Confirmed - its an emergency
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RaceBannon said:
CNN and NY Times have the same numbers but still I'm sure its white people fault you fucking moronUWhuskytskeet said:
https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Mar/bp-southwest-border-sector-apps-fy1960-fy2018.pdfWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
It's mostly bullshit. All they've done is taken the 70k February number and prorated for the entire year.
2018's apprehensions are 35% of what we saw in 2007. Same goes for the rest of the decade.
It's Fox scaring old white guys.
Classic ID politics by Skeets. False equivalency, gaslight and then blame it on whitey. -
Christ you are testy on this echo chamber of a board.RaceBannon said:
CNN and NY Times have the same numbers but still I'm sure its white people fault you fucking moronUWhuskytskeet said:
https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Mar/bp-southwest-border-sector-apps-fy1960-fy2018.pdfWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
It's mostly bullshit. All they've done is taken the 70k February number and prorated for the entire year.
2018's apprehensions are 35% of what we saw in 2007. Same goes for the rest of the decade.
It's Fox scaring old white guys.
Does this look like a fucking national emergency?
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Or you could look at the data and realize apprehensions rise and fall throughout the year every year. It's fear mongering. Congrats, you fall for it.salemcoog said:
Oh. So we need to let the year play out and make sure that we are still hitting those numbers to make sure it’s an emergency. Got it. You are on useless idiot aren’t ya skeets.UWhuskytskeet said:
https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Mar/bp-southwest-border-sector-apps-fy1960-fy2018.pdfWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
It's mostly bullshit. All they've done is taken the 70k February number and prorated for the entire year.
2018's apprehensions are 35% of what we saw in 2007. Same goes for the rest of the decade.
It's Fox scaring old white guys. -
The numbers have more than doubled last month. And 60% aren’t from Mexico. You and your ilk told us the Caravans were Bullshit.UWhuskytskeet said:
Christ you are testy on this echo chamber of a board.RaceBannon said:
CNN and NY Times have the same numbers but still I'm sure its white people fault you fucking moronUWhuskytskeet said:
https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Mar/bp-southwest-border-sector-apps-fy1960-fy2018.pdfWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
It's mostly bullshit. All they've done is taken the 70k February number and prorated for the entire year.
2018's apprehensions are 35% of what we saw in 2007. Same goes for the rest of the decade.
It's Fox scaring old white guys.
Does this look like a fucking national emergency?
And even with half of those numbers, the last President was allowed to DO SOMETHING to secure our border. I didn’t hear you bitching about walls and kids in cages back then. I wonder why. I’m guessing it’s because you are easily played by the media. -
dflea said:
salemcoogerFSHillsboroDuck said:
I think Wilbur is better than thatsalemcoog said:
No. No you don’t. You just want to twist some numbers to keep make believing that our border is secure and we have enough beds for fake refugees and unaccompanied children. And illegals are a net gain to our economy. When none of it is true.WilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
Closet fag with all of his guns at the bottom of the river weighs in!!!! Relax and have a smoke. -
Why are you guys such sensitive little pussies on this board?salemcoog said:
The numbers have more than doubled last month. And 60% aren’t from Mexico. You and your ilk told us the Caravans were Bullshit.UWhuskytskeet said:
Christ you are testy on this echo chamber of a board.RaceBannon said:
CNN and NY Times have the same numbers but still I'm sure its white people fault you fucking moronUWhuskytskeet said:
https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Mar/bp-southwest-border-sector-apps-fy1960-fy2018.pdfWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
It's mostly bullshit. All they've done is taken the 70k February number and prorated for the entire year.
2018's apprehensions are 35% of what we saw in 2007. Same goes for the rest of the decade.
It's Fox scaring old white guys.
Does this look like a fucking national emergency?
And even with half of those numbers, the last President was allowed to DO SOMETHING to secure our border. I didn’t hear you bitching about walls and kids in cages back then. I wonder why. I’m guessing it’s because you are easily played by the media. -
Ur a LiAR!! Am I doing it right?salemcoog said:
The numbers have more than doubled last month. And 60% aren’t from Mexico. You and your ilk told us the Caravans were Bullshit.UWhuskytskeet said:
Christ you are testy on this echo chamber of a board.RaceBannon said:
CNN and NY Times have the same numbers but still I'm sure its white people fault you fucking moronUWhuskytskeet said:
https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Mar/bp-southwest-border-sector-apps-fy1960-fy2018.pdfWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
It's mostly bullshit. All they've done is taken the 70k February number and prorated for the entire year.
2018's apprehensions are 35% of what we saw in 2007. Same goes for the rest of the decade.
It's Fox scaring old white guys.
Does this look like a fucking national emergency?
And even with half of those numbers, the last President was allowed to DO SOMETHING to secure our border. I didn’t hear you bitching about walls and kids in cages back then. I wonder why. I’m guessing it’s because you are easily played by the media.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
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That’s what ya got eh?UWhuskytskeet said:
Why are you guys such sensitive little pussies on this board?salemcoog said:
The numbers have more than doubled last month. And 60% aren’t from Mexico. You and your ilk told us the Caravans were Bullshit.UWhuskytskeet said:
Christ you are testy on this echo chamber of a board.RaceBannon said:
CNN and NY Times have the same numbers but still I'm sure its white people fault you fucking moronUWhuskytskeet said:
https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Mar/bp-southwest-border-sector-apps-fy1960-fy2018.pdfWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
It's mostly bullshit. All they've done is taken the 70k February number and prorated for the entire year.
2018's apprehensions are 35% of what we saw in 2007. Same goes for the rest of the decade.
It's Fox scaring old white guys.
Does this look like a fucking national emergency?
And even with half of those numbers, the last President was allowed to DO SOMETHING to secure our border. I didn’t hear you bitching about walls and kids in cages back then. I wonder why. I’m guessing it’s because you are easily played by the media.
Back to Reddit skeets. -
I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.WilburHooksHands said:
let me introduce you to ice coresRaceBannon said:
I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data thoughWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
So how do they prove man made? -
Why do you suck at arguments?UWhuskytskeet said:
Why are you guys such sensitive little pussies on this board?salemcoog said:
The numbers have more than doubled last month. And 60% aren’t from Mexico. You and your ilk told us the Caravans were Bullshit.UWhuskytskeet said:
Christ you are testy on this echo chamber of a board.RaceBannon said:
CNN and NY Times have the same numbers but still I'm sure its white people fault you fucking moronUWhuskytskeet said:
https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Mar/bp-southwest-border-sector-apps-fy1960-fy2018.pdfWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
It's mostly bullshit. All they've done is taken the 70k February number and prorated for the entire year.
2018's apprehensions are 35% of what we saw in 2007. Same goes for the rest of the decade.
It's Fox scaring old white guys.
Does this look like a fucking national emergency?
And even with half of those numbers, the last President was allowed to DO SOMETHING to secure our border. I didn’t hear you bitching about walls and kids in cages back then. I wonder why. I’m guessing it’s because you are easily played by the media. -
No, you!RaceBannon said:
Why do you suck at arguments?UWhuskytskeet said:
Why are you guys such sensitive little pussies on this board?salemcoog said:
The numbers have more than doubled last month. And 60% aren’t from Mexico. You and your ilk told us the Caravans were Bullshit.UWhuskytskeet said:
Christ you are testy on this echo chamber of a board.RaceBannon said:
CNN and NY Times have the same numbers but still I'm sure its white people fault you fucking moronUWhuskytskeet said:
https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Mar/bp-southwest-border-sector-apps-fy1960-fy2018.pdfWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
It's mostly bullshit. All they've done is taken the 70k February number and prorated for the entire year.
2018's apprehensions are 35% of what we saw in 2007. Same goes for the rest of the decade.
It's Fox scaring old white guys.
Does this look like a fucking national emergency?
And even with half of those numbers, the last President was allowed to DO SOMETHING to secure our border. I didn’t hear you bitching about walls and kids in cages back then. I wonder why. I’m guessing it’s because you are easily played by the media. -
That's what I thought
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You're the one crying like a little bitch, Sally.salemcoog said:dflea said:
salemcoogerFSHillsboroDuck said:
I think Wilbur is better than thatsalemcoog said:
No. No you don’t. You just want to twist some numbers to keep make believing that our border is secure and we have enough beds for fake refugees and unaccompanied children. And illegals are a net gain to our economy. When none of it is true.WilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
Closet fag with all of his guns at the bottom of the river weighs in!!!! Relax and have a smoke.
Fuck off. -
Fun to add the 5th WTF to that post.2001400ex said:
Let's say I have my fan club.PurpleThrobber said:
Gotta say though - 28.5K WTFs is impressive.TurdBuffer said:
Must you always be a whiny little cunt, Hondo? The evidence says "yes."2001400ex said:Sounds like the current protection of the border is doing a good job.
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Did you just make that up sitting in class?UWhuskytskeet said:
Christ you are testy on this echo chamber of a board.RaceBannon said:
CNN and NY Times have the same numbers but still I'm sure its white people fault you fucking moronUWhuskytskeet said:
https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Mar/bp-southwest-border-sector-apps-fy1960-fy2018.pdfWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
It's mostly bullshit. All they've done is taken the 70k February number and prorated for the entire year.
2018's apprehensions are 35% of what we saw in 2007. Same goes for the rest of the decade.
It's Fox scaring old white guys.
Does this look like a fucking national emergency? -
Because the dinosaurs were over hunted by man!RaceBannon said:
I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.WilburHooksHands said:
let me introduce you to ice coresRaceBannon said:
I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data thoughWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
So how do they prove man made? -
My intent wasnt to start the 500,000th climate thread. My border take is that we should invest in a sensor wall for more remote parts of the border, staff up, and beef up security/detection capabilites at ports of entry. I’m not agaisnt spending for border security, but there are more effective ways to spend than a physical wall imo.RaceBannon said:
I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.WilburHooksHands said:
let me introduce you to ice coresRaceBannon said:
I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data thoughWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
So how do they prove man made? -
A wall is a yuge piece of the pieWilburHooksHands said:
My intent wasnt to start the 500,000th climate thread. My border take is that we should invest in a sensor wall for more remote parts of the border, staff up, and beef up security/detection capabilites at ports of entry. I’m not agaisnt spending for border security, but there are more effective ways to spend than a physical wall imo.RaceBannon said:
I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.WilburHooksHands said:
let me introduce you to ice coresRaceBannon said:
I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data thoughWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
So how do they prove man made? -
Joke is on Race, he wants 6 billion years of data but the earth is only 6,000 years old.Sledog said:
Because the dinosaurs were over hunted by man!RaceBannon said:
I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.WilburHooksHands said:
let me introduce you to ice coresRaceBannon said:
I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data thoughWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
So how do they prove man made?
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Race is living proof that Earth is older than 6,000 years.WilburHooksHands said:
Joke is on Race, he wants 6 billion years of data but the earth is only 6,000 years old.Sledog said:
Because the dinosaurs were over hunted by man!RaceBannon said:
I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.WilburHooksHands said:
let me introduce you to ice coresRaceBannon said:
I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data thoughWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
So how do they prove man made? -
The new tactic is swarms or hundreds even more going all at once. It's a wall or minefields and machine guns. I'm all in for minefields and machine guns. We already have them. It's good training for the troops and ammo is cheap.WilburHooksHands said:
My intent wasnt to start the 500,000th climate thread. My border take is that we should invest in a sensor wall for more remote parts of the border, staff up, and beef up security/detection capabilites at ports of entry. I’m not agaisnt spending for border security, but there are more effective ways to spend than a physical wall imo.RaceBannon said:
I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.WilburHooksHands said:
let me introduce you to ice coresRaceBannon said:
I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data thoughWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
So how do they prove man made? -
Only small sections close to parts of the border you can actually cross, which walls already exist in. There are massive stretches of hostile land where it would be a waste and youd be better off using sensors to detect the few people suicidal enough to try and cross there.RaceBannon said:
A wall is a yuge piece of the pieWilburHooksHands said:
My intent wasnt to start the 500,000th climate thread. My border take is that we should invest in a sensor wall for more remote parts of the border, staff up, and beef up security/detection capabilites at ports of entry. I’m not agaisnt spending for border security, but there are more effective ways to spend than a physical wall imo.RaceBannon said:
I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.WilburHooksHands said:
let me introduce you to ice coresRaceBannon said:
I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data thoughWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
So how do they prove man made?
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Imagine caring about this.Sledog said:
Fun to add the 5th WTF to that post.2001400ex said:
Let's say I have my fan club.PurpleThrobber said:
Gotta say though - 28.5K WTFs is impressive.TurdBuffer said:
Must you always be a whiny little cunt, Hondo? The evidence says "yes."2001400ex said:Sounds like the current protection of the border is doing a good job.
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No there is quite a bit of area that still needs the kind of wall that is working where built. Its not wall or nothing or other things but no wall - its all of it including walls. Walls send a message that you aren't welcome and to get around them you have a good chance of dying before the electronic drones come blow you upWilburHooksHands said:
Only small sections close to parts of the border you can actually cross, which walls already exist in. There are massive stretches of hostile land where it would be a waste and youd be better off using sensors to detect the few people suicidal enough to try and cross there.RaceBannon said:
A wall is a yuge piece of the pieWilburHooksHands said:
My intent wasnt to start the 500,000th climate thread. My border take is that we should invest in a sensor wall for more remote parts of the border, staff up, and beef up security/detection capabilites at ports of entry. I’m not agaisnt spending for border security, but there are more effective ways to spend than a physical wall imo.RaceBannon said:
I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.WilburHooksHands said:
let me introduce you to ice coresRaceBannon said:
I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data thoughWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
So how do they prove man made? -
No one had a an issue with walls before Trump
That is inarguable
Well, the idiots like Beto who want to tear down walls may have but let's stick to rational people -
Im fine building walls at ports of entry, we already do.Sledog said:
The new tactic is swarms or hundreds even more going all at once. It's a wall or minefields and machine guns. I'm all in for minefields and machine guns. We already have them. It's good training for the troops and ammo is cheap.WilburHooksHands said:
My intent wasnt to start the 500,000th climate thread. My border take is that we should invest in a sensor wall for more remote parts of the border, staff up, and beef up security/detection capabilites at ports of entry. I’m not agaisnt spending for border security, but there are more effective ways to spend than a physical wall imo.RaceBannon said:
I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.WilburHooksHands said:
let me introduce you to ice coresRaceBannon said:
I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data thoughWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
So how do they prove man made?
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I hear you and I think we agree to the finer point of how much wall should actually be built. Unfortunately the political messaging is either BUILD THE WALL or TEAR DOWN THE WALLS, both of which are fucking stupid.RaceBannon said:
No there is quite a bit of area that still needs the kind of wall that is working where built. Its not wall or nothing or other things but no wall - its all of it including walls. Walls send a message that you aren't welcome and to get around them you have a good chance of dying before the electronic drones come blow you upWilburHooksHands said:
Only small sections close to parts of the border you can actually cross, which walls already exist in. There are massive stretches of hostile land where it would be a waste and youd be better off using sensors to detect the few people suicidal enough to try and cross there.RaceBannon said:
A wall is a yuge piece of the pieWilburHooksHands said:
My intent wasnt to start the 500,000th climate thread. My border take is that we should invest in a sensor wall for more remote parts of the border, staff up, and beef up security/detection capabilites at ports of entry. I’m not agaisnt spending for border security, but there are more effective ways to spend than a physical wall imo.RaceBannon said:
I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.WilburHooksHands said:
let me introduce you to ice coresRaceBannon said:
I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data thoughWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
So how do they prove man made?
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We're all burdened by the insane among us. I've not really a Republican and don't think Trump is either but I'm hearing that I'm just like Steve King!!!!11WilburHooksHands said:
I hear you and I think we agree to the finer point of how much wall should actually be built. Unfortunately the political messaging is either BUILD THE WALL or TEAR DOWN THE WALLS, both of which are fucking stupid.RaceBannon said:
No there is quite a bit of area that still needs the kind of wall that is working where built. Its not wall or nothing or other things but no wall - its all of it including walls. Walls send a message that you aren't welcome and to get around them you have a good chance of dying before the electronic drones come blow you upWilburHooksHands said:
Only small sections close to parts of the border you can actually cross, which walls already exist in. There are massive stretches of hostile land where it would be a waste and youd be better off using sensors to detect the few people suicidal enough to try and cross there.RaceBannon said:
A wall is a yuge piece of the pieWilburHooksHands said:
My intent wasnt to start the 500,000th climate thread. My border take is that we should invest in a sensor wall for more remote parts of the border, staff up, and beef up security/detection capabilites at ports of entry. I’m not agaisnt spending for border security, but there are more effective ways to spend than a physical wall imo.RaceBannon said:
I'm well aware. They can go back quite a ways and show us volcanic activity and climate indicators as can tree rings. They show an ever changing climate with or without man.WilburHooksHands said:
let me introduce you to ice coresRaceBannon said:
I would like to see the last 6 billion years of climate data thoughWilburHooksHands said:“DHS reports that the Border Patrol is apprehending illegal immigrants at the highest rate since 2007”
How far do these numbers go back and where can I see them? This rules out the current rate as unprecedented, but I want to see the entire data set.
So how do they prove man made?
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What's to say the numbers don't go up? At some point they probably will. Obama was more strict on the border than Bush and very few liberals complained about it. Now that Trump wants a wall, many throw fits. Walls deter. I took a walk for perspective the other night and noticed the nearby Costco had both a chain link fence and barbed wire on it. The Arizona Daily Star or Arizona Republican don't write stories about private property walls, but do it for 1000 feet in Nogales and out comes the divisive click bait tripe stories.
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Lil lyin Race.RaceBannon said:No one had a an issue with walls before Trump
That is inarguable
Well, the idiots like Beto who want to tear down walls may have but let's stick to rational people
