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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,709
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    He wants to spend your money on all his free shit. Not his!

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    No one is stopping you from sending more money in
    I'm not willing to subsidize you rich folk more than I already do.

    And can someone tell me what "free shit" I get that Sled doesn't get?
    You don't have to send it to the state so no rich people need be involved. I know charity is a hard concept for a statist to grasp.

    From each according to their ability. To each according to their need comrade.

    Should probably forgo your next family vacation and instead donate to a noble cause. One of my personal favorites is Teachers Without Borders.

    Start practicing or GTFO with trying to force others to first.
    We give money to charity. I said that already. We did it completely unaware that it makes us socialists. I am glad to learn that I’m now entitled to advocate for raising taxes though.
    Do you flip burgers for Hondo?
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,126
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    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    He wants to spend your money on all his free shit. Not his!

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    No one is stopping you from sending more money in
    I'm not willing to subsidize you rich folk more than I already do.

    And can someone tell me what "free shit" I get that Sled doesn't get?
    You don't have to send it to the state so no rich people need be involved. I know charity is a hard concept for a statist to grasp.

    From each according to their ability. To each according to their need comrade.

    Should probably forgo your next family vacation and instead donate to a noble cause. One of my personal favorites is Teachers Without Borders.

    Start practicing or GTFO with trying to force others to first.
    We give money to charity. I said that already. We did it completely unaware that it makes us socialists. I am glad to learn that I’m now entitled to advocate for raising taxes though.
    Do you flip burgers for Hondo?
    Do you need someone to loan you a white flag?
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    UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,206
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    He wants to spend your money on all his free shit. Not his!

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    No one is stopping you from sending more money in
    I'm not willing to subsidize you rich folk more than I already do.

    And can someone tell me what "free shit" I get that Sled doesn't get?
    You don't have to send it to the state so no rich people need be involved. I know charity is a hard concept for a statist to grasp.

    From each according to their ability. To each according to their need comrade.

    Should probably forgo your next family vacation and instead donate to a noble cause. One of my personal favorites is Teachers Without Borders.

    Start practicing or GTFO with trying to force others to first.
    We give money to charity. I said that already. We did it completely unaware that it makes us socialists. I am glad to learn that I’m now entitled to advocate for raising taxes though.
    What % of your income goes to charity? Sure sounds like you have more than you need. How can you morally defend hoarding resources when there are people starving in the streets?
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,709
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    He wants to spend your money on all his free shit. Not his!

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    No one is stopping you from sending more money in
    I'm not willing to subsidize you rich folk more than I already do.

    And can someone tell me what "free shit" I get that Sled doesn't get?
    You don't have to send it to the state so no rich people need be involved. I know charity is a hard concept for a statist to grasp.

    From each according to their ability. To each according to their need comrade.

    Should probably forgo your next family vacation and instead donate to a noble cause. One of my personal favorites is Teachers Without Borders.

    Start practicing or GTFO with trying to force others to first.
    We give money to charity. I said that already. We did it completely unaware that it makes us socialists. I am glad to learn that I’m now entitled to advocate for raising taxes though.
    What % of your income goes to charity? Sure sounds like you have more than you need. How can you morally defend hoarding resources when there are people starving in the streets?
    I donate to several charities. The checks are for a grand apiece. And you?
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,333
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    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    He wants to spend your money on all his free shit. Not his!

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    No one is stopping you from sending more money in
    I'm not willing to subsidize you rich folk more than I already do.

    And can someone tell me what "free shit" I get that Sled doesn't get?
    You don't have to send it to the state so no rich people need be involved. I know charity is a hard concept for a statist to grasp.

    From each according to their ability. To each according to their need comrade.

    Should probably forgo your next family vacation and instead donate to a noble cause. One of my personal favorites is Teachers Without Borders.

    Start practicing or GTFO with trying to force others to first.
    We give money to charity. I said that already. We did it completely unaware that it makes us socialists. I am glad to learn that I’m now entitled to advocate for raising taxes though.
    What % of your income goes to charity? Sure sounds like you have more than you need. How can you morally defend hoarding resources when there are people starving in the streets?
    I donate to several charities. The checks are for a grand apiece. And you?
    NAMBLA and the NRA don't count.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,741
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    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    He wants to spend your money on all his free shit. Not his!

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    No one is stopping you from sending more money in
    I'm not willing to subsidize you rich folk more than I already do.

    And can someone tell me what "free shit" I get that Sled doesn't get?
    You don't have to send it to the state so no rich people need be involved. I know charity is a hard concept for a statist to grasp.

    From each according to their ability. To each according to their need comrade.

    Should probably forgo your next family vacation and instead donate to a noble cause. One of my personal favorites is Teachers Without Borders.

    Start practicing or GTFO with trying to force others to first.
    We give money to charity. I said that already. We did it completely unaware that it makes us socialists. I am glad to learn that I’m now entitled to advocate for raising taxes though.
    What % of your income goes to charity? Sure sounds like you have more than you need. How can you morally defend hoarding resources when there are people starving in the streets?
    I donate to several charities. The checks are for a grand apiece. And you?
    Big spender. Nice job.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,126
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    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    He wants to spend your money on all his free shit. Not his!

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bill Gates understands that ultra wealthy people have provided a healthy market to income avoidance and deferral planners. He favors a robust estate tax, which is one good way of getting at the real issue.

    Yeah steal money from people when they die that they have already been taxed on.

    Why can't you lefty fucks earn your own money? Oh yeah an IQ like liquid nitrogen.
    I love the “taxation is stealing” and “double taxation” lies. Smells like idiocy!




    I'm taxed on dollars earned and reported as taxable income (once), and I accumulate that income in an investment or bank account, paying taxes on dividends and interest earned (new income earned - and taxed a first time), when I die the government then taxes those dollars AGAIN.

    If that's not double taxation, what is it?


    You or your heirs pay.

    It's a word game. The man still winds up with the money.
    Yeeup. It is another revenue source and represents a policy against family dynasties. The Coors family railed against it.

    Gates doesn't care because at his level it doesn't really matter. He heirs, and theirs and theirs are going to be fine. Assuming they all did nothing but sit around, the math wouldn't catch up to them for 1,000 years. Bill, like most of us, doesn't care about his lineage that far down the road.

    For me, it's real money to my kids and theirs. I have to work around it.
    Gates is leaving his fortune to charity.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-children-are-proud-of-his-pledge-to-leave-his-money-to-charity-2016-10
    Not all of it.
    True. He’s also giving his kids a “leg up”.
    Quite a leg up. He has said in interviews on this subject that he wouldn't leave them enuff to do nothing, but enuff to do something.

    I'm guessing the 'do nothing' part is tuff talk, easy to say when it's far off. But I'd guess the truth is something in between, and his family will have more than enuff to do nothing, but won't control nearly as much wealth as he does.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the ultra-wealthy people are whose kids don’t get a “leg up” until they die. I’m not ultra wealthy or dead, yet my wife and I have given our kids a leg up in multiple, expensive ways. They are fortunate. We have been fortunate too. If we leave them $12 million dollars, I think they’ll manage to benefit even if $1 million of it is heavily taxed.
    Isn't it great that you have the freedom to do so? Feel free to send a few million my way if the guilt gets to be too much for you
    It is great. Are you just squeezing your $20 million fortune to your chest, waiting to give your kids a “leg up” when you’re dead, and resenting the tax on that last $9 million? You could give them something now, you know.
    You could be practicing voluntary socialism now, you know. Why aren't you?
    I do give some money away. And I'm willing to see my taxes raised. What tax rate is socialism again? I must have misplaced the memo.
    No one is stopping you from sending more money in
    I'm not willing to subsidize you rich folk more than I already do.

    And can someone tell me what "free shit" I get that Sled doesn't get?
    You don't have to send it to the state so no rich people need be involved. I know charity is a hard concept for a statist to grasp.

    From each according to their ability. To each according to their need comrade.

    Should probably forgo your next family vacation and instead donate to a noble cause. One of my personal favorites is Teachers Without Borders.

    Start practicing or GTFO with trying to force others to first.
    We give money to charity. I said that already. We did it completely unaware that it makes us socialists. I am glad to learn that I’m now entitled to advocate for raising taxes though.
    What % of your income goes to charity? Sure sounds like you have more than you need. How can you morally defend hoarding resources when there are people starving in the streets?
    I donate to several charities. The checks are for a grand apiece. And you?
    That’s okay. I’m sure you’re doing what you can.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,811
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    Unless you’re going Mormon motherfucking big 10%+ each and every week of your life, this charity weenie measuring contest is adorable. Pat pat.
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    Unless you’re going Mormon motherfucking big 10%+ each and every week of your life, this charity weenie measuring contest is adorable. Pat pat.

    Well, I think it’s your fellow travelers who wanted to talk about private charity. How about those of us who have benefited most from living here just paying more taxes so Sled finally get his free shit?
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,811
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    HHusky said:

    Unless you’re going Mormon motherfucking big 10%+ each and every week of your life, this charity weenie measuring contest is adorable. Pat pat.

    Well, I think it’s your fellow travelers who wanted to talk about private charity. How about those of us who have benefited most from living here just paying more taxes so Sled finally get his free shit?
    Pat pat, motherfucker.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,126
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    HHusky said:

    Unless you’re going Mormon motherfucking big 10%+ each and every week of your life, this charity weenie measuring contest is adorable. Pat pat.

    Well, I think it’s your fellow travelers who wanted to talk about private charity. How about those of us who have benefited most from living here just paying more taxes so Sled finally get his free shit?
    Pat pat, motherfucker.
    Well bless your heart. At least you’re trying.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,709
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    Unless you’re going Mormon motherfucking big 10%+ each and every week of your life, this charity weenie measuring contest is adorable. Pat pat.

    I was not counting church donations. HTH
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,126
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    Sledog said:

    Unless you’re going Mormon motherfucking big 10%+ each and every week of your life, this charity weenie measuring contest is adorable. Pat pat.

    I was not counting church donations. HTH
    He wants an extra millimeter or two, I guess.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,709
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    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Unless you’re going Mormon motherfucking big 10%+ each and every week of your life, this charity weenie measuring contest is adorable. Pat pat.

    I was not counting church donations. HTH
    He wants an extra millimeter or two, I guess.
    I don't want anything it's you who doesn't answer. Guessing you're packing a lil' Smokey......
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,811
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Unless you’re going Mormon motherfucking big 10%+ each and every week of your life, this charity weenie measuring contest is adorable. Pat pat.

    Well, I think it’s your fellow travelers who wanted to talk about private charity. How about those of us who have benefited most from living here just paying more taxes so Sled finally get his free shit?
    Pat pat, motherfucker.
    Well bless your heart. At least you’re trying.
    Pass the dutchie. Whatever you're on is skrong.

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    dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,220
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    I actually plan on liquidating and spending pretty much the entirety of my estate prior to my death.

    If my kids can't make it on their own after growing up in the first world and the help they've already received from us, then they can be cold and hungry people.

    If my dads are smart, they're thinking the same thing.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,811
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    Rent free

    So you're a squatter.

    We already knew that.



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