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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,561 Standard Supporter

    “DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”

    How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.

    I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data though
    let me introduce you to ice cores
    I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.

    So how do they prove man made?
    My intent wasnt to start the 500,000th climate thread. My border take is that we should invest in a sensor wall for more remote parts of the border, staff up, and beef up security/detection capabilites at ports of entry. I’m not agaisnt spending for border security, but there are more effective ways to spend than a physical wall imo.
    The new tactic is swarms or hundreds even more going all at once. It's a wall or minefields and machine guns. I'm all in for minefields and machine guns. We already have them. It's good training for the troops and ammo is cheap.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804

    “DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”

    How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.

    I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data though
    let me introduce you to ice cores
    I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.

    So how do they prove man made?
    My intent wasnt to start the 500,000th climate thread. My border take is that we should invest in a sensor wall for more remote parts of the border, staff up, and beef up security/detection capabilites at ports of entry. I’m not agaisnt spending for border security, but there are more effective ways to spend than a physical wall imo.
    A wall is a yuge piece of the pie
    Only small sections close to parts of the border you can actually cross, which walls already exist in. There are massive stretches of hostile land where it would be a waste and youd be better off using sensors to detect the few people suicidal enough to try and cross there.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sounds like the current protection of the border is doing a good job.

    Must you always be a whiny little cunt, Hondo? The evidence says "yes."
    Gotta say though - 28.5K WTFs is impressive.

    Consistent.

    Let's say I have my fan club.
    Fun to add the 5th WTF to that post.
    Imagine caring about this.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,435 Founders Club

    “DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”

    How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.

    I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data though
    let me introduce you to ice cores
    I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.

    So how do they prove man made?
    My intent wasnt to start the 500,000th climate thread. My border take is that we should invest in a sensor wall for more remote parts of the border, staff up, and beef up security/detection capabilites at ports of entry. I’m not agaisnt spending for border security, but there are more effective ways to spend than a physical wall imo.
    A wall is a yuge piece of the pie
    Only small sections close to parts of the border you can actually cross, which walls already exist in. There are massive stretches of hostile land where it would be a waste and youd be better off using sensors to detect the few people suicidal enough to try and cross there.
    No there is quite a bit of area that still needs the kind of wall that is working where built. Its not wall or nothing or other things but no wall - its all of it including walls. Walls send a message that you aren't welcome and to get around them you have a good chance of dying before the electronic drones come blow you up
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,435 Founders Club
    No one had a an issue with walls before Trump

    That is inarguable

    Well, the idiots like Beto who want to tear down walls may have but let's stick to rational people
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    Sledog said:

    “DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”

    How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.

    I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data though
    let me introduce you to ice cores
    I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.

    So how do they prove man made?
    My intent wasnt to start the 500,000th climate thread. My border take is that we should invest in a sensor wall for more remote parts of the border, staff up, and beef up security/detection capabilites at ports of entry. I’m not agaisnt spending for border security, but there are more effective ways to spend than a physical wall imo.
    The new tactic is swarms or hundreds even more going all at once. It's a wall or minefields and machine guns. I'm all in for minefields and machine guns. We already have them. It's good training for the troops and ammo is cheap.
    Im fine building walls at ports of entry, we already do.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804

    “DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”

    How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.

    I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data though
    let me introduce you to ice cores
    I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.

    So how do they prove man made?
    My intent wasnt to start the 500,000th climate thread. My border take is that we should invest in a sensor wall for more remote parts of the border, staff up, and beef up security/detection capabilites at ports of entry. I’m not agaisnt spending for border security, but there are more effective ways to spend than a physical wall imo.
    A wall is a yuge piece of the pie
    Only small sections close to parts of the border you can actually cross, which walls already exist in. There are massive stretches of hostile land where it would be a waste and youd be better off using sensors to detect the few people suicidal enough to try and cross there.
    No there is quite a bit of area that still needs the kind of wall that is working where built. Its not wall or nothing or other things but no wall - its all of it including walls. Walls send a message that you aren't welcome and to get around them you have a good chance of dying before the electronic drones come blow you up
    I hear you and I think we agree to the finer point of how much wall should actually be built. Unfortunately the political messaging is either BUILD THE WALL or TEAR DOWN THE WALLS, both of which are fucking stupid.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,435 Founders Club

    “DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”

    How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.

    I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data though
    let me introduce you to ice cores
    I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.

    So how do they prove man made?
    My intent wasnt to start the 500,000th climate thread. My border take is that we should invest in a sensor wall for more remote parts of the border, staff up, and beef up security/detection capabilites at ports of entry. I’m not agaisnt spending for border security, but there are more effective ways to spend than a physical wall imo.
    A wall is a yuge piece of the pie
    Only small sections close to parts of the border you can actually cross, which walls already exist in. There are massive stretches of hostile land where it would be a waste and youd be better off using sensors to detect the few people suicidal enough to try and cross there.
    No there is quite a bit of area that still needs the kind of wall that is working where built. Its not wall or nothing or other things but no wall - its all of it including walls. Walls send a message that you aren't welcome and to get around them you have a good chance of dying before the electronic drones come blow you up
    I hear you and I think we agree to the finer point of how much wall should actually be built. Unfortunately the political messaging is either BUILD THE WALL or TEAR DOWN THE WALLS, both of which are fucking stupid.
    We're all burdened by the insane among us. I've not really a Republican and don't think Trump is either but I'm hearing that I'm just like Steve King!!!!11
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,096 Standard Supporter
    What's to say the numbers don't go up? At some point they probably will. Obama was more strict on the border than Bush and very few liberals complained about it. Now that Trump wants a wall, many throw fits. Walls deter. I took a walk for perspective the other night and noticed the nearby Costco had both a chain link fence and barbed wire on it. The Arizona Daily Star or Arizona Republican don't write stories about private property walls, but do it for 1000 feet in Nogales and out comes the divisive click bait tripe stories.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    No one had a an issue with walls before Trump

    That is inarguable

    Well, the idiots like Beto who want to tear down walls may have but let's stick to rational people

    Lil lyin Race.