Bernie is an unprincipled mandarin
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I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.SFGbob said:
2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.YellowSnow said:
Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.SFGbob said:He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.
There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.
Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.
So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.
Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?
How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.
No 3/4 ton Crew Cab truck.SFGbob said:
A diesel 4Runner? I didn't even know they made a diesel. And mine was actually a 1995, I corrected it.MikeDamone said:
I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.SFGbob said:
2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.YellowSnow said:
Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.SFGbob said:He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.
There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.
Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.
So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.
Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?
How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games. -
Now that's a rig. You use it for work or just fun?MikeDamone said:
I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.SFGbob said:
2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.YellowSnow said:
Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.SFGbob said:He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.
There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.
Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.
So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.
Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?
How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.
No 3/4 Crew Cab truck.SFGbob said:
A diesel 4Runner? I didn't even know they made a diesel. And mine was actually a 1995, I corrected it.MikeDamone said:
I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.SFGbob said:
2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.YellowSnow said:
Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.SFGbob said:He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.
There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.
Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.
So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.
Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?
How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games. -
If he were smart he’d voluntarily pay the tax he is proposing, give 10% to charity and tell his critics to go fuck themselves. I’d think the cost would be more than worth it if he really wants to be president and get such transformative polices though. But he doesn’t and won’t. Because he’s a dumb shit and when the rubber means the road it’s socialism for thee, but not for me. Bumbling old fool.HHusky said:
I can't believe Bernie's not better prepared for this.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yet H still can't see it.GrundleStiltzkin said:I heard this clip on Adam Carolla Show this morning so I went to get the full thing in context. Go to about 7:15 in the video.
https://youtu.be/p4ozAACcc8I
I applaud Bernie for making some money.
I fully support him paying the lowest effective tax rate possible.
Low charitable giving is somewhat consistent with socialist ideals.
But when he as a socialist candidate for president throws the question "Why don't you voluntarily pay 52% on your income?" back on the interviewer like that, shows he's full of shit. It's his proposal, not hers. He is completely full of shit. And not a very good politician or socialist. Can you imagine the political win he'd have if he voluntarily paid at the 52% rate. But he doesn't want to. Because that's his money. What a fucknut.
He's almost as dumb as those asking why people favoring higher taxes don't just pay more.
(My charitable giving is more generous too. Maybe I'll throw my hat in the ring.) -
Never have had a commute longer 6.5 miles in / out and now I work from home mostly. My wife's car (she works remote too) is 3.5 years old and only has 16,000 miles.SFGbob said:
1995 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.YellowSnow said:
Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.SFGbob said:He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.
There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.
Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.
So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.
Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?
How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games. -
Pussy. I'd a figured you for a 1 ton fella.MikeDamone said:
I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.SFGbob said:
2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.YellowSnow said:
Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.SFGbob said:He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.
There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.
Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.
So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.
Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?
How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games. -
Fact is, Larry David does a better Bernie than Bernie himself.MikeDamone said:
If he were smart he’d voluntarily pay the tax he is proposing, give 10% to charity and tell his critics to go fuck themselves. I’d think the cost would be more than worth it if he really wants to be president and get such transformative polices though. But he doesn’t and won’t. Because he’s a dumb shit and when the rubber means the roads it’s socialism for thee, but not for me. Bumbling old fool.HHusky said:
I can't believe Bernie's not better prepared for this.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yet H still can't see it.GrundleStiltzkin said:I heard this clip on Adam Carolla Show this morning so I went to get the full thing in context. Go to about 7:15 in the video.
https://youtu.be/p4ozAACcc8I
I applaud Bernie for making some money.
I fully support him paying the lowest effective tax rate possible.
Low charitable giving is somewhat consistent with socialist ideals.
But when he as a socialist candidate for president throws the question "Why don't you voluntarily pay 52% on your income?" back on the interviewer like that, shows he's full of shit. It's his proposal, not hers. He is completely full of shit. And not a very good politician or socialist. Can you imagine the political win he'd have if he voluntarily paid at the 52% rate. But he doesn't want to. Because that's his money. What a fucknut.
He's almost as dumb as those asking why people favoring higher taxes don't just pay more.
(My charitable giving is more generous too. Maybe I'll throw my hat in the ring.) -
Only fun. I barley work. And when I do I certainly don’t need a truck.SFGbob said:
Now that's a rig. You use it for work or just fun?MikeDamone said:
I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.SFGbob said:
2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.YellowSnow said:
Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.SFGbob said:He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.
There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.
Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.
So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.
Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?
How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.
No 3/4 Crew Cab truck.SFGbob said:
A diesel 4Runner? I didn't even know they made a diesel. And mine was actually a 1995, I corrected it.MikeDamone said:
I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.SFGbob said:
2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.YellowSnow said:
Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.SFGbob said:He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.
There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.
Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.
So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.
Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?
How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games. -
In THIS economy?YellowSnow said:
Pussy. I'd a figured you for a 1 ton fella.MikeDamone said:
I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.SFGbob said:
2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.YellowSnow said:
Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.SFGbob said:He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.
There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.
Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.
So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.
Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?
How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games. -
They are damn good cars. You'll easily get 250K on it. I like the old body style better than the newer versions. This wasn't my car but its the exact same color with the same markingsYellowSnow said:
Never have had a commute longer 6.5 miles in / out and now I work from home mostly. My wife's car (she works remote too) is 3.5 years old and only has 16,000 miles.SFGbob said:
1995 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.YellowSnow said:
Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.SFGbob said:He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.
There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.
Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.
So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.
Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?
How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.
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Well, my #1 Trump lovin', retired engineer know-it-all, father-in-law tells me modern diesels are shit anyway unless you use them for long hauls only. Sounds like the guvmint regs have fucked them all up.MikeDamone said:
In THIS economy?YellowSnow said:
Pussy. I'd a figured you for a 1 ton fella.MikeDamone said:
I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.SFGbob said:
2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.YellowSnow said:
Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.SFGbob said:He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.
There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.
Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.
So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.
Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?
How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.



