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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,396 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.

    There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.

    So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.

    Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.

    Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?


  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.

    There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.

    So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.

    You sound poor and whiney. Hawaii is fucking awesome and relaxing. You should try it.

    And if you truly do make over $128k (I very highly doubt it), and you can't save for retirement, drive a new car every few years, and go on week long vacations, you are doing something very very wrong.
    Make as much money as you like and spend it as you like just don't come crying to me about how you don't have enough money for your retirement.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    2001400ex said:

    What he is doing wrong is not living in a wasteland flipping burgers

    Good thing I'm not either. However I'm able to max my 401k, max my IRA (can't do Roth), go on a week long vacation every year (this year cruise to Belize), and get a new car every 3 years. So I guess I'm not poor and whiney. Just lazy.
    And this fucking Kunt's favorite dodge is talk about how others have poor reading comprehension.

  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    edited April 2019

    SFGbob said:

    He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.

    There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.

    So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.

    Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.

    Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?


    1995 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.

    How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.

  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.

    There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.

    So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.

    Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.

    Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?


    2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.

    How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.

    I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.

    There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.

    So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.

    Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.

    Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?


    2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.

    How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.

    I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.
    A diesel 4Runner? I didn't even know they made a diesel. And mine was actually a 1995, I corrected it.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,755

    I heard this clip on Adam Carolla Show this morning so I went to get the full thing in context. Go to about 7:15 in the video.
    https://youtu.be/p4ozAACcc8I

    I applaud Bernie for making some money.
    I fully support him paying the lowest effective tax rate possible.
    Low charitable giving is somewhat consistent with socialist ideals.

    But when he as a socialist candidate for president throws the question "Why don't you voluntarily pay 52% on your income?" back on the interviewer like that, shows he's full of shit. It's his proposal, not hers. He is completely full of shit. And not a very good politician or socialist. Can you imagine the political win he'd have if he voluntarily paid at the 52% rate. But he doesn't want to. Because that's his money. What a fucknut.

    Yet H still can't see it.
    I can't believe Bernie's not better prepared for this.

    He's almost as dumb as those asking why people favoring higher taxes don't just pay more.

    (My charitable giving is more generous too. Maybe I'll throw my hat in the ring.)
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    HHusky said:

    I heard this clip on Adam Carolla Show this morning so I went to get the full thing in context. Go to about 7:15 in the video.
    https://youtu.be/p4ozAACcc8I

    I applaud Bernie for making some money.
    I fully support him paying the lowest effective tax rate possible.
    Low charitable giving is somewhat consistent with socialist ideals.

    But when he as a socialist candidate for president throws the question "Why don't you voluntarily pay 52% on your income?" back on the interviewer like that, shows he's full of shit. It's his proposal, not hers. He is completely full of shit. And not a very good politician or socialist. Can you imagine the political win he'd have if he voluntarily paid at the 52% rate. But he doesn't want to. Because that's his money. What a fucknut.

    Yet H still can't see it.
    I can't believe Bernie's not better prepared for this.

    He's almost as dumb as those asking why people favoring higher taxes don't just pay more.

    (My charitable giving is more generous too. Maybe I'll throw my hat in the ring.)
    I realize we're breaking down a lot of barriers now with who we'll vote for when it comes to Presidential candidates but do you really believe that America is ready to elect it's first trannie President?
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited April 2019
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.

    There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.

    So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.

    Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.

    Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?


    2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.

    How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.

    I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.

    There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.

    So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.

    Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.

    Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?


    2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.

    How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.

    I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.
    A diesel 4Runner? I didn't even know they made a diesel. And mine was actually a 1995, I corrected it.
    No 3/4 ton Crew Cab truck.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.

    There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.

    So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.

    Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.

    Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?


    2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.

    How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.

    I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.

    There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.

    So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.

    Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.

    Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?


    2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.

    How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.

    I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.
    A diesel 4Runner? I didn't even know they made a diesel. And mine was actually a 1995, I corrected it.
    No 3/4 Crew Cab truck.
    Now that's a rig. You use it for work or just fun?
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,396 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.

    There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.

    So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.

    Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.

    Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?


    1995 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.

    How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.

    Never have had a commute longer 6.5 miles in / out and now I work from home mostly. My wife's car (she works remote too) is 3.5 years old and only has 16,000 miles.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,396 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.

    There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.

    So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.

    Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.

    Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?


    2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.

    How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.

    I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.
    Pussy. I'd a figured you for a 1 ton fella.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.

    There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.

    So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.

    Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.

    Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?


    2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.

    How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.

    I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.

    There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.

    So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.

    Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.

    Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?


    2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.

    How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.

    I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.
    A diesel 4Runner? I didn't even know they made a diesel. And mine was actually a 1995, I corrected it.
    No 3/4 Crew Cab truck.
    Now that's a rig. You use it for work or just fun?
    Only fun. I barley work. And when I do I certainly don’t need a truck.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.

    There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.

    So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.

    Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.

    Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?


    1995 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.

    How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.

    Never have had a commute longer 6.5 miles in / out and now I work from home mostly. My wife's car (she works remote too) is 3.5 years old and only has 16,000 miles.
    They are damn good cars. You'll easily get 250K on it. I like the old body style better than the newer versions. This wasn't my car but its the exact same color with the same markings


  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,396 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    He also talks about taking the cap off of Social Security taxes, so that we can give more money to retirees.

    There are people I know who are my age who make more money than I make, some make less but they have little to no money saved for their retirement. Many of these people have been on fabulous family vacations, and many of them drive really nice cars, far nicer than any car I've owned, yet they've saved next to nothing for their retirement years.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay more in SS taxes so that I can subsidize these people? I've intentionally never purchased a new car. Every car I've owned I've driven for at least 10 years, some of them longer. I had a 4Runner that finally had to get rid of that I had for 20 years, as a family we haven't done the weeks long vacation to Hawaii or Europe because it's too damn expensive to take a family of 5 on that kind of vacation and I'd rather put that money toward my retirement and the kids college.

    So why is it that people like me, who have done without and saved are going to punished in order to subsidize the people who didn't save? Fuck that and fuck Bernie.

    Chinned cause we're 4 Runner Bros!! I've got a 2006 (4th Gen) with only 90K on it. That fucker's gonna go, at least, another 10 years.

    Don't see that many 20 to 30 year old Jeeps out on the road now do ya @Swaye ?


    2005 350K miles. Never had any major engine work. Would have kept it but I needed a new master brake cylinder and Toyota no longer makes them. I was going to get one from a wrecking yard but no garage would put it in for me because of the liability issues, fucking lawyers, so I was either going to have to do it myself or get some pirate garage to do it for me. Wife talked me into getting rid of it. It was originally her car before we had even met and older than all of my kids.

    How the hell did you put so few miles on your 2006? Obviously not your primary car. I retired the 4Runner from primary car about 5 years before I got rid of it but I loved that car so much I still drove it all the time, mostly hauling kids to baseball games.

    I have a 2016 3/4 ton diesel with 8,000 on it.
    Pussy. I'd a figured you for a 1 ton fella.
    In THIS economy?
    Well, my #1 Trump lovin', retired engineer know-it-all, father-in-law tells me modern diesels are shit anyway unless you use them for long hauls only. Sounds like the guvmint regs have fucked them all up.
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