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  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    North Korea is a nuclear weapons state with missiles that can reach the United States. Why not just admit years long US policy failure and work on threat reduction. “Denuclearization” is a fantasy. Walking away accomplishes nothing except making future negotiations even less likely. President Deals.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215
    Walking away accomplishes nothing except making future negotiations even less likely. President Deals.

    Kunt logic, is there anything it can't do?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215

    The lasting effect of these summits will be that a president legitimized North Korea's slave empire by meeting with one of its leaders as an equal

    Thank you, President T!

    Their nuclear weapons have already established them as legitimate where we like it or not.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215
    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,823 Standard Supporter

    North Korea is a nuclear weapons state with missiles that can reach the United States. Why not just admit years long US policy failure and work on threat reduction. “Denuclearization” is a fantasy. Walking away accomplishes nothing except making future negotiations even less likely. President Deals.

    You mean years long US policy that gave them a nuke reactors and 1-3 billion in aid under Clinton? Yeah that was special.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215
    This is the kind of negotiation HardlyClothed loved:


  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    Sledog said:

    North Korea is a nuclear weapons state with missiles that can reach the United States. Why not just admit years long US policy failure and work on threat reduction. “Denuclearization” is a fantasy. Walking away accomplishes nothing except making future negotiations even less likely. President Deals.

    You mean years long US policy that gave them a nuke reactors and 1-3 billion in aid under Clinton? Yeah that was special.
    It’s not like Clinton NK policy was great but the Agreed Framework that got blown up by the neocons in the Dubya administration was alright.

    The general policy of sanctions, isolation, and waiting which spans from the ‘80s until now was a failure. Just admit it and work on reducing the likelihood of a nuclear exchange. Seems like that’s difficult for the egos in Washington.
  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    SFGbob said:

    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.

    I'm fine with him or any president trying. But it's been so half-assed and amateurish. Even you have to admit this.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    This is the kind of negotiation HardlyClothed loved:


    Uh, yeah, meeting with them is fine. If we had made a reasonable deal in the 90’s we wouldn’t have a nuclear armed NK now.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    North Korea is a nuclear weapons state with missiles that can reach the United States. Why not just admit years long US policy failure and work on threat reduction. “Denuclearization” is a fantasy. Walking away accomplishes nothing except making future negotiations even less likely. President Deals.

    You mean years long US policy that gave them a nuke reactors and 1-3 billion in aid under Clinton? Yeah that was special.
    It’s not like Clinton NK policy was great but the Agreed Framework that got blown up by the neocons in the Dubya administration was alright.

    The general policy of sanctions, isolation, and waiting which spans from the ‘80s until now was a failure. Just admit it and work on reducing the likelihood of a nuclear exchange. Seems like that’s difficult for the egos in Washington.
    I agree with this. FYFMFE.