83% of dems in SC, CA, IA, NV, NH more likely to support pres cand that’s for the Green New Deal
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It's almost like when you have money you can hire professionals so some laws don't have to pertain to you. Strange isn't it?MariotaTheGawd said:
Why even have taxes if some people aren't going to pay them? Why even have laws?greenblood said:Aren't like 75% of Dems for that retarded legislation anyway?
The legislation on the surface looks great, especially for those that want clean energy. The problem is once the actual costs get out, how many middle class people are willing to pay additional taxes and higher energy costs? Don't tell me only the rich will pay, because the rich will find a way not to pay, that's why they are rich. This shit will have to get passed to the middle class, and there is no way in hell that they'll go for it.
People vote on morals, likability, social concerns, but the most heavily valued driver of votes has and always will be money. Sure, the bluest of blue states will go for it even after these numbers are advertised. However, this will never get approval from swings states, and at least for another 10-15 years there are still enough swing states to matter. -
That's not really answering the question, but I'm guessing you know thatgreenblood said:
It's almost like when you have money you can hire professionals so some laws don't have to pertain to you. Strange isn't it?MariotaTheGawd said:
Why even have taxes if some people aren't going to pay them? Why even have laws?greenblood said:Aren't like 75% of Dems for that retarded legislation anyway?
The legislation on the surface looks great, especially for those that want clean energy. The problem is once the actual costs get out, how many middle class people are willing to pay additional taxes and higher energy costs? Don't tell me only the rich will pay, because the rich will find a way not to pay, that's why they are rich. This shit will have to get passed to the middle class, and there is no way in hell that they'll go for it.
People vote on morals, likability, social concerns, but the most heavily valued driver of votes has and always will be money. Sure, the bluest of blue states will go for it even after these numbers are advertised. However, this will never get approval from swings states, and at least for another 10-15 years there are still enough swing states to matter. -
I'm hearing taxes are only collected at the threat of violence.MariotaTheGawd said:
Why even have taxes if some people aren't going to pay them? Why even have laws?greenblood said:Aren't like 75% of Dems for that retarded legislation anyway?
The legislation on the surface looks great, especially for those that want clean energy. The problem is once the actual costs get out, how many middle class people are willing to pay additional taxes and higher energy costs? Don't tell me only the rich will pay, because the rich will find a way not to pay, that's why they are rich. This shit will have to get passed to the middle class, and there is no way in hell that they'll go for it.
People vote on morals, likability, social concerns, but the most heavily valued driver of votes has and always will be money. Sure, the bluest of blue states will go for it even after these numbers are advertised. However, this will never get approval from swings states, and at least for another 10-15 years there are still enough swing states to matter. -
You should have answered mine first, but whatever.MariotaTheGawd said:
That's not really answering the question, but I'm guessing you know thatgreenblood said:
It's almost like when you have money you can hire professionals so some laws don't have to pertain to you. Strange isn't it?MariotaTheGawd said:
Why even have taxes if some people aren't going to pay them? Why even have laws?greenblood said:Aren't like 75% of Dems for that retarded legislation anyway?
The legislation on the surface looks great, especially for those that want clean energy. The problem is once the actual costs get out, how many middle class people are willing to pay additional taxes and higher energy costs? Don't tell me only the rich will pay, because the rich will find a way not to pay, that's why they are rich. This shit will have to get passed to the middle class, and there is no way in hell that they'll go for it.
People vote on morals, likability, social concerns, but the most heavily valued driver of votes has and always will be money. Sure, the bluest of blue states will go for it even after these numbers are advertised. However, this will never get approval from swings states, and at least for another 10-15 years there are still enough swing states to matter.
Middle class people in general are not going to want clean energy in exchange for a higher tax and energy cost burden. It has high approval now, because most don't think they'll pay for it. This is the main reason Bernie lost to Hillary in the primary. You can't be mainstream and support large tax increases. Bernie and AOC get a lot of press and viewership, but they only attract the loud minority of the party. Their policies like this sound great and hit at the moral heartstrings, but as more as more information comes out on it, people back off their pledge for it. -
Might as well not even vote on it is what I'm hearing. I look forward to it getting passed in congress very soon.
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That's exactly what would happenUW_Doog_Bot said:Might as well not even vote on it is what I'm hearing. I look forward to it getting passed in congress very soon.
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Wow imagine that. A majority of all people who say they support puppies and ice cream. Do you know how fucking stupid and worthless these kind of polls are? You ask people if they would support transitioning all of American energy needs to renewable and green friendly sources in the next 15 years and damn if you don't get a majority of people to say that they'd support it.allpurpleallgold said:http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf
Uh oh.
B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!
Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC.
Now ask them that exact same question and only ask them if they'd still support it if it meant that they'd be paying twice as much for their energy cost or that they'd have to have an electric car.
The fact that you think this polls are of any significance reveals you for the lightweight you are dude. -
Anyone on the left that doesn’t vote for it is going to get primaried by someone that does support it. You better hope it becomes unpopular.
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That whole redistribution of wealth and equal treatment under the law shit might be important.2001400ex said:
I'd like to see your case on how the GND isn't constitutional. Quoting the GND and the Constitution would be welcomed.Sledog said:
You haven't actually read the constitution. Maroon.allpurpleallgold said:
You haven’t actually read the document. Idiot.Sledog said:
Socialism doesn't fit with the constitution. HTHallpurpleallgold said:http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf
Uh oh.
B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!
Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC. -
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