Would someone supply the statistics of how the super assistant/coach-in-waiting who everyone wants to see in the succession plan?
I'm hearing that's a great formula for success.
Worked at Oregon with Chip Kelly. As long as the super successful assistant has an alpha personality and is not a little pussy like Helfrich or complete incompetent like Helton, it's a great way to go. It's very rare in college football to have the staff continuity and loyalty that Oregon used to have and UW has now. We want our best assistants who are okay with being assistants forever, to stay here forever. That only happens if UW makes an in-house hire after Petersen and with Lake being the young superstar who's an alpha, a winner, extremely competent teacher, developer, talent evaluator, and recruiter, he would be the best guy for the job. We don't want to be like Bama fans looking at Dabo Sweeney with envy thinking "that was our guy, he's a stud, we should have kept him here and made him the head coach in waiting". Petersen followed by Lake would have Oregon and the rest of the conference fucked for a long, long time.
Good points but good luck with the Lake scenario. Lake ain't Pete...far from
He's better than Petersen. Petersen was a whizz kid as an OC and yet as a head coach, his offenses have mostly sucked post-Kellen Moore. Lake is a superstar DC who's defenses as a head coach would continue to dominate here. Lake is also a better recruiter than Petersen. Petersen's strengths are his focus on fundamentals, decision making when hiring assistant coaches, being a good guy to work for which promotes staff continuity and loyalty, and he's good at evaluating talent and decent at recruiting. Lake could do all of that but take recruiting to a higher level. If Jimmy was head coach, we might have guys like Drake Jackson, Stephon Wright, Joe Ngata, and Jeremiah Martin on the roster. Imagine Jimmy's recruiting ability spread out across all positions instead of just DB's. It's a tantalizing thought.
So Pete's eras of excellence also match the core competencies of a modern college football corch. Chintriguing. I'll be watching these developments closely.
Would someone supply the statistics of how the super assistant/coach-in-waiting who everyone wants to see in the succession plan?
I'm hearing that's a great formula for success.
Worked at Oregon with Chip Kelly. As long as the super successful assistant has an alpha personality and is not a little pussy like Helfrich or complete incompetent like Helton, it's a great way to go. It's very rare in college football to have the staff continuity and loyalty that Oregon used to have and UW has now. We want our best assistants who are okay with being assistants forever, to stay here forever. That only happens if UW makes an in-house hire after Petersen and with Lake being the young superstar who's an alpha, a winner, extremely competent teacher, developer, talent evaluator, and recruiter, he would be the best guy for the job. We don't want to be like Bama fans looking at Dabo Sweeney with envy thinking "that was our guy, he's a stud, we should have kept him here and made him the head coach in waiting". Petersen followed by Lake would have Oregon and the rest of the conference fucked for a long, long time.
The stats are abysmal. There have more elite OCs and DCs who hit their heads against the Peter Principle than you can shake a stick at.
The truth is, for the vast majority of people, there is a point too high in their profession.
Yeah well, most assistants that become head coaches aren't nearly as good as Jimmy Lake. Plus, every great head coach was once an assistant. Worry about your own assistant coach who's a shit head coach in Cristobal.
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This response is you in a nutshell. You can never concede an inch of ground no matter what it is or how obvious.
It makes you look like you just started following the game 4 years ago.
The comment had nothing to do with Oregon but of course they live in your head.
Yes all great HCs were assistants at some point. That's well within the "no shit" category of responses.
But many of the great ones were good HCs somewhere before they got to the show.
Don't be so defensive ballz. It's a bad look. Again the stats are abysmal and many legendary assistants who were just as well respected as your man crush DB guru flamed out miserably doing the head gig. It is a much different job.
All great coaches were once assistants.
Um, I think I addressed that point. Awfully early to be going full retard Corky.
I’m not a Jimmy Lake for pres guy. How about we just have the guy who is there now get his head out of his ass?
Let me know if this still holds true after our Alamo Bowl loss to Oklahoma State this December.
OSU wont be in Alamo bowl. But yes, we just might. Oregon will win conference
Oregon won’t win the conference Pup. That’s stupid.
They absolutely will win North if Stanford doesnt. And I'm wait and see on them for a few games. Have no clue if Irwin and TE's can pick up slack losing Whiteside. Stanford will be a lot better.
Oregon should win conference outright. They're going to be very good. I think we can beat them, but that's about it in conference
Fuck Off
Haie, it's a message forum. If your dick was just twice the size of your response you might have a date tonight. Ever been on one? Lofl
I’m not a Jimmy Lake for pres guy. How about we just have the guy who is there now get his head out of his ass?
although i want to agree with you, i think Pete hates some of the key parts of the job such that he will never do them (or get his head out of his ass in your vernacular). I fear the fun parts of the program (Spring game, access to practices, etc) and upscaling the recruiting tactics will never change because he doesn't care to do them.
He very well may choose to never change in those regards. He can keep the current trajectory and retire whenever he wants and we'll still build a statue for him. The bottom line is that the only pressure that can cause Pete to pivot in a way that ascends this program to an elite level will have to come from within. He has us by the balls whether you like it or not.
And everyone needs to shut the fuck up about Jimmy Lake. He certainly wouldn't be the first all-world assistant coach to fall flat on his face. A vast majority of head coaches are abject failures. Lake is destined to be in that same camp until he's not.
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pumpy is pumpy.
@Ballz went full retard as always.
Blackeye for @haie and @backthepack chinning/upvoting this too.
He is yet another exhibit in "it's the head coach"
Petersen was good enough to get the best out of guys that needed him more than he needed them
I think Kwat has done less with more at Texas but look at his head coach. Others may not agree
Huff remains a riddle wrapped inside an enigma. Didn't do great under Pete. Did horrible under Lake. Resurrected under DeBoer
DeBoer > Petersen?