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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    RaceBannon said:

    I am re watching the Civil War and people forget how much Lincoln was hated during his time. Of course Burns stayed away from the disgusting campaign the democrats ran in 1864 but those of who were there were appalled

    Churchill also was generally unpopular and voted out after he won the war for England.

    Great leaders are often savagely attacked during their time and remembered fondly after they are long gone.

    He also looked like the Penguin. Likability at the time tends to be based largely on how someone looks.
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  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    PurpleJ said:

    MariotaTheGawd said:

    I'm convinced no one liked the sound of his own voice more than Churchill

    Obama.
    He was actually a good speaker, though
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  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    greenblood said:

    MariotaTheGawd said:

    PurpleJ said:

    MariotaTheGawd said:

    I'm convinced no one liked the sound of his own voice more than Churchill

    Obama.
    He was actually a good speaker, though
    Are you saying he's articulate?


    I'm saying churchill is overrated. Where in oregon do you live? This sort of reasoning smells like clackamas county
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,623 Founders Club
    greenblood said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I am re watching the Civil War and people forget how much Lincoln was hated during his time. Of course Burns stayed away from the disgusting campaign the democrats ran in 1864 but those of who were there were appalled

    Churchill also was generally unpopular and voted out after he won the war for England.

    Great leaders are often savagely attacked during their time and remembered fondly after they are long gone.

    He also looked like the Penguin. Likability at the time tends to be based largely on how someone looks.
    Since TV no bald person has been elected President

    Nixon won the debate to radio listeners, Kennedy to TV viewers

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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    greenblood said:

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    2001400ex said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    What Bush policies were you particularly fond of that Trump has abandoned? Amnesty? Open borders? Forever wars? Don't hurt yourself.

    It's about open borders. Millennials believe in a one world society without borders or boundaries. Are you that out of touch?
    You don't get out much. The Millenials I know are definitely not democrat. There is a wholly different world out there for those that seek different opinions than their own. Go meet someone other than a like minded liberal and broaden your scope..
    Hillary won millennials 55% to 37%. And we hated Hillary. FOH.
    Yeah anyone claiming millennials don't lean left is just using anecdotal evidence and ignoring the objective data here.

    Younger people are more liberal than older people. This isn't news.
    This is why I've never understood the democrats' stance on pro-choice. With the younger generation having fewer and fewer children, Democrats won't have the young vote impact they've enjoyed for the last couple decades.
    You are a true shill if you think Democrats should be pro life based on younger votes. There's more to policies than votes. Idiot.
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