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lawsandl said:

That’s all we choose to remember? You just argued with me that the time is now for Oregon. I said Oregon could be 9-3 this upcoming season and be miles ahead.

You choose to not listen.

9-3 are pretty low expectations for a veteran team with two highly rated recruiting classes and a 1st round NFL QB. What's wrong? Not sold on Cristobal?

HillsboroDuck

lawsandl said:

That’s all we choose to remember? You just argued with me that the time is now for Oregon. I said Oregon could be 9-3 this upcoming season and be miles ahead.

You choose to not listen.

"Could be 9-3"?!?!?

I miss OREGON dammit! FUCK!

lawsandl

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

That’s all we choose to remember? You just argued with me that the time is now for Oregon. I said Oregon could be 9-3 this upcoming season and be miles ahead.

You choose to not listen.

9-3 are pretty low expectations for a veteran team with two highly rated recruiting classes and a 1st round NFL QB. What's wrong? Not sold on Cristobal?

I think the culture eroded more under Helfrich and Pete had a better starting point at UW. Also, Cristobal has more to prove than Pete. So, yes, I am not sold yet.

There is also reason to believe he can be a great coach.

1) he took arguably the worse program in the FBS and made them a conference winner.
2) winning eventually comes down to the talent.
3) there are signs of a culture shift (i.e., weight training participation, reduction in penalties, we saw the team win the last three after losing 3 of 4).

The bowl game was an abortion for the casual fan but showed me the team is becoming resilient. Also, closing out ASU while struggling at the end was a sign to me of mental toughness. That was a game they lose a year before.

My biggest concern is Arroyo. He’s never coordinated a good offense. If the offense has fits and starts again, Cristobal needs to let him go. That being said, I love the progression of Shough that I am seeing. Insiders that have proven to be realist believe in Arroyo. I also saw a very crisp spring game. Will that translate well on Saturday’s, we’ll see.

This is what you call a tempered approach.

RaceBannon

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

That’s all we choose to remember? You just argued with me that the time is now for Oregon. I said Oregon could be 9-3 this upcoming season and be miles ahead.

You choose to not listen.

9-3 are pretty low expectations for a veteran team with two highly rated recruiting classes and a 1st round NFL QB. What's wrong? Not sold on Cristobal?

I think the culture eroded more under Helfrich and Pete had a better starting point at UW. Also, Cristobal has more to prove than Pete. So, yes, I am not sold yet.

There is also reason to believe he can be a great coach.

1) he took arguably the worse program in the FBS and made them a conference winner.
2) winning eventually comes down to the talent.
3) there are signs of a culture shift (i.e., weight training participation, reduction in penalties, we saw the team win the last three after losing 3 of 4).

The bowl game was an abortion for the casual fan but showed me the team is becoming resilient. Also, closing out ASU while struggling at the end was a sign to me of mental toughness. That was a game they lose a year before.

My biggest concern is Arroyo. He’s never coordinated a good offense. If the offense has fits and starts again, Cristobal needs to let him go. That being said, I love the progression of Shough that I am seeing. Insiders that have proven to be realist believe in Arroyo. I also saw a very crisp spring game. Will that translate well on Saturday’s, we’ll see.

This is what you call a tempered approach.

That's probably not true at all. Helf was the OC on the legendary semi final winning Duck team then took over as head coach. I'm sure he sucked but the guts of the Kelly machine were still there

Sark took over from Owen 12 and was an alcoholic 7 win coach who left an unbalanced roster with gaping holes in it.

I'm sure neither situation was ideal but most coaches would rather take the Oregon job under those circumstances

The wild card is the year of Taggert

lawsandl

RaceBannon said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

That’s all we choose to remember? You just argued with me that the time is now for Oregon. I said Oregon could be 9-3 this upcoming season and be miles ahead.

You choose to not listen.

9-3 are pretty low expectations for a veteran team with two highly rated recruiting classes and a 1st round NFL QB. What's wrong? Not sold on Cristobal?

I think the culture eroded more under Helfrich and Pete had a better starting point at UW. Also, Cristobal has more to prove than Pete. So, yes, I am not sold yet.

There is also reason to believe he can be a great coach.

1) he took arguably the worse program in the FBS and made them a conference winner.
2) winning eventually comes down to the talent.
3) there are signs of a culture shift (i.e., weight training participation, reduction in penalties, we saw the team win the last three after losing 3 of 4).

The bowl game was an abortion for the casual fan but showed me the team is becoming resilient. Also, closing out ASU while struggling at the end was a sign to me of mental toughness. That was a game they lose a year before.

My biggest concern is Arroyo. He’s never coordinated a good offense. If the offense has fits and starts again, Cristobal needs to let him go. That being said, I love the progression of Shough that I am seeing. Insiders that have proven to be realist believe in Arroyo. I also saw a very crisp spring game. Will that translate well on Saturday’s, we’ll see.

This is what you call a tempered approach.

That's probably not true at all. Helf was the OC on the legendary semi final winning Duck team then took over as head coach. I'm sure he sucked but the guts of the Kelly machine were still there

Sark took over from Owen 12 and was an alcoholic 7 win coach who left an unbalanced roster with gaping holes in it.

I'm sure neither situation was ideal but most coaches would rather take the Oregon job under those circumstances

The wild card is the year of Taggert

You’re correct talking about Helfrich’s starting point which is not what I said. Cristobal took over a team that had three years of Helf and one of Taggart. Chip’s winning culture was long gone.

Also, the gaping holes left by Helf’s recruiting were bigger than a two bit whore. Sark left a lot of good pieces. He left for what he considered was a better job. He was offered that job after turning around UW.

RaceBannon

lawsandl said:

RaceBannon said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

That’s all we choose to remember? You just argued with me that the time is now for Oregon. I said Oregon could be 9-3 this upcoming season and be miles ahead.

You choose to not listen.

9-3 are pretty low expectations for a veteran team with two highly rated recruiting classes and a 1st round NFL QB. What's wrong? Not sold on Cristobal?

I think the culture eroded more under Helfrich and Pete had a better starting point at UW. Also, Cristobal has more to prove than Pete. So, yes, I am not sold yet.

There is also reason to believe he can be a great coach.

1) he took arguably the worse program in the FBS and made them a conference winner.
2) winning eventually comes down to the talent.
3) there are signs of a culture shift (i.e., weight training participation, reduction in penalties, we saw the team win the last three after losing 3 of 4).

The bowl game was an abortion for the casual fan but showed me the team is becoming resilient. Also, closing out ASU while struggling at the end was a sign to me of mental toughness. That was a game they lose a year before.

My biggest concern is Arroyo. He’s never coordinated a good offense. If the offense has fits and starts again, Cristobal needs to let him go. That being said, I love the progression of Shough that I am seeing. Insiders that have proven to be realist believe in Arroyo. I also saw a very crisp spring game. Will that translate well on Saturday’s, we’ll see.

This is what you call a tempered approach.

That's probably not true at all. Helf was the OC on the legendary semi final winning Duck team then took over as head coach. I'm sure he sucked but the guts of the Kelly machine were still there

Sark took over from Owen 12 and was an alcoholic 7 win coach who left an unbalanced roster with gaping holes in it.

I'm sure neither situation was ideal but most coaches would rather take the Oregon job under those circumstances

The wild card is the year of Taggert

You’re correct talking about Helfrich’s starting point which is not what I said. Cristobal took over a team that had three years of Helf and one of Taggart. Chip’s winning culture was long gone.

Also, the gaping holes left by Helf’s recruiting were bigger than a two bit whore. Sark left a lot of good pieces. He left for what he considered was a better job. He was offered that job after turning around UW.

St Haden wasn't really a Saint. He was fucking stupid

One of Helf's years was a playoff team

You guys loved Taggert until you didn't and Cristobal was on his staff

Oh and FSU was impressed enough with Taggert to hire him to a better job

lawsandl

RaceBannon said:

lawsandl said:

RaceBannon said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

That’s all we choose to remember? You just argued with me that the time is now for Oregon. I said Oregon could be 9-3 this upcoming season and be miles ahead.

You choose to not listen.

9-3 are pretty low expectations for a veteran team with two highly rated recruiting classes and a 1st round NFL QB. What's wrong? Not sold on Cristobal?

I think the culture eroded more under Helfrich and Pete had a better starting point at UW. Also, Cristobal has more to prove than Pete. So, yes, I am not sold yet.

There is also reason to believe he can be a great coach.

1) he took arguably the worse program in the FBS and made them a conference winner.
2) winning eventually comes down to the talent.
3) there are signs of a culture shift (i.e., weight training participation, reduction in penalties, we saw the team win the last three after losing 3 of 4).

The bowl game was an abortion for the casual fan but showed me the team is becoming resilient. Also, closing out ASU while struggling at the end was a sign to me of mental toughness. That was a game they lose a year before.

My biggest concern is Arroyo. He’s never coordinated a good offense. If the offense has fits and starts again, Cristobal needs to let him go. That being said, I love the progression of Shough that I am seeing. Insiders that have proven to be realist believe in Arroyo. I also saw a very crisp spring game. Will that translate well on Saturday’s, we’ll see.

This is what you call a tempered approach.

That's probably not true at all. Helf was the OC on the legendary semi final winning Duck team then took over as head coach. I'm sure he sucked but the guts of the Kelly machine were still there

Sark took over from Owen 12 and was an alcoholic 7 win coach who left an unbalanced roster with gaping holes in it.

I'm sure neither situation was ideal but most coaches would rather take the Oregon job under those circumstances

The wild card is the year of Taggert

You’re correct talking about Helfrich’s starting point which is not what I said. Cristobal took over a team that had three years of Helf and one of Taggart. Chip’s winning culture was long gone.

Also, the gaping holes left by Helf’s recruiting were bigger than a two bit whore. Sark left a lot of good pieces. He left for what he considered was a better job. He was offered that job after turning around UW.

St Haden wasn't really a Saint. He was fucking stupid

One of Helf's years was a playoff team

You guys loved Taggert until you didn't and Cristobal was on his staff

Oh and FSU was impressed enough with Taggert to hire him to a better job

I think Taggart did some things well. However, him being at Oregon for one year was a set back.

Helf took us Oregon to 4-7 with a championship roster. Go look at his classes.

HillsboroDuck

lawsandl said:

RaceBannon said:

lawsandl said:

RaceBannon said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

That’s all we choose to remember? You just argued with me that the time is now for Oregon. I said Oregon could be 9-3 this upcoming season and be miles ahead.

You choose to not listen.

9-3 are pretty low expectations for a veteran team with two highly rated recruiting classes and a 1st round NFL QB. What's wrong? Not sold on Cristobal?

I think the culture eroded more under Helfrich and Pete had a better starting point at UW. Also, Cristobal has more to prove than Pete. So, yes, I am not sold yet.

There is also reason to believe he can be a great coach.

1) he took arguably the worse program in the FBS and made them a conference winner.
2) winning eventually comes down to the talent.
3) there are signs of a culture shift (i.e., weight training participation, reduction in penalties, we saw the team win the last three after losing 3 of 4).

The bowl game was an abortion for the casual fan but showed me the team is becoming resilient. Also, closing out ASU while struggling at the end was a sign to me of mental toughness. That was a game they lose a year before.

My biggest concern is Arroyo. He’s never coordinated a good offense. If the offense has fits and starts again, Cristobal needs to let him go. That being said, I love the progression of Shough that I am seeing. Insiders that have proven to be realist believe in Arroyo. I also saw a very crisp spring game. Will that translate well on Saturday’s, we’ll see.

This is what you call a tempered approach.

That's probably not true at all. Helf was the OC on the legendary semi final winning Duck team then took over as head coach. I'm sure he sucked but the guts of the Kelly machine were still there

Sark took over from Owen 12 and was an alcoholic 7 win coach who left an unbalanced roster with gaping holes in it.

I'm sure neither situation was ideal but most coaches would rather take the Oregon job under those circumstances

The wild card is the year of Taggert

You’re correct talking about Helfrich’s starting point which is not what I said. Cristobal took over a team that had three years of Helf and one of Taggart. Chip’s winning culture was long gone.

Also, the gaping holes left by Helf’s recruiting were bigger than a two bit whore. Sark left a lot of good pieces. He left for what he considered was a better job. He was offered that job after turning around UW.

St Haden wasn't really a Saint. He was fucking stupid

One of Helf's years was a playoff team

You guys loved Taggert until you didn't and Cristobal was on his staff

Oh and FSU was impressed enough with Taggert to hire him to a better job

I think Taggart did some things well. However, him being at Oregon for one year was a set back.

Helf took us Oregon to 4-7 with a championship roster. Go look at his classes.

Cristobal took FIU to 3-9.

lawsandl

HillsboroDuck said:

lawsandl said:

RaceBannon said:

lawsandl said:

RaceBannon said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

That’s all we choose to remember? You just argued with me that the time is now for Oregon. I said Oregon could be 9-3 this upcoming season and be miles ahead.

You choose to not listen.

9-3 are pretty low expectations for a veteran team with two highly rated recruiting classes and a 1st round NFL QB. What's wrong? Not sold on Cristobal?

I think the culture eroded more under Helfrich and Pete had a better starting point at UW. Also, Cristobal has more to prove than Pete. So, yes, I am not sold yet.

There is also reason to believe he can be a great coach.

1) he took arguably the worse program in the FBS and made them a conference winner.
2) winning eventually comes down to the talent.
3) there are signs of a culture shift (i.e., weight training participation, reduction in penalties, we saw the team win the last three after losing 3 of 4).

The bowl game was an abortion for the casual fan but showed me the team is becoming resilient. Also, closing out ASU while struggling at the end was a sign to me of mental toughness. That was a game they lose a year before.

My biggest concern is Arroyo. He’s never coordinated a good offense. If the offense has fits and starts again, Cristobal needs to let him go. That being said, I love the progression of Shough that I am seeing. Insiders that have proven to be realist believe in Arroyo. I also saw a very crisp spring game. Will that translate well on Saturday’s, we’ll see.

This is what you call a tempered approach.

That's probably not true at all. Helf was the OC on the legendary semi final winning Duck team then took over as head coach. I'm sure he sucked but the guts of the Kelly machine were still there

Sark took over from Owen 12 and was an alcoholic 7 win coach who left an unbalanced roster with gaping holes in it.

I'm sure neither situation was ideal but most coaches would rather take the Oregon job under those circumstances

The wild card is the year of Taggert

You’re correct talking about Helfrich’s starting point which is not what I said. Cristobal took over a team that had three years of Helf and one of Taggart. Chip’s winning culture was long gone.

Also, the gaping holes left by Helf’s recruiting were bigger than a two bit whore. Sark left a lot of good pieces. He left for what he considered was a better job. He was offered that job after turning around UW.

St Haden wasn't really a Saint. He was fucking stupid

One of Helf's years was a playoff team

You guys loved Taggert until you didn't and Cristobal was on his staff

Oh and FSU was impressed enough with Taggert to hire him to a better job

I think Taggart did some things well. However, him being at Oregon for one year was a set back.

Helf took us Oregon to 4-7 with a championship roster. Go look at his classes.

Cristobal took FIU to 3-9.

It’s a concern. There are some reasons if you look further. Most fans from the South think his firing was foolish.

RaceBannon

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