Cooper McDonald, 2020 3* LB, Justin (Northwest), TX (Committed)
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The only problem I've ever had with the Texas push is the optics of giving out a bunch of early offers there before we offer similarly talented west coast kids, especially WA kids. There's no reason that Julien Simon and Troy Franklin should've been offered *after* the dozen or so TX kids
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I don't think I get it. When we are talking resources, is it time, money or both? How do teams like Oregon and Stanford afford the resources when they recruit on a much wider scale than UW? Do they really have that much more pull than UW that recruits will come to them rather than their staff traveling all over the US?
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Other than the willie pay to play era I don’t think Oregon was doing much in Texas. Stanford is a national brand and can get kids to come to them.
We’d need to be Clemson it to get kids effortlessly. If it’s the same kid in Compton or Houston I think the Compton kid takes less resources, independent of other competition etc.
I’m not against it, I just think we’ll get better ROI in LA especially with USC and UCLA so down. We’re looking for kids Texas doesn’t want while we’re taking kids USC would die for.
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Texas is very limited in its ability to “level up” UW football.whatshouldicareabout said:If we want to level-up, we should be in Texas.
And given that Texas operates at a different pace than the Pacific states, these battles are usually over by the spring when we know whether they're interested or not. Might be why we were late with local offers during this spring cycle, but the coaching staff will adapt.
Texas is the place UW may be able to go and grab underrated/under-recruited players like Levi and McDonald. But it’s entirely dependent on the UW staff scouting an overlooked player better than any other southern/SEC/BIG12 program in the nation.
You don’t level up a program by finding 3 star diamonds no one else wanted, and UW isn’t going to win any major recruiting battle in Texas for a high end kid with no west coast connections. -
I generally agree with your assessment, but Levi is definitely an exception, not a supporting example. He had offers from every single power in the region except Tejas. Offers included ATM, Baylor, TCU, TT, Oklahoma, Okie Lite, not to mention offers outside the region from Michigan, Georgia, Miami, Stanford, The Squwaad. Hell, he had a fucking Illinois offer!Houhusky said:
Texas is very limited in its ability to “level up” UW football.whatshouldicareabout said:If we want to level-up, we should be in Texas.
And given that Texas operates at a different pace than the Pacific states, these battles are usually over by the spring when we know whether they're interested or not. Might be why we were late with local offers during this spring cycle, but the coaching staff will adapt.
Texas is the place UW may be able to go and grab underrated/under-recruited players like Levi and McDonald. But it’s entirely dependent on the UW staff scouting an overlooked player better than any other southern/SEC/BIG12 program in the nation.
You don’t level up a program by finding 3 star diamonds no one else wanted, and UW isn’t going to win any major recruiting battle in Texas for a high end kid with no west coast connections.
Levi was not some underrated, under-recruited kid. He had legit offers all over the country and played high school ball at some out-of-the-way eight-man squaad school called Allen High School. -
There is a better ROI for kids in CA than TX, but the argument is that there are only so many level-up kids in CA that we might as well look elsewhere. Our recruiting strategy has changed such that we're only recruiting the top kids in CA so that we have more time to invest in other areas where we might level up.LoneStarDawg said:Other than the willie pay to play era I don’t think Oregon was doing much in Texas. Stanford is a national brand and can get kids to come to them.
We’d need to be Clemson it to get kids effortlessly. If it’s the same kid in Compton or Houston I think the Compton kid takes less resources, independent of other competition etc.
I’m not against it, I just think we’ll get better ROI in LA especially with USC and UCLA so down. We’re looking for kids Texas doesn’t want while we’re taking kids USC would die for.
For example, in 2015 we have 70 offers to kids in CA. In 2016, it was 59. Last year we had 44. This year is 30, and our class is getting close to full. -
This won't age well.Houhusky said:
Texas is very limited in its ability to “level up” UW football.whatshouldicareabout said:If we want to level-up, we should be in Texas.
And given that Texas operates at a different pace than the Pacific states, these battles are usually over by the spring when we know whether they're interested or not. Might be why we were late with local offers during this spring cycle, but the coaching staff will adapt.
Texas is the place UW may be able to go and grab underrated/under-recruited players like Levi and McDonald. But it’s entirely dependent on the UW staff scouting an overlooked player better than any other southern/SEC/BIG12 program in the nation.
You don’t level up a program by finding 3 star diamonds no one else wanted, and UW isn’t going to win any major recruiting battle in Texas for a high end kid with no west coast connections. -
We should be offering the high end West Coast guys at the same time ... looks like we’re addressing this with future classesNEsnake12 said:The only problem I've ever had with the Texas push is the optics of giving out a bunch of early offers there before we offer similarly talented west coast kids, especially WA kids. There's no reason that Julien Simon and Troy Franklin should've been offered *after* the dozen or so TX kids
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Stanford has an elite education ... it’s not a national brand.LoneStarDawg said:Other than the willie pay to play era I don’t think Oregon was doing much in Texas. Stanford is a national brand and can get kids to come to them.
We’d need to be Clemson it to get kids effortlessly. If it’s the same kid in Compton or Houston I think the Compton kid takes less resources, independent of other competition etc.
I’m not against it, I just think we’ll get better ROI in LA especially with USC and UCLA so down. We’re looking for kids Texas doesn’t want while we’re taking kids USC would die for.
Stanford wins kids that prioritize playing school as much of more than they prioritize football.
If you prioritize NFL Development, winning conference titles, and competing for CFP berths then Washington kicks Stanford’s ass -
Figured I'd support my claim that his stature fits the mold of ILB just fine.DoogCourics said:
He has already announced he will be moving to ILB for his Senior season, so the tape this fall will tell us how outraged we all must be.DoogCourics said:
I’m willing to LIPO and withhold judgment until after the senior season hudl comes out.Swaye said:Also, not impressed. It's July and we are taking some try hard from Texas? I'm fine with this offer in November when all the top guys have told the dynamic duo of Kwat and Shitbird to fuck off, but Plan B guys in July is a bad look. At least it's not Plan C? FML
Herbig and Botelho were major fuck ups. We? got beat out for guys that should have been easy gets. Let’s just get that out of the way first and foremost.
As for this kid, his ranking doesn’t bother me. I think it’s actually pretty low and Wiltfong mentioned it should be higher. Likely .85 or .86. That would be right in line with Ah You and Tuputala, who we all love. The ranking doesn’t mean shit. The tape does.
His Junior tape isn’t amazing. But he has good size that matches what has been recruited at ILB the last two classes with guys like Sirmon/Calvert/Tuputala/Heimuli, hits like a truck and dudes go down quick, he has decent quickness and speed, and has a nose for turnovers and takes them to the house when he gets them.
This is not Clemson and Bama Level. Obviously. I wanted Herbig and Botelho. I want Smalls and Banks. But this kid was identified early. He committed the July before his Senior year, not January after it.
We didn’t hate Tafisi, Tuputala, or Ah You because their ranking sucked.
I’m waiting until his senior film comes out. If he hasn’t improved or doesn’t wow me, I’ll shit on him then.
Also, IIRC the average ILB this last draft class was 6'1". So while he may not be 6'3" with the length an edge guy needs, he doesn't need to be. He fits the same body mold of the ILB the coaches have gotten the last 2 classes.
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The projected position for 2020 three-star prospect and Washington Huskies commit Cooper McDonald has been changed from outside linebacker to inside linebacker on 247Sports.
I got a chance to see McDonald in person this past Friday, when he manned an inside spot for Justin (Texas) Northwest in its 40-0 home rout of Fort Worth (Texas) Southwest. The 6-foot-3, 220-pound McDonald, who's playing through a hand injury that requires a club on his right hand/wrist, proved to be a consistent tackle-to-tackle gap-minder with a physical approach to the linebacker position.
The in-person evaluation -- along with insight from Northwest head coach Bill Poe -- suggests that he is a better fit for an inside linebacker role at the next level, rather than the previous outside projection. Playing inside will allow him to concentrate more on defending the run and pursuing laterally and downhill, rather than playing in space more and matching up in coverage more often with backs and tight ends. He will obviously be asked to do those things at times playing inside, but it shouldn't be with the frequency he would see outside.
Additionally, McDonald is believed to be an inside linebacker take for the Washington coaching staff, so this position projection change aligns with where we expect McDonald to play once he's with the Huskies.
McDonald's better fit inside also results in a move up grade-wise, per 247Sports, which elevates him to an 86 three-star rating at an inside linebacker spot. That moves him into the top 40 inside linebackers nationally at No. 36 at his new projected position for the 2020 class in the 247Sports rankings, where he also moved up almost 15 spots in the state of Texas rankings to No. 120 overall. The industry-generated 247Sports Composite now puts McDonald at No. 40 nationally among 2020 inside linebackers and No. 115 overall in the Lone Star State. -
Racist BD2W guys can suck discus. -
You can't be racist against White people in the US.Emoterman said:
Racist BD2W guys can suck discus.
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This included a jump from #991 to #805 overall on 247.insinceredawg said:The projected position for 2020 three-star prospect and Washington Huskies commit Cooper McDonald has been changed from outside linebacker to inside linebacker on 247Sports.
I got a chance to see McDonald in person this past Friday, when he manned an inside spot for Justin (Texas) Northwest in its 40-0 home rout of Fort Worth (Texas) Southwest. The 6-foot-3, 220-pound McDonald, who's playing through a hand injury that requires a club on his right hand/wrist, proved to be a consistent tackle-to-tackle gap-minder with a physical approach to the linebacker position.
The in-person evaluation -- along with insight from Northwest head coach Bill Poe -- suggests that he is a better fit for an inside linebacker role at the next level, rather than the previous outside projection. Playing inside will allow him to concentrate more on defending the run and pursuing laterally and downhill, rather than playing in space more and matching up in coverage more often with backs and tight ends. He will obviously be asked to do those things at times playing inside, but it shouldn't be with the frequency he would see outside.
Additionally, McDonald is believed to be an inside linebacker take for the Washington coaching staff, so this position projection change aligns with where we expect McDonald to play once he's with the Huskies.
McDonald's better fit inside also results in a move up grade-wise, per 247Sports, which elevates him to an 86 three-star rating at an inside linebacker spot. That moves him into the top 40 inside linebackers nationally at No. 36 at his new projected position for the 2020 class in the 247Sports rankings, where he also moved up almost 15 spots in the state of Texas rankings to No. 120 overall. The industry-generated 247Sports Composite now puts McDonald at No. 40 nationally among 2020 inside linebackers and No. 115 overall in the Lone Star State. -
This guy will be our next "proof that Pete doesnt get it" followed a year later by being all pac 12
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BBK 2.0bananasnblondes said:This guy will be our next "proof that Pete doesnt get it" followed a year later by being all pac 12
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with a redshirt hopefullyFirePete said:
BBK 2.0bananasnblondes said:This guy will be our next "proof that Pete doesnt get it" followed a year later by being all pac 12
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@DoogCourics Even though you are literally a piece of shit, I can’t tell you how much more I like you for not being a douche bag chest beater. Since you didn’t, I will.
On at least two occasions you mentioned this move and why it makes sense. The last post in this thread until today was July 28th and you mentioned ideal size for drafted players by position.
I give you the BTallz award for being right and not being a douche nozzle aidz spreader.
I also hope my kind words and stupid made up award (named by combining our two most recent aidz bans) repays my debt so I no longer have to daily clean your “spooky ghost” room. -
Wut??dirtysouwfdawg said:@DoogCourics Even though you are literally a piece of shit, I can’t tell you how much more I like you for not being a douche bag chest beater. Since you didn’t, I will.
On at least two occasions you mentioned this move and why it makes sense. The last post in this thread until today was July 28th and you mentioned ideal size for drafted players by position.
I give you the BTallz award for being right and not being a douche nozzle aidz spreader.
I also hope my kind words and stupid made up award (named by combining our two most recent aidz bans) repays my debt so I no longer have to daily clean your “spooky ghost” room. -
Ruthann! Get the hose! Looks like @dirtydrugsdawg got into the meth again!dirtysouwfdawg said:@DoogCourics Even though you are literally a piece of shit, I can’t tell you how much more I like you for not being a douche bag chest beater. Since you didn’t, I will.
On at least two occasions you mentioned this move and why it makes sense. The last post in this thread until today was July 28th and you mentioned ideal size for drafted players by position.
I give you the BTallz award for being right and not being a douche nozzle aidz spreader.
I also hope my kind words and stupid made up award (named by combining our two most recent aidz bans) repays my debt so I no longer have to daily clean your “spooky ghost” room. -
It’s a dangerous game to automatically hate a player because he’s not a 4 star with big schools after him. The ratings are just percentages. People forget that.bananasnblondes said:This guy will be our next "proof that Pete doesnt get it" followed a year later by being all pac 12
Pettis, Gaines, Dissly, Sample, Sidney Jones, Nick Harris, BBK. We’ve gotten plenty of good players that were lowly rated. The coaches have been good evaluators. The Texas TBS guy on 247 said he was a lot better than his ranking too. -
RoadDawg55 said:
It’s a dangerous game to automatically hate a player because he’s not a 4 star with big schools after him. The ratings are just percentages. People forget that.bananasnblondes said:This guy will be our next "proof that Pete doesnt get it" followed a year later by being all pac 12
Pettis, Gaines, Dissly, Sample, Sidney Jones, Nick Harris, BBK. We’ve gotten plenty of good players that were lowly rated. The coaches have been good evaluators. The Texas TBS guy on 247 said he was a lot better than his ranking too.
People like to forget about Discobolus. -
dirtysouwfdawg said:
@DoogCourics Even though you are literally a piece of shit, I can’t tell you how much more I like you for not being a douche bag chest beater. Since you didn’t, I will.
On at least two occasions you mentioned this move and why it makes sense. The last post in this thread until today was July 28th and you mentioned ideal size for drafted players by position.
I give you the BTallz award for being right and not being a douche nozzle aidz spreader.
I also hope my kind words and stupid made up award (named by combining our two most recent aidz bans) repays my debt so I no longer have to daily clean your “spooky ghost” room.
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McDonald lacks Tafisi's lateral quickness and that's not good
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Ft Worth HS’s generally suck at football ... I should look at his schedule to figure out what legit programs he plays
ILB is the best fit for him -
It sucks that McDonald privated his hudl, really wanted to see his film at ILB this year
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Just dm him and ask if you can see his privatesNeighbor2972 said:It sucks that McDonald privated his hudl, really wanted to see his film at ILB this year
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He'll love the weather and the UW shit linebacker playGrundleStiltzkin said: -
I hope this kid is good
