent and the recruiting juggernaut they are is fucking stupid.
I'm not saying they are going to win Natties with Cristobal. But unless he's a tard, with this talent, they should be pretty good.
Can he sustain? Handle success? Etc... who fucking knows?
So many fucking ifs. We are not Stanford, we have already surpassed anything they have done recently.
How many times has Pete compared this program to Boise State? If that isn’t trying to be small world successful instead of a Clemson, USC, Miami, Bama like dynasty, not sure what to tell ya.
If Petersen wanted this to be BSU he would have stayed in Boise. Hth
Please, tell me again, how well did his time end at Boise State? Did they build upon the talent that Hawkins & Kellen Moore built or did they max out trying to under recruit and outsmart Nevada, Fresno State, and Air Force.
Fucking Lol. The talent Hawkins built? I can't tell if youre trolling or not. Hawkins had nothing to do with Petersen's multiple undefeated seasons and COY awards. His last two BSU teams werent his best, but that has shit to do with wanting to compete with the big boys on the biggest stage. He got to the fucking playoff in year 3.
Chris Petersen won his first COY award in his first year after Hawkins left..... but why actually do research you have revisionist history.
Oh got it, so Hawkins was going to do the same thing, right? Hawkins also would have gone undefeated 4 years later for his second COY award.
How about we look and see what Pete did at a P5 school versus how Hawkins did.
Are we fucking done here?
Building and acquiring talent are different from coaching. Pete is the best coach and talent developer in the country. Period.
I’m not saying Dan Hawkins is the fucking man, I’m saying Pete thinks he’s such a good coach he can make up for meh recruiting and we already saw how that played out. Pete’s first year with Hawkins players he goes undefeated and beats Adrian Peterson and OU. From then on he should’ve been able to build and recruit a team so talented it never lost to a WAC-MWC team again. The last year of Hawkins influences recruits was 2009 where Boise State went undefeated. After that he lost to a MWC opponent every year including two losses in 2013 that also saw Boise State get blown out by a coaching retard named Sark.
How come it’s so easy for us to assume Oregon is going to get these top Cali guys (Steele, Addison, Thibodeaux, Navarette, Mykael Wright, Pittman) but our first instinct as UDUB fans is to say “we have no shot”? There’s a fucking reason for that.
Dude, you are so fucking off base it's insane. Do you even follow UW recruiting closely? You are looking at Oregon recruits with envy and yet UW didn't want most of them. Some guys just aren't hard working enough. Some are too self-centered. Some want to be paid. Some don't have the grades. On top of UW passing on most of those guys, they also got recruits that they think are just as talented if not more talented players than them:
Latu > Thibodeaux
Puka Nacua and Taj Davis > Pittman
Kam Fab and Trent McDuffie > Steele and Wright
Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker > Addison
The only real guy you can bitch about who we legitimately wanted is Navarette and I'd bet my pay check he doesn't sign with Oregon anyways. The grass is not greener on the other side. They're not bringing in better talent than us.
Way to read one sentence about Oregon players they’ve gotten and completely base my feelings, thoughts, and entire life values off of it.
All I’m saying is that Pete doesn’t give a fuck about recruiting at a Bama, Clemson, Ohio State level because if he did he Boise State wouldn’t have fallen off like they did after Kellen. I don’t give a flying fuck about Oregon recruits vs our recruits. All I care about is recruiting SoCal and attacking recruiting with the same intensity that you attack a game. He didn’t at Boise State and from 2010 till now they are seen just like Stanford, great character team that can win 8-10 games every year with the ceiling of getting to and maybe winning a NY6 game, instead of being a dynasty who’s floor is a NY6 appearance.
Before this 2020 class debacle he was on track to be a lil better than Boise/Stanford, after losing Smalls, Botelho, Phillips and allowing this OKG narrative to continue, has us back on track to be Stanford. Period.
You're still making zero sense. He had no chance of ever recruiting at a high level at Boise and our recruiting has been far superior to Stanford's for years now.
First you were bitching about not enough black kids being recruited now you're bitching about Petersen not recruiting with enough intensity. Seems like a flip flop.
I would like Petersen to be more aggressive on the trail as well but he's a stubborn old fuck who's not gonna change his ways. If anything he's becoming even more slow strategy and less aggressive as a recruiter than ever before. I am irritated with that as well. But we are in no way on track to being Stanford. Our last two recruiting classes are both better than any recruiting class Stanford has ever signed in the history of their program. Get a grip.
Right, Latu is better than Thibodeaux. Latu is the best prospect in the country.
Never said Latu was the best in the country. Point is, Thibodeaux definitely is not. He's far from the first overrated 5-star. Latu is bigger, just as fast and explosive, and more physical against the run.
I sat next to the family of a prominent Oregon player at the spring game. You should have heard some of the stuff they were saying about Kayvon Thibodeaux that their son told them, it confirms some of the rumors we had heard...
It was extremely complimentary of him as a person and football player.
Details or shut the fuck up.
Now don't take this too seriously, because their 4-star D-1 football player son isn't an expert on football talent like Ballz. It was something along the lines of no one on the team ever having seen anyone like Thibodeaux, incredible etc. The mother of another player took a break from two fisting Coors Light to echo that sentiment. Pretty fucking generic, I'm sorry.
In the "game" he had two "sacks," a big pressure, and knocked down a pass that would have been a completion. He was the most noticeable defensive player on the field. He was also the most emotional player on the sideline. I almost didn't want to type that because Ballz will doogslate that into Kayvon being an attention whore drama king. Which he probably is. But it takes about a second of looking at a live football play before he just pops out at you and you see what a real 5-star looks like.
I do feel bad for Chris Steele and his FLA nightmare that I hope he gets a good degree, a good experience, and just has fun at Oregon. I won’t be rooting for him to beat UDUB or anything but it shows just how human these kids are and it’s hard not to root for a 17-18 year old that’s put through such a shitty time. Adjusting to college and that time of your life is hard enough without football that I hope he’s just a good man when this is all said and done.
Oregon is fucking doing the damn thing in recruiting. If we recruited just 50% more like Oregon, we'd be Clemson. Instead we are going to be Stanford. Woohoo.
I'm not sure whether Cristobal can really coach. I don't know what's going to happen when they have success, etc... but he understands what they understand in the SEC: it's about getting a roster stacked with talent. That is the first step.
They are doing that. I wish we'd gotten Chris Steele, Kayvon and whomever else. DJ Johnson, etc.
If Cristobal is an average coach, then they will probably end up looking like USC or UCLA under Mora or Ole Miss under Hugh Freeze I think is a good comparison point.
If he gets good OCs and DCs he can be a really good coach. If that's the case, they are going to be Clemson west and we are going to be Harbaugh/Early Shaw-era Stanford.
Every year it will get easier for them to get talent. They care about it and they value it. Last year they got 50% of USC's normal class and 50% of UCLA's normal class.
Anyone that thinks they aren't a threat with this amount of talent and the recruiting juggernaut they are is fucking stupid.
I'm not saying they are going to win Natties with Cristobal. But unless he's a tard, with this talent, they should be pretty good.
Can he sustain? Handle success? Etc... who fucking knows?
So many fucking ifs. We are not Stanford, we have already surpassed anything they have done recently.
How many times has Pete compared this program to Boise State? If that isn’t trying to be small world successful instead of a Clemson, USC, Miami, Bama like dynasty, not sure what to tell ya.
If Petersen wanted this to be BSU he would have stayed in Boise. Hth
Please, tell me again, how well did his time end at Boise State? Did they build upon the talent that Hawkins & Kellen Moore built or did they max out trying to under recruit and outsmart Nevada, Fresno State, and Air Force.
Fucking Lol. The talent Hawkins built? I can't tell if youre trolling or not. Hawkins had nothing to do with Petersen's multiple undefeated seasons and COY awards. His last two BSU teams werent his best, but that has shit to do with wanting to compete with the big boys on the biggest stage. He got to the fucking playoff in year 3.
Chris Petersen won his first COY award in his first year after Hawkins left..... but why actually do research you have revisionist history.
Oh got it, so Hawkins was going to do the same thing, right? Hawkins also would have gone undefeated 4 years later for his second COY award.
How about we look and see what Pete did at a P5 school versus how Hawkins did.
Are we fucking done here?
Building and acquiring talent are different from coaching. Pete is the best coach and talent developer in the country. Period.
I’m not saying Dan Hawkins is the fucking man, I’m saying Pete thinks he’s such a good coach he can make up for meh recruiting and we already saw how that played out. Pete’s first year with Hawkins players he goes undefeated and beats Adrian Peterson and OU. From then on he should’ve been able to build and recruit a team so talented it never lost to a WAC-MWC team again. The last year of Hawkins influences recruits was 2009 where Boise State went undefeated. After that he lost to a MWC opponent every year including two losses in 2013 that also saw Boise State get blown out by a coaching retard named Sark.
How come it’s so easy for us to assume Oregon is going to get these top Cali guys (Steele, Addison, Thibodeaux, Navarette, Mykael Wright, Pittman) but our first instinct as UDUB fans is to say “we have no shot”? There’s a fucking reason for that.
Dude, you are so fucking off base it's insane. Do you even follow UW recruiting closely? You are looking at Oregon recruits with envy and yet UW didn't want most of them. Some guys just aren't hard working enough. Some are too self-centered. Some want to be paid. Some don't have the grades. On top of UW passing on most of those guys, they also got recruits that they think are just as talented if not more talented players than them:
Latu > Thibodeaux
Puka Nacua and Taj Davis > Pittman
Kam Fab and Trent McDuffie > Steele and Wright
Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker > Addison
The only real guy you can bitch about who we legitimately wanted is Navarette and I'd bet my pay check he doesn't sign with Oregon anyways. The grass is not greener on the other side. They're not bringing in better talent than us.
Way to read one sentence about Oregon players they’ve gotten and completely base my feelings, thoughts, and entire life values off of it.
All I’m saying is that Pete doesn’t give a fuck about recruiting at a Bama, Clemson, Ohio State level because if he did he Boise State wouldn’t have fallen off like they did after Kellen. I don’t give a flying fuck about Oregon recruits vs our recruits. All I care about is recruiting SoCal and attacking recruiting with the same intensity that you attack a game. He didn’t at Boise State and from 2010 till now they are seen just like Stanford, great character team that can win 8-10 games every year with the ceiling of getting to and maybe winning a NY6 game, instead of being a dynasty who’s floor is a NY6 appearance.
Before this 2020 class debacle he was on track to be a lil better than Boise/Stanford, after losing Smalls, Botelho, Phillips and allowing this OKG narrative to continue, has us back on track to be Stanford. Period.
You're still making zero sense. He had no chance of ever recruiting at a high level at Boise and our recruiting has been far superior to Stanford's for years now.
First you were bitching about not enough black kids being recruited now you're bitching about Petersen not recruiting with enough intensity. Seems like a flip flop.
I would like Petersen to be more aggressive on the trail as well but he's a stubborn old fuck who's not gonna change his ways. If anything he's becoming even more slow strategy and less aggressive as a recruiter than ever before. I am irritated with that as well. But we are in no way on track to being Stanford. Our last two recruiting classes are both better than any recruiting class Stanford has ever signed in the history of their program. Get a grip.
Right, Latu is better than Thibodeaux. Latu is the best prospect in the country.
Never said Latu was the best in the country. Point is, Thibodeaux definitely is not. He's far from the first overrated 5-star. Latu is bigger, just as fast and explosive, and more physical against the run.
I sat next to the family of a prominent Oregon player at the spring game. You should have heard some of the stuff they were saying about Kayvon Thibodeaux that their son told them, it confirms some of the rumors we had heard...
It was extremely complimentary of him as a person and football player.
Details or shut the fuck up.
Now don't take this too seriously, because their 4-star D-1 football player son isn't an expert on football talent like Ballz. It was something along the lines of no one on the team ever having seen anyone like Thibodeaux, incredible etc. The mother of another player took a break from two fisting Coors Light to echo that sentiment. Pretty fucking generic, I'm sorry.
In the "game" he had two "sacks," a big pressure, and knocked down a pass that would have been a completion. He was the most noticeable defensive player on the field. He was also the most emotional player on the sideline. I almost didn't want to type that because Ballz will doogslate that into Kayvon being an attention whore drama king. Which he probably is. But it takes about a second of looking at a live football play before he just pops out at you and you see what a real 5-star looks like.
Oregon is fucking doing the damn thing in recruiting. If we recruited just 50% more like Oregon, we'd be Clemson. Instead we are going to be Stanford. Woohoo.
I'm not sure whether Cristobal can really coach. I don't know what's going to happen when they have success, etc... but he understands what they understand in the SEC: it's about getting a roster stacked with talent. That is the first step.
They are doing that. I wish we'd gotten Chris Steele, Kayvon and whomever else. DJ Johnson, etc.
If Cristobal is an average coach, then they will probably end up looking like USC or UCLA under Mora or Ole Miss under Hugh Freeze I think is a good comparison point.
If he gets good OCs and DCs he can be a really good coach. If that's the case, they are going to be Clemson west and we are going to be Harbaugh/Early Shaw-era Stanford.
Every year it will get easier for them to get talent. They care about it and they value it. Last year they got 50% of USC's normal class and 50% of UCLA's normal class.
Anyone that thinks they aren't a threat with this amount of talent and the recruiting juggernaut they are is fucking stupid.
I'm not saying they are going to win Natties with Cristobal. But unless he's a tard, with this talent, they should be pretty good.
Can he sustain? Handle success? Etc... who fucking knows?
So many fucking ifs. We are not Stanford, we have already surpassed anything they have done recently.
How many times has Pete compared this program to Boise State? If that isn’t trying to be small world successful instead of a Clemson, USC, Miami, Bama like dynasty, not sure what to tell ya.
If Petersen wanted this to be BSU he would have stayed in Boise. Hth
Please, tell me again, how well did his time end at Boise State? Did they build upon the talent that Hawkins & Kellen Moore built or did they max out trying to under recruit and outsmart Nevada, Fresno State, and Air Force.
Fucking Lol. The talent Hawkins built? I can't tell if youre trolling or not. Hawkins had nothing to do with Petersen's multiple undefeated seasons and COY awards. His last two BSU teams werent his best, but that has shit to do with wanting to compete with the big boys on the biggest stage. He got to the fucking playoff in year 3.
Chris Petersen won his first COY award in his first year after Hawkins left..... but why actually do research you have revisionist history.
Oh got it, so Hawkins was going to do the same thing, right? Hawkins also would have gone undefeated 4 years later for his second COY award.
How about we look and see what Pete did at a P5 school versus how Hawkins did.
Are we fucking done here?
Building and acquiring talent are different from coaching. Pete is the best coach and talent developer in the country. Period.
I’m not saying Dan Hawkins is the fucking man, I’m saying Pete thinks he’s such a good coach he can make up for meh recruiting and we already saw how that played out. Pete’s first year with Hawkins players he goes undefeated and beats Adrian Peterson and OU. From then on he should’ve been able to build and recruit a team so talented it never lost to a WAC-MWC team again. The last year of Hawkins influences recruits was 2009 where Boise State went undefeated. After that he lost to a MWC opponent every year including two losses in 2013 that also saw Boise State get blown out by a coaching retard named Sark.
How come it’s so easy for us to assume Oregon is going to get these top Cali guys (Steele, Addison, Thibodeaux, Navarette, Mykael Wright, Pittman) but our first instinct as UDUB fans is to say “we have no shot”? There’s a fucking reason for that.
Dude, you are so fucking off base it's insane. Do you even follow UW recruiting closely? You are looking at Oregon recruits with envy and yet UW didn't want most of them. Some guys just aren't hard working enough. Some are too self-centered. Some want to be paid. Some don't have the grades. On top of UW passing on most of those guys, they also got recruits that they think are just as talented if not more talented players than them:
Latu > Thibodeaux
Puka Nacua and Taj Davis > Pittman
Kam Fab and Trent McDuffie > Steele and Wright
Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker > Addison
The only real guy you can bitch about who we legitimately wanted is Navarette and I'd bet my pay check he doesn't sign with Oregon anyways. The grass is not greener on the other side. They're not bringing in better talent than us.
Way to read one sentence about Oregon players they’ve gotten and completely base my feelings, thoughts, and entire life values off of it.
All I’m saying is that Pete doesn’t give a fuck about recruiting at a Bama, Clemson, Ohio State level because if he did he Boise State wouldn’t have fallen off like they did after Kellen. I don’t give a flying fuck about Oregon recruits vs our recruits. All I care about is recruiting SoCal and attacking recruiting with the same intensity that you attack a game. He didn’t at Boise State and from 2010 till now they are seen just like Stanford, great character team that can win 8-10 games every year with the ceiling of getting to and maybe winning a NY6 game, instead of being a dynasty who’s floor is a NY6 appearance.
Before this 2020 class debacle he was on track to be a lil better than Boise/Stanford, after losing Smalls, Botelho, Phillips and allowing this OKG narrative to continue, has us back on track to be Stanford. Period.
You're still making zero sense. He had no chance of ever recruiting at a high level at Boise and our recruiting has been far superior to Stanford's for years now.
First you were bitching about not enough black kids being recruited now you're bitching about Petersen not recruiting with enough intensity. Seems like a flip flop.
I would like Petersen to be more aggressive on the trail as well but he's a stubborn old fuck who's not gonna change his ways. If anything he's becoming even more slow strategy and less aggressive as a recruiter than ever before. I am irritated with that as well. But we are in no way on track to being Stanford. Our last two recruiting classes are both better than any recruiting class Stanford has ever signed in the history of their program. Get a grip.
Right, Latu is better than Thibodeaux. Latu is the best prospect in the country.
Never said Latu was the best in the country. Point is, Thibodeaux definitely is not. He's far from the first overrated 5-star. Latu is bigger, just as fast and explosive, and more physical against the run.
Thibodeaux has enrolled, played well, worked his ass off and been extremely engaged with the community. Any reason to believe he is overrated?
Oregon is fucking doing the damn thing in recruiting. If we recruited just 50% more like Oregon, we'd be Clemson. Instead we are going to be Stanford. Woohoo.
I'm not sure whether Cristobal can really coach. I don't know what's going to happen when they have success, etc... but he understands what they understand in the SEC: it's about getting a roster stacked with talent. That is the first step.
They are doing that. I wish we'd gotten Chris Steele, Kayvon and whomever else. DJ Johnson, etc.
If Cristobal is an average coach, then they will probably end up looking like USC or UCLA under Mora or Ole Miss under Hugh Freeze I think is a good comparison point.
If he gets good OCs and DCs he can be a really good coach. If that's the case, they are going to be Clemson west and we are going to be Harbaugh/Early Shaw-era Stanford.
Every year it will get easier for them to get talent. They care about it and they value it. Last year they got 50% of USC's normal class and 50% of UCLA's normal class.
Anyone that thinks they aren't a threat with this amount of talent and the recruiting juggernaut they are is fucking stupid.
I'm not saying they are going to win Natties with Cristobal. But unless he's a tard, with this talent, they should be pretty good.
Can he sustain? Handle success? Etc... who fucking knows?
So many fucking ifs. We are not Stanford, we have already surpassed anything they have done recently.
How many times has Pete compared this program to Boise State? If that isn’t trying to be small world successful instead of a Clemson, USC, Miami, Bama like dynasty, not sure what to tell ya.
If Petersen wanted this to be BSU he would have stayed in Boise. Hth
Please, tell me again, how well did his time end at Boise State? Did they build upon the talent that Hawkins & Kellen Moore built or did they max out trying to under recruit and outsmart Nevada, Fresno State, and Air Force.
Fucking Lol. The talent Hawkins built? I can't tell if youre trolling or not. Hawkins had nothing to do with Petersen's multiple undefeated seasons and COY awards. His last two BSU teams werent his best, but that has shit to do with wanting to compete with the big boys on the biggest stage. He got to the fucking playoff in year 3.
Chris Petersen won his first COY award in his first year after Hawkins left..... but why actually do research you have revisionist history.
Oh got it, so Hawkins was going to do the same thing, right? Hawkins also would have gone undefeated 4 years later for his second COY award.
How about we look and see what Pete did at a P5 school versus how Hawkins did.
Are we fucking done here?
Building and acquiring talent are different from coaching. Pete is the best coach and talent developer in the country. Period.
I’m not saying Dan Hawkins is the fucking man, I’m saying Pete thinks he’s such a good coach he can make up for meh recruiting and we already saw how that played out. Pete’s first year with Hawkins players he goes undefeated and beats Adrian Peterson and OU. From then on he should’ve been able to build and recruit a team so talented it never lost to a WAC-MWC team again. The last year of Hawkins influences recruits was 2009 where Boise State went undefeated. After that he lost to a MWC opponent every year including two losses in 2013 that also saw Boise State get blown out by a coaching retard named Sark.
How come it’s so easy for us to assume Oregon is going to get these top Cali guys (Steele, Addison, Thibodeaux, Navarette, Mykael Wright, Pittman) but our first instinct as UDUB fans is to say “we have no shot”? There’s a fucking reason for that.
Dude, you are so fucking off base it's insane. Do you even follow UW recruiting closely? You are looking at Oregon recruits with envy and yet UW didn't want most of them. Some guys just aren't hard working enough. Some are too self-centered. Some want to be paid. Some don't have the grades. On top of UW passing on most of those guys, they also got recruits that they think are just as talented if not more talented players than them:
Latu > Thibodeaux
Puka Nacua and Taj Davis > Pittman
Kam Fab and Trent McDuffie > Steele and Wright
Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker > Addison
The only real guy you can bitch about who we legitimately wanted is Navarette and I'd bet my pay check he doesn't sign with Oregon anyways. The grass is not greener on the other side. They're not bringing in better talent than us.
Way to read one sentence about Oregon players they’ve gotten and completely base my feelings, thoughts, and entire life values off of it.
All I’m saying is that Pete doesn’t give a fuck about recruiting at a Bama, Clemson, Ohio State level because if he did he Boise State wouldn’t have fallen off like they did after Kellen. I don’t give a flying fuck about Oregon recruits vs our recruits. All I care about is recruiting SoCal and attacking recruiting with the same intensity that you attack a game. He didn’t at Boise State and from 2010 till now they are seen just like Stanford, great character team that can win 8-10 games every year with the ceiling of getting to and maybe winning a NY6 game, instead of being a dynasty who’s floor is a NY6 appearance.
Before this 2020 class debacle he was on track to be a lil better than Boise/Stanford, after losing Smalls, Botelho, Phillips and allowing this OKG narrative to continue, has us back on track to be Stanford. Period.
You're still making zero sense. He had no chance of ever recruiting at a high level at Boise and our recruiting has been far superior to Stanford's for years now.
First you were bitching about not enough black kids being recruited now you're bitching about Petersen not recruiting with enough intensity. Seems like a flip flop.
I would like Petersen to be more aggressive on the trail as well but he's a stubborn old fuck who's not gonna change his ways. If anything he's becoming even more slow strategy and less aggressive as a recruiter than ever before. I am irritated with that as well. But we are in no way on track to being Stanford. Our last two recruiting classes are both better than any recruiting class Stanford has ever signed in the history of their program. Get a grip.
Right, Latu is better than Thibodeaux. Latu is the best prospect in the country.
Never said Latu was the best in the country. Point is, Thibodeaux definitely is not. He's far from the first overrated 5-star. Latu is bigger, just as fast and explosive, and more physical against the run.
Thibodeaux has enrolled, played well, worked his ass off and been extremely engaged with the community. Any reason to believe he is overrated?
Did I say he sucked? No. He's a 4-star. Not a 5-star and not the #1 recruit in the country. That means he was overrated. He doesn't really want to defend the run and be physical. More of a finesse player.
I'd be real happy and on my best behavior too if I received a bag of money to play for Oregon and was getting paid extra money on the side monthly as well.
Oregon is fucking doing the damn thing in recruiting. If we recruited just 50% more like Oregon, we'd be Clemson. Instead we are going to be Stanford. Woohoo.
I'm not sure whether Cristobal can really coach. I don't know what's going to happen when they have success, etc... but he understands what they understand in the SEC: it's about getting a roster stacked with talent. That is the first step.
They are doing that. I wish we'd gotten Chris Steele, Kayvon and whomever else. DJ Johnson, etc.
If Cristobal is an average coach, then they will probably end up looking like USC or UCLA under Mora or Ole Miss under Hugh Freeze I think is a good comparison point.
If he gets good OCs and DCs he can be a really good coach. If that's the case, they are going to be Clemson west and we are going to be Harbaugh/Early Shaw-era Stanford.
Every year it will get easier for them to get talent. They care about it and they value it. Last year they got 50% of USC's normal class and 50% of UCLA's normal class.
Anyone that thinks they aren't a threat with this amount of talent and the recruiting juggernaut they are is fucking stupid.
I'm not saying they are going to win Natties with Cristobal. But unless he's a tard, with this talent, they should be pretty good.
Can he sustain? Handle success? Etc... who fucking knows?
So many fucking ifs. We are not Stanford, we have already surpassed anything they have done recently.
How many times has Pete compared this program to Boise State? If that isn’t trying to be small world successful instead of a Clemson, USC, Miami, Bama like dynasty, not sure what to tell ya.
If Petersen wanted this to be BSU he would have stayed in Boise. Hth
Please, tell me again, how well did his time end at Boise State? Did they build upon the talent that Hawkins & Kellen Moore built or did they max out trying to under recruit and outsmart Nevada, Fresno State, and Air Force.
Fucking Lol. The talent Hawkins built? I can't tell if youre trolling or not. Hawkins had nothing to do with Petersen's multiple undefeated seasons and COY awards. His last two BSU teams werent his best, but that has shit to do with wanting to compete with the big boys on the biggest stage. He got to the fucking playoff in year 3.
Chris Petersen won his first COY award in his first year after Hawkins left..... but why actually do research you have revisionist history.
Oh got it, so Hawkins was going to do the same thing, right? Hawkins also would have gone undefeated 4 years later for his second COY award.
How about we look and see what Pete did at a P5 school versus how Hawkins did.
Are we fucking done here?
Building and acquiring talent are different from coaching. Pete is the best coach and talent developer in the country. Period.
I’m not saying Dan Hawkins is the fucking man, I’m saying Pete thinks he’s such a good coach he can make up for meh recruiting and we already saw how that played out. Pete’s first year with Hawkins players he goes undefeated and beats Adrian Peterson and OU. From then on he should’ve been able to build and recruit a team so talented it never lost to a WAC-MWC team again. The last year of Hawkins influences recruits was 2009 where Boise State went undefeated. After that he lost to a MWC opponent every year including two losses in 2013 that also saw Boise State get blown out by a coaching retard named Sark.
How come it’s so easy for us to assume Oregon is going to get these top Cali guys (Steele, Addison, Thibodeaux, Navarette, Mykael Wright, Pittman) but our first instinct as UDUB fans is to say “we have no shot”? There’s a fucking reason for that.
Dude, you are so fucking off base it's insane. Do you even follow UW recruiting closely? You are looking at Oregon recruits with envy and yet UW didn't want most of them. Some guys just aren't hard working enough. Some are too self-centered. Some want to be paid. Some don't have the grades. On top of UW passing on most of those guys, they also got recruits that they think are just as talented if not more talented players than them:
Latu > Thibodeaux
Puka Nacua and Taj Davis > Pittman
Kam Fab and Trent McDuffie > Steele and Wright
Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker > Addison
The only real guy you can bitch about who we legitimately wanted is Navarette and I'd bet my pay check he doesn't sign with Oregon anyways. The grass is not greener on the other side. They're not bringing in better talent than us.
Way to read one sentence about Oregon players they’ve gotten and completely base my feelings, thoughts, and entire life values off of it.
All I’m saying is that Pete doesn’t give a fuck about recruiting at a Bama, Clemson, Ohio State level because if he did he Boise State wouldn’t have fallen off like they did after Kellen. I don’t give a flying fuck about Oregon recruits vs our recruits. All I care about is recruiting SoCal and attacking recruiting with the same intensity that you attack a game. He didn’t at Boise State and from 2010 till now they are seen just like Stanford, great character team that can win 8-10 games every year with the ceiling of getting to and maybe winning a NY6 game, instead of being a dynasty who’s floor is a NY6 appearance.
Before this 2020 class debacle he was on track to be a lil better than Boise/Stanford, after losing Smalls, Botelho, Phillips and allowing this OKG narrative to continue, has us back on track to be Stanford. Period.
You're still making zero sense. He had no chance of ever recruiting at a high level at Boise and our recruiting has been far superior to Stanford's for years now.
First you were bitching about not enough black kids being recruited now you're bitching about Petersen not recruiting with enough intensity. Seems like a flip flop.
I would like Petersen to be more aggressive on the trail as well but he's a stubborn old fuck who's not gonna change his ways. If anything he's becoming even more slow strategy and less aggressive as a recruiter than ever before. I am irritated with that as well. But we are in no way on track to being Stanford. Our last two recruiting classes are both better than any recruiting class Stanford has ever signed in the history of their program. Get a grip.
Right, Latu is better than Thibodeaux. Latu is the best prospect in the country.
Never said Latu was the best in the country. Point is, Thibodeaux definitely is not. He's far from the first overrated 5-star. Latu is bigger, just as fast and explosive, and more physical against the run.
I sat next to the family of a prominent Oregon player at the spring game. You should have heard some of the stuff they were saying about Kayvon Thibodeaux that their son told them, it confirms some of the rumors we had heard...
It was extremely complimentary of him as a person and football player.
Details or shut the fuck up.
Now don't take this too seriously, because their 4-star D-1 football player son isn't an expert on football talent like Ballz. It was something along the lines of no one on the team ever having seen anyone like Thibodeaux, incredible etc. The mother of another player took a break from two fisting Coors Light to echo that sentiment. Pretty fucking generic, I'm sorry.
In the "game" he had two "sacks," a big pressure, and knocked down a pass that would have been a completion. He was the most noticeable defensive player on the field. He was also the most emotional player on the sideline. I almost didn't want to type that because Ballz will doogslate that into Kayvon being an attention whore drama king. Which he probably is. But it takes about a second of looking at a live football play before he just pops out at you and you see what a real 5-star looks like.
So he's been on campus for like a month, has gone through zero adversity, but people just KNOW he's a saint and works hard. The fact that the kid has been put front and center by Cristobal as a spokesperson for Oregon side by side with Herbert before he's even played his first snap of college football tells me all I need to know about the kid. He's a total attention whore diva. He has everything he wants right now. Money and the spotlight. No reason for him to act out right now. But when Oregon starts losing games he'll show his true colors and start pointing fingers at teammates and yelling at coaches and doing shit that divas do.
You won't hear an Oregon parent say a bad word about anybody. Cristobal has them all working as his cheerleaders and pseudo-recruiters for the program. Nobody close to the program is gonna say anything that's not positive about Oregon. It's an echo chamber until the losses start happening and it's time to start questioning the coaching staff's competence.
Oregon is fucking doing the damn thing in recruiting. If we recruited just 50% more like Oregon, we'd be Clemson. Instead we are going to be Stanford. Woohoo.
I'm not sure whether Cristobal can really coach. I don't know what's going to happen when they have success, etc... but he understands what they understand in the SEC: it's about getting a roster stacked with talent. That is the first step.
They are doing that. I wish we'd gotten Chris Steele, Kayvon and whomever else. DJ Johnson, etc.
If Cristobal is an average coach, then they will probably end up looking like USC or UCLA under Mora or Ole Miss under Hugh Freeze I think is a good comparison point.
If he gets good OCs and DCs he can be a really good coach. If that's the case, they are going to be Clemson west and we are going to be Harbaugh/Early Shaw-era Stanford.
Every year it will get easier for them to get talent. They care about it and they value it. Last year they got 50% of USC's normal class and 50% of UCLA's normal class.
Anyone that thinks they aren't a threat with this amount of talent and the recruiting juggernaut they are is fucking stupid.
I'm not saying they are going to win Natties with Cristobal. But unless he's a tard, with this talent, they should be pretty good.
Can he sustain? Handle success? Etc... who fucking knows?
So many fucking ifs. We are not Stanford, we have already surpassed anything they have done recently.
How many times has Pete compared this program to Boise State? If that isn’t trying to be small world successful instead of a Clemson, USC, Miami, Bama like dynasty, not sure what to tell ya.
If Petersen wanted this to be BSU he would have stayed in Boise. Hth
Please, tell me again, how well did his time end at Boise State? Did they build upon the talent that Hawkins & Kellen Moore built or did they max out trying to under recruit and outsmart Nevada, Fresno State, and Air Force.
Fucking Lol. The talent Hawkins built? I can't tell if youre trolling or not. Hawkins had nothing to do with Petersen's multiple undefeated seasons and COY awards. His last two BSU teams werent his best, but that has shit to do with wanting to compete with the big boys on the biggest stage. He got to the fucking playoff in year 3.
Chris Petersen won his first COY award in his first year after Hawkins left..... but why actually do research you have revisionist history.
Oh got it, so Hawkins was going to do the same thing, right? Hawkins also would have gone undefeated 4 years later for his second COY award.
How about we look and see what Pete did at a P5 school versus how Hawkins did.
Are we fucking done here?
Building and acquiring talent are different from coaching. Pete is the best coach and talent developer in the country. Period.
I’m not saying Dan Hawkins is the fucking man, I’m saying Pete thinks he’s such a good coach he can make up for meh recruiting and we already saw how that played out. Pete’s first year with Hawkins players he goes undefeated and beats Adrian Peterson and OU. From then on he should’ve been able to build and recruit a team so talented it never lost to a WAC-MWC team again. The last year of Hawkins influences recruits was 2009 where Boise State went undefeated. After that he lost to a MWC opponent every year including two losses in 2013 that also saw Boise State get blown out by a coaching retard named Sark.
How come it’s so easy for us to assume Oregon is going to get these top Cali guys (Steele, Addison, Thibodeaux, Navarette, Mykael Wright, Pittman) but our first instinct as UDUB fans is to say “we have no shot”? There’s a fucking reason for that.
Dude, you are so fucking off base it's insane. Do you even follow UW recruiting closely? You are looking at Oregon recruits with envy and yet UW didn't want most of them. Some guys just aren't hard working enough. Some are too self-centered. Some want to be paid. Some don't have the grades. On top of UW passing on most of those guys, they also got recruits that they think are just as talented if not more talented players than them:
Latu > Thibodeaux
Puka Nacua and Taj Davis > Pittman
Kam Fab and Trent McDuffie > Steele and Wright
Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker > Addison
The only real guy you can bitch about who we legitimately wanted is Navarette and I'd bet my pay check he doesn't sign with Oregon anyways. The grass is not greener on the other side. They're not bringing in better talent than us.
Way to read one sentence about Oregon players they’ve gotten and completely base my feelings, thoughts, and entire life values off of it.
All I’m saying is that Pete doesn’t give a fuck about recruiting at a Bama, Clemson, Ohio State level because if he did he Boise State wouldn’t have fallen off like they did after Kellen. I don’t give a flying fuck about Oregon recruits vs our recruits. All I care about is recruiting SoCal and attacking recruiting with the same intensity that you attack a game. He didn’t at Boise State and from 2010 till now they are seen just like Stanford, great character team that can win 8-10 games every year with the ceiling of getting to and maybe winning a NY6 game, instead of being a dynasty who’s floor is a NY6 appearance.
Before this 2020 class debacle he was on track to be a lil better than Boise/Stanford, after losing Smalls, Botelho, Phillips and allowing this OKG narrative to continue, has us back on track to be Stanford. Period.
You're still making zero sense. He had no chance of ever recruiting at a high level at Boise and our recruiting has been far superior to Stanford's for years now.
First you were bitching about not enough black kids being recruited now you're bitching about Petersen not recruiting with enough intensity. Seems like a flip flop.
I would like Petersen to be more aggressive on the trail as well but he's a stubborn old fuck who's not gonna change his ways. If anything he's becoming even more slow strategy and less aggressive as a recruiter than ever before. I am irritated with that as well. But we are in no way on track to being Stanford. Our last two recruiting classes are both better than any recruiting class Stanford has ever signed in the history of their program. Get a grip.
Right, Latu is better than Thibodeaux. Latu is the best prospect in the country.
Never said Latu was the best in the country. Point is, Thibodeaux definitely is not. He's far from the first overrated 5-star. Latu is bigger, just as fast and explosive, and more physical against the run.
Thibodeaux has enrolled, played well, worked his ass off and been extremely engaged with the community. Any reason to believe he is overrated?
What are you guys even bitching about? This thread turned into an open discussion among a lot of different posters. That's what the fuck this board is for. To discuss and debate shit. Fucking ignore it if you aren't interested in the discussion instead of making snarky comments or gif posts as if it's a burden on your miserable lives that people are discussing shit on a message board. That's kinda what this board is for you stupid cunts.
You’re evaluating a kid based on malicious internet rumors and not what you can observe. Thibodeaux is an extrovert and sanguine but there is no evidence he would turn into a locker-room cancer. He also wants to go into broadcasting and wants to be in front of the camera. As much as I dislike UW, I have never disparaged an individual player or pretended to know their character on limited info. You might want to take a break and get perspective.
Also, Latu posted a 5.11 in the 40 yard dash. Let’s hope he’s better in run support than KT. They are going to be two different players.
You’re evaluating a kid based on malicious internet rumors and not what you can observe. Thibodeaux is an extrovert and sanguine but there is no evidence he would turn into a locker-room cancer. He also wants to go into broadcasting and wants to be in front of the camera. As much as I dislike UW, I have never disparaged an individual player or pretended to know their character on limited info. You might want to take a break and get perspective.
Also, Latu posted a 5.11 in the 40 yard dash. Let’s hope he’s better in run support than KT. They are going to be two different players.
He was disliked enough by UW and USC coaches to not be recruited by them. When Johnny Nansen doesn't like recruiting a kid, that's pretty strong evidence he's a douche. Never disparaged a UW player? I seriously doubt that. It was all over Oregon boards that somehow tiny ass Myles Bryant injured Penei Sewell on purpose last season. Many Oregon fans disparaged Browning for "the point". I'm sure you were one of them. Get off your high horse bro.
Latu caught deep passes while playing WR for his high school team at 270 pounds. He's a freak athlete. Film > 40 time.
Oregon is fucking doing the damn thing in recruiting. If we recruited just 50% more like Oregon, we'd be Clemson. Instead we are going to be Stanford. Woohoo.
I'm not sure whether Cristobal can really coach. I don't know what's going to happen when they have success, etc... but he understands what they understand in the SEC: it's about getting a roster stacked with talent. That is the first step.
They are doing that. I wish we'd gotten Chris Steele, Kayvon and whomever else. DJ Johnson, etc.
If Cristobal is an average coach, then they will probably end up looking like USC or UCLA under Mora or Ole Miss under Hugh Freeze I think is a good comparison point.
If he gets good OCs and DCs he can be a really good coach. If that's the case, they are going to be Clemson west and we are going to be Harbaugh/Early Shaw-era Stanford.
Every year it will get easier for them to get talent. They care about it and they value it. Last year they got 50% of USC's normal class and 50% of UCLA's normal class.
Anyone that thinks they aren't a threat with this amount of talent and the recruiting juggernaut they are is fucking stupid.
I'm not saying they are going to win Natties with Cristobal. But unless he's a tard, with this talent, they should be pretty good.
Can he sustain? Handle success? Etc... who fucking knows?
So many fucking ifs. We are not Stanford, we have already surpassed anything they have done recently.
How many times has Pete compared this program to Boise State? If that isn’t trying to be small world successful instead of a Clemson, USC, Miami, Bama like dynasty, not sure what to tell ya.
If Petersen wanted this to be BSU he would have stayed in Boise. Hth
Please, tell me again, how well did his time end at Boise State? Did they build upon the talent that Hawkins & Kellen Moore built or did they max out trying to under recruit and outsmart Nevada, Fresno State, and Air Force.
Fucking Lol. The talent Hawkins built? I can't tell if youre trolling or not. Hawkins had nothing to do with Petersen's multiple undefeated seasons and COY awards. His last two BSU teams werent his best, but that has shit to do with wanting to compete with the big boys on the biggest stage. He got to the fucking playoff in year 3.
Chris Petersen won his first COY award in his first year after Hawkins left..... but why actually do research you have revisionist history.
Oh got it, so Hawkins was going to do the same thing, right? Hawkins also would have gone undefeated 4 years later for his second COY award.
How about we look and see what Pete did at a P5 school versus how Hawkins did.
Are we fucking done here?
Building and acquiring talent are different from coaching. Pete is the best coach and talent developer in the country. Period.
I’m not saying Dan Hawkins is the fucking man, I’m saying Pete thinks he’s such a good coach he can make up for meh recruiting and we already saw how that played out. Pete’s first year with Hawkins players he goes undefeated and beats Adrian Peterson and OU. From then on he should’ve been able to build and recruit a team so talented it never lost to a WAC-MWC team again. The last year of Hawkins influences recruits was 2009 where Boise State went undefeated. After that he lost to a MWC opponent every year including two losses in 2013 that also saw Boise State get blown out by a coaching retard named Sark.
How come it’s so easy for us to assume Oregon is going to get these top Cali guys (Steele, Addison, Thibodeaux, Navarette, Mykael Wright, Pittman) but our first instinct as UDUB fans is to say “we have no shot”? There’s a fucking reason for that.
Dude, you are so fucking off base it's insane. Do you even follow UW recruiting closely? You are looking at Oregon recruits with envy and yet UW didn't want most of them. Some guys just aren't hard working enough. Some are too self-centered. Some want to be paid. Some don't have the grades. On top of UW passing on most of those guys, they also got recruits that they think are just as talented if not more talented players than them:
Latu > Thibodeaux
Puka Nacua and Taj Davis > Pittman
Kam Fab and Trent McDuffie > Steele and Wright
Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker > Addison
The only real guy you can bitch about who we legitimately wanted is Navarette and I'd bet my pay check he doesn't sign with Oregon anyways. The grass is not greener on the other side. They're not bringing in better talent than us.
Way to read one sentence about Oregon players they’ve gotten and completely base my feelings, thoughts, and entire life values off of it.
All I’m saying is that Pete doesn’t give a fuck about recruiting at a Bama, Clemson, Ohio State level because if he did he Boise State wouldn’t have fallen off like they did after Kellen. I don’t give a flying fuck about Oregon recruits vs our recruits. All I care about is recruiting SoCal and attacking recruiting with the same intensity that you attack a game. He didn’t at Boise State and from 2010 till now they are seen just like Stanford, great character team that can win 8-10 games every year with the ceiling of getting to and maybe winning a NY6 game, instead of being a dynasty who’s floor is a NY6 appearance.
Before this 2020 class debacle he was on track to be a lil better than Boise/Stanford, after losing Smalls, Botelho, Phillips and allowing this OKG narrative to continue, has us back on track to be Stanford. Period.
You're still making zero sense. He had no chance of ever recruiting at a high level at Boise and our recruiting has been far superior to Stanford's for years now.
First you were bitching about not enough black kids being recruited now you're bitching about Petersen not recruiting with enough intensity. Seems like a flip flop.
I would like Petersen to be more aggressive on the trail as well but he's a stubborn old fuck who's not gonna change his ways. If anything he's becoming even more slow strategy and less aggressive as a recruiter than ever before. I am irritated with that as well. But we are in no way on track to being Stanford. Our last two recruiting classes are both better than any recruiting class Stanford has ever signed in the history of their program. Get a grip.
Right, Latu is better than Thibodeaux. Latu is the best prospect in the country.
Never said Latu was the best in the country. Point is, Thibodeaux definitely is not. He's far from the first overrated 5-star. Latu is bigger, just as fast and explosive, and more physical against the run.
Thibodeaux has enrolled, played well, worked his ass off and been extremely engaged with the community. Any reason to believe he is overrated?
@lawsandl He's on your team. You're going to defend him until he does something that makes Oregon look bad or transfers or turns out to suck. The hot girl is a diva bitch but at least she's hot right?
At some point you are just going to have to accept that Oregon is no longer recruiting "men of Oregon". Cristobal has sold your programs soul for the sake of star ratings and there will be consequences down the line. Could be player arrests. Could be rape accusations. Could be NCAA violations. Whatever it is, it'll happen. You don't get away with recruiting like the $EC in the liberal West coast without some shit hitting the fan eventually.
@lawsandl He's on your team. You're going to defend him until he does something that makes Oregon look bad or transfers or turns out to suck. The hot girl is a diva bitch but at least she's hot right?
I want some extroverted and sanguine players that will jaw a bit. Especially ones that are good and stay out of trouble. Steele and Thibodeaux will be welcomed by me in that regard.
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In the "game" he had two "sacks," a big pressure, and knocked down a pass that would have been a completion. He was the most noticeable defensive player on the field. He was also the most emotional player on the sideline. I almost didn't want to type that because Ballz will doogslate that into Kayvon being an attention whore drama king. Which he probably is. But it takes about a second of looking at a live football play before he just pops out at you and you see what a real 5-star looks like.
I'd be real happy and on my best behavior too if I received a bag of money to play for Oregon and was getting paid extra money on the side monthly as well.
You won't hear an Oregon parent say a bad word about anybody. Cristobal has them all working as his cheerleaders and pseudo-recruiters for the program. Nobody close to the program is gonna say anything that's not positive about Oregon. It's an echo chamber until the losses start happening and it's time to start questioning the coaching staff's competence.
Also, Latu posted a 5.11 in the 40 yard dash. Let’s hope he’s better in run support than KT. They are going to be two different players.
Latu caught deep passes while playing WR for his high school team at 270 pounds. He's a freak athlete. Film > 40 time.
At some point you are just going to have to accept that Oregon is no longer recruiting "men of Oregon". Cristobal has sold your programs soul for the sake of star ratings and there will be consequences down the line. Could be player arrests. Could be rape accusations. Could be NCAA violations. Whatever it is, it'll happen. You don't get away with recruiting like the $EC in the liberal West coast without some shit hitting the fan eventually.